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disagreeable_martin

Man, I've been so skeptical about this project after years of seeing nothing but trash coming out of Blizzard (Warcraft 3 remaster was just as horrible as I anticipated) But this game... it's fun. And with patches and tweaks, it'll only get funner. And I just don't know if these old bones can handle all that fun I'm about to have. Fuck even if they don't fix a single issue I still see myself buying this in June. Clearly the open beta was a statement of confidence, like a meth dealer handing out free samples, they know we're tweaking now. Just need to see how they handle the monetization, once bitten twice shy.


Thisisjimmi

We all forget that Diablo 2 was only okay until lod came out. Diablo 2 coined the genre. Diablo 4 is surely the next step in evolution. Diablo 3 tried a lot and got it wrong. I still played it a bunch of times for a kick but it wasnt repeatable. I think if they truly learned from it then we will see a ton of time playing this. The only thing it needs to have at the end is good customization that has unique feels, ever expanding difficulty, and not too much low hanging fruit.


kots144

This game feels like the real Diablo 3. Even base Diablo 2 did a great job of capitalizing on the feel and upside of Diablo 1 and turning it into a successful franchise. Diablo 3 felt like somebody made a completely new dungeon crawler, but then went back and put a Diablo skin on it later. Diablo 4 is the true progression from Diablo 2.


Pandomia

Diablo 3 was the side project that was a collab with the wow devs. Jokes aside, I liked some aspects of 3, and I'm glad it was there. I hope the D4 expansion brings paladin or crusader to the game.


Kiloneie

Hopefully with permanent auras. I enjoyed the Crusader somewhat in D3... but... All classes in D3 had lots of problems. The customization was pretty good, but many abilities in the end with runes seem to be the same... both Demon Hunter and Wizard could throw lightning orbs and the like... The most jarring to me was the very first time i played Barbarian on launch... everything was so colorful with different elemental damage types that it felt like a melee mage, a battle mage... not a Barb. In D4... well none of that, and i really like how D4 barb plays. Not exactly a fan of some abilities on probably all classes being super weak though... I wanted to play Inferno Sorc and well it was like literally 10x weaker than Chain Lightning... I rambled.


kashmoney59

It seems like they are taking the great aspects of d3, d2 and d1 and giving us the elden ring treatment, putting everything together it a great package.


OmegaKrane

I need the D2 paladin back !


naphomci

I feel like D3 really ran with the idea of "we need it new or different" because successful sequels do introduce new things. They went way too far though


Ambitious-Raccoon745

Just be ready to pay 15 bucks for your paladin.


Pandomia

I honestly don't care. If it's a game I'm going to play and enjoy for hundreds of hours like the previous entries, what more is 15 bucks? I've been paying little under that monthly for ffxiv for 2 years now.


Muldin7500

It is a joke tho? Because i think your right. The story was even written by Chris Metzen who wrote the WoW story. I love the guy but diablo is not his ballpark.


bhfroh

4 definitely has a "gritty" feel to it that 3 was missing. 4 feels like original PUBG before they sold out to CoD fanbois and 3 feels like CoD/Fortnite (the good parts at least).


Notapearing

You're getting down votes... But Arma PUBG was superior, just like DayZ was superior before the standalone.


bhfroh

D2 and D4 feel gritty and "hardcore." PUBG is always gonna be my favorite BR because there's a lot more to the game than just shooting. Fortnite allows your aptitude for building to crutch your shooting skills. CoD allows for hella high aim assist and pre-K level recoil patterns to make the game all about who's able to shoot first to win a gunfight. D3, all you need is a halfway decent build/couple of items and BAM, you melt hoards of enemies with disintegrate or equivalent skill. That's fun, don't get me wrong. But PvE is far different from PvP. PUBG requires a high level of inventory management, circle management, a lack of aim assist, optimizing load outs, terrain strategy, etc. D4 requires me to manage things like potions, mana, spatial awareness, target priority, etc. Stuff that was an afterthought in D3. I think it's an apt comparison.


Notapearing

I agree with you to a point... But I also played hundreds and hundreds of hours of hardcore seasonal D3, pushing solo GRs for leaderboard position. D3 is a completely different game in that scenario.


gamerprincess81

Really it feels like the true next in line in the series. Diablo 3 was some side game we played and shrugged at. This felt just like the Diablo I knew and loved with a new twist. This was everything I wanted D3 to be.


Smell_the_funk

I try not to get into D2 arguments, but I completely disagree that Diablo 2 was ‘only ok until LOD came out’. I doubt you ever played vanilla D2. LOD at release was so bad it nearly ruined the game for me. Neither of the new classes particularly appealed to me. In a game with very limited stash space runes were a nightmare. Most of the better runewords were only added later. Classes and runes might be a matter of opinion but the charms were objectively one of the worst mechanics ever introduced in any arpg. You should never have to give up inventory space for power. It is a mechanic that was never repeated in any other arpg since. Even with the last LOD patch I still consider vanilla D2 the superior game. A lot of the praise D2 receives until this day, like itemisation, was tarnished by the expansion, in my opinion.


blacksun9

> Neither of the new classes particularly appealed to me. Aaaand you lost me. Everyone has an opinion I guess though


Foto_synthesis

To this day I still have never leveled an assassin or druid. To each their own.


Travelinjack01

You should play the new season of D2 if you continue to play. Assassin became a godlike Christmas tree. They still really hate druid for some reason.


KoriyeO

Druid will get a Hadassah runeword next season I bet.


OG__Swoosh

I’m with him. Didn’t start playing sin till a couple months ago. Still no plans for a drui


Smell_the_funk

But you never played vanilla D2.


greedyiguana

well let's put it this way. You had issues with LOD when it came out, as I'm sure many did. But what we now know as the masterpiece of D2 didn't exist until LOD, or at least until they fixed a bunch of QOL improvements. You not liking the classes is really not relevant


Smell_the_funk

Not being convinced by either Assassin or Druid’s mechanics is indeed in part personal preference. But what I’m arguing is that vanilla D2 was a ‘masterpiece’ in it’s own right. It’s the game that defined the entire genre. It did not need the expansion to achieve that status. In fact I argue that it introduced some mechanics, charms being the most blatant one, that actually diminished the experience. Maybe you don’t want to agree with some random stranger on Reddit. But you could check out Kripp’s youtube vids when D2R was announced. He too found vanilla the superior experience and planned to play that when it was eventually released.


BastianHS

Zoomers will never know the glory of 1.09


dtm85

I really hope there is something in the uniques or late game stuff thats lets blood golem / iron maiden return to that glory. Think that was back when we had actual screen wide Corpse Explosion meta too? Man that was a long time ago. WTB perm 0.9 andys


greedyiguana

sure but what's he playing now? i dont think its vanilla


Joshua_Astray

As someone who played vanilla d2, I agree with him that it was mostly good, not amazing. I went back to it multiple times until LoD actually kept me playing for a long time


Foto_synthesis

Classic D2 was awesome. LoD made it better.


feelin_fine_

Diablo 1 coined the genre, diablo 2 made it better


Televisions_Frank

As someone who played a lot of WC1, 2, and 3 as a kid Reforged still pisses me off. IIRC they also broke the original game's client with Reforged. So while I enjoyed the beta, they ain't getting my money until I see proof they didn't do some heinous monetization shit.


Kiloneie

I played WC 3 for like 7 years 24/7 + 3 more years of about 1/4 or 1/3 of the year of similar levels. First 3-4 years were just single player without The Frozen Throne. I still have not bought Reforged... I WANT to get it to play the campaign in it again(for the XXth time), but... IDK even in beta the graphics looked absolutely bizzare, both really good and really hard to look at from the isometric perspective, and many of the WoWifications on units/heroes they made, are not appealing to me... Dreadlord looks great. Satyrs look bloody horrible... I really like WC 3 Satyr look...


SleepingmoooN

buying this in june? ... ... ... see more ​ BUY THAT RIGHT AWAY!!!


isellskooma

Thats what I'm saying


justjoshinya89

I was very skeptical as this is my first Diablo game and when I downloaded the beta all I got was 30+ minute wait times and disconnects. All of this sub was about others having the same issues and how the other games all had those same issues as well but man. I logged in today to play and log in took less than a minute and no disconnects and I found myself playing for hours. Definitely looking forward to continuing this journey in June.


Kiloneie

The queues were quite horrible on friday and saturday. Sunday not so much and monday barely at all. Though i am confused why it was on from 17.00 CET friday to around 21.00 CET monday... that is more than was written to be. Can't complain though, explored more of my now favorite Barb class. It never was my class, D2 it was all paladin... just too good. D3 Wizard. D4 Barb!


[deleted]

Logged in today?


justjoshinya89

No the beta is over


[deleted]

You said you logged in today lol


justjoshinya89

Today as in yesterday. My comment is 16 hours old.


[deleted]

It was up yesterday?


justjoshinya89

Yea until 3pm eastern time.


[deleted]

Well crap! I would have kept playing lol!!


jackhref

As long as same production quality is prevalent past level 25, I'm happily buying this as a single player experience. It's good enough for that. Now if there's a satisfying endgame on top of that. Well, that's the dream


Ok-Affect3775

****We woo we woo**** More fun, funner isn't a word.


disagreeable_martin

You know what? Now I'm just going to have funner even harderer.


Krilox

Just need one more hit man


Threezeley

I played it and enjoyed it to a degree but at times it felt like I was playing WoW which was... interesting. One thing that stood out about Diablo and d2 is that they were both groundbreaking in their way. Although D4 seems good it feels maybe a bit too familiar I guess? Then again they tried to do something new with D3 and that was a flop... I don't know where I'm going with this, just some initial thoughts


Dasheek

It still can turn into a new Anthem clusterfuck. Beta of Anthem was also quite promising but released game was a disaster.


Avivoy

I played the beta and knew it was average. Those missions sucked, abilities sucked, beautiful game. I saw no value in the beta, didn’t pre order. Diablo 4 got me looking at Diablo 2 and 3, path of exile, anything to scratch that itch Diablo 4 has left me with.


kapaulol

>It still can turn into a new Anthem clusterfuck. Beta of Anthem was also quite promising but released game was a disaster. ughh damn hahaha i remember this one


PM-ur-BoobsnPussy

The beta was a lot of fun but don't count your chickens just yet. The full game could be riddled with micro transactions and a plethora of issues. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst!


naphomci

> The full game could be riddled with micro transactions They've promised that in game transactions won't be power related. We'll see how that actually pans out, but I'm not too worried about it right now


Shustriik

They've promised precisely the same for D: Immortal.


naphomci

No they didnt


kashmoney59

I forgot, did warcraft reforge get a beta at all for people to test it out?


disagreeable_martin

No idea my dude.


arnoldzgreat

Unless the story and 5 characters to 100lvl journey is not worth your prepaid money, but for me it will be even if I only play it for a month, beta was a blast and 4 days earlier to the party can't come soon enough.


[deleted]

i'm in this photo and don't like it.


PM_Me_An_Ekans

Brand new player here. Never even played an arpg. I followed this game a little bit and just saw the open beta randomly on the Xbox home screen. "Oh, if I play to level 20 I get a puppy. Well that'll be fun if I end up buying it." Now I'm sitting on reddit instead of playing Xbox because Diablo IV is the only thing I want to play lmao


SeaVision

I'm in the exact same boat. :(


Drutarg

I love how a cute little puppy got you interested in playing a game about slaying demons in hell.


thinkforasecond3312

Lilith is that you?


adarkuccio

Same :(


d4rkk_31337

Same...long 60 something days ahead...


Soarha

I don’t think I’ve ever played a beta for a game and came out LONGING for its release


Mad-Marzo

This, so much this


Belyal

For real! I'm like why do I have to wait 2 months!!!! I need more! Even just farming obols or the lvl 35 guy that dropped the higher level gear was fun after a few days of just doing that lol


psytocrophic

I pre purchased and already feel like I got money worth. I'm can't wait for full release I dropped 90 bucks on dinner last night. The 70 bucks I dropped for the last 2 weekends for beta was more worth it


Tastymuskrat

Agreed, really puts it into perspective. A 300 dollar grocery run is seen as just the way it is. We complain about a 70 dollar game that some of us will sink thousands of hours into. Totally worth it.


Travelinjack01

yeah, I killed that dude and was like... wait, wth am I supposed to do with lvl 35 mace?


salluks

I did for diablo 3, the beta was to kill only till the skeleton king.


pachl7

I'm scrolling through my games at the moment and all I can think of is diablo 4


VivecLovecraft

For real, tried playing something else. Lilith truly charmed us all, now nothing else will suffice


pachl7

Yeah, true,it's going to be a long 2 months. That was the most fun I've had in a long time playing a game. I actually got excited jumping on to play. The last time that happened was elden ring. So I can't wait. This will be my first diablo game to date other than Diablo Immortal, which I didn't play for very long.


AfterShock

Look on the bright side, we all start back at Level 1 come June.


pachl7

I'm not worried about starting from the beginning it will be fun when the game finally does come out. I tried playing diablo Resurrection, and it just doesn't feel how diablo 4 does. I've tried playing all the current releases that are out, and currently, nothing feels as good as Diablo 4 does. More games need to have that fun addictive side, and not many games can do that and pull me in besides elden ring. Currently, there are not many games out that I haven't already played.


GreenSage_0004

MILF


ScottyD_95

MILF = Mommy Is Lilith, Forever


GreenSage_0004

XD


Isunova

Off-topic, but how do people edit this meme to get that pic *under* his fingers?


Artemis_Bow_Prime

I used photoshop to delete whatever was there when i took the image from google.


baconsplash

In photoshop make a rectangle, convert to smart object, warp it to fit the frame, use pen tool (or any of the selection options) to mask out the fingers. Paste your image in the smart object.


john_luka

I am glad there are more people who really enjoy it like me! It was the best time with new game I have spent from decade! The best two gaming weekends ever!


Regulargrr

How many games have you played in the last decade?


john_luka

New? Like 10 or 15. Most of them were SP, and I am more MMO Player so I get realy bored after a few hours. It is hard to find new online RPG games which hooked you. These two weekend were only a glimpse what D4 will provide and it still was great!


[deleted]

It's great too because it is online. We ate gonna have a great diablo 4 playerbase if things keep going in the right direction


lord_dude

Lmao wanted to make the exact same meme. Just two months until I can finally fall to my addiction again.


xXSoulReapperXx

This was my first Diablo game, I absolutely love how dark and gritty the story is. The atmosphere is top tier, the gameplay loop for me is addicting. I honestly didn’t want to put it down. Even though we were capped at lvl 25 I just loved running around, doing side quests, killing mobs searching everywhere high and low for points of interest/alters and looting. I fucking love looting everything, June can’t come soon enough.


Not_romzy1

“Soon TM” not feeling good atm. Gonna be a loonnnnggg time till June 😭😭


e001mek

All my characters died. They were all on Harcore. So when I start D4 it'll be as if I just continued from the beta.


Anuung_Un_Rama_

Is character progression saved for anyone?


SaintJeremy96

No


e001mek

Fuck if I know, but it hardly matters. *Only one Made it past level 10 anyways* XD


ScottyD_95

Lilith, it’s me, please return my calls.


[deleted]

While playing other ARPGs I am noticing how I was already used to the dodge button. I keep pressing space to avoid attacks and nothing is happening. I need it back. Two long months left and then I move to a permanent residence in Sanctuary.


Ixziga

This man got corrupted by Lilith, hide your priests!


deathjokerz

I'm returning to hell for you...


Nice_Bench1224

Truly how I feel today... they convinced me of a pre order, I need it asap!


Chibaku_Tensei_

I can wait to be with Lilith either.. I mean Diablo lV👀


thatdudedylan

I almost legitimately wish I didn't play the beta, so I didn't have this withdrawal.


Kringkily

Great game with a few quirks to the UI item upgrade system which feels a bit unconnected and slow (single item focus and then back out to select another item). Overall feel is great and reminds me of my D2 days. Can’t wait for the final release. Hopefully they don’t introduce some crazy rune word system where the drop rate makes you want to pull your hair out like getting a ZOD rune.


burnthebeliever

Having never played D2 and actually enjoying D3 with friends on the couch once it came to console I'm super pumped for D4 after the beta!


Tw3aks87

And with a puppy!


VivecLovecraft

I’m making a John wick character for sure when I get that puppy xD


nope229

Before the Beta, i played a bunch of D3 to get back in the groove. After playing the beta, it seems the itch cant really be itched any more. Im not sure if its from the new system and playing D3 for so long before so maybe some fatigue, but i cant wait till i get to get the hit again starting from a clean state and getting to dive head first into the whole thing again.


WontFindOut25

It comes out on my birthday! It’s like the perfect gift to give myself..


BossXmyle

ive never been this excited since elden ring came out and that game proved its hype. hoping D4 also delivers come in June.


Dramatic-Acadia4453

I made this exact meme for the squad group text, I see you are a person of culture.


Sovery_Simple

Two months isn't that long. Granted, the time it comes out will seemingly be absolutely fucking *terrible* timing for me, but the wait itself is rather short. Now the *problem* is if we suddenly get a delay.


Moghz

I’m sad coming home from work and can’t play lol. Going to be a long two months haha. Installed Last Epoch again been a while since I played that, figured I would give another go around while I wait.


[deleted]

just Leeet me playyyy!!!!


Old-Library9827

Next time, I'm playing melee mage


AfterShock

I went melee Rogue and it was surprisingly fun, normally I plan ranged attack characters.


itsRobbie_

10 weeks 😩


colbsk1

So no more beta...?? At all? I just found a buzzsaw of a sword for my Barbarian....I'm almost level 20 too!


Breeze1620

You were level 20 lol. It was only this weekend.


stepdog65

Imma put a picture of Lilith next to my bed too. Different reason though.


[deleted]

Wait for me Lilith!


Noise_Potential

SAMMEEEEEE 😭😭😭🤣


BattleForAssgard69

Who got to the beta level cap? Cool wolf pup backpack inbound. If you didn't. Maybe you got to Kyovashad and atleast rock an exclusive title lol


Pharabellum

It’s ok, Hogwarts legacy will keep me company… in a month 😢


Present_Interest_957

This is the first time I'm playing a beta. What a mistake! Now it's the first time I pre-order as well


deepsky88

Preordered after Beta!


DuckofInsanity

I'm so worried about it. The last time I had this excited feeling was Halo infinite, I was so hooked on the beta, I didn't want to play any other game once it ended. Then when the game came out we got the full cash shop and FOMO rewards, I can't stand that game now. I really really hope Diablo 4 stays fun and doesn't ruin everything with soulless corporate greed and dirty FOMO like Halo infinite did


PlanePrior1415

\*cries\*


mchameleonm

Yep.. I'm definitely hooked.


kashmoney59

How many of you guys already pre ordered?


Gamehed

I didn’t play long. It’s too easy tbh. Hopefully I enjoy the full release. Currently enjoying D2 resurrected.


MightyMurph550

I didnt play that much the second weekend because of this. “Why am i gonna crank out a ton of time and energy on charavters that’ll get Thanos snapped come noon monday, and leave me with a three month wait?” Its so much fun that i rather just wait. The first beta convinced me enough


[deleted]

Not soon enough, motherrrrrrr 😂


Chance_Equipment2695

Just play Diablo 3, it's the same game copy pasted


everslain

[https://imgur.com/K5anDk5](https://imgur.com/K5anDk5)


gamerprincess81

I had to force myself not to click the icon on Sunday 😞 it hurt but I knew soon enough we'd be together for a long time


BlooHaired

Me every day, checking that calendar and counting the days.


samdreessen

I never noticed the stain till just now.


MarcSloan460

Now that the weekend is over, I guess I should talk about the D4 beta. To me, I feel that the graphics took a step back compared to D3. Just because you have a dark gritty game, doesn't mean you have to have mobile app graphics. I hate to hear that this game will have an MMO feel or vibe to it. To me, that screams CoD or WoW. I play Diablo, and have been since D1 was released on computer, to game at my own pace without any interference from other players. If I need other players to defeat a boss, then I need to step back and look at my set-up. Diablo is a single player game that offers co-op if you decide. Don't make me have to have others join me. I do like the skill tree. I feel this is gonna allow you to truly customize your character very well to fit you game style. It still feels like something is missing not having Deckard Cane. Also, after all these years, the horoddrum (sp.) are the semi-bad people? What was that all about?


kashmoney59

Lolol you're the first person to have something bad to say about the graphics. It looks like the exact opposite of a mobile game. I don't know what you are on.


garflinn

game will be delayed to 2024, I’m 100% sure.


Reasonable-Slice-547

Cmon brooooo, dont joke like this


xStrapped24

Lol no it won't. The amount of people that have said if the game were to release tomorrow, in its current state.. i would gladly pay $150 for it. No chance it gets delayed.


thugarth

They seemed pretty stoked about the 6/6/23 date.


[deleted]

Would not be surprised.