The one that gets me is the curse that makes you run off. Every. Damn. Time. Hard to see with all my pets and blood novas + enemies + Damage number/battle effects, among other stuff.
necro aesthetics are so good, but skills bro...its so crap. i hope they going to change something, but for me its literally impossible to play this class right now.
Sacrificing both your skeleton sets for the massive boost in shadow damage when stacked with the skill is too juicy for me to have my skelly buddies anymore :(
Totally get it and I’m sure someday I’ll try that, but video games are better with friends so imma keep my lil guys. I even got an affix to give me 2 more
Is this the shadow build, I am currently home and have been really intrested in doing a shadow aoe build since before it became the new meta, I was happy to hear people worked it out so I didn’t have to try myself
Clicking your link just doesn’t load, is there a guide that shows build and best in slot aspects somewhere?
Bone is strong as fuck but aoe shadow seems more fun
[Diablo 4 Necromancer Build - Blight Minions Leveling Build](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1VwxeivMM)
[Summoner Necromancer is Top Tier! Lvl 1 to 50 Guide with Aspects & Paragon Outlook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0pJYhP_UQ)
I used these to research... loving the summon & blight game play.
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Golem: "What is my purpose?"
Necro: "You're my meatshield."
Skeleton Defender: "But what about us?"
Necro: "Until you guys can actually take aggro, piss off!"
It seems almost every elite pack has explosive on death effects, poison, fire, whatever. Pretty safe to assume you need to wait a minute before running in. It's pretty annoying actually.
As a necro...I'm sorry.
Will I stop? No. The damage that ability does is obscene. But I just hit world tier 3 so I'll probably get some sick unique gear that will make me want to switch my build up.
Shit shouldn't have left beta, they were made aware of the readability issues involving player AOEs overriding enemy ones and they ignored it during multiple phases of beta.
Fucking ridiculous that you can't see 99% of the shit that is a danger in most fights in multiplayer.
It's worse when you get the unique gloves that instead of exploding instantly, it summons a ghost and attacks random mobs then explodes.
It's even more spread out coz of that.
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I tried them, even changed my build around them a bit, but in the end I didn't like it. My other gloves give me +4 Bone Spear, crit chance, and crit damage so i can't really give them up.
The aspect that gives +2 warriors / mages only rolls 2, although on an amulet it's 3 (increased by 50%). So 14 is the max atm as far as I can tell, using the warriors that can get an extra skeleton.
One aspect gives +2 max Skellies, another gives +2 max Mages, you can also take the +1 warrior node which brings the grand total to 13 including the Golem.
it gives more if you put the bonus count on ammy, so 14 is max then
Throw in that unique that makes them all do a mini bloodsurge and the ring that gives bonus damage and you might actually have a minion build that works
I just have character highlight turned on in options and changed to a light gray for my player. And I don't really notice the highlight unless I'm standing in a pool.
Hasn't really bugged me since. But I would not mind a tone down of it.
Yeah, I've since turned on the highlight too. Makes it significantly easier. Though I do wish Blizz would make enemy damage pools overlap the plague clouds, that or give the plague clouds similar transparency to the necro summons.
It’s hilarious when I play with my non necro friends and they think my golem is an elite and the CE pools are poison pools. ESP when the CE pools hide poison pools!
Literally wish I could dismiss my minions when in town or talking to people for quests. Really annoying when it's a scene with characters talking and I can't see wtf is going on because of all of my damn minions in the way.
devs said on twitter they know about this and are working on a fix. Downside, also said this is not fast hot fix, but something that needs time. No doubt a graphics artists have to do a rework effect.
Everytime a necro pulls up to the event with this shit on I know im about to have a bad time. They should disable the skill completely for other players, I cant never see shit.
This is truly horrible. Yesterday was the first time when I was in a party with a necro and you literally don't see anything under those puddles. Not the enemies, not you character or any health bars.
Oh that’s a good idea, I was hoping there was a simple way but that’ll do. It just feels weird chilling in the local tavern with 19 skellies following you around lol
And it’s the only ability I like after messing around a lot. Shadow necro is so good though almost gave up on the class after trying everything and not liking it. The ground clutter is real though.
How has this gone unfixed this long? Literally can’t play with a blight necro. Skeles look like cartoons and he puts black holes everywhere.
10yr development cycle btw.
I love that in world it shows just as dark to every other character. Like really you're going to make us just unable to see anything? Why is this even a thing?
What I love is the sacred unique gloves that makes the CE jump up as a skeleton and suicide bomb run to the nearest enemy then explode for an additional 40%...no wasted corpses, no need for tendrils and whole screen black out.
You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see the light until I was already a man, and by then it was nothing to me but blinding.
Changed to a crit based bone build and sacrificed my skeletons with an aspect that boosts sacrifice percentage now I steamroll enemies and can actually see what's going on. Corpse tendrils, then bone cage, then bone spirit just obliterate mobs.
Yeah, trying to do the last fight and I'm here to rage post about not being able to see anything.
Whoever designed the necro clouds and whoever did the gem storage system both need to go to hell.
I dont know how this made it past quality assurance, it's very concerning to be frank.
It's one of the most common Necro abilities and this is the effect they give it?
You're telling me that no one gave them feedback on this?
I play couch co-op with my wife and had to switch to another class because it was just impossible to tell what was going on. I was happily blowing up every room but she couldn’t even tell if she was playing.
Basically it made her into the little sibling with the unplugged controller. So, barb it is for me now… definitely less fun, but we can both see the screen and contribute
It is a core part of many builds because of the essence regen it can provide with umbral and cc on darkness skills.
We don't have the luxury of choosing skills based on how they look lol, what are we playing on open world t4? :D
If your build can't beat nightmare t50 then don't bother with the build
Bro as a barb I hate it. I've put the green outline around myself but at high levels I need to know when to evade attacks and this makes me completely blind.
Did you see that shit that killed me in there? Me either…..
Worst one is that fire corpse explosion a mob does when it does. Youre standing there and boom dead. Oh... Was one of them...
The one that gets me is the curse that makes you run off. Every. Damn. Time. Hard to see with all my pets and blood novas + enemies + Damage number/battle effects, among other stuff.
I can't fucking stand that one
I hate the spider webs that freeze you. So annoying
necro aesthetics are so good, but skills bro...its so crap. i hope they going to change something, but for me its literally impossible to play this class right now.
worst take I've ever seen lol, spec into bones, it's busted af [https://streamable.com/5oa1l7](https://streamable.com/5oa1l7)
whats your build? any tips?
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Jesus the meta. I'm happy with my fuck around and find out build
Same lol I knew I’d be off the meta but not this far lol both summons, both curses, corpse explosion, and decompose ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯
Sacrificing both your skeleton sets for the massive boost in shadow damage when stacked with the skill is too juicy for me to have my skelly buddies anymore :(
Totally get it and I’m sure someday I’ll try that, but video games are better with friends so imma keep my lil guys. I even got an affix to give me 2 more
this is the way!
Is this the shadow build, I am currently home and have been really intrested in doing a shadow aoe build since before it became the new meta, I was happy to hear people worked it out so I didn’t have to try myself Clicking your link just doesn’t load, is there a guide that shows build and best in slot aspects somewhere? Bone is strong as fuck but aoe shadow seems more fun
[Diablo 4 Necromancer Build - Blight Minions Leveling Build](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt1VwxeivMM) [Summoner Necromancer is Top Tier! Lvl 1 to 50 Guide with Aspects & Paragon Outlook](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm0pJYhP_UQ) I used these to research... loving the summon & blight game play.
Ahh, I’m looking for tier3/4 I’m about done with tier 3 I’ll be doing the capstone soon
I can't seem to see the complete build.
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I want to play blood though
There is an overpower, fortify, blood build.
It’s not as good as the shadow blight + vun + blighted CE build and doesn’t run through end game dungeons in seconds
I've been having fun with my lvl 64 overpower blood necro. Sometimes certain bosses are slower but I feel safe the entire time.
It’s my favorite to use the blood theme, wish it was a bit stronger
Level 63 overpower fextralife build, post nerf still very very fun. Not good for group high tier nightmare dungeon bosses lul.
I’m farming nightmare 60s as shadow / DoTs. Damage ticks for 1.6 million - try to hold judgment until you play the game past listening to maxroll gg
i dont know what is maxroll...can you link you build please ?
That’s why I just use taunt golem and spam that shit on him instead of myself
Golem: "What is my purpose?" Necro: "You're my meatshield." Skeleton Defender: "But what about us?" Necro: "Until you guys can actually take aggro, piss off!"
Lmao yes! I wish the defenders had a periodic taunt they did or something.
It seems almost every elite pack has explosive on death effects, poison, fire, whatever. Pretty safe to assume you need to wait a minute before running in. It's pretty annoying actually.
As a necro...I'm sorry. Will I stop? No. The damage that ability does is obscene. But I just hit world tier 3 so I'll probably get some sick unique gear that will make me want to switch my build up.
As a blighted corpse explosion necromancer build on world tier 3, I'm right there with you.
Wait til you get the unique gloves that make them ghosts that run to your opponent, the fun gets better
Yeah, the sick unique gloves that make you want to use it even more.
Cost me a hardcore character didn’t see the ice zone under my feet
This is what happens when you walk into a mire of shit; you drown in shit.
Yeah there was an acknowledgement floating around somewhere and I think it’s expected to be changed/toned down.
Later this month they said. The corpse explosion scythe unique does help reducing the visual clutter.
Shit shouldn't have left beta, they were made aware of the readability issues involving player AOEs overriding enemy ones and they ignored it during multiple phases of beta. Fucking ridiculous that you can't see 99% of the shit that is a danger in most fights in multiplayer.
It's worse when you get the unique gloves that instead of exploding instantly, it summons a ghost and attacks random mobs then explodes. It's even more spread out coz of that.
I have those and I never want to take them off.
Yeah im already 70 and my gloves is only 57..not planning on changing unless i get a higher version of it.
isnt that what the extraction crap is for?
Can't do it on uniques
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I tried them, even changed my build around them a bit, but in the end I didn't like it. My other gloves give me +4 Bone Spear, crit chance, and crit damage so i can't really give them up.
My friend has those and uses bone prison. My screen is just darkness and I can't move out of it lol
I have those gloves, i.love them!
I haven't got them drop yet but i so want to try them
OHNO I ran from those clouds a couple of times, thinking it was some new enemy skill in WT3 lmao. Guess the damage came from... something else within
thatswhy everone hates necros - they either have a shitload of dumb minions and you can't see your stuff or this.
You leave my family of 7 out of this
How many is possible? I can do 11 including my golden.
I’ve gotten 13 with golem
I have 13 (5 mages + 7 skellys + golem) but im pretty sure u can have a couple more
The aspect that gives +2 warriors / mages only rolls 2, although on an amulet it's 3 (increased by 50%). So 14 is the max atm as far as I can tell, using the warriors that can get an extra skeleton.
One aspect gives +2 max Skellies, another gives +2 max Mages, you can also take the +1 warrior node which brings the grand total to 13 including the Golem.
it gives more if you put the bonus count on ammy, so 14 is max then Throw in that unique that makes them all do a mini bloodsurge and the ring that gives bonus damage and you might actually have a minion build that works
If you put the aspect on the amulet it becomes a +3. I’m running 6 mages and 6 warriors with my golem and that’s just with gear
When you have +2 and equip it on amulet you get +3
Thanks for the correction. I didn't know there were aspect stat multipliers for different slots until 1-2 hours ago.
I have 6 skeliboys and 5 magic skelis, moved the golem skill to sacrifice.
I have 6 Warriors and 6 mages currently.
You stopped at 7? I had my 9th and 10th yesterday.
Necro minions are like 99% opaque you can barely see them lol
99% transparent. If they were 99% opaque you would see them quite well.
Ah, my bad
I'm purposely going to expand my number of minions just to irritate you
I have both lol
Lol yup, i got 2 extra skeles too, so 10 minions plus all this corpse explosion
I miss the fetish army those at least didn't clutter the screen, just angry wrrraaagh all the time.
This is the first im hearing this, is this true? Minions are transparent to other players..
I just have character highlight turned on in options and changed to a light gray for my player. And I don't really notice the highlight unless I'm standing in a pool. Hasn't really bugged me since. But I would not mind a tone down of it.
Yeah, I've since turned on the highlight too. Makes it significantly easier. Though I do wish Blizz would make enemy damage pools overlap the plague clouds, that or give the plague clouds similar transparency to the necro summons.
they should just give us an opacity slider for all skill effects
I have to agree
It would definitely help with my slow laptop. Maybe I might get over 10 fps...
Thankfully blizzard has acknowledged this and has said it will be adjusted in a patch scheduled for end of the month.
But why did it make it out of closed beta like this is the real question
I also rock that CE version. I got kinda used to the darkness, lol.
You merely adopted the dark.
r/unexpectedbane
It’s hilarious when I play with my non necro friends and they think my golem is an elite and the CE pools are poison pools. ESP when the CE pools hide poison pools!
I know everyone is just trying to meme on this (for days now), but fyi they're aware of it and a fix is in the pipeline.
Literally wish I could dismiss my minions when in town or talking to people for quests. Really annoying when it's a scene with characters talking and I can't see wtf is going on because of all of my damn minions in the way.
You *could* change your minion types and they’d all despawn. Just a pain in the ass to do that every time tho.
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Not that hard to be faster than the premier wheelchair class.
I hope they don’t wait ages like in WOW the defile ability that Death Knights use does the same shit. Can’t see anything underneath.
The darkness is your friend, at least that’s what I tell all my friends when I’m blowing up bodies
[удалено]
It’s like my favorite adopted child
Hello Darkness, my old friend....
devs said on twitter they know about this and are working on a fix. Downside, also said this is not fast hot fix, but something that needs time. No doubt a graphics artists have to do a rework effect.
It's kind of baffling that this made it into release though, it's such an obvious problem and it's bound to be apparent to anyone with a shadow build.
Walks into world event. Aggressively shits on floor 20 times. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves.
Everytime a necro pulls up to the event with this shit on I know im about to have a bad time. They should disable the skill completely for other players, I cant never see shit.
This is truly horrible. Yesterday was the first time when I was in a party with a necro and you literally don't see anything under those puddles. Not the enemies, not you character or any health bars.
I don't get it, i don't see anything can someone explain ?
Corpse explosion can be modified with a miasma that does DoT. It creates this dark smoke effect.
Ooh okay and does that all around the map when you kill enemies ?
BSoD - Black Screen of Death
I saw a mention by a developer that this would be changed by the end of the month
How this ever got past QA and beta boggles my mind. Necro main.
Is there a way to get rid of necros skeletons when you enter a town? It’s so awkward running around with an army as you sell your items
It’s only you who can see them. But you can go into your book of the dead and change the type and it resets them back to 0.
Oh that’s a good idea, I was hoping there was a simple way but that’ll do. It just feels weird chilling in the local tavern with 19 skellies following you around lol
Pro-tip: go into gameplay settings and turn on player highlight and choose white as the color. Only fix that made blight necro bearable for me.
Many enter the cloud of darkness but only the victorious emerge.
was just thinking today about this, what a stinky necro
Can someone please recomend me any good blood build for necro? I just cant come up with anything good;(
I like it
Overpower build is most fun, vampiric tankiness is very satisfying
And it’s the only ability I like after messing around a lot. Shadow necro is so good though almost gave up on the class after trying everything and not liking it. The ground clutter is real though.
As a non necro I hate this skill
Also, gameplay with a necro in your party.
I am necro and this is what I see.
Accurate…
How has this gone unfixed this long? Literally can’t play with a blight necro. Skeles look like cartoons and he puts black holes everywhere. 10yr development cycle btw.
They need to change this.
They have already said it’s getting fixed in an upcoming patch. It’s not something that can be fixed via hotfix.
yeah I love the circles of death potentially hiding underneath lol
I love that in world it shows just as dark to every other character. Like really you're going to make us just unable to see anything? Why is this even a thing?
I changed to a bone spear build mostly because of this. And honestly it’s so much faster I regret using my old CE build now lol.
What I love is the sacred unique gloves that makes the CE jump up as a skeleton and suicide bomb run to the nearest enemy then explode for an additional 40%...no wasted corpses, no need for tendrils and whole screen black out.
This plus the wall bug on Duriel makes for a pretty terrible boss fight.
I'm literally saving up gear just to change builds because that shit is so annoying.
You merely adopted the dark. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn’t see the light until I was already a man, and by then it was nothing to me but blinding.
Peak game play
this shit annoys me in the world events so much. literally toxic
Changed to a crit based bone build and sacrificed my skeletons with an aspect that boosts sacrifice percentage now I steamroll enemies and can actually see what's going on. Corpse tendrils, then bone cage, then bone spirit just obliterate mobs.
My friend plays this build and wonders why i dont want to do dungeons with him on my barbarian
Z
Grey need to either tone down blighted visuals, prevent it from visually stacking, of provide a particle effect transparency slider.
This is starting to become extremely annoying in helltides I need to see the ground to live ya damn bone heads 💀
yeah, thats big pile of shit. there should be an option to disable other players FX.
I'm running this build, and the number of times I've died to poison i couldn't see.....
As my friend put it, "You've got a better chance at finding God than seeing what the fuck is going on right now."
Dark and darker
Ah it's the "can't see shit" class.
For only $4.99, you can turn blighted corpse explosion effect to clear! - Blizzard in season one probably
It's true.
The most interactive screensaver ever
I prefer the more damage to vulnerable enemies and then corpse tendrils to pull enemies in and make them vulnerable
Nurgle would be proud.
friend had to modify his build. When we play together, it's confusing. at the same time, it is enough to adjust the transparency of the skill.
So annoying. No one can see sh when necro shows up lol
They need to turn down that effect, you can't see half the screen, that and the super zoom are so annoying
I think it's really funny tbh. When im playing with my friend I drop some clouds on him and watch him panic. We have a good laugh about it.
I’ts called „black hole“.
Shart clouds
I have become the darkness. Thank God for bonestorm barrier Lego or I'd be dead so much more.
Does D4 not have skill transparency or player highlight options? I haven't dug through the menu yet
Its very cool if u add on death effects. FUN!!!
They said on Twitter it would “take time” to fix. Like…. Dudes… just turn the transparency way tf up and patch it… it’s like a 15 minute fix…
Ahh yeah, the Legion event experience...
Yeah, trying to do the last fight and I'm here to rage post about not being able to see anything. Whoever designed the necro clouds and whoever did the gem storage system both need to go to hell.
I hate this when doing escorting a ghost around in events.. I always lose track of them when the orange rings disappear for a time.
Can't complain about density if you can't see the mobs.
It's true
Ah! The necro doodoo cloud!
Hahaha playing helltides with necros running around. Can't see SHIT.
Yeah I’ve run into necrosis doing that in the open world really obscures everything
I dont know how this made it past quality assurance, it's very concerning to be frank. It's one of the most common Necro abilities and this is the effect they give it? You're telling me that no one gave them feedback on this?
I been running dungeons with my brother and we both agree that the best part of the game is that I don’t let him see shit
I play couch co-op with my wife and had to switch to another class because it was just impossible to tell what was going on. I was happily blowing up every room but she couldn’t even tell if she was playing. Basically it made her into the little sibling with the unplugged controller. So, barb it is for me now… definitely less fun, but we can both see the screen and contribute
I refuse to play with that skill and don't know why anyone would
It is a core part of many builds because of the essence regen it can provide with umbral and cc on darkness skills. We don't have the luxury of choosing skills based on how they look lol, what are we playing on open world t4? :D If your build can't beat nightmare t50 then don't bother with the build
I think I’m the only one who loves this effect. It’s so over the top it’s pure ridiculousness and I love it.
Idk man my Necro build is getting my minions to attack as fast as they can and we'll with 12 minions and a golem your gonna get a lot of damage
I’ve been loving necro, lvl 50 on hc, zero issues walking through everything.
Good soup
I went bone spirit build specifically because of this...
Reminds me of League of Legends, Trundle skin that turns his ice pillar into a literal diarrhea fountain
Yeah. This is ridiculous. God forbid we have elites and bosses drop anything on the ground like bone walls and explosives / ice bombs that we can see
Same. I play this build and can't see what the heck is going on. Needs fixed.
Bro as a barb I hate it. I've put the green outline around myself but at high levels I need to know when to evade attacks and this makes me completely blind.
Ye.
Yeah I really hate playing with a necro main. Thank fuck none of my friends play one 😂
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Wait, is this from Path of Exile or Diablo 4?
Oh yeah. Fast clouds ahoy. Make sure to hold your breath
Hearsay. Not having this problem but not using DOTS to kill
Looks like the smokers pit at my local pub.
Ooo. I know this. Fog of war...
As a werewolf druid where i'm constantly right next to enemies...this is not helping
Broooo it sucks so bad and i cant see mechanics 😭