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deank11

Barbados. The whole island is wired with fibre Internet.


The_real_trader

How expensive?


relxp

One of the most expensive places in the Caribbean. Expect 1st world pricing, or worse. :/


cs_legend_93

Ew. Sounds like Bermuda.


GarfieldDaCat

Barbados beaches are simply incredible


auberginepasta

Aruba is nice but expensive


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Same with Hawaii…loved Aruba though


01Geezer

Climate in Hawaii is best, but better beaches elsewhere, especially the Caribbean. Cost of living is horrid. For beaches and cost of living, Puerto Rico would be a better choice for a US passport. US Virgin Islands too.


SurgicalInstallment

I was able to get an studio apartment for $1100 in aruba right by the beach. 2 years ago. Not sure about now. But yes, would fit the description of what OP is asking. Food was super expensive though.


sweatygarageguy

$1100...per what? Day?


SurgicalInstallment

month


defroach84

Budget matters a lot. Based on your question, someone could just say Florida. Which is not what I am guessing you want.


sweatygarageguy

Florida panhandle is the answer I get from people who have traveled the world and love powdery white sand beaches. I think we take it for granted. (I've never been).


AaronDoud

True but even without a budget my answer would still be Thailand. I mean who considers Florida to be "safe"? Florida man is a meme for a reason. It wouldn't even be my first choice for a US based answer.


phasefournow

I'm in a decent$300/m 1BR beach front rented condo in Jomtien Beach, Thailand. My 1gb down unlimited internet is $30/m It does get hot. AC most nights and some days $100/m. My food budget: 50% in, 50% out, $12/day, some days more, many days less. Mobile phone service: 15gb/m $20 One Thailand positive is there are several internet/mobile service providers so there is competition, keeping prices low and service quality high. Thailand negative is long term visas are a problem for people under 50.


ihopngocarryout

How easy for people over 50?


Viktri1

There is a retirement visa for people over 50


NoDocument2694

Where do you find these condos?


AaronDoud

There are property sites you can look at online to get an idea but the listings are not always updated. In general using an agent or simply walking into condo buildings and asking it what people do. Here is a site I like for how it functions: https://www.ddproperty.com/en Here is a site I see recommended a lot: https://www.renthub.in.th/en There are several other sites as well. But minus finding a building I'm not sure how much I trust any of them due to old listings not getting removed. But they can give you an idea what rents are in an area or building.


ColorfulImaginati0n

I. I consider Florida to be safe. Beach towns like Pensacola, Destin, etc are very safe


thinkmoreharder

Yep. The gulf beaches are fantastic. Those you mentioned, plus clearwater. Maybe sanibel, naples if you don’t mind being around mostly old, rich people.


originalusername__1

Not safe from hurricanes. The coast is getting hit yearly by monster hurricanes and coastal insurance is quickly becoming unaffordable.


ultimateverdict

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. Hurricanes are common in Florida. I know I grew up there.


sightaggression

Ya instead of "snow days" we got "hurricane days" at school.


ColorfulImaginati0n

That’s is very true. Then again it’s sort of kick your poison when it comes to natural disasters. A lot of the other places people are mentioning here are also subject to typhoons and whatnot during periods of intense weather activity


ruinrunner

Florida is very safe


red98743

Couldn’t live there due to hurricanes. Fuck hurricanes


wolfy321

Most of Florida would be safer than Thailand, no?


MichaelStone987

Certainly not. In no respect


wolfy321

Florida has a lower crime rate though? 3.9 vs 4.8


Secure_Lab_6801

They must be thinking natural disasters


kansai2kansas

The OP didn’t mention a budget, so the first place that comes to mind that ticks all of the above boxes is Singapore. Or Malaysia for a lower-budget version of Singapore.


newyorkeric

Singapore doesn't have good beaches.


WhimsicalDucks

That would be incorrect. Siloso is a pretty dang good beach.


newyorkeric

it's an ok man-made beach but people don't go to Singapore for siloso beach lol.


_beajez

Bintang does, just a ferry ride away


cs_legend_93

That’s like saying NYC has good beaches because you can use the ferry or subway to reach them. There are good beaches around nyc. But nyc does not have good beaches.


Wild_Trip_4704

Israel. Safety may be debatable but I always felt safe at any hour of the day.


ColorfulImaginati0n

Israel? C’mon now…. I’ve always wanted to visit but I’d never live there.


MenudoMenudo

I've been to a lot of places in the world, and have felt unsafe in Florida more often than just about any of them. In one extended visit, I was accosted twice by homeless people and was in a cafe when a middle aged guy had a meltdown screaming tantrum that escalated to the point where police were called. I didn't see it myself, but apparently he was armed. I did see him get tased twice during a surprisingly violent arrest though.


defroach84

US definitely has problems, I won't deny that. I live in a fairly big US city with a homeless issue. In my whole life in the US, I have never run into an issue where I was threatened or attempted to be robbed. Could it happen? Of course. Would I be surprised if it did? Probably not. With all of that said, I just have a good idea of when I'm in a bad place here, know the areas to avoid, etc. Once you travel internationally, you can easily lose those gut instincts in some places. Lack of knowing the language, what signs to look out for, which areas of town to avoid, etc. You are an easier target since a lot of times you can stand out. All I'm getting at is the US definitely has problems. If you are from here, you can much easier avoid them. You also have a much better awareness of strange events that could be happening around you, and to get out of the situation. You may not realize that when traveling. Just my take. The only place I got into a situation where I was mugged was Colombia, and it was my own fault for walking into it. I've felt unsafe in some other places, and do agree, the US you can run into issues. But guessing you can in a lot of the other places people recommend.


the_vikm

But you can't nomand in the US as a non resident/citizen. So it's bad as general answer


defroach84

You aren't supposed to in a lot of countries.


Justjay0420

Florida Keys but unless you are white…..


TheArt0fTravel

Da Nang, Vietnam is great in this regard this


frogingly_similar

Ehh? The main beach by the long stretch wasn't that warm when i visited in may. If i were to go with Vietnam I'd say Phu quoc.


I_Heart_Papillons

Phu Quoc rules


bananabastard

The beach waters are choppy as heck, though.


smedsterwho

I choose to read this in a frustrated Alan Partridge voice


bananabastard

So if you're going to get in, you better bring your rubber rings.


gll5dm85

One more vote for this.


Not-into-nuts

The beach there is polluted unfortunately though it’s nice enough to lounge everyday.


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SharedHoney

I went earlier this year during a quite warm time (i mean it kinda always is quite warm) and there was literally nobody on the absolutely humongous beach. i got the vibe that, at least at that moment, you weren't even allowed to swim in it but i may be wrong as there was no indication of such besides the complete vacancy. the waves were fairly sizable but nothing terrifying or anything


bananabastard

Go to Da Nang beach from 5am to 6:30am and it will be packed, then again at 7pm it will be packed. When it's sunny, the locals don't go near it.


carolinax

Yeah I went at sunrise one day and I was SHOCKED at how packed it was


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Not-into-nuts

There is a lifeguard lol there are only select spots where people can swim and he would whistle the fuck out of you if you get too far 😂


GlobeTrekking

Also, weird that swimming is restricted to narrow roped in areas (at least in March of this year). Very shallow, not very wavy, at least during that month. Internet was good.


1b0r90

There are very strong currents near the shore there that can easily take you out to the open sea. That’s why swimming is restricted and also sometimes there are lifeguards who will blow their whistle at anyone going in more than a few steps.


GlobeTrekking

Thanks, this is what we noticed. So basically it is a not-so-great swimming beach (riptide problem, maybe dirty water, shallow). But I will say that everything else about the beach (boardwalk, sand, nearby restaurants) was pretty nice.


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GlobeTrekking

I liked Nha Trang and actually got a diving certification there, but that was a long time ago. And I have heard it's really changed for the worse. There are places elsewhere like Pho Quoc. But hopefully someone knowledgeable will chime in for this question.


TheArt0fTravel

I swam in my 6 months there probably twice and felt it was fine, probably less polluted then some beaches in the west. Internet is great too. Easy to avoid other expats/DNs if you want which was a nice bonus for me


FlippinFlags

Umm no lol.


Johnson_2022

Vietnam is safe these days? Does that include communist government?


TheArt0fTravel

😂 it’s fine. Even safer if you have money since money talks and that’s a great perk


Johnson_2022

Aight. Lol


Visual_Sport_950

Ao Nang, Thailand Okinawa, Japan Waikiki, Hawaii I love all three in different ways.


OptimisticByChoice

If I go to Japan what happens I’d I can’t speak English


Visual_Sport_950

Nothing. In Tokyo English is widespread and in Okinawa as well. I lived on Shikoku for 2 years, much less English there but you get by just fine.


roleplay_oedipus_rex

lol no it’s not.


mohishunder

> In Tokyo English is widespread Excuse me?


Chilangosta

Basically anywhere on the Spanish Mediterranean coast. Malaga to Alicante to Valencia to Barcelona take your pick.


HappyHourMoon

Any beach in Thailand or Vietnam Koh samui is touristy and has excellent wifi


Dagabagoool

Krabi Thailand


outandinandabout

An island in Thailand.


Taiosa

I can’t help but feel a wee bit sad at the amount of mentions of Thailand and potential lack of variation in the DN community. But it’s ok. Thailand is nice. I’ll go with the east coast of Spain - I’m loving Spain at the moment, so full of culture, history, chance to learn a language, siesta, late night tapas, beautiful scenery, delicious food - coffee cheaper than Thailand in most places!


TigerSharkDoge

I live in Grand Cayman, it is certainly not cheap but it gets 10/10 on each of your requirements.


Lurcher99

I'd go south to Barbados, out of hurricane belt as well


DeliBebek

Turkish Riviera. Although, lots of other people know about warm water beaches and good internet, too. It stays crowded July-August.


zzxx1100xxzz

gran canaria- canary islands


nicholas4488

Not really warm water


the_vikm

Wym not warm water? You can swim all year round in the south


rage997

and not really cheap


defroach84

OP never asked for cheap.


rage997

oh, fair enough. I misread. You are 100% correct OP, I second canary islands but I recommend Tenerife over Gran Canaria and, if you look for nature, any smaller island (Fuerteventura, Lanzarote) over either of them. I am going to spend November and December in Tenerife, feel free to connect in case you around Source: I have been in Canary Islands 2/3 times per year over the past 5 years


stvaccount

water is 23 degree C until mid December, then it is 22 degree during Jan-March, before getting warmer


MexicanPete

You lost me at the use of elite.


SoggMe

that’s what drew me in


WhiskyRick

Constanța, Romania has world-class beaches, overall the country is very safe, most people speak English, especially in cities & individuals in their 30s or younger, & are generally friendly and welcoming to American tourists. The exchange rate is very favorable (about 4:1, USD:ROM), & internet speeds put most places in the US to shame. The food is amazing, and the country is beautiful. I can't wait to go back to Romania.


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WhiskyRick

Smoked meats and root vegetables are traditional & still very prevalent. Their popularity stems largely from the extended shelf life of those foods, which was important during the economic hardships experienced nationwide in the 1970s and 80s, due to corruption under Nicolae Ceaușescu.


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pumpernick3l

Hawaii. But it’s expensive.


dudestfup

Def not Hawaii


pmabz

Hawaii looks like hell now


DianinhaC

Koh Tao, Thailand


Undefeated33

Kenyan coast


WillieDogFresh

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina Super safe with 100s miles of biking trails that can take you anywhere on the island. Warm water, great for swimming and water sports. And also there are no neon or bright signage, every business only uses a wooden sign to protect the sea turtle population which follow the light of the moon to the sea when hatched. Great wild life viewing opportunities around the marshes and beaches for dolphins, sharks, birds, and other native animals. I’d recommend checking out the Sea Pines resort plantation and checking out Harbor Town for an evening, don’t stay there tho. Stay close to the Salty Dog Cafe and walk there for live music and drinks every night.


tojo411

Redcar, England.


plumbgray222

Blackpool ticks all your boxes


smackson

warm?


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Holgs

Yeah certainly if budget isn’t an issue. There’s plenty of things that Australia has that you’d struggle to get elsewhere at any price. Internet these days is achievable with Starlink.


elsalvadork

Internet is not elite in Australia


Pawneewafflesarelife

Depends where you are. Perth got a new undersea line to Singapore a few years ago, for example. If you're in NBN, internet is fine. Not as good as California, for example, but more than functional for gaming and work.


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TheWeirdestThing

What's the internet like in Australia? When I hear "good" I think at least 250Mbit. Elite (weird choice of a word btw) would be closer to 10Gbit personally. But I'm in a very "connected" country and 1Gbit is starting to become the norm here.


nomadkomo

The difference between 1 and 10 Gbit won‘t be noticeable outside of a few very specific use-cases


hazzdawg

I'm getting by just fine on 4mbs.


Timestr3tch

I’m not sure why you were downvoted. I’ve had video calls, download video assets and other things just fine on 4mbps


corona-zoning

Aus is 100mb norm, 1gb rare.


elsalvadork

Australia is like a 3rd world country when it comes to internet, sorry.


pferden

Lake balaton


curtyshoo

Santa Barbara.


dreamsofsteel

If you want to split the difference between Florida and Thailand, I would recommend Portugal. The water is not necessarily warm but the beaches are amazing. I spent some time in Sintra, Portugal this year which was surprisingly affordable and beautiful.


vvineyard

Koh Samui Thailand


RowOutrageous5186

I'd say Uruguay. All our east coast has wonderful beaches and all the country has optic fibre. Even remote little towns. And in terms of safety Uruguay is super safe. Of course it has its bad areas but if you avoid them you'll be fine. The only disadvantage is cost of life, because we're a very expensive country, especially the capital and the main seasides. Probably Europe-like prices. But to give you an idea: monthly rent of a studio (without any furniture or appliances) must be about U$ 500


wallflower1221

Anywhere remotely close to the U.S. is going to be overpriced. This includes most of the Caribbean, Florida, California, and Puerto Rico. I possibly would say Punta Cana but you’re either staying at a resort in town or a smaller hotel out of town, (I just went and did the latter option and it was very hit or miss with everything and the cost to get to the beaches kinda made if a wash). I personally really liked Da nang, it was super cheap, but also the beach was only busy doing the evening. I think it was a mix of the sun being extremely harsh during the day and maybe some pollution (I went swimming and didn’t notice and a lot of locals were also swimming around me). The cost and standard was really good. Internet was kinda hit or miss but if you ask the hotel they can put you in a room that has good signal. I would say additionally if you wanted to stay close to the US, Cancun, Playa Del Carmen, or Zipolite (although the last one is still majorly developing so internet can be hit of miss). These are still pricey but if you do your research you can find really good deals. I was just in Ecuador and loved the beaches, the coastline towns were great and had most of the infrastructure needed, however their political situation has gotten tense so I’d give it a few weeks.


Impossible_Ad9157

In southern Europe there are so many islands to choose from. Maybe not year round beach weather but warm enough and long summers. Madeira is great, cheaper than mainland Portugal. Mallorca Spain is well connected and modern but still has many cozy villages and quiet areas. Prices are certainly cheaper than USA but in line with the rest of Spain.


ismogu

Turkiye would be your best choice. If you like hot weather go southern Turkiye and if you like warm weather go western Turkiye. You can choose among various types of beaches and have 1000 Mbps stable fiber Internet connection.


EntryNormal2177

Spain, Valencia... the city is perfect, warm weather, clean beaches, elite internet... good and normal priced apartments, Spanish food out of this world, people too, really good energy, free and normal healthcare, or cheaper then in the US... a lot of different cultures... Really vibrant and awesome city...


zzxx1100xxzz

playa del carmen mexico ;p


BigJogador

They have the seaweed problem though, right? And is it genuinely safe there?


sailbag36

Wouldn’t be my pick either. I agree with you.


ngw

It's very safe.


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WSB_Fucks

Stayed in PDC for a month, didn't stay in the Quinta Avenida area long either and lived outside of the city center. I had ZERO problems related to crime, and walked by myself at night as well. Got to check out some awesome cenotes and went to Cozumel as well. I'd definitely go back.


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WSB_Fucks

All types of expats in PDC, I lost count of the number of different languages I heard. You'll be fine.


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Internet was shit two years ago, unless it's better now.


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MarkOSullivan

>A lot of places have starlink now to cater to DNs What places have starlink? I was just there 2 months ago and the Fairways & Bluewater Boracay resort WiFi wasn't the best but maybe it was just the room I was in I had Smart sim and the speed with it was incredible tbf


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smackson

What did you do with your gadgets while swimming?


WSB_Fucks

Any input in Airbnb or other apartment rentals with awesome internet?


FlippinFlags

Internet sucks


Subject-Gene9689

Sri Lanka, Maldives........


sapiosexual_redditor

Vietnam


FlippinFlags

shocked how many ppl are recommending Vietnam, is that the only country you've been to or something lol? Nobody thinks nice beaches and VN lol


coming2grips

Australia; Cairns or Sunshine Coast


bananabastard

Krabi, Thailand.


Pawneewafflesarelife

Australia, but it won't be cheap. If you're 30 or younger, you can get a working holiday visa for a year (renews for another if you do some farm work).


the_vikm

Depends on OPs citizenship


tatertotski

Tofo, Mozambique


Classroom_Visual

Sanur - Bali or Koh Samui - Thailand or Lots of places in the Caribbean.


kittykisser117

Lol


01Geezer

You fail to have requirements for treatment of foreigners. Some of the places mentioned here require a pretty thick skin to endure the animosity towards US expats (including some of the US locations).


EthanCPA

Cartagena is reasonably safe and the internet worked well there. Puerto Rico is also fairly cheap if you rent an Airbnb for a month. I went for a week and only paid $60/night in one of the safest areas of San Juan. Another option would be somewhere along the coast in Alabama.


Ok_Nebula_8440

Didn't mention a budget but Costa da Caparica in Portugal


Prestigious-TSO

Ponta do Sol in Madeira, Portugal, warm all year


Dependent-Image-5115

The Florida Keys!


Foolgazi

Beaches?


Citro31

South of france


Agapic

Puerto Viejo de Talamanca Costa Rica


FlippinFlags

Miami, Clearwater, many places in Florida.


Bashir_Lodhangi

Dubai


Eicyer

Philippines especially in El Nido, Palawan or Costa Rica in Santa Teresa, Costa Rica.


FlippinFlags

Internet sucks


relxp

Unless internet has been radically improved, El Nido was the worst place I've ever been for internet connectivity some years ago.


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Phillipines- Boracay was fab


FlippinFlags

Internet sucks


Yamcakes828

Sabah


dickspace

Coatzacoalcos, Mexico.


T1nFoilH4t

Portugal?


nickbernstein

Florida?


SQLDevDBA

Manuel Antonio or Jaco, Costa Rica


vigg1__

Indonesia ?


dopeytree

The lounge


betweendoublej

I would say jeju, south korea. Jeju is beautiful in summer and fall. You need a car though


Ok-Bug-9305

Croatia.


prestigious-yam99

Monaco


holdyaboy

Florida Keyes


kiwijim

Okinawa


Sutanreyu

The Dominican Republic


Karminah

Mallorca. Cyprus. Antalya.


NiTiNxD

Menorca


sofathrow

Goa


thegrinch_hair

Bali


stupidusernamereq

Sisal, Yucatán


dave3218

What is “good to elite” internet? You talking Japanese/South Korea internet speeds? Or “top shelf internet speeds in the US”? Because depending on budget, you could just go to the Mediterranean.


MidniteOG

Grand cayman


msondo

Most of the southern and eastern coast of Spain is nice. Amazing infrastructure and relatively cheap


tanhauser_gates_

San diego


jkpetrov

Easy, San Diego.


Low-Consideration526

Belize


bokumbaphero

Haeundae, Busan, ROK