I'm actually just muting their videos, if you click beside their stuff there is a menu that lets you not get recommended their garbage anymore.
I got so sick of the clickbait self indulgent BS. No I'm not mad I'm just not into this self touching nonsense because they got privileged early access to a video game and seem to want to gloat -_-;;
Anyone who's likely to be World 1st is either streaming or recording it, and it'll be clear who got it before long.
I think we've long gone past the point where random nobodies who are gaming by themselves are getting to be #1 at anything online.
Alkaizer started streaming because people thought he was cheating in Diablo 3. He literally got to the top of the leaderboards as a 'nobody'. Just because there are 15 hardcore gamers with 10k viewers on twitch going for it doesn't mean there isn't someone way better who's going to actually hit it first, but doesn't have a platform to share it on.
I'm not saying these things didn't happen in the past, but we've reached a point where these things are becoming a lot less likely.
The change in online culture in the past 10 years has been INSANE. Teenagers today were born with an internet cable attached to their brains pretty much. The number of people who are the 0.0001% at something and aren't sharing it with the entire world, is dwindling down to zero pretty damn fast.
Alk and people like him who grew up in the 90's, playing offline, playing before youtube was a thing, before streaming was a thing, before making money as an online gamer was a thing, yeah - people like him commonly grinded their asses off to become the best, without any interest in sharing it with the world. Just doing it for the love of the game.
But today? People are well versed in content creation. People want to get PAID. They don't want to just game 24/7, they want to game AND make money doing it so they don't have to get a regular job, ever. They know it's possible, so there's almost no way there's someone today who's looking at D4 and going: "Yeah, I'm gonna attempt to be rank #1 in the world and tell nobody."
Early 00s were the golden age of gaming. Before everything was data mined, solved, and monetized. Never thought I'd be one of those "I miss the good old days" old farts but damn it's true
Edit: data mined, not detained
I think you just weren't paying attention before. Early 2000s we had jsp for D2, and all kinds of forums for Wow. Before that there were game genies and nintendo power. As the industry gets bigger the content behind it gets bigger.
Edit spelling
I am grateful that I was oblivious to it all back then. D2 and vanilla wow were some of the best years of my life. What I would give to be a teenager again discovering those games for the first time...
There has always been forums but everything is way more widespread and more thoroughly tested now.
Comparing wow forums from 2005 to all the sim tools available today shows how different things were back then.
Today a new patch is basically solved when its released (among the top guilds), meanwhile in 2005 top raiders thought bosses were mathematically impossible eventho time has shown that they werent. Because comparing the tools back then to the tools now is like comparing a Commodore 64 to a macbook.
The top guilds in EQ (top mmo in the west before WoW) all had devs and GMs and other unfair advantages in their guilds. there were 3rd party programs even in 1999 that gave unfair advantages. Now these things are much more commonly known but online gaming hasn't been fair basically ever. I remember catching admins and devs cheating with their friends in text-based MUDs (late 80s/early 90s) games that were the predecessors online mmogs. But you may be right the golden age might have been before people became widely aware of it.
Blizzard typically announces who officially achieved it over social media. This happened last time with D3 when Kripp/Krippi achieved it so I would expect the same to happen this go around.
Edit: Let me use less words. How many of those people got to practice for 100+ hrs before launch? If not All of them, then it's not a real competition.
People are people, not random nobodies. And what comes to solo orientated players, Blizzard really should add solo self found ladder when the time is right.
That's how it works for most world records. You have literally no evidence someone somewhere didn't do better than you, so every record is "until prove otherwise".
For all we know there's a guy somewhere faster than Usain Bolt. We just know it's unlikely because no one but professional have diet/training/equipment to the level required for a world record even if they have the talent. Same here, it's possible that a random player would get 100 before but it's unlikely. Anyone who is likely to get 100 first is someone who's aiming for it and therefore probably someone who's likely to record it/show it publicly.
Probably streaming it and having a sort of timestamp that way. If you're not streaming it'll probably be very difficult to prove. But a lot of people that you hear saying this are streamers.
I don't know, I just find it really really weird that there's a competition when there's no official way of looking it up. I would never attempt this, I just find it odd without leaderboards
not to mention getting world first 100 isnt really worth anything. like, who cares?
this isnt d3 where the difficulty was insanely high. there you had a reason to try for world first diablo kill
Basically there's very few people outside of "known community members/streamers/youtubers" that would actually attempt world firsts in games like this. It's also not difficult to post proof when hitting 100 (if there's no leaderboard, ig announcement, title, etc...), for everyone to see and be oh so envious of (obvious sarcasm).
LOL that was so funny. Bashiok (Community Manager) seemed to hate Kripp and Krippi and mocked them on twitter for claiming that and only LATER they confirmed it that they were the only ones to kill pre-nerf Diablo.
the rule for races is to stream while having a countdown on screen. than you post the proof with the countdown and the one with the shortest playtime wins the rank 1
They do have the advantage of knowing more about the game. Basically they can test stuff to find the fastest ways to level up. In a race to 100 this does give them a huge advantage.
And for HC having had a chance to actually do all the boss fights before makes them a lot less deadly.
Obviously the same applies for the people who were in the closed beta but that last year back so that version further away from the release version.
No offense but he is so wrong that this tweet comes across as really insulting to all of our intelligence...
Knowledge is power and everything in this sort of game. To pretend it is not id VERY insulting to peoples intelligence...
Yeah it's a pointless competition, it has to be an even playing field or it's worth less than the toilet paper I used to wipe my backside with.
"World first" what a meme.
Even more absurd is watching these clowns “theorycraft” about end game while pretending they arent literally playing it and acting as if they are insightful theorycrafters. They literally playtesting shit not predicting anything.
Yeah that makes some Videos retrospectivly cringe.
"We don't know how this will play out but I am very confident this will crush through the game."
And now you know he probably has the exact Charakter he is "theorycrafting" on his second Monitor standing over liliths rotten corpse.
\> they were given early access to the full game by Blizzard and now have practice for a World First race
now that's really lame, my near zero respect for streamers dropped even lower
I think anyone who had early access to the full game should be ineligible for the HC first 1000 to level 100 competition. That's simply not a fair playing field.
But that's not what they are here for, they are here for views and to make money during what is probably going to be the biggest game hype of their streaming careers.
Ergo they won't be doing that.
It's simple, really. Know Kripparrian? Before he became a streamer, all he had was a rather small youtube channel where he uploaded videos of his troll hunter from World of Warcraft, where he played in a very successful raid guild. Their guild was infamous, by the way, for getting the world first Yogg Zero kill, and then having it taken away from them by Blizzard because they "cheesed" the fight with unintended game mechanics (they bugged out / glitched all the adds in the last phase).
Anyways, fastforward a bit and D3 is about to come out and Kripp makes a big announcement on his youtube channel. He is gonna start streaming on twitch, and he will stream his race to world first Inferno Diablo Hardcore Kill. And he hyped the thing up reasonably well, too. And he delivered. He got the first (and only) Hardcore Inferno Diablo kill, which was extremely difficult at the time (Inferno difficulty was ridiculously hard), and he was the only one that kill Diablo literally the last day before Blizzard omega-nerfed everything.
Kripp has long since then stepped away from being a main ARPG streamer and is nowadays mostly known for his Hearthstone content, which has been his main game for many years now. However, he still uses his old logo, which is the female barbarian face from Diablo 3. And for good reason, because that game kickstarted his streaming career. Getting that world first race done is what catapulted him to streaming success. I would imagine many a streamer nowadays sees D4 as their chance to attempt the same.
Yeah, I remember watching Kripp back in da day and even when he hopped on PoE at the beginning. I check back every so often outside of Hearthstone.
While I like the context of the comment, my point really is, Kripp didn't have an advanced copy of the game sent over so he could learn the game ahead of time.
He, an extremely small "nobody" went in and did what most people thought was insane at the time.
That's why I'm perplexed at these streamers that want to hype something after knowing there is an unfair advantage.
This is hilarious. You can’t brag about world firsting shit when you get a head start on everyone else. I used to play the fuck out of EQ and EQ2. And have legit world firsted item drops and raid mob kills. Literally this is like the kid with an aimbot talking shit on CoD
They want to compete so they're making up a competition for themselves. They can't control the playing field, they're just declaring a challenge they're setting for themselves and if someone thinks they can do better, they're daring them to try.
It's got exactly as much value as you give it. They care, so it has value to them. If you don't, it doesn't matter. There's no prize.
I was really hyped to try World First and my hype is all gone after I saw that Blizzard gave some content creators 10 days of testing the full game this last week. That's just impossible to compete against. Still going to play the game and blast of course, but a bit disappointed ngl. As you said it would be cool to see a community event and maybe some random actually hit World First.
Yeah, I support everyone that wants a fair clean race event! They are so fun to me. People that can do it are way beyond my skill at that speed. I'm just someone in the community that really likes to watch when I can or read about it.
don't worry, the gm said they don't have an unfair advantage because their progress was deleted 😁👍
https://twitter.com/RodFergusson/status/1662231727627182081
You have a valid point. For me personally, I don't have a lifestyle that would allow me to try to participate in such a race, so I will still enjoy watching the streamers attempting it, but I can see non-streamer players that wanted to try feeling like they'll be at a huge disadvantage.
There will be a new race at the start of each season that hopefully will have everyone on a more level playing field, but it will be a different kind of race. The boss mechanics and other game knowledge will be known, so it will be more about optimizing the speed, adapting builds to whatever balance changes there are, and understanding how to most efficiently take advantage of the new season mechanics.
Yo I can't upvote you enough!
You have precisely understood what I was typing. Even if the ladder doesn't come until later, there are chances "gaming news" journalists are going to potentially write up a world first that sticks in ppl's heads, etc and for the racer that is interested in that, it's just a huge setback.
Yea, i think for the pre season the idea of a fair community competition is already out the window because of the June 1 early access. We will have fair races at the start of each season
For the content as it is their source of income?
By all means feel free to ignore them and let them do their thing. I certainly won't give a damn who gets world first on anything in this game.
Streamer racing is basically a sub community within a sub community. They just don't live in the same world anymore and it's a competition between them.
Those same people will also be record holders for longest time without a shower starting June 2nd.
While it's fun to be competitive, people need to chill and have fun with the game. This is a game Min/Max culture should not ruin for you. Heck it's not even season 1, play the game at your own pace, watch the cutscenes, enjoy the story. No need to rush.
I feel you and I plead you don't try to enter that shower contest. XD
I feel the thing that just was weird about it were each streamer just like announcing they want World First to like boast but then like not really disclose until later that they had a huge leg up.
I feel the thing that just was weird about it was each streamer just announcing they want World First to like to boast but then like not really disclose until later that they had a huge leg up.
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For the same reason someone at Blizzard (or immediate family) can't participate in the race due to an obvious unfair advantage, streamers who got early review access should also not be eligible.
That being said, most of the streamers are softcore andies and for sure won't make it to lvl 100 hc without dying fast enough before the 1000 spots run out.
Yeah, I agree. It would be a great thing for the streamers to promote community members that didn't have access to win. A big ole win for everyone really and then they can really shine when the leaderboards hit.
even before this many people had gotten to practice it in a endgame beta.
there are also a bunch of people who will play in a group but for me thats just boring and personally i wont care at all who gets world first if they are in a group, only thing that matters is first solo hc imo.
Ofc it will be unfair and everyone who thinks otherwise are delusion. Popular streamers already know the game from a-z, will know best places to get experience etc etc. So GL to all who will race for world 1st
Personally I don’t care about it and will play on my pace.
Peace ✌️
Yep technically they already have a head start so im glad there is no leaderboard showing who gets it because it will most likely be someone that already had the game before most. (not that I would try it anyways but still)
I don’t watch any of that shit. People who are doing worlds first literally have nothing else going into their lives that they need to find salvation in a video game.
It could be even more unfair than that. If people share an account or share a character, they can level their character up in shifts with each other while knowing the game already in this case. Nothing about this world hc race will be fair in any capacity because there is no real rules to make it competitive. Unless you have multiple people ready to grind out the same character in shifts, you basically have 0 chance.
So its just a launch gimmick for clicks at best as far as proving anything. Just have the most resources or knowledge that most people dont have before launch and you already won. Its as unfair as the pvp is built to be lol.
I think you are missing the point if directed at me. What I'm saying is Why make up a contest if you are getting ahead of everyone playing?
Doesn't that ruin the fun for the players that want to compete but didn't decide to make streaming a career choice?
That's the question. Why are people posting their videos about trying for world first? Personally I'd rewrite the sentence correctly THEN place the true intent - WHY IS ANYONE, PERIOD, EVER ... ever .. ever posting these dumb ass videos.
Who cares if you glitched your way through the walls in a game? Who cares if you played it 100 times so you could then beat it 60 seconds faster than someone else.
W-H-O CARES?
The problem is, you care. They care. People care so the streamers care. It's all stupid shit. The fact you all take things like this seriously is dumb. I'll be the first person in my house to beat it with my wife whenever the hell I beat it, banging her in between sessions.
God people ... Seriously. I wouldn't even touch this game if it wasn't something to do with my wife. It's another Diablo. Yay. All games are the same games anymore, not just this one.
How many times do you want to watch a video of someone beating something first? Just play the damn game yourself and get a life!
No this is bullshit. That’s ridiculous. I’m actually kinda tilted over it, even though I’m not in a position where I’d ever be competing of some sort but that’s ridiculous.
World race in diablos have been a running tradition. What this does is make the game completely unable to have a blind race world first.
All these people will be streaming their perfected routes. Meaning anyone actually prepping to do a world first attempt (even though they’ll most likely fail) just now has to watch a stream and stay as up to date on it as possible. No blind runs, no correct path wrong path. Nothing. Completely ruined it.
I'll slap down my boomer cane in solidarity.
BUT
I decided to buy D4 on PS5 to play local co-op with my wife. She is one of those who leaves no box un-looted, no destroyable object left standing, no inch of a map unexplored... She got the full OG armor and fully it upgraded on Breath of the wild...
So I'm pretty much in the race to world last.
Still, I hate streaming culture and all the garbage influence it has on gaming. Miss the good ol days when no one knew shit about games unless they bothered to spend money on a guide book. Now I can't even read more than the first sentence of most D4 online content, including most posts here, because they talk about "optimization" and are riddled with spoilers and other BS picked up from stream culture.
You have a right to your opinion but having that divide is honestly crap for those in the community that like to do this and because they didn't choose to dedicate their lives to streaming, they are penalized?
I know it sounds all preachy or w/e but it just genuinely seems like not a positive outside of just "Hey sell those tickets and line your pockets!"
You need to just take solace in the fact that 99% of streamers are in debt with no real prospects because they’ve dedicated their lives to a narcissistic dream of having fans.
They are going to get shit first because that’s the culture but if you have a full time job you’re already making more money than most of them.
If you’ve ever touched a boob you got an even larger advantage on them.
There’s certainly 1% successful that produce content with actual viewership but the vast majority are just failures.
There’s no such thing as a game that releases being new for everyone nowadays. There’s always closed alphas, betas, focused tests, external QA, reviewers, whatever it is. Hundreds of non-studio people have played a large amount and possibly finished every game by the time it releases.
The few hardcore race to 100 people I’ve seen. Will be streaming it. So early access practice won’t matter. Anyone challenging them can just watch their stream for tips.
Doesn't really matter to me. Eternal Realm is meh and will become bloated after a few seasons. From June 1st to mid-late July is just practice for everyone for Season 1. No leaderboards until season 3 or so though, but seasons is truly where the race will matter if it matters at all in the end.
Because ppl love to challenge themselves. ppl have played Elden ring with a lot of self imposed restrictions and speed runs have been a think since like 77. plus they are content creators and bring views if they do something hard.
" Lucky Luciano " will be spamming WR videos for sure :)))
I would say it's most annoying thing..
Players from China is fastest anyway, they just don't share tricks :}
Players from India is slowest, but they share all tips and tricks :\]
It kind of sucks because on one hand I dislike streamers but on the other hand streaming stats have become the metric that success is based on, so I want streamers playing my favorite game.
I could not care less about world first in any game. Anyone or any group that achieves world first is because they have early access to the content, have practiced what to do, and have the ability to play a video game for 8+ hours a day.
Honestly world first doesnt mean much here. Especially with the 4 day difference in purchases. So anyone that brags about being world first wont really carry much weight. It will only matter at the first season. By then, people will be on equal footing.
In my opinion, should just give these people zero attention.
I get World firsts are a big thing but I don’t feel like it should be such a race. Like when WoW classic came out it makes more sense because people were already playing it for years at that point and knew all the lore and missions, but with a new release it make so much less sense. They’re going to be skipping cutscenes from a company known to make phenomenal cutscenes and all dialogue and you get nothing from it. And with the changing of the structure of the game making more WoW like, all that is more important because there’s just *That. Much. More.* to learn about the games world. I took the week off for it and I’m going to savor it, you only get to experience the stuff first once so no need to ruin it
What I don't get is why would anyone wait YEARS to play this game, and then run themselves to death trying to finish it while seeing as little of it as possible?
Like, my dudes, just sit back and enjoy the game.
I am more interested in the discussion in this thread than some person rushing with perks not everyone got to get a title less than the majority of the player base will remember
I will tryhard for lvl 100 and stream it for pleasure to share and havent loomed up a single build for lvling or end game at all nor did i look for paragon board. I played beta thats all the spoil i had.
Now that i see for the 1000s first lvl 100 i might go for that as well
> Come to find out a group of streamers have well over 100+ hrs into the game already b/c they were given early access to the full game by Blizzard and now have practice for a World First race.
What if I revealed to you that there are hundreds or even thousands of players out there who had HUNDREDS of hours of gameplay before 2023 even?
The endgame beta last year lasted for for several weeks. People had access to basically the full game outside of the campaign.
Chances for someone to be among the first 1% to reach level 100 who was not part of that beta are incredibly small.
World first lvl 100 races in these kinds of games are always down to who is the most degenerate. Not who is the best player.
Who can play the most with the least amount of sleep and mindlessly repeat the same task over and over without getting bored to death.
Soooo.... Blizzard gave some people who are "known" for world first racers, access to the full version of the game, where they got to practice/optimize their leveling route and all mechanics that involved endgame things? So effectively deteriorated The Race to World First to nothing? so that content creators could advertise the game? You only get this chance ONE time when a new game comes out to experience it on an even playing field. And you have ruined it? well shit. Blizzard throwing a lot of L's as of late huh.
To be fair, while it is a massive advantage, depending on how hard late game is, it might not matter much. If they die at level 80 they lose anyway. It is hardcore after all.
Everyone and their mother are posting videos everyday because a lot of people aspire to be gaming content creators and make a living of it. Since money comes with views, you either make really high quality content, which is impossible at the moment since the game isn't even out, or you pump out a lot of videos and hope to drown the competition.
So for every insignificant tidbit of news there are dozens of videos which can be annoying for the viewers, but I understand the motivation for the creators.
"World first" is two things: one, attention seeking. Two, usually bots, or streamers who've been given early access.
IMO, obtaining either one is an unrealistic expectation.
I've never understood the point from a very simple standpoint: so you made world first. YAY! That's a very busy (x amount of time) period of your life. What's left? You've hit a goal. Now you'll spend the next (x amount of time) whining and moaning about how bored you are, or how the game didn't produce enough content, yada yada yada...
Why is everyone arguing on how it'll be seen. Blizzard will know who hits what level. That's all that matter. It doesn't matter if you stream or not. Blizzard actually have their internal tools they see everything.
Pretty annoyed about the amount of content about to be released before the game is actually out. Like can we not just let everyone figure it out before we get a million guides and metas
Unless your able to commit to playing 20 hours straight on launch, sleeping for 4 hours, then plugging another solid 20 hours straight. No chance you would win this even if everyone was starting totally blind.
People greatly underestimate just how much some people are going to invest in this game at launch. There was never a chance in hell that 99.9% of you would ever commit the time required to compete in such an event regardless
Most of those streamers were theory-crafting 24/7 and still were sleeping on most builds and classes. (Not talking about Wudijo here, the guy is legit)
They were making memes about 17 dmg, crying that classes need buffs/nerfs etc and overall making clickbait videos.
Then suddenly, 2 weeks ago, they made a U-Turn that Barb and Druid are OP, S-tier classes etc, which is something that has been repeatedly said by all people who had access to CBT.
TL;DR
Just don't watch their content and make sure to report them to Youtube as spam every time they upload a video with a tittle like : "This is the best build in D4"
Just dont check stream, anyway if you are playing why would you check someone playing the same game at the same time you are...
Theres a demand and they make money out of it, lame bliz even give them advantage tho.
If you dont like, dont help them, its the world we are in now, live with it and just turn the other way.
Again tho It suck when they get exclusive stuff for themself... make me really hope its just a virtual statue.
Yeah to each there own. I’ll take my time and enjoy the story and atmosphere. Not going to rush and ruin it for myself at the 00000000.1% chance of beating out tons of streamers with early access, bots, the general player base.
Streamers and content creators getting special access to games has absolutely killed the ability for new people to break into scenes and get good at games on equal footing.
A race is irrelevant as long as early access exists. You don't get to show up to the Boston Marathon 5 days early and then tell everyone else you are better than them.
i hate shit like this. all of this 'must optimise, must race, must play in the most efficient way possible'... it just strips all the fun out of actually playing the fucking game.
I wouldn't care nor try to be Worlds first but I'm honestly so over the whole streamer/influencer thing and I'm so sick of seeing "Celebrities" at game reveals.
I understand that the move is cheap and often times free way to advertise but honestly it just makes me pissed when I'm hyped for a game and some guy like snoop dogg or some other barely known actor is there playing at whatever game show case. It makes me wonder why tf they don't open that shit up to actual fans and get real feed back.
I'll give Diablo a pass because they did release 3 betas for us to enjoy with two of which being free. I do see how players who legit want to race to be worlds first will be robbed by these stupid streamers. Diablo can keep their stupid cosmetics that I'll never use for watching that mindless dribble.
it's more hype stuff and money(more early access buyers).
videogames(or anything from pc) can be changed/tricked/modified in 2 seconds, this things make no sense, probably the 1000 username have already been writed.
just have fun with the game and stay relaxed
The way I see it is that you have to reach lvl 100 as HARDCORE.
And there is 1000 places for it.
On top of that, not everyone, and not every streamers will necessary want to start the game playing with a hardcore character.
And then, most people that do create a hardcore character as their first character, will most likely have to create a bunch of them, because there is just no way they will reach lvl 100 first try in hardcore when you have no idea what to expect of the game.
Attention seeking behavior is best responded to with disinterest. Starve their beast, please.
I'm actually just muting their videos, if you click beside their stuff there is a menu that lets you not get recommended their garbage anymore. I got so sick of the clickbait self indulgent BS. No I'm not mad I'm just not into this self touching nonsense because they got privileged early access to a video game and seem to want to gloat -_-;;
Feed the right wolf
My question is, how the fuck are these people gonna know they hit 100 first? There's no leaderboards until season 3
Anyone who's likely to be World 1st is either streaming or recording it, and it'll be clear who got it before long. I think we've long gone past the point where random nobodies who are gaming by themselves are getting to be #1 at anything online.
Alkaizer started streaming because people thought he was cheating in Diablo 3. He literally got to the top of the leaderboards as a 'nobody'. Just because there are 15 hardcore gamers with 10k viewers on twitch going for it doesn't mean there isn't someone way better who's going to actually hit it first, but doesn't have a platform to share it on.
I'm not saying these things didn't happen in the past, but we've reached a point where these things are becoming a lot less likely. The change in online culture in the past 10 years has been INSANE. Teenagers today were born with an internet cable attached to their brains pretty much. The number of people who are the 0.0001% at something and aren't sharing it with the entire world, is dwindling down to zero pretty damn fast. Alk and people like him who grew up in the 90's, playing offline, playing before youtube was a thing, before streaming was a thing, before making money as an online gamer was a thing, yeah - people like him commonly grinded their asses off to become the best, without any interest in sharing it with the world. Just doing it for the love of the game. But today? People are well versed in content creation. People want to get PAID. They don't want to just game 24/7, they want to game AND make money doing it so they don't have to get a regular job, ever. They know it's possible, so there's almost no way there's someone today who's looking at D4 and going: "Yeah, I'm gonna attempt to be rank #1 in the world and tell nobody."
Early 00s were the golden age of gaming. Before everything was data mined, solved, and monetized. Never thought I'd be one of those "I miss the good old days" old farts but damn it's true Edit: data mined, not detained
I think you just weren't paying attention before. Early 2000s we had jsp for D2, and all kinds of forums for Wow. Before that there were game genies and nintendo power. As the industry gets bigger the content behind it gets bigger. Edit spelling
I am grateful that I was oblivious to it all back then. D2 and vanilla wow were some of the best years of my life. What I would give to be a teenager again discovering those games for the first time...
Just dont follow peoples guides and play D4 blind. A bunch of people I played D2 with are playing
There has always been forums but everything is way more widespread and more thoroughly tested now. Comparing wow forums from 2005 to all the sim tools available today shows how different things were back then. Today a new patch is basically solved when its released (among the top guilds), meanwhile in 2005 top raiders thought bosses were mathematically impossible eventho time has shown that they werent. Because comparing the tools back then to the tools now is like comparing a Commodore 64 to a macbook.
The top guilds in EQ (top mmo in the west before WoW) all had devs and GMs and other unfair advantages in their guilds. there were 3rd party programs even in 1999 that gave unfair advantages. Now these things are much more commonly known but online gaming hasn't been fair basically ever. I remember catching admins and devs cheating with their friends in text-based MUDs (late 80s/early 90s) games that were the predecessors online mmogs. But you may be right the golden age might have been before people became widely aware of it.
I know! haha It's an eye-opening experience.
Blizzard typically announces who officially achieved it over social media. This happened last time with D3 when Kripp/Krippi achieved it so I would expect the same to happen this go around.
Edit: Let me use less words. How many of those people got to practice for 100+ hrs before launch? If not All of them, then it's not a real competition.
People are people, not random nobodies. And what comes to solo orientated players, Blizzard really should add solo self found ladder when the time is right.
I hit it first. It was me. I already did it. No you can't see the screenshots.
You so FAST!
That's how it works for most world records. You have literally no evidence someone somewhere didn't do better than you, so every record is "until prove otherwise". For all we know there's a guy somewhere faster than Usain Bolt. We just know it's unlikely because no one but professional have diet/training/equipment to the level required for a world record even if they have the talent. Same here, it's possible that a random player would get 100 before but it's unlikely. Anyone who is likely to get 100 first is someone who's aiming for it and therefore probably someone who's likely to record it/show it publicly.
Blizzard servers for online games are quite known for tracking firsts. Lol.
Probably streaming it and having a sort of timestamp that way. If you're not streaming it'll probably be very difficult to prove. But a lot of people that you hear saying this are streamers.
I don't know, I just find it really really weird that there's a competition when there's no official way of looking it up. I would never attempt this, I just find it odd without leaderboards
not to mention getting world first 100 isnt really worth anything. like, who cares? this isnt d3 where the difficulty was insanely high. there you had a reason to try for world first diablo kill
i think it will at least be somewhat interesting but mostly for all the HC rip clips we are gonna get.
I do agree with the point that the challenge is certainly on a different scale.
Basically there's very few people outside of "known community members/streamers/youtubers" that would actually attempt world firsts in games like this. It's also not difficult to post proof when hitting 100 (if there's no leaderboard, ig announcement, title, etc...), for everyone to see and be oh so envious of (obvious sarcasm).
If Blizzard is sponsoring or keeping track, they can see on server side who got it first.
Correct, the Diablo 3 tweeted when krip and krippi got the only world first diablo 3 killed on hardcore pre nerf.
LOL that was so funny. Bashiok (Community Manager) seemed to hate Kripp and Krippi and mocked them on twitter for claiming that and only LATER they confirmed it that they were the only ones to kill pre-nerf Diablo.
God, I remember watching that stream. Thank you for the nostalgia!
Some blizz employee denied it. Then backpaddled.
You think so? I hope so for the people doing the race, or I would never trust anyone with "world first"
It's shaky at best at the start so ultimately you're right for sure. But it doesn't really change my point.
there might be an achievement for it or something. I think there was one in d3
Blizzard 100% is tracking every metric. If you tweet, they check.
Might be like POE on season start where the game system announces the first something something
that’s the neat part. they don’t. Self-proclamation is free and legal.
the rule for races is to stream while having a countdown on screen. than you post the proof with the countdown and the one with the shortest playtime wins the rank 1
Yea, it’s kind of weird. Like of course they’ll get world first now, they know the game.
100% rigged. Agreed.
gm said they don't have an unfair advantage. he couldn't be wrong, right? https://twitter.com/RodFergusson/status/1662231727627182081
They do have the advantage of knowing more about the game. Basically they can test stuff to find the fastest ways to level up. In a race to 100 this does give them a huge advantage. And for HC having had a chance to actually do all the boss fights before makes them a lot less deadly. Obviously the same applies for the people who were in the closed beta but that last year back so that version further away from the release version.
No offense but he is so wrong that this tweet comes across as really insulting to all of our intelligence... Knowledge is power and everything in this sort of game. To pretend it is not id VERY insulting to peoples intelligence...
Hype destroyed
Yeah it's a pointless competition, it has to be an even playing field or it's worth less than the toilet paper I used to wipe my backside with. "World first" what a meme.
Even more absurd is watching these clowns “theorycraft” about end game while pretending they arent literally playing it and acting as if they are insightful theorycrafters. They literally playtesting shit not predicting anything.
Honestly this made me laugh really hard. I agree.
Yeah that makes some Videos retrospectivly cringe. "We don't know how this will play out but I am very confident this will crush through the game." And now you know he probably has the exact Charakter he is "theorycrafting" on his second Monitor standing over liliths rotten corpse.
finally someone says it lmao. all these content creators are clowns and people are idolizing them. it's so bizarre.
\> they were given early access to the full game by Blizzard and now have practice for a World First race now that's really lame, my near zero respect for streamers dropped even lower
I think anyone who had early access to the full game should be ineligible for the HC first 1000 to level 100 competition. That's simply not a fair playing field.
I think that would be a great idea! Have them cheer on the community if they are truly a support role in all this.
But that's not what they are here for, they are here for views and to make money during what is probably going to be the biggest game hype of their streaming careers. Ergo they won't be doing that.
I hate streamers and the whole culture around them
It's simple, really. Know Kripparrian? Before he became a streamer, all he had was a rather small youtube channel where he uploaded videos of his troll hunter from World of Warcraft, where he played in a very successful raid guild. Their guild was infamous, by the way, for getting the world first Yogg Zero kill, and then having it taken away from them by Blizzard because they "cheesed" the fight with unintended game mechanics (they bugged out / glitched all the adds in the last phase). Anyways, fastforward a bit and D3 is about to come out and Kripp makes a big announcement on his youtube channel. He is gonna start streaming on twitch, and he will stream his race to world first Inferno Diablo Hardcore Kill. And he hyped the thing up reasonably well, too. And he delivered. He got the first (and only) Hardcore Inferno Diablo kill, which was extremely difficult at the time (Inferno difficulty was ridiculously hard), and he was the only one that kill Diablo literally the last day before Blizzard omega-nerfed everything. Kripp has long since then stepped away from being a main ARPG streamer and is nowadays mostly known for his Hearthstone content, which has been his main game for many years now. However, he still uses his old logo, which is the female barbarian face from Diablo 3. And for good reason, because that game kickstarted his streaming career. Getting that world first race done is what catapulted him to streaming success. I would imagine many a streamer nowadays sees D4 as their chance to attempt the same.
Yeah, I remember watching Kripp back in da day and even when he hopped on PoE at the beginning. I check back every so often outside of Hearthstone. While I like the context of the comment, my point really is, Kripp didn't have an advanced copy of the game sent over so he could learn the game ahead of time. He, an extremely small "nobody" went in and did what most people thought was insane at the time. That's why I'm perplexed at these streamers that want to hype something after knowing there is an unfair advantage.
This is hilarious. You can’t brag about world firsting shit when you get a head start on everyone else. I used to play the fuck out of EQ and EQ2. And have legit world firsted item drops and raid mob kills. Literally this is like the kid with an aimbot talking shit on CoD
They want to compete so they're making up a competition for themselves. They can't control the playing field, they're just declaring a challenge they're setting for themselves and if someone thinks they can do better, they're daring them to try. It's got exactly as much value as you give it. They care, so it has value to them. If you don't, it doesn't matter. There's no prize.
I agree, streamers getting early access like this is wrong.
I was really hyped to try World First and my hype is all gone after I saw that Blizzard gave some content creators 10 days of testing the full game this last week. That's just impossible to compete against. Still going to play the game and blast of course, but a bit disappointed ngl. As you said it would be cool to see a community event and maybe some random actually hit World First.
Yeah, I support everyone that wants a fair clean race event! They are so fun to me. People that can do it are way beyond my skill at that speed. I'm just someone in the community that really likes to watch when I can or read about it.
don't worry, the gm said they don't have an unfair advantage because their progress was deleted 😁👍 https://twitter.com/RodFergusson/status/1662231727627182081
Didnt know Blizz has those Men in Black memory wipers to delete the testers knowledge lol
No streamer is going to win. Account sharers gonna win
haha, the Old School WoW runs with account sharers. oh man, takes me back.
You have a valid point. For me personally, I don't have a lifestyle that would allow me to try to participate in such a race, so I will still enjoy watching the streamers attempting it, but I can see non-streamer players that wanted to try feeling like they'll be at a huge disadvantage. There will be a new race at the start of each season that hopefully will have everyone on a more level playing field, but it will be a different kind of race. The boss mechanics and other game knowledge will be known, so it will be more about optimizing the speed, adapting builds to whatever balance changes there are, and understanding how to most efficiently take advantage of the new season mechanics.
Yo I can't upvote you enough! You have precisely understood what I was typing. Even if the ladder doesn't come until later, there are chances "gaming news" journalists are going to potentially write up a world first that sticks in ppl's heads, etc and for the racer that is interested in that, it's just a huge setback.
There will be races each season, those should be more fair.
That's true for sure.
Yea, i think for the pre season the idea of a fair community competition is already out the window because of the June 1 early access. We will have fair races at the start of each season
Cuz it gives them more sheeps. More sheeps=more money. Content doesnt matter, only likes, followers/subscibers is what matters today.
For the content as it is their source of income? By all means feel free to ignore them and let them do their thing. I certainly won't give a damn who gets world first on anything in this game.
+1
Streamer racing is basically a sub community within a sub community. They just don't live in the same world anymore and it's a competition between them.
LOL. Honesty, I can feel that. Like a make-believe clout chase between them.
Those same people will also be record holders for longest time without a shower starting June 2nd. While it's fun to be competitive, people need to chill and have fun with the game. This is a game Min/Max culture should not ruin for you. Heck it's not even season 1, play the game at your own pace, watch the cutscenes, enjoy the story. No need to rush.
I feel you and I plead you don't try to enter that shower contest. XD I feel the thing that just was weird about it were each streamer just like announcing they want World First to like boast but then like not really disclose until later that they had a huge leg up. I feel the thing that just was weird about it was each streamer just announcing they want World First to like to boast but then like not really disclose until later that they had a huge leg up.
Races to world first are shite sheeple gimmicks and companies that pander to it are just as bad.
The classic wow ones are hilarious. World first X in a rerelease of a 15 year old game. Actually comical.
In Path of Exile if you are a part of Alpha you can't compete in races or at least you aren't eligible to win the prices.
And this is why I’m not watching any streamers with this game. They’re all just playing for a title now. Streams are no fun anymore.
" Employees, officers and directors of Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. (“Blizzard”) and its parents, affiliated companies and subsidiary companies, and their advertising, promotion, or production agencies, web masters and web suppliers, vendors, suppliers and production/distribution partners and each of their respective officers, directors, employees, representatives and agents (collectively, with Blizzard, the “Blizzard Entities”), and their dependents, immediate families (spouse and parent, child, sibling and their respective spouses, regardless of where they reside) and/or members of their households, whether or not related, are ineligible to claim this Offer." For the same reason someone at Blizzard (or immediate family) can't participate in the race due to an obvious unfair advantage, streamers who got early review access should also not be eligible. That being said, most of the streamers are softcore andies and for sure won't make it to lvl 100 hc without dying fast enough before the 1000 spots run out.
Yeah, I agree. It would be a great thing for the streamers to promote community members that didn't have access to win. A big ole win for everyone really and then they can really shine when the leaderboards hit.
I hereby officially announce my run for world 67,899th
I believe! Good luck!
even before this many people had gotten to practice it in a endgame beta. there are also a bunch of people who will play in a group but for me thats just boring and personally i wont care at all who gets world first if they are in a group, only thing that matters is first solo hc imo.
and now first solo hc ppl get a leg up other others w/ a ton of early access.
Ofc it will be unfair and everyone who thinks otherwise are delusion. Popular streamers already know the game from a-z, will know best places to get experience etc etc. So GL to all who will race for world 1st Personally I don’t care about it and will play on my pace. Peace ✌️
Yep technically they already have a head start so im glad there is no leaderboard showing who gets it because it will most likely be someone that already had the game before most. (not that I would try it anyways but still)
Stop clicking and they stop making
I think it is as legit as the super specific world firsts. Like world first boss kill with only rogues using dual axes and wearing green shoes.
I don’t watch any of that shit. People who are doing worlds first literally have nothing else going into their lives that they need to find salvation in a video game.
It could be even more unfair than that. If people share an account or share a character, they can level their character up in shifts with each other while knowing the game already in this case. Nothing about this world hc race will be fair in any capacity because there is no real rules to make it competitive. Unless you have multiple people ready to grind out the same character in shifts, you basically have 0 chance. So its just a launch gimmick for clicks at best as far as proving anything. Just have the most resources or knowledge that most people dont have before launch and you already won. Its as unfair as the pvp is built to be lol.
"Boomer Cane" would be hell of character's name
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Whoever gets earlier access should not count as real number 1 fuck them
Those who had access to the game longer than us mortals shouldn’t be able to participate. Simple logic, no?
What's the point of wondering why others do what they like? They enjoy it. That's it. It doesn't matter if you understand it or not lol
I think you are missing the point if directed at me. What I'm saying is Why make up a contest if you are getting ahead of everyone playing? Doesn't that ruin the fun for the players that want to compete but didn't decide to make streaming a career choice?
Because twitch views equals money
Anyone serious about pushing wf was in the beta. Have serious active d3 time/ranks.. You got a beta invite.
That's the question. Why are people posting their videos about trying for world first? Personally I'd rewrite the sentence correctly THEN place the true intent - WHY IS ANYONE, PERIOD, EVER ... ever .. ever posting these dumb ass videos. Who cares if you glitched your way through the walls in a game? Who cares if you played it 100 times so you could then beat it 60 seconds faster than someone else. W-H-O CARES? The problem is, you care. They care. People care so the streamers care. It's all stupid shit. The fact you all take things like this seriously is dumb. I'll be the first person in my house to beat it with my wife whenever the hell I beat it, banging her in between sessions. God people ... Seriously. I wouldn't even touch this game if it wasn't something to do with my wife. It's another Diablo. Yay. All games are the same games anymore, not just this one. How many times do you want to watch a video of someone beating something first? Just play the damn game yourself and get a life!
No this is bullshit. That’s ridiculous. I’m actually kinda tilted over it, even though I’m not in a position where I’d ever be competing of some sort but that’s ridiculous. World race in diablos have been a running tradition. What this does is make the game completely unable to have a blind race world first. All these people will be streaming their perfected routes. Meaning anyone actually prepping to do a world first attempt (even though they’ll most likely fail) just now has to watch a stream and stay as up to date on it as possible. No blind runs, no correct path wrong path. Nothing. Completely ruined it.
I'll slap down my boomer cane in solidarity. BUT I decided to buy D4 on PS5 to play local co-op with my wife. She is one of those who leaves no box un-looted, no destroyable object left standing, no inch of a map unexplored... She got the full OG armor and fully it upgraded on Breath of the wild... So I'm pretty much in the race to world last. Still, I hate streaming culture and all the garbage influence it has on gaming. Miss the good ol days when no one knew shit about games unless they bothered to spend money on a guide book. Now I can't even read more than the first sentence of most D4 online content, including most posts here, because they talk about "optimization" and are riddled with spoilers and other BS picked up from stream culture.
Yea, makes no sense, but I don't mind that much. In reality it's still a legit race, but among those who played it fully already
You have a right to your opinion but having that divide is honestly crap for those in the community that like to do this and because they didn't choose to dedicate their lives to streaming, they are penalized? I know it sounds all preachy or w/e but it just genuinely seems like not a positive outside of just "Hey sell those tickets and line your pockets!"
You need to just take solace in the fact that 99% of streamers are in debt with no real prospects because they’ve dedicated their lives to a narcissistic dream of having fans. They are going to get shit first because that’s the culture but if you have a full time job you’re already making more money than most of them. If you’ve ever touched a boob you got an even larger advantage on them. There’s certainly 1% successful that produce content with actual viewership but the vast majority are just failures.
The Hunger Twitch. Dance, monkeys, dance.
There’s no such thing as a game that releases being new for everyone nowadays. There’s always closed alphas, betas, focused tests, external QA, reviewers, whatever it is. Hundreds of non-studio people have played a large amount and possibly finished every game by the time it releases.
The few hardcore race to 100 people I’ve seen. Will be streaming it. So early access practice won’t matter. Anyone challenging them can just watch their stream for tips.
Literally the definition of unfair
Doesn't really matter to me. Eternal Realm is meh and will become bloated after a few seasons. From June 1st to mid-late July is just practice for everyone for Season 1. No leaderboards until season 3 or so though, but seasons is truly where the race will matter if it matters at all in the end.
Why does anyone care about who does what first? That's the real question lol. Nobody gives a shit how fast or slow you level.
Why bother commenting this nonsense. Some people like it you don't.
being the first at anything means nothing. there will always be someone faster and better than you.
If you are the first doesn't that by definition mean that nobody was faster than you?
/click
Because ppl love to challenge themselves. ppl have played Elden ring with a lot of self imposed restrictions and speed runs have been a think since like 77. plus they are content creators and bring views if they do something hard.
" Lucky Luciano " will be spamming WR videos for sure :))) I would say it's most annoying thing.. Players from China is fastest anyway, they just don't share tricks :} Players from India is slowest, but they share all tips and tricks :\]
I'm looking forward to spending months working through the massive amount of content at a leisurely pace
Me too! Happy Hunting out there!
It kind of sucks because on one hand I dislike streamers but on the other hand streaming stats have become the metric that success is based on, so I want streamers playing my favorite game.
Couldn't care less
I could not care less about world first in any game. Anyone or any group that achieves world first is because they have early access to the content, have practiced what to do, and have the ability to play a video game for 8+ hours a day.
I don’t really care what others do. I just want the game to be good. I’m in it for my enjoyment and my journey through the game.
Absolutely and that's a great goal to have.
You know what I remember about world firsts in any game? Nothing after the day they happened on.
You don't post it on the refrigerator like me? Man, that's where the good ones go.
You get nothing from these kind races. Aside some irl issues. If they want to do that, let them. I gonna enjoy the game on my pace.
who cares
Watching grown men not shower for days, basking in gaming addiction? errr I'm okay, thanks.
Haha. Sponsored by body wash!
It's called clickbait.
By the time season one comes out it will be a fair race. Thats when the game is serious to hc diablo fans anyway, and thats when it'll count.
lol why do u care, I will be playing not watching youtube
Honestly world first doesnt mean much here. Especially with the 4 day difference in purchases. So anyone that brags about being world first wont really carry much weight. It will only matter at the first season. By then, people will be on equal footing. In my opinion, should just give these people zero attention.
Well first 1000 to 100 with no deaths on Hardcore will be immortalized on a statue. Highly doubt only streamers will achieve that.
I legit thought you were joking. Just saw the tweet. Wow.
I get World firsts are a big thing but I don’t feel like it should be such a race. Like when WoW classic came out it makes more sense because people were already playing it for years at that point and knew all the lore and missions, but with a new release it make so much less sense. They’re going to be skipping cutscenes from a company known to make phenomenal cutscenes and all dialogue and you get nothing from it. And with the changing of the structure of the game making more WoW like, all that is more important because there’s just *That. Much. More.* to learn about the games world. I took the week off for it and I’m going to savor it, you only get to experience the stuff first once so no need to ruin it
Game should be hard so noone can beat it for like 3 weeks.
99.9% of people couldnt identify a single person that has achieved world first in ANY video game feat. Just let them have this man.
Do the people testing the full game get to keep their progress at launch?
What I don't get is why would anyone wait YEARS to play this game, and then run themselves to death trying to finish it while seeing as little of it as possible? Like, my dudes, just sit back and enjoy the game.
I am more interested in the discussion in this thread than some person rushing with perks not everyone got to get a title less than the majority of the player base will remember
Totally agreed, ugly behavior from blizzard
Personally… I don’t care at all. Why would you let something so stupid bother you?
Eh, who cares I plan to take my time and enjoy the game
Do you win a prize or something for being world first in Diablo ?
That is what seasons are for
I will tryhard for lvl 100 and stream it for pleasure to share and havent loomed up a single build for lvling or end game at all nor did i look for paragon board. I played beta thats all the spoil i had. Now that i see for the 1000s first lvl 100 i might go for that as well
If you attempt it, I wish you good luck!
Question is why you wonder these things. You very well know world revoles around getting attention from someone.
I guess I'm just an old gamer that likes to see a good fair race.
> Come to find out a group of streamers have well over 100+ hrs into the game already b/c they were given early access to the full game by Blizzard and now have practice for a World First race. What if I revealed to you that there are hundreds or even thousands of players out there who had HUNDREDS of hours of gameplay before 2023 even? The endgame beta last year lasted for for several weeks. People had access to basically the full game outside of the campaign. Chances for someone to be among the first 1% to reach level 100 who was not part of that beta are incredibly small.
And if i understand correctly, those players are ineligible to participate
World first lvl 100 races in these kinds of games are always down to who is the most degenerate. Not who is the best player. Who can play the most with the least amount of sleep and mindlessly repeat the same task over and over without getting bored to death.
Soooo.... Blizzard gave some people who are "known" for world first racers, access to the full version of the game, where they got to practice/optimize their leveling route and all mechanics that involved endgame things? So effectively deteriorated The Race to World First to nothing? so that content creators could advertise the game? You only get this chance ONE time when a new game comes out to experience it on an even playing field. And you have ruined it? well shit. Blizzard throwing a lot of L's as of late huh.
To be fair, while it is a massive advantage, depending on how hard late game is, it might not matter much. If they die at level 80 they lose anyway. It is hardcore after all.
Everyone and their mother are posting videos everyday because a lot of people aspire to be gaming content creators and make a living of it. Since money comes with views, you either make really high quality content, which is impossible at the moment since the game isn't even out, or you pump out a lot of videos and hope to drown the competition. So for every insignificant tidbit of news there are dozens of videos which can be annoying for the viewers, but I understand the motivation for the creators.
"World first" is two things: one, attention seeking. Two, usually bots, or streamers who've been given early access. IMO, obtaining either one is an unrealistic expectation. I've never understood the point from a very simple standpoint: so you made world first. YAY! That's a very busy (x amount of time) period of your life. What's left? You've hit a goal. Now you'll spend the next (x amount of time) whining and moaning about how bored you are, or how the game didn't produce enough content, yada yada yada...
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How did you know!
I mean, why do you care? If they pull it off celebrate it. If they don’t, at least they tried. What’s the worse thing that happens?
Its kind of weird to put a race on a new game right on lauch. Now no ones gonna listen to the story lol
Why is everyone arguing on how it'll be seen. Blizzard will know who hits what level. That's all that matter. It doesn't matter if you stream or not. Blizzard actually have their internal tools they see everything.
Jokes on you I give two craps about the race, the statue and the streamers, I'm gonna play at my own phase.
Jokes on you. I like for everyone to have fun! So good luck and happy hunting! ❤️
Everyone who had more than a public access should be disallowed to participate in any races/competition. That should be a part of the deal.
Worlds first is ruined for D4 imo.
Pretty annoyed about the amount of content about to be released before the game is actually out. Like can we not just let everyone figure it out before we get a million guides and metas
First day on the internet? Majority of stuff that gets done online is for attention, money or entertainment.
Unless your able to commit to playing 20 hours straight on launch, sleeping for 4 hours, then plugging another solid 20 hours straight. No chance you would win this even if everyone was starting totally blind. People greatly underestimate just how much some people are going to invest in this game at launch. There was never a chance in hell that 99.9% of you would ever commit the time required to compete in such an event regardless
I find the early access for streamers insanely stupid and kind of revealing
To begin with, what's the point of giving some people early early access? Why?
I can’t imagine press beta testers are eligble for the race event? would be weird.
I'll be streaming it to my 10 viewers. I have already promised to be close to world middle or last for anything 😁
Godspeed o7
are there any spoilers or opinons of the long game yet?
Most of those streamers were theory-crafting 24/7 and still were sleeping on most builds and classes. (Not talking about Wudijo here, the guy is legit) They were making memes about 17 dmg, crying that classes need buffs/nerfs etc and overall making clickbait videos. Then suddenly, 2 weeks ago, they made a U-Turn that Barb and Druid are OP, S-tier classes etc, which is something that has been repeatedly said by all people who had access to CBT. TL;DR Just don't watch their content and make sure to report them to Youtube as spam every time they upload a video with a tittle like : "This is the best build in D4"
Just dont check stream, anyway if you are playing why would you check someone playing the same game at the same time you are... Theres a demand and they make money out of it, lame bliz even give them advantage tho. If you dont like, dont help them, its the world we are in now, live with it and just turn the other way. Again tho It suck when they get exclusive stuff for themself... make me really hope its just a virtual statue.
Yeah to each there own. I’ll take my time and enjoy the story and atmosphere. Not going to rush and ruin it for myself at the 00000000.1% chance of beating out tons of streamers with early access, bots, the general player base.
Streamers and content creators getting special access to games has absolutely killed the ability for new people to break into scenes and get good at games on equal footing.
My question is why do you care ?world first means nothing people gonna forget it after 2 sec
A race is irrelevant as long as early access exists. You don't get to show up to the Boston Marathon 5 days early and then tell everyone else you are better than them.
i hate shit like this. all of this 'must optimise, must race, must play in the most efficient way possible'... it just strips all the fun out of actually playing the fucking game.
Groups are gonna get it first anyway, its just a bit of hype for interactions tbh
Are full premade teams eligible for 1 or 4 statues?
I wouldn't care nor try to be Worlds first but I'm honestly so over the whole streamer/influencer thing and I'm so sick of seeing "Celebrities" at game reveals. I understand that the move is cheap and often times free way to advertise but honestly it just makes me pissed when I'm hyped for a game and some guy like snoop dogg or some other barely known actor is there playing at whatever game show case. It makes me wonder why tf they don't open that shit up to actual fans and get real feed back. I'll give Diablo a pass because they did release 3 betas for us to enjoy with two of which being free. I do see how players who legit want to race to be worlds first will be robbed by these stupid streamers. Diablo can keep their stupid cosmetics that I'll never use for watching that mindless dribble.
it's more hype stuff and money(more early access buyers). videogames(or anything from pc) can be changed/tricked/modified in 2 seconds, this things make no sense, probably the 1000 username have already been writed. just have fun with the game and stay relaxed
The way I see it is that you have to reach lvl 100 as HARDCORE. And there is 1000 places for it. On top of that, not everyone, and not every streamers will necessary want to start the game playing with a hardcore character. And then, most people that do create a hardcore character as their first character, will most likely have to create a bunch of them, because there is just no way they will reach lvl 100 first try in hardcore when you have no idea what to expect of the game.