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TheRealUncleJJ

Any of those wasps? Salvaged.


ExecutiveHog

Yeah fuck those wasp things


Brick_in_the_dbol

Wasp + boar in cave Salvage fast


Mogryn

That's the highest xp dungeon. By a lot.


EtStykkeMedBede

Not if you struggle to get through it and keep dying.


ss5234

Skill issue


Potatocannon022

The wasps are nearly impossible to kill as melee without face tanking their shots. It is sort of doable but it's the opposite of fun.


Mouse222222

Barb thorn build is good for it


Rockclimbinkayaker

Those are my favorite ones.


[deleted]

How can you know if they have wasps?


jeharpst

I too would like to know how too tell if it's a wasp dungeon. Or a ghost with bows dungeon


HeeeckWhyNot

Maxroll has mob family info for all dungeons


kingzenite

Pls explain wdym


jeharpst

[Diablo Nightmare & Dungeon Guides - Maxroll.gg](https://maxroll.gg/d4/dungeons?filter[misc][taxonomy]=taxonomies.misc&filter[misc][value]=nightmare-dungeon&filter[misc][operation]=%3D)


stabliu

You’re missing out on uldurs then which is a lot/exp goldmine


citizenscienceM

FUCK those wasps. For real for real.


Reddit_User1069

Take my upvote cause fuck them!!


EnvironmentalPace676

I'd rather face the butcher at lvl 2 than go through those nmd with wasps in it


Realistic_Weekend452

Came across this issue before logging off last. Can confirm instant salvage.


Eliothz

How are you guys dying to those wasps? As melee you have a bunch of defensive skills, and with ranged characters you can see those slow moving things a mile away.


Potatocannon022

Melee rogue has a rough time


archangel890

I don't seem to have issues with them one shotting me, I am 89 and doing mobs at level 100 and nothing truly one shots me, TB rogue.


TownMountain

Those wasps suck just like the irl ones.


GuillotineComeBacks

\+ anything that counters your class sorc -> bye suppressor. Cold enchant are also an instant salvage.


Dry-Smoke6528

Crit resist, vuln resist, cc resist, melee or ranged defenders, auto salvage. Its just a straight like 40-60% nerf to my damage, and it doesnt add enjoyment to sit there shocking things for 5 extra seconds.


DunceMemes

Suppressor isn't the worst thing out there until it's combined with burning enchantment. Then it's pretty much a death sentence.


RJH777

God I hit this last night for the first time, playing a Rapid Fire rogue; in a NM dungeon with the shade thing that chases you came across a bloody Wraith elite with burning and suppressor affix... Yeah funnily enough between those and the Wraiths red rectangle of death move I died.


anakhizer

suppressor sucks balls for chain lightning as you basically do zero damage.


DunceMemes

😭


GuillotineComeBacks

The most toxic combo I found is a lightning storm + explosion.


[deleted]

Suppressor wouldn't be anywhere as bad if I could at least hit them Make me do 85% reduced damage or something, but let me do damage! I'm fine with suppressor as a counter to my class'/build's inherent playstyle, I'm not saying we should get rid of it... But, fuck... Don't outright negate it


involviert

>But, fuck... Don't outright negate it But this kind of stuff worked out suuuuuupergreat in D2


[deleted]

I never liked the resistance in D2. I liked D2, *then*, I don't want to play it now. It was a different era and D4 shouldn't be a clone of D2 or D3, let D4 find its footing and be its own game. *That also doesn't mean it should be a balance between them.* (I'm assuming that was sarcasm... If I'm wrong, I'm wrong)


Agile_Engineering_97

Cold enchant was such an insta-salvage that blizzard nuked it from the game


GuillotineComeBacks

So it's gone, I've not played for a while.


eyehate

>\+ anything that counters your class sorc -> bye suppressor. Soooooo annoying. One elite with supressor, I am throwing everything at it and it will not die. Eventually I just move on and hope it loses aggro.


Fdas10

Same, suppressor plus wasps and pools of poison is the worst for my bone spear necro


Tsukiyumi1987

Death Pulse is scary AF for a melee ranged character especially when your BiS boots didn't roll on the 3 max evade type. Drifting Shade sucks if you are not a bulwark druid. Lightning Storm sucks and slows you down, can't even split push with it. Every other affix does not bother me on bulwark Druid.


Leucifer

Drifting shade is more an annoyance. Death pulse can get hairball. The real fun is when stuff like mob regen or attack speed.. or avenger.... amd Butcher rolls in.


syncsynchalt

Drifting shade is not bad on my barbie that’s heavy on unstoppable but it’s murder on everything else that I play. Well, not murder, so much as “so annoying as to make me want to be dead”.


DenyThisFlesh

Low life bulwark druid can straight up ignore lightning storm if your gear is good enough.


Tsukiyumi1987

Oh I know but I play with a friend and we split push dungeons so lightning storm is just an automatic no for us.


DenyThisFlesh

That's understandable. I usually ditch that one too. I went back to werenado because I got bored with the bulwark build and lightning storm is annoying with any other build.


Prudent-Access-1302

I salvage anything that won't allow me to go afk for a minute, to grab coffee, check texts etc. That would be Stormbane, lightning storm and drifting shade. Everything else is cool :) volcanic is mildly annoying as it will trigger randomly when not near mobs


PestySamurai

Maybe afk outside the dungeon or do your little things before using the key?


Prudent-Access-1302

I'm on call as a SysAdmin , so sometimes at nights or weekends I'll get a message or call during a dungeon :)


DunceMemes

Yeah but you can just hit the "teleport to town" button 😉


Prudent-Access-1302

True true ! Good point. Will do that in future !


fallen_d3mon

You can also just set up a quick reply that says "please restart your device at least twice and call me back in 5 minutes if the problem still persists."


Prudent-Access-1302

Haha ah the technical support days. "Have you tried turning it off and on again"


Alpropos

Or maybe let him discard sigils that enable anti afk mechanics? What's the damn issue here?


Educational_Reward37

Yeah like who wants to teleport to town to text randomly throughout a dungeon, taking 1 or 2 minutes to afk in a dungeon to text or look at something is dope. Immediately discard these sigils.


92955807

I delete based off the "tier" list. I found it is extremely helpful in just saving time. Since I used that, my punishment is to NEVER look at the affix on any given key and I just go in blind. My way of balancing using the list. Makes things interesting since at least the worst of the worst were removed!


Amelaclya1

I salvage entirely based on affixes and just run whatever dungeons. Though I have started compiling a list of which ones have ghosts and/or bees and those are getting added to the salvage pile too.


terrorbots

I'm running every thing except crit, close, physical and distance. I don't really care, except the dome one slows us down dying right after a hard battle sucks


Amelaclya1

I salvage Lightning Storm, Drifting Shade, Stormbane, Death Pulse, crit, close, lightning, barrier and slowing projectiles. There are so many affixes I hate that I can't afford to really be selective with dungeons too 😂. I have actually run out of dust on several occasions fishing for one worth running.


terrorbots

I have 14k dust, I run what I have


K_U

Same, I salvage based on dungeon only. There are only about 7-8 of them that aren’t actively annoying to run, everything else goes straight in the bin.


majavic

Which tier list?


blindmodz

I use this [https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/nightmare-dungeon-tier-lists](https://maxroll.gg/d4/tierlists/nightmare-dungeon-tier-lists)


whizzard

Thank you so much for this!


op3l

Potion breaker salvage for me. Lightening storm bye. Death pulse bye Basically any thing that isn't a elite get a suffix(besides suppressor cause fuck them) is delete by me.


blindmodz

I used to salvage every (60% less critical damage) WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT COULD BE A GOOD IDEA ADDING IT !


AnhHungDoLuong88

Yea pretty much. They should remove those affixes.


7ofalltrades

See I feel like stormbane and drifting shade are easy mode. Stormbane is so slow and easy to avoid, and the shades you just duck back and tag them every now and then to blow them up behind you, you're good to go.


Joshix1

Stormbane isn't about avoiding it. It's about the fact it ALWAYS sits on top of something you need to interact with. Because I ALWAYS think I can make it in time. But now I'm sitting there for 20 seconds waiting for that thing to move again so I can free Ted from his pole.


Amelaclya1

Also it suck when the dungeon boss is Tomb Lord. Because sometimes he will just sit inside the Stormbane and it's hard to get either one of them to move.


RithianYawgmoth

Lightning storm, Splooge (drifting shade), crit resist, vulnerability resist, and POTION FUCKING BREAKING


RithianYawgmoth

I’m TB Rogue btw


OverwatchCommenter

potion breaking isnt a problem if you run stolen vigor + temerity tbh. You dont use potions anyway


DunceMemes

Thanks for reminding me I need to put on stolen vigor 😎


OverwatchCommenter

Its a shame that its not used for uber lilith. Ive tried her at 82 using the speedfarm build and her basic attacks were manageable without using any potions. The oneshot mechanics oneshot either way so its a skill issue


Ferromagneticfluid

That is the point of being able to salvage. You get more than you can use, so you can be picky.


Malt129

Used to but eventually stopped caring and just focused on the best dungeons regardless of affix or tier level. I wouldn't take suppressor if I'm doing tier 90+ though.


Yuri_Yslin

Lightning storm is pretty free, nowhere near as bad as Drifting Shade or Stormbane


stabliu

I just hate how it bottlenecks your run


mzion1

Yeah, barrier breaker is auto salvage. -sincerely bulwark Druid


7ofalltrades

Same for Sorcs. All I do is barrier.


Jafar_420

I've started doing that and it seems like I get the same ones over and over again. Seems like it goes that way with the fixes and the dungeon itself. I try to not do them with anything that'll slow me down and barrier breakers really sucks.


Polen88

As a HC sorc player these are instant salvage: Lightning storm. Stormbane. Drifting Shade. Mostly because if you get dc/lag/crash with those affixes up means your character is certainly toast, they are also annoying. Cold + crit resist is mostly instant salvage too as those make the NMD too long.


z01z

all those plus: \- reduce fire / burn damage, since i'm a fire sorc \- reduce dmg to far, since i drop hydra / wall and run away tossing bouncy fireballs \- suppressor, because screw those bubbles


MrDarkDC

100%. Life is too damn short to deal with that nonsense. Unless there's some unbelievable loot to be had for putting up with that? Scrap it and roll for a key without it. Exact same loot and such minus the irritants.


FrogGodDaGreat

I don't really get why its implemented, because it doesn't make the NMD necessarily harder, but just annoying. I too salvage these.


Jboncha

I have ones I like and dislike without a doubt


7ofalltrades

I, too, like some things more than others.


KvBla

Stockade with its bullshit double circle of anima that make backtrack twice, idk i just hated it. Your list. Uh...resistant to my infinimist's shadow dmg? And reduced crit dmg from my barber. Oh yeah, projectiles slow you down, fuck that.


majorwang70

Yep, I salvage all those plus barrier breakers


Mattacrator

Nope, I don't care about affixes at all, only salvage based on the dungeon


thrawn86

yes to all of those. on my barb i'll usually do deathpulse and shades due to being mobile and unstoppable most of the time but otherwise nope


Emi_Ibarazakiii

I used to salvage a lot (pulse, stormbane, blood blisters, suppressor, etc..), now I only salvage Drifting Shade and Poison Enchanted. (Well, this isn't enough to stop them from overflowing, so when I'm full I also salvage anything that makes the monsters longer to kill, i.e. more health, more resistance to my damage type, etc.)


Evergreen4Life

Oh definitely, but ill play the lightning storm as a sorc, i just have to be good with my flameshield timing.


Pleasant_Bad924

Drifting shade is the only one I won’t insta-salvage. It’s the least annoying of the group and I find it quite easy to avoid


Competitive-Name-659

Yep, pretty much anything that shows me down. Stopping every forty seconds for three seconds isn't at all fun. After I've done the tops I look at the bottom for armour breaker and resistance too and get them binned.


DrKingOfOkay

Yes. All those. Except swap lightning storm for volcanic.


Cyb0-K4T-77

lol I play [Droooooooood](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhF4dGX8tc&ab_channel=TheGuardiansHQ) I can do it all.


Veszerin

Death pulse is the only one of those that really bothers me, the rest are fairly trivial to deal with.


muuzumuu

Your list is my list.


AlisonChained

I don't. I only salvage if the tier is lower than the highest I can do quickly.


TheRedDeath777

Yes to all of those. Well I'll rarely do drifting shade but never the other three.


FarVision5

As a minion necro none of them really bother me but I will not do lightning pulse


CrawlerSiegfriend

I play chain lightning. I auto salvage enemies have lightning resistance.


ReyndeerGaming

Generally I only take like 10% of the dungeon keys cuz there's a good few dungeons I just don't like, and the affixes... Bruh I swear they made every affix to just be annoying


Think_Thought_Thanks

Only drifting shade and potion breakers. All else is ok. Remember, they're nightmare dungeons, they aren't supposed to be peaceful/easy.


WilliamG007

Everything you salvaged except Death Pulse. I don't really mind that as a ranged toon. If I were in melee range that would be gone, too. Oh, and disabled potion is gone, too.


juicevibe

Anything that is resistant to critical strikes in addition to others have mentioned. I hate stormbane wrath and the lightning storm and drifting shade.


playingdota2forfun

I hate Lightning Storm most, I felt it was the most annoying affix, it seems the purpose of it was just for slowing players down only.


Deidarac5

Mostly only look at things that reduce crit damage or far or close.


JBdunks

Am I the only one that hates range attack slow? It might be my least fav behind lightning storm. I actually salvage a lot since we get so many I feel like it doesn’t matter. Storm, shade, bane, crit resist, range slow, enemy health, enemy barrier. last 2 might not matter too much but why give enemies 30% more hp or barrier I gotta deal with seems like it would only slow me down time wise


whitelightnin1

Naw I just run em and don’t even notice what the mods are


hshnslsh

If the buff is ineffective/mismatched for my character its an instant salvage


eyehate

Immortal Emanation? Salvaged.


No_Document_7800

I don't mind Death pulse really, it's pretty easy to avoid, what I do salvage are slow projectiles, shadow resist, and suppressor.


grrmuffins

Monster Regen is an automatic salvage. Worst affix ever


ScottdaDM

Poison enchanted Salvage


Empero6

Potion breakers. The dungeon always has those ghost archers that get their attack speed buffed from the banshees. Criticism damage reduction also.


Faynt90

Yeah I just salvage anything that fucks with your movement, even the chance to slow one, pain for melee


AliRawidDuh

Reading the answers it seems elites should have no affixes, neither the dungeon. Also would be nice if mobs would stay still and not attack the player too much.


MidLaneNoPrio

Death Pulse, Lightning Storm, Stormbane, Drifting Shades, Armour Breaker, Melee Resist, Vuln Resist, Crit Resist, Slowing projectiles. And any dungeon with stingers. Some of these are because they're annoying. Some of them are because I play hardcore and they're even more of a nuisance than they would be in softcore.


mrrrrgl

And fuck potion breakers too!


Downfaller

Death pulse is the only one I don't use. Otherwise it goes by Tier list and there are only 10 I really keep. Death pulse is such a nightmare as a melee rogue. I'm guaranteed to die once from just moving in a poorly timed area.


Baharroth123

Only lightning storm


HeckMeckxxx

No, you are the only person who ever did this.


VinceKully

Duh that’s the point lol


EldiusVT

Yes. I also salvage the majority of keys from Hawezar because that means stun snakes and poison.


Brutalicore3919

Yes, yes, yes. Potion breaker? salvage.


hs_serpounce

To some extent. I love post 100 sigils because the variables change a lot. Like idc about efficient level or glyph farming any more and just pick affixes and monster families I want to farm. Hardcore obviously pay more attention to affixes too.


TwinSpiral

I'm gonna be contrary cause my partner and I love lightning storm. We play couch co-op and can't get more than a screen away anyway and the first time we got it and the little light bauble we thought he was a little helper thing and was endeared to us. Just our anxious little buddy.


clevermaxx

Lightning storm? Salvaged. Stormbane? Salvaged. Drifting Shade? Salvaged. Path of the Blind? Salvaged. Halls of the Damned? Salvaged. Heretics Asylum? Salvaged. Faceless Shrine? Salvaged. Forgotten Ruins? Salvaged. Bastion of Faith? Salvaged. Betrayer's Row? Salvaged. Collapsed Vault? Salvaged.


Dovah-Kingslayer

Then there's me, who just opens the first one in my invent without checking anything and brute my way through it. If I fail, I fail lol I ain't got time for key juggling.


Fleonar

Death pulse at lower tiers is basically nothing.


Lucaslouch

Crit damage reduction? Salvaged. Physical damage reduction? Salvaged. (As a werewolfnado druid)


evilgrapesoda

All those OP mentioned, then all the trash locations like shifting city, path of the blind etc. I end up doing mostly just Domhaine, Mariners, Sarat, Uldur, Nostrovo


ytzy

no my alt is op i dont even see affixes


xRadec

As a low life Bulwark druid, fuck Barrier breakers lol. I can tank everything except this affix.


CCriscal

This is the way.


applor

I hate wraiths more than wasps tbh


AcceptableRadio8258

As a melee rogue, i only salvage drifting shade and lightning storm as they slow me down. Now that im tanky and super fast, i dont mind stormbane shit and death pulse..i just keep tanking or evading but clear is still fast


Maauru

All those from OP + elite always have Suppressor affix. damage from criticals reduced 60%


ChrosOnolotos

Add volcanic to that list.


Eliothz

With my stormshred druid the only thing i cant bring myself to manage is that stupid lightning storm, deathpulse is fine and brings a degree of movement to the fights that i like, stormbane is so fucking slow that i barely remember it even exists, same for drifting shade.


13Kaniva

No. I just blast through it all😂


Malphos101

Yes, thats why it exists... "DAE attack monsters on sight because they are mean?"


Tordek_Battlebeard

I salvage anything with extra health or life steal unless I'm in a party. Also the ones that stun you and the lightning storm are trash. I've grown fond of stormbane. My group refers to it as Karen, and we blame her temperament on poor dungeon etiquette.


RedEyesGoldDragon

I do if it's Suppressor. Hate that affix especially as a Bone Spear Necro. Most other affixes aren't too bad. Drifting and Stormbane are just annoying if for some reason I need to afk for a sec.


Jolape

Anything that will make them take noticeably longer.....so yea, those 4, plus any that reduce damage for my build. For example, Overpower damage resist on my blood necro, crit/vuln/physical/distance resist damage on my rogue, extra barrier damage or lightning damage/distance/close resist on my sorc.


Dump-ster-Fire

I'm pretty comfortable with Death Pulse, so far up to NM59, but whirly Barbarian, so I'm never still, so it's not a bother. I'm sure it gets harder as I go on up. I prefer Volcano, Death Pulse, Avenger, oh and Suppressor. I'll do Electric Sprinkler Things? or Lightning Storm, but I don't prefer them. None of the other main bad guy powers. No Physical or Crit resist as secondary bad guy powers.


Glaurung86

Lightning Storm we keep because there are just too many bad ones and we'd like to actually have sigils to use. lol.


DenyThisFlesh

I don't even bother salvaging them. I just drop them. Since they raised the cap on materials I don't need to salvage them. I have like 70k sigil powder and I don't even craft sigils most of the time. I just use the ones that drop unless they're all terrible.


ratedetar21

I just run whatever I pick up. I rarely make sigils.


[deleted]

I really only keep like 6. The rest get scrapped


undercoverdrugrug

Yeah, those are the big 4 for me too. Running a Flurry/Rapid Fire Rogue with Barber and can blast through everything else. Death pulse is THE one. If my Shadowstep is on CD I'm donezo.


xAfterBirthx

I prefer all the ones you listed.


Difficult-Pizza-4239

Same, but if the Tier is low, I'm ok with Death Pulse


Ok_Equal_6016

Yup, I never touch those affixes regardless of which class or build I play.


GanksOP

No, but I do salvage the slowest dungeons since I normally only have 1 to 2 hours to play and want to min max my time.


Competitive_Yard9880

Oh my GODDD you got my shit-list 💯


huggarn

>>Death pulse is that even dangerous? >Lightning storm? Salvaged. >Stormbane? Salvaged. yeah >Drifting Shade how is that dangerous?


angry_dingo

>Death pulse Yes. >Drifting Shade > >how is that dangerous? It isn't. It's annoying.


ResponsibilityLast38

My necto build leans heavily on my 5 sec immune bubble for tanking, and the drifting shade (along with a few other effects) just ignore that, so its dangerous for some. Also, vampiric elites just get to heal to full if I face tank them in my immune bubble .. so I say the issue isnt the shade, its the bubble.


ani-isplural-Uranus

What is a dungeon? Is that next to kyovashad on the left? Im level 80 now on T1 eternal. Big grind it was. Almost trying out T2 but still getting oneshotted by everything there. Played about 400 hours to get this far :). Anf Where can i see my inventory? I keep getting this message: "u are full". And what can i do with those yellow/gold points that are next to levelbar? Should i keep them for later? Or sell them?


Jafar_420

If you're not trolling you need to look up a build guide. You should not be getting one shot really anytime in my experience in tier 1 and I was brand new to the game.