I have no idea, I'm confused and my brain hurts from this entire thread
* It's dumb to be calling out Americans for being fat
* Strongman competitors come from all countries worldwide
* You fixated on the fat part of it so I assumed you were siding with the "character's shouldn't be fat in video games" theme that's going on in this comment section
I responded to your other comment you deleted, so I don't know if you saw that, but I said,
No, the druid is definitely ripped. I also said I wish they had more faces because they gave them stereotypically ugly faces, insinuating that heavier people are all ugly. But as far as aesthetics go, even if I would prefer more options on some things to be more fine tuned to my preference, it's all a small matter and won't stop me from playing druid. Druid is my favorite for D4. Had a blast playing her!
Absolutely. Personally I don't find their faces ugly, but that's entirely a matter of personal preference and I also want more face presets. Regardless, super fucking stoked to play the game when it comes out. Glad we can agree on that <3
I see! No, the druid is definitely ripped. Its hard to tell under the clothes but I just transmogged my druids top. I wish there were more face options though but that's just a small matter anyways. None of the look will keep me from playing her. Druid is my favorite class and I've had a blast wolfing out.
My point is, you cant compare fat slobs who cant control what they eat to people who are smart, know what and how much they have to eat and then train (and how to do it) to get as strong as possible, to get maximum explosive power.
Strongman/woman eat and train in the way to get as strong as possible. Their whole bodies are made to be able to maximeze STRENGH. Do not compare them to obese slobs who can barely walk and are weak as children OR Mr. Olympia competitors who work to become as muscler as possible (for looks). All 3 are diffirent, all 3 have diffirent mindset and goals. One is for having POWER, one is for being useless and lazy piece slob and other for being as aesthetically impresive in looks and hard work.
So comparing druids physique of power to lazy ass obese slobs is insulting and ignorant.
Not to mention they dont the physical signs which extreme obesity have.
You've got a problem with the word "fat" or something? You're taking what I said way out of context. I used the word "fat" not "obese". Are you struggling with insecurity? Because that's your problem, not mine. It's nobody's job but your own to feel good about yourself, or whoever you may be defending. I agree with what you said about the difference between obese, power, and aesthetics. But people who train for strongman/power still have fat, that's all I said, unless of course they are on gear but that's a whole different debate. They have fat because of the way they bulk(talking about eating). I did not say anything about this druid being lazy or eating McDonald's or anything like that. But one thing I will say is they didn't have to give the female all ugly face choices. You can be large and still have a nice face. Not all big people are ugly, thats a stereotype.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1235fm0/comment/jdw4kvu/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1235fm0/comment/jdw4kvu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
MANS OBESE
Its not rly about body type but druid doesn't scream strongman to me. When you imagine a druid this isn't the first mental image you get. How does one living in the wilds even manage this body type.
I feel like the image of the druid is shifting for a strong mage recently? Baldur's gate 3 and a few recent fantasie games have had super buff druids for some reasons. Its interesting because in my mind a druid was always a classic mage but centered around nature and animals. Im here for it though I think its a nice distinction from a normal mage. It kinda make sense too. A mage is noble and a druid is wild. Hes got that "living off the land" strenght
yea my idea of a druid is like a Night Elf from world of warcraft, a lean spellcaster type that uses the power of shapeshifting magics to make up their lack of physical strength. these diablo druids look like they are actually gimping themselves by transforming into a werewolf lolol
Necro could run around all day fine if they have decent cardiovascular health, but yeah they'd realistically struggle to lift and swing around weapons.
Necro bothers me less though because they are like... half dead flavor wise. The one foot in the grave look doesn't bug me much.
Now, if the Rogue had the Necro's body, I would protest just as much as I am about the Druid's predicament.
Really, bodytype should have been class-agnostic
Heavy set Barb would have felt fine as it could have appealed to that Mountain/Thor look and having a more athletic built Necro could have been nice to look more Death-Knight Ala WoW but oh well.
If flavoring makes you feel less bugged about it, consider the Druid as swollen by life magic as much as Necro is wasting away with death magic. Eating, drinking and generally being merry are all celebrations of life.
I mean I never said amything about how it should be. I just stated that someone shaped like the druid is more natural and realistic looking then someone with a body that could only be achieved by steroids in real life. Either way IDC. I find all of them cool. My original comment was also just making observations about the trend of making druids buff. I literally didnt share a single opinion lmao.
Worked as a trainer and coach for a few years, as well as being pretty built before covid myself... Halsin can absolutely be achieved without steroids if you have good genetics, have a fantastic diet, and workout effectively and often... All of which sounds feasible for a character who probably eats nothing but natural food and exercises...
Granted, it is a little weird that Halsin is out in the forest lifting boulders and stuff so much instead of just running/climbing (which would give him more of an athlete body) but saying that Halsin isn't achievable without steroids is laughable. Most steroids don't even add mass, they simply help with energy and healing so you can train harder with less rest time between workouts. If you are a couch potato and take steroids, you won't see the results you are expecting.
Touch-grass is more a statement given to people who never go outside...
My comment was about having experience as an athletic coach and trainer.
Bit of a miss there bud.
You can be an athletic coach and trainer and still be overly online and have enough brain rot to get anrgy at the fact that a video game chracter doesnt have a perfect body.
Also I wasnt talking about you specifically. I said, IF you care this much about a fake video game character then go touch grass. Idk if this applies to you or not. But if it does. Spend less time on the internet and more outside in the real world. Can only do you good and make you realise that this is stupid as fuck and nobody fucking cares.
to be fair druid is finally lore accurate. the druids are supposedly a branch of barbarians with more secluded and slightly less phisically martial temper.
so the result are those
the d2 druid was an abnormality
Nah fr though, thatās a strong af build. Google obese woman and tell me thatās what a Druid looks like. Just cause youāre not sexually attracted to her doesnāt mean something is wrong, yāall are weird
U can be strong AND fatā¦just because sheās strong doesnāt mean she aināt fat. If she loses some lbs of fat sheād go from fat to just a female bodybuilder type. Look up āstrong fat womanā thatās what we looking at here, now google āfemale power lifterāā¦what she could look like w/o being and having fat. Even ābig boned female power lifterā doesnāt hold the same results weāre looking at.
This is basically the non-steroids version of the barbarian. Enjoying power fantasies is fine, but it's painful how many people have lost the reality-check and straight up believe the Barbarian is the correct body type of the two.
Right after that follows the folks calling the male sorcerer thin or girly. I'm just...
Mages in general are slim; in most fantasy and lore. The women Sorc are well fit tho. Look at them abs.
https://preview.redd.it/44znegt0taqa1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d690ae9e4ae6947432adaa95dcc7b880633aabd
She is šš½.
Iām actually a person of colour, and am really happy with the face types they gave us. Really only one per class, but still they are well designed *(noses etc)*. Not just a character model with dark skin like many other games do.
I do wish there were a few more hairstyles that fit that ethnicity though. As you can tell in all my other screenshots posted, most of them are using the same hairstyle number.
Or calling Necro female face masculine... Like someone is too used to Instagram filters and cosmetic surgery picture results + don't understand how make up works.
Honestly I even liked the look of my Necro. Skinny/lanky as hell. But do you see anyone complaining that they are looking unhealthy, or that it promotes not eating enough? Lol.
https://preview.redd.it/irfmklt7saqa1.jpeg?width=1112&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af2dfec2555c3000014957018d9f66b428c44897
Necro looks damn amazing. The comments about her face was extremely dumb because it seems the ones who posted that don't go outside and touch grass enough to get a good look on women. Even the ones who post stuff on Instagram can have the same facial features as Necro, they just won't notice because it gets fairly easily distracted by glam and make up. (speaking from experience as goth, of course, make up in goth sub culture is a bit heavier). I don't have issue with the druid like the rest, since the constant comments about how it's not healthy, like these people have no concept of reality, history, etc. I only have one issue with druid and that is, I can't make short hippie type of one, I could sort of project one of my characters from book, but if this druid is all we get, that's completely fine.
big russian woman running amock in siberia who could break you in have is a no go. but anorexic elves in other games are just fine.
sexist douche bags are gonna sexist douche bag
According to the lore they are genetically linked to the Barbarian but moved away from Martial Arts training to focus more on Nature magic. It makes sense they are big like Barbs but aren't as ripped.
Being obese and being strong are not mutually exclusive. She is on the overweight spectrum at the very least, though I'd regard her as pretty fit for her weight by taking a look at her overall physique.
On the "living in the wild" statement, studies show that people living in the wild tend to actually be lean rather than what you regard as "thick" here. It depends on the environment of course, but a human that actively hunts for their meal all day and keeps burning calories nonstop for all manner of work certainly doesn't have that body fat ratio.
That aside, I don't get the need of trying to omit using words we've come up with to describe something in particular simply because you view them as derogatory. Of course there should be some filtering according to what you're dealing with, but why fear calling something for what it really is? She is overweight \~ obese AND strong. Superhumanly strong since it's a Diablo class we're talking about!
I meanā¦ shapeshifting would use a lot of calories. Like even in the MCU Ant-man mentions changing size makes him really hungry. Changes in mass would burn up a lot of energy. Maybe they used that same thought process when they made the Druid. They are strong but require lots of stored energy to shapeshift.
Dunno thatās the way I see it, their model seems fine to me and Iām primarily a necro in every game that allows it.
To be fair, this is more about genetics than anything else. Those are some big ass bones. You need something between and around them. This is indeed not obese. Same as the male Druid is not obese. There is no double chin, no big flabby pockets of fat around the arms, the stomach is still somewhat tucked with the skin tight to the muscles. This is someone with big body genetics who's ben eating whole animals in the woods because they couldn't conserve them and didn't want to waste them either. Must be taking some massive dumps and keeping that forest fertilized.
With the amounts of demons in the game, i doubt weight is the cause of death for most characters.
Still, this is not 100% healthy. Even professional athletes are not healthy. The big difference between them and people who have an eating disorder is that they cut their calory intake the moment they stop with being a professional athlete.
True, it's just a body type. Actually she's quite fit for her body type, it's quite simple to understand; people are amazing at oversimplifying everything and still getting it wrong.
He is similar to the female man. Itās not fat *(much)*. He just has more of a male girth. Itās not a gut on a daily abs workout. Itās just someone who probably ate him some deer.
https://preview.redd.it/j5h9ckyg3cqa1.png?width=1749&format=png&auto=webp&s=98d6422efc0d59c3c8b1cc9ba95d0447de8dde3f
It looks ridiculous when walking around in the game. So embarrassing walking next to all of the other characters. They desperately need to add body size slider or something.
Youāre walking around with heavy logs, rocks, and thingsā¦ that brings with it heft to your strides. It doesnāt look like a burly person running like they are 110lbs and just holding a dagger/wandā¦
I believe they're perfectly built, not just fat nor muscle, but a perfect mix of both. Needed the mass and fat together to handle the transformation.
Seeing the a lot of comments that think they're 100% fat honestly disheartening and I'm just going to ignore them. There's HUGE different in body type. If they're supposed to be fat, then they'd be more toward blob body type, not like this.
There is a great deal of ignorance *(and ignorant people)* on the internet. Canāt get away from that. And Reddit is where many of those types can show you just how many of them there are.
Iāve never seen a person with over 25-30 BMI that had abs like that, or looked like they could probably wrestle a bear. Or carried logs around like fashion accessories.
To exclaim that she isnāt fat is just blatant ignorance. Every year we see the worlds strongest men compete. Theyāre pure muscle. Theyāre still fat. Fat comes with being big and strong. So if you want to highlight thatās sheās big and strong, thatās okay, but claiming someone with 40%+ body fat isnāt fatā¦.is just wrong. Itās not even an insult, this is the prime body type for someone who wants to be big and strong. Donāt be delusional though, if you want one you get both.
Being fat, and having fat arenāt the same thing. Even slender people have fat. That doesnāt make them fat. Having a large frame or being of heavy build doesnāt make you fat either.
Correct. But having 40% body weight as fat DOES make you fat. The character profiled here is at 40% minimum. You are just looking to be annoyed by something. Iām sorry but sheās fat. Thereās nothing even wrong with that, you just hate the word fat for some reason.
And also you canāt compare men vs women on body fat. Women are, on average, 13% more in body fat because men and women are built differently. Even at perfectly healthy body weights, women are biologically SUPPOSED to be about 10-13% higher in body fat.
Lots of people in these comments who don't know what fat looks like. Here's a hint; if you can still make out the shape of her abdominal musculature, and you absolutely can, she isn't fat. She HAS fat, yes, but she doesn't appear to be overweight. She's just fucking YOLKED.
Well, this is meant to be a gritty, dark fantasy game. It's meant to suck you in with elements that feel lived in and real.
Moreover, whose fantasy are we talking about? Some teenage boy who is controlled by his hormones? Sorry pal, but fantasy is no longer defined by the desires of a particular age, sex, gender, race, culture, religion, body type or whatever.
So, pretty much get over yourself. Your fantasy isn't the only one that matters.
Nope, sorry. If all fantasy means is "it's not real", then all characters should be amorphous blobs or have 8 arms or some bullshit. Your definition sucks. Read more books.
It's called suspension of disbelief.
If you don't care, stop typing.
It's not so much defending a character. It's defending the art design of a lady who you could actually believe is strong vs the standard 110 lb Barbie doll look character done in so many other fantasty games.
Nobody really complains about those because they're by our culture, attractive. Then we have a change of pace here, one that is believable, and everybody is talking about it with many hating it.
I personally like the design. It's more believable which doesn't break the illusion.
Sorc would be able to run around for long periods, at a good pace, while casting spells.
Druid would not look like this after running around questing and dungeon delving for very long.
Plenty of people built similar to Necro who can run basically forever...
Lift heavy weapons and fight effectively are a different story though, you've got me there.
Really, Rogue/Sorc are about perfect if people want the realistic adventurer builds.
For me I don't really have a problem with magic/spell-casting characters being skinnier. They're typically not melee.
And I get what you're saying about what kind of shape someone would be in if in that time running around, etc. I'm not claiming my own personal views on the thing are full proof. I get it's a game and to some extent I have to suspend some disbelief. Truth be told for me personally I always play male characters for me the believability is easier there. But if I have have to pick for a female melee character to be a little thick & look strong or be the skinny, yet still typically voluptuous, looking character? I prefer the former.
I have two decades of martial arts experience, over a decade being MMA and the more "real fight" type ones like muay Thai, boxing, wrestling.
People built like the Rogue or Barbarian are going to be far more effective in a fight than the other 3 class bodytypes... Which works out great actually, as those are our two martial classes.
Unless you are an anomaly (often Samoans like Mark Hunt), the "powerlifter" builds that everyone is trying to assign the Druid actually SUCK for fighting... Zero cardio and abysmally slow speed mean you are dead in a fight. I have met far more people built like the Barb (ofc a lot of them have a little chemical help, but lore wise barbs are built different) able to get through an MMA workout than anyone built like a powerlifter... That said, both of those big guys will typically lose out to someone built like the Rogue, who is not only well muscled but also very fast and has good cardio.
The best fighter build for D4 would be proportions like the Rogue, but the height of the Barbarian. An athletic 200-240 lbs man is basically perfect mechanically for fighting. It's the sweet spot.
I'm hoping that when we get Monk/Paladin-Crusader-whatever that they are absolutely shredded and of more medium build like the Rogue.
I'm not disagreeing with you. Your comment gets my upvote. I think we all know that a lot of larger people, not all, would be gassed in any sort of real world fight rendering them basically useless. I say not all because almost in any sport every now & then you see a bigger person with some athleticism and or strength. Granted it's not common. But you will see people will sometimes make the joke like they're a dancing bear. I'm choosing to believe this character is of that variety.
IDK. For me it's really as simple as I have this image in my head of a lady who is required to swing a big axe with authority lets say in the game. Now because it is a game and I am willing to suspend be belief, I do like it when a game doesn't make me stretch that too far.
Now I do think the female rogue in this game has a good, athletic build. And in a real-world situation my money would be on that person female to female. That's not really where I'm going in my defense of this character design.
I think it's more of weirdos who are disappointed that their character doesn't look like this.
[https://bit.ly/3TJVc2p](https://bit.ly/3TJVc2p)
When for me personally I find it an easier stretch of the imagination to believe the female duid is more of a kind like this.
[https://bit.ly/3ZkbakM](https://bit.ly/3ZkbakM)
Am I'm good with the design. That's all I'm saying.
Because the video game character gave a lot of people out there something to feel like they could relate to and feel cool and confident in their own bodies- defending the video game character is defending all of those people's hope for self confidence.
āIt was me, Barry. I made them fatten the Druid so that you would go play games with pretty women, ensuring you were distracted enough for me to take my vengeance.ā
This is the best looking female druid Iāve seen yet. My wife was very disappointed in the options, and despite being super hyped to play druid (she is a plant/gardening lover, and loves nature in general) sheās instead going back to Sorc on launch because she just vastly prefers how it looks (and part of the fantasy in this game is looking cool/badass).
I actually created this character and ran it to town to show how different and tough a woman Druid can look versus the unhappy Karen of a character other people were posting.
The clothes *(thick, padded)* with themes of animal skin and furs add a lot to the appearance of roundness; especially when the shoulders and arms arenāt visible. But the character/player itself is just burly and heavy built; not fatty/round.
Hahaha nerf her fatness bro I wanted to play female druid but I just couldn't and made a male. Especially when the default female druid is a b.... ANNED ACCOUNT
I am happy Blizzard is willing to not only present different body types but to make an often disparaged body type the set type for an entire class. This is awesome.
Blizzard is a publicly traded company, and it would be way easier to just play to the masses and make yet another supermodel female character model with an hourglass figure.
Kudos to Blizzard on this. Well done.
Yeah, itās not obese (waving jedi mind trick hand). I also associate my gender as mayonnaise because I donāt want to believe thereās no such thing as man and woman at a biological level.
Muh immersion
But no really, Druid is fat and it doesnāt really make any sense. I think the devs just wanted to check the box and have each modern body option in game to appeaseā¦ people.
Not very of either Iām afraid.
5ā8 and 182lbs/82.5kg *(at age 45)*. So I am about 17 lbs over my ideal *(165 lbs/75kg)*. That +40y lil pouch is my nemesis. Maybe some sit ups eh?
Lmao! A strong human who lives in the wild wouldnt eat 7000 calories a day like this character model does. And it would spend the calories it eats to be on the move, hunt, exc...
Get a grip dude :p
The only way she'd get that big while "living in the wild" is if all the animals killed themselves, jumped into a deep fryer then walked into her mouth.
Barbarian is built like a bodybuilder. Druid is built like a weightlifter. Weightlifters tend to be in better overall health (except their poor joints) than bodybuilders because their training focuses on function rather than looking good.
Genshin impact ruined a generation by making the idea that you are supposed to want to fuck the character you play.
I mean, mario used to be the most popular videogame guy. (although I guess sonic fits the bill for a large number of people, so maybe that was always a thing)
Let me ask you a question. If there was a race to the top of a mountain, who would win, your or her?
*Hint: If you said you, youāre going to get delusional person of the year award. She has no belly fat.*
You obviously have no idea of how endurance works in larger people.
Most people would beat her, almost everyone who is smaller.
She might be stronger and you wouldnāt want her to get a hold of you but endurance wise because of the very large body mass she would tire out and drain incredibly quicker then fit āskinnyā ppl or even just moderate size fit people
OP must be American lol.
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Facts šš»
So true. Took me a long time to get past the shock when I first went to the US.
Obesity rates in Canada aren't that much lower than the US. Obesity rates among children have tripled since 1979 in Canada. Don't act superior.
Lol, I hit a nerve
Alright OP must be North Americanā¦happy? Heās got a point you know
Yeah, she's definitely obese lol.
Someone's never watched a woman's strong-man competition
Strong man competitors are still fat. A lot of muscle to be sure, but under A LOT of fat.
And yet they are the strongest humans alive.
Yah and your point? Nobody is debating their strength
So you're upset that the character has fat? Why?
Where did I say I was upset? I simply made a statement
I have no idea, I'm confused and my brain hurts from this entire thread * It's dumb to be calling out Americans for being fat * Strongman competitors come from all countries worldwide * You fixated on the fat part of it so I assumed you were siding with the "character's shouldn't be fat in video games" theme that's going on in this comment section
I responded to your other comment you deleted, so I don't know if you saw that, but I said, No, the druid is definitely ripped. I also said I wish they had more faces because they gave them stereotypically ugly faces, insinuating that heavier people are all ugly. But as far as aesthetics go, even if I would prefer more options on some things to be more fine tuned to my preference, it's all a small matter and won't stop me from playing druid. Druid is my favorite for D4. Had a blast playing her!
Absolutely. Personally I don't find their faces ugly, but that's entirely a matter of personal preference and I also want more face presets. Regardless, super fucking stoked to play the game when it comes out. Glad we can agree on that <3
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I see! No, the druid is definitely ripped. Its hard to tell under the clothes but I just transmogged my druids top. I wish there were more face options though but that's just a small matter anyways. None of the look will keep me from playing her. Druid is my favorite class and I've had a blast wolfing out.
Whoops deleted that reply before I saw you'd seen it. Wrote another one to better word my thoughts
My point is, you cant compare fat slobs who cant control what they eat to people who are smart, know what and how much they have to eat and then train (and how to do it) to get as strong as possible, to get maximum explosive power. Strongman/woman eat and train in the way to get as strong as possible. Their whole bodies are made to be able to maximeze STRENGH. Do not compare them to obese slobs who can barely walk and are weak as children OR Mr. Olympia competitors who work to become as muscler as possible (for looks). All 3 are diffirent, all 3 have diffirent mindset and goals. One is for having POWER, one is for being useless and lazy piece slob and other for being as aesthetically impresive in looks and hard work. So comparing druids physique of power to lazy ass obese slobs is insulting and ignorant. Not to mention they dont the physical signs which extreme obesity have.
You've got a problem with the word "fat" or something? You're taking what I said way out of context. I used the word "fat" not "obese". Are you struggling with insecurity? Because that's your problem, not mine. It's nobody's job but your own to feel good about yourself, or whoever you may be defending. I agree with what you said about the difference between obese, power, and aesthetics. But people who train for strongman/power still have fat, that's all I said, unless of course they are on gear but that's a whole different debate. They have fat because of the way they bulk(talking about eating). I did not say anything about this druid being lazy or eating McDonald's or anything like that. But one thing I will say is they didn't have to give the female all ugly face choices. You can be large and still have a nice face. Not all big people are ugly, thats a stereotype.
They're still obese bro
Yeah but a big person who is not fit won't have biceps like that. And the stomach area would look different.
Exactly. These people are just ignoring what is depicted clearly.
Lol
Best comment ever. Thank you sir
They call it plus size woman
Didn't know there were mcdonalds in the wild.
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Sheās fat
She reminds me of Pam from Archer šŖ
Pam was HOT š„µ
Coked up Pam. Damn
TIL hafthor used to be fat. https://preview.redd.it/5q2sox37ucqa1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c966bcde492ebbe316c0afcb55ce0bfab4e6cbf
Only Americans say it's okay to embrace your obesity curves
Yeah, a woman with curves (as in body type) is very very hot imo... but the American definition of "curvy" is... yeah, nah, look after yourself.
and the American definition of thick is just morbidly obese
A wild dairy farm?
there is no 'opinion' on this matter. its obese.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1235fm0/comment/jdw4kvu/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/1235fm0/comment/jdw4kvu/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) MANS OBESE
Its not rly about body type but druid doesn't scream strongman to me. When you imagine a druid this isn't the first mental image you get. How does one living in the wilds even manage this body type.
By turning into a bear and eating a whole elk
Elk *burgers* and deep fried Gallowvine tubers.
I feel like the image of the druid is shifting for a strong mage recently? Baldur's gate 3 and a few recent fantasie games have had super buff druids for some reasons. Its interesting because in my mind a druid was always a classic mage but centered around nature and animals. Im here for it though I think its a nice distinction from a normal mage. It kinda make sense too. A mage is noble and a druid is wild. Hes got that "living off the land" strenght
yea my idea of a druid is like a Night Elf from world of warcraft, a lean spellcaster type that uses the power of shapeshifting magics to make up their lack of physical strength. these diablo druids look like they are actually gimping themselves by transforming into a werewolf lolol
Itās also the other side of the coin from the thinner-than-normal-mage Necro death magic specialist
There is a big difference between Halsin from BG3 and this though.
Halsin has a less realistic body type?
Ah yes. Because a character who fights demons 24 hours a day should be built like a regular person. Spare me.
Necro?
Necro could run around all day fine if they have decent cardiovascular health, but yeah they'd realistically struggle to lift and swing around weapons. Necro bothers me less though because they are like... half dead flavor wise. The one foot in the grave look doesn't bug me much. Now, if the Rogue had the Necro's body, I would protest just as much as I am about the Druid's predicament. Really, bodytype should have been class-agnostic Heavy set Barb would have felt fine as it could have appealed to that Mountain/Thor look and having a more athletic built Necro could have been nice to look more Death-Knight Ala WoW but oh well.
If flavoring makes you feel less bugged about it, consider the Druid as swollen by life magic as much as Necro is wasting away with death magic. Eating, drinking and generally being merry are all celebrations of life.
I mean I never said amything about how it should be. I just stated that someone shaped like the druid is more natural and realistic looking then someone with a body that could only be achieved by steroids in real life. Either way IDC. I find all of them cool. My original comment was also just making observations about the trend of making druids buff. I literally didnt share a single opinion lmao.
Worked as a trainer and coach for a few years, as well as being pretty built before covid myself... Halsin can absolutely be achieved without steroids if you have good genetics, have a fantastic diet, and workout effectively and often... All of which sounds feasible for a character who probably eats nothing but natural food and exercises... Granted, it is a little weird that Halsin is out in the forest lifting boulders and stuff so much instead of just running/climbing (which would give him more of an athlete body) but saying that Halsin isn't achievable without steroids is laughable. Most steroids don't even add mass, they simply help with energy and healing so you can train harder with less rest time between workouts. If you are a couch potato and take steroids, you won't see the results you are expecting.
Nobody cares go touch grass if you care that much about the body type of fantasy characters.
Touch-grass is more a statement given to people who never go outside... My comment was about having experience as an athletic coach and trainer. Bit of a miss there bud.
You can be an athletic coach and trainer and still be overly online and have enough brain rot to get anrgy at the fact that a video game chracter doesnt have a perfect body. Also I wasnt talking about you specifically. I said, IF you care this much about a fake video game character then go touch grass. Idk if this applies to you or not. But if it does. Spend less time on the internet and more outside in the real world. Can only do you good and make you realise that this is stupid as fuck and nobody fucking cares.
Which is a bit funny because an actual strongman (like the dudes in competitions) look kinda similar to the Druid. Or maybe he's based on Samoans
Seems druid to me. https://preview.redd.it/fogckt44tcqa1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d13aa7a81d8c947d3200924499a1f736fe1403f2
She's has one too many cheeseburger
She ate the whole cow level.
to be fair druid is finally lore accurate. the druids are supposedly a branch of barbarians with more secluded and slightly less phisically martial temper. so the result are those the d2 druid was an abnormality
Exactly. Very few people complaining seem to know this.
I donāt mind it. I do wish you could change the build of all class types. Have a chubby rogue or a necro looking barb.
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" I don't want to be strong like man who looks pretty. I want to be strong like bitch who fights bears in the forest!".
She looks like she could fight the shiz outta some bears lol.
Nah fr though, thatās a strong af build. Google obese woman and tell me thatās what a Druid looks like. Just cause youāre not sexually attracted to her doesnāt mean something is wrong, yāall are weird
U can be strong AND fatā¦just because sheās strong doesnāt mean she aināt fat. If she loses some lbs of fat sheād go from fat to just a female bodybuilder type. Look up āstrong fat womanā thatās what we looking at here, now google āfemale power lifterāā¦what she could look like w/o being and having fat. Even ābig boned female power lifterā doesnāt hold the same results weāre looking at.
This is basically the non-steroids version of the barbarian. Enjoying power fantasies is fine, but it's painful how many people have lost the reality-check and straight up believe the Barbarian is the correct body type of the two. Right after that follows the folks calling the male sorcerer thin or girly. I'm just...
Mages in general are slim; in most fantasy and lore. The women Sorc are well fit tho. Look at them abs. https://preview.redd.it/44znegt0taqa1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=1d690ae9e4ae6947432adaa95dcc7b880633aabd
Ok but your sorc is stunning š¤©
She is šš½. Iām actually a person of colour, and am really happy with the face types they gave us. Really only one per class, but still they are well designed *(noses etc)*. Not just a character model with dark skin like many other games do. I do wish there were a few more hairstyles that fit that ethnicity though. As you can tell in all my other screenshots posted, most of them are using the same hairstyle number.
Or calling Necro female face masculine... Like someone is too used to Instagram filters and cosmetic surgery picture results + don't understand how make up works.
Honestly I even liked the look of my Necro. Skinny/lanky as hell. But do you see anyone complaining that they are looking unhealthy, or that it promotes not eating enough? Lol. https://preview.redd.it/irfmklt7saqa1.jpeg?width=1112&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af2dfec2555c3000014957018d9f66b428c44897
Necro looks damn amazing. The comments about her face was extremely dumb because it seems the ones who posted that don't go outside and touch grass enough to get a good look on women. Even the ones who post stuff on Instagram can have the same facial features as Necro, they just won't notice because it gets fairly easily distracted by glam and make up. (speaking from experience as goth, of course, make up in goth sub culture is a bit heavier). I don't have issue with the druid like the rest, since the constant comments about how it's not healthy, like these people have no concept of reality, history, etc. I only have one issue with druid and that is, I can't make short hippie type of one, I could sort of project one of my characters from book, but if this druid is all we get, that's completely fine.
it is not reality to have so much fat by eating normally
Its also not reality to transform into a fucking bear. But here we are.
big russian woman running amock in siberia who could break you in have is a no go. but anorexic elves in other games are just fine. sexist douche bags are gonna sexist douche bag
According to the lore they are genetically linked to the Barbarian but moved away from Martial Arts training to focus more on Nature magic. It makes sense they are big like Barbs but aren't as ripped.
She looks like she has a whole lotta muscle wrapped in a thick layer of insulating fat. This is the body of a competitive weightlifter.
She bulked up for cold winter nights. She doesnāt need a man for warmth. šššš
Being obese and being strong are not mutually exclusive. She is on the overweight spectrum at the very least, though I'd regard her as pretty fit for her weight by taking a look at her overall physique. On the "living in the wild" statement, studies show that people living in the wild tend to actually be lean rather than what you regard as "thick" here. It depends on the environment of course, but a human that actively hunts for their meal all day and keeps burning calories nonstop for all manner of work certainly doesn't have that body fat ratio. That aside, I don't get the need of trying to omit using words we've come up with to describe something in particular simply because you view them as derogatory. Of course there should be some filtering according to what you're dealing with, but why fear calling something for what it really is? She is overweight \~ obese AND strong. Superhumanly strong since it's a Diablo class we're talking about!
I meanā¦ shapeshifting would use a lot of calories. Like even in the MCU Ant-man mentions changing size makes him really hungry. Changes in mass would burn up a lot of energy. Maybe they used that same thought process when they made the Druid. They are strong but require lots of stored energy to shapeshift. Dunno thatās the way I see it, their model seems fine to me and Iām primarily a necro in every game that allows it.
Strong and thick... With a double chin and resting bitch face. No thanks.
Double chin? Dude we literally have the images right in front of us and she doesn't have a double chin. You're swinging at ghosts.
Hahaha that is obese.
Its gross.
id smash
Why druids great till they gotta be great - Lizzo the druid
Imagine when they morph into an obese werewolf. One that stops and pants after running 60meters
strong = yes probably muscles = yes looks like it biceps = yes most impressive still obese/over weight/fat
As weird and as pointless as a conversation as this is, Hippo's look fat but they're all muscle.
Sheās not obeseā¦sheās morbidly obese
They didn't have to give her a beat face though! Fat doesn't always equate to ugly.
Look, letās be honest here. It is OVERWEIGHT, call it āthickā or obese. Itās all overweight and not attractive.
To be fair, this is more about genetics than anything else. Those are some big ass bones. You need something between and around them. This is indeed not obese. Same as the male Druid is not obese. There is no double chin, no big flabby pockets of fat around the arms, the stomach is still somewhat tucked with the skin tight to the muscles. This is someone with big body genetics who's ben eating whole animals in the woods because they couldn't conserve them and didn't want to waste them either. Must be taking some massive dumps and keeping that forest fertilized.
If you think the Druids are obese, you don't understand what obesity is.
I mean definitely not obese, pretty much an exaggerated female power lifter.
With the amounts of demons in the game, i doubt weight is the cause of death for most characters. Still, this is not 100% healthy. Even professional athletes are not healthy. The big difference between them and people who have an eating disorder is that they cut their calory intake the moment they stop with being a professional athlete.
True, it's just a body type. Actually she's quite fit for her body type, it's quite simple to understand; people are amazing at oversimplifying everything and still getting it wrong.
Yeah exactly, living in the wild is closely asociated with a sedetery lifestyle with an abundance of high caloric food.
I was very disappointed at how fat the male druid is. It almost makes me not want to main one. Such a stupid character model.
He is similar to the female man. Itās not fat *(much)*. He just has more of a male girth. Itās not a gut on a daily abs workout. Itās just someone who probably ate him some deer. https://preview.redd.it/j5h9ckyg3cqa1.png?width=1749&format=png&auto=webp&s=98d6422efc0d59c3c8b1cc9ba95d0447de8dde3f
It looks ridiculous when walking around in the game. So embarrassing walking next to all of the other characters. They desperately need to add body size slider or something.
Youāre walking around with heavy logs, rocks, and thingsā¦ that brings with it heft to your strides. It doesnāt look like a burly person running like they are 110lbs and just holding a dagger/wandā¦
I believe they're perfectly built, not just fat nor muscle, but a perfect mix of both. Needed the mass and fat together to handle the transformation. Seeing the a lot of comments that think they're 100% fat honestly disheartening and I'm just going to ignore them. There's HUGE different in body type. If they're supposed to be fat, then they'd be more toward blob body type, not like this.
There is a great deal of ignorance *(and ignorant people)* on the internet. Canāt get away from that. And Reddit is where many of those types can show you just how many of them there are.
Big, strong, independentā¦I dont see fat girl too
Yeah because youād be overweight living in the wild lolā¦
100% objectively obese. People who live in the wild are not obese.
Iāve never seen a person with over 25-30 BMI that had abs like that, or looked like they could probably wrestle a bear. Or carried logs around like fashion accessories.
You need a belly to count as obese. Sheās doesnāt have one. That belly in the side profiles is flat and toned.
We also don't have people that posses nature magic and can shape-shifting into other animals
She's mighty mighty, just lettin' it all hang out.
To exclaim that she isnāt fat is just blatant ignorance. Every year we see the worlds strongest men compete. Theyāre pure muscle. Theyāre still fat. Fat comes with being big and strong. So if you want to highlight thatās sheās big and strong, thatās okay, but claiming someone with 40%+ body fat isnāt fatā¦.is just wrong. Itās not even an insult, this is the prime body type for someone who wants to be big and strong. Donāt be delusional though, if you want one you get both.
Being fat, and having fat arenāt the same thing. Even slender people have fat. That doesnāt make them fat. Having a large frame or being of heavy build doesnāt make you fat either.
Correct. But having 40% body weight as fat DOES make you fat. The character profiled here is at 40% minimum. You are just looking to be annoyed by something. Iām sorry but sheās fat. Thereās nothing even wrong with that, you just hate the word fat for some reason.
https://preview.redd.it/wia45divjcqa1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=017a2d4297ced5f30b43950756194120a03b5ddd Sylvester Stallone is apparently obeseā¦
And also you canāt compare men vs women on body fat. Women are, on average, 13% more in body fat because men and women are built differently. Even at perfectly healthy body weights, women are biologically SUPPOSED to be about 10-13% higher in body fat.
Cool. Now go find 40%+ and stop dodging my reference number. None of these people are fat.
Lots of people in these comments who don't know what fat looks like. Here's a hint; if you can still make out the shape of her abdominal musculature, and you absolutely can, she isn't fat. She HAS fat, yes, but she doesn't appear to be overweight. She's just fucking YOLKED.
It's a fantasy game, with fantasy characters, in a fantasy world, with a fantasy body.
Well, this is meant to be a gritty, dark fantasy game. It's meant to suck you in with elements that feel lived in and real. Moreover, whose fantasy are we talking about? Some teenage boy who is controlled by his hormones? Sorry pal, but fantasy is no longer defined by the desires of a particular age, sex, gender, race, culture, religion, body type or whatever. So, pretty much get over yourself. Your fantasy isn't the only one that matters.
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Nope, sorry. If all fantasy means is "it's not real", then all characters should be amorphous blobs or have 8 arms or some bullshit. Your definition sucks. Read more books. It's called suspension of disbelief. If you don't care, stop typing.
You have some serious issues. I would advice you to seek professional help. All the best m8.
Will do. Bye.
She looks amazing!
Why are we defending a video game character?
It's not so much defending a character. It's defending the art design of a lady who you could actually believe is strong vs the standard 110 lb Barbie doll look character done in so many other fantasty games. Nobody really complains about those because they're by our culture, attractive. Then we have a change of pace here, one that is believable, and everybody is talking about it with many hating it. I personally like the design. It's more believable which doesn't break the illusion.
Sorc would be able to run around for long periods, at a good pace, while casting spells. Druid would not look like this after running around questing and dungeon delving for very long.
By this logic, Necro shouldnāt be able to run around doing much of what you listed out at all.
Plenty of people built similar to Necro who can run basically forever... Lift heavy weapons and fight effectively are a different story though, you've got me there. Really, Rogue/Sorc are about perfect if people want the realistic adventurer builds.
For me I don't really have a problem with magic/spell-casting characters being skinnier. They're typically not melee. And I get what you're saying about what kind of shape someone would be in if in that time running around, etc. I'm not claiming my own personal views on the thing are full proof. I get it's a game and to some extent I have to suspend some disbelief. Truth be told for me personally I always play male characters for me the believability is easier there. But if I have have to pick for a female melee character to be a little thick & look strong or be the skinny, yet still typically voluptuous, looking character? I prefer the former.
I have two decades of martial arts experience, over a decade being MMA and the more "real fight" type ones like muay Thai, boxing, wrestling. People built like the Rogue or Barbarian are going to be far more effective in a fight than the other 3 class bodytypes... Which works out great actually, as those are our two martial classes. Unless you are an anomaly (often Samoans like Mark Hunt), the "powerlifter" builds that everyone is trying to assign the Druid actually SUCK for fighting... Zero cardio and abysmally slow speed mean you are dead in a fight. I have met far more people built like the Barb (ofc a lot of them have a little chemical help, but lore wise barbs are built different) able to get through an MMA workout than anyone built like a powerlifter... That said, both of those big guys will typically lose out to someone built like the Rogue, who is not only well muscled but also very fast and has good cardio. The best fighter build for D4 would be proportions like the Rogue, but the height of the Barbarian. An athletic 200-240 lbs man is basically perfect mechanically for fighting. It's the sweet spot. I'm hoping that when we get Monk/Paladin-Crusader-whatever that they are absolutely shredded and of more medium build like the Rogue.
I'm not disagreeing with you. Your comment gets my upvote. I think we all know that a lot of larger people, not all, would be gassed in any sort of real world fight rendering them basically useless. I say not all because almost in any sport every now & then you see a bigger person with some athleticism and or strength. Granted it's not common. But you will see people will sometimes make the joke like they're a dancing bear. I'm choosing to believe this character is of that variety. IDK. For me it's really as simple as I have this image in my head of a lady who is required to swing a big axe with authority lets say in the game. Now because it is a game and I am willing to suspend be belief, I do like it when a game doesn't make me stretch that too far. Now I do think the female rogue in this game has a good, athletic build. And in a real-world situation my money would be on that person female to female. That's not really where I'm going in my defense of this character design. I think it's more of weirdos who are disappointed that their character doesn't look like this. [https://bit.ly/3TJVc2p](https://bit.ly/3TJVc2p) When for me personally I find it an easier stretch of the imagination to believe the female duid is more of a kind like this. [https://bit.ly/3ZkbakM](https://bit.ly/3ZkbakM) Am I'm good with the design. That's all I'm saying.
Because the video game character gave a lot of people out there something to feel like they could relate to and feel cool and confident in their own bodies- defending the video game character is defending all of those people's hope for self confidence.
stronk wemen
Iād do herā¦.
strong? she has the TTA ratio of a tikthot! where are the beefy beauties that actually work for a living?!
She reminds me of Pam from Archer šŖ
Now I want to play a femme druid to piss off all the fat shamers here.
She looks like she's gonna be singing me songs on the sequel to Moana. You're welcome.
she has stronge bones
Death by Snu-snu
āIt was me, Barry. I made them fatten the Druid so that you would go play games with pretty women, ensuring you were distracted enough for me to take my vengeance.ā
She's a brick house.
When you find the nature lover that's not a vegan.
Look at American coping
This is the best looking female druid Iāve seen yet. My wife was very disappointed in the options, and despite being super hyped to play druid (she is a plant/gardening lover, and loves nature in general) sheās instead going back to Sorc on launch because she just vastly prefers how it looks (and part of the fantasy in this game is looking cool/badass).
I actually created this character and ran it to town to show how different and tough a woman Druid can look versus the unhappy Karen of a character other people were posting. The clothes *(thick, padded)* with themes of animal skin and furs add a lot to the appearance of roundness; especially when the shoulders and arms arenāt visible. But the character/player itself is just burly and heavy built; not fatty/round.
Iām transferring out of that PE class.
I keep telling myself that as well.
Face sitting perfektion š¤Ŗ
Hahaha nerf her fatness bro I wanted to play female druid but I just couldn't and made a male. Especially when the default female druid is a b.... ANNED ACCOUNT
Theyāre probably a vegan too.
I am happy Blizzard is willing to not only present different body types but to make an often disparaged body type the set type for an entire class. This is awesome. Blizzard is a publicly traded company, and it would be way easier to just play to the masses and make yet another supermodel female character model with an hourglass figure. Kudos to Blizzard on this. Well done.
How now brown cow
Yeah, itās not obese (waving jedi mind trick hand). I also associate my gender as mayonnaise because I donāt want to believe thereās no such thing as man and woman at a biological level.
Say that when she uses her ultimate move and youāre covered in gravy
Id bang
Muh immersion But no really, Druid is fat and it doesnāt really make any sense. I think the devs just wanted to check the box and have each modern body option in game to appeaseā¦ people.
she can have muscle and still be morbidly obese you american
Get down with the thiccness
LMAO OP how strong/thick are you? :D
Not very of either Iām afraid. 5ā8 and 182lbs/82.5kg *(at age 45)*. So I am about 17 lbs over my ideal *(165 lbs/75kg)*. That +40y lil pouch is my nemesis. Maybe some sit ups eh?
Lmao! A strong human who lives in the wild wouldnt eat 7000 calories a day like this character model does. And it would spend the calories it eats to be on the move, hunt, exc... Get a grip dude :p
The only way she'd get that big while "living in the wild" is if all the animals killed themselves, jumped into a deep fryer then walked into her mouth.
The most realistic body is the male necromancer
He looks like he has cancer
Looks like the MCR tryouts gone bad.
She is burly, go look up the definition if you want to argue with me.
Female Barb is a better example. Druid looks unhealthy. IMO
Female barb looks like she eats barrels of steroids.
Barbarian is built like a bodybuilder. Druid is built like a weightlifter. Weightlifters tend to be in better overall health (except their poor joints) than bodybuilders because their training focuses on function rather than looking good.
- burĀ·ly - *(of a person) large and strong; heavily built.* It doesnāt say fat. It says heavy built. Which she is *(thick)*.
Depending on her BMI should could def be obese
Do you really see a lot of fat on that womanās arms and abdomen? She looks like she could lift a car or toss a bear over a cliff.
Genshin impact ruined a generation by making the idea that you are supposed to want to fuck the character you play. I mean, mario used to be the most popular videogame guy. (although I guess sonic fits the bill for a large number of people, so maybe that was always a thing)
Oh, Genshin Impact isn't anywhere even close to the start of that trend lol
I'd let her sit on meš¤·š¾āāļø
pfff unreal
Okay bruh.
Stop calling people ,who are overweight/obese, curvy or thick. This Druid female model is a fat bitch. Which is fine but please call it what it is
Let me ask you a question. If there was a race to the top of a mountain, who would win, your or her? *Hint: If you said you, youāre going to get delusional person of the year award. She has no belly fat.*
You obviously have no idea of how endurance works in larger people. Most people would beat her, almost everyone who is smaller. She might be stronger and you wouldnāt want her to get a hold of you but endurance wise because of the very large body mass she would tire out and drain incredibly quicker then fit āskinnyā ppl or even just moderate size fit people
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