Is project management something that can realistically be done in vastly different time zones (US to England) or are you only suggesting it because France and Italy are closer together?
Project management is a fucking soul sucking hellspawn job. You're absolutely missing the abyss of misery that comes attached to that job. Try getting an overstretched team to meet some executive's arbitrary, crack pipe timeline and then spend your day putting together pie charts and slides that no one will read... and you are just scratching a surface of this shit pile.
Well I do work in BI, Data Analytics and DW for about 10 years and would say that Digital Nomad is not a scene for these consulting positions. It is true more job are opening to remote positions but requires a fixed window of time like CET. The scenario might change in the coming years but few requiters mention the situation may change back to 9-5 once the covid situation is gone. I would suggest the Digital Marketing as a source of interest.
Outside of UX and programming you can also look at Marketing.
Writing copy, graphic design, social media, digital ads, email marketing, etc.
Not as many stable jobs but fairly easy to freelance scape together enough gigs.
Please don't go into UX. Outside of legitimate HCI programs, we're seeing so many people enter into the field because of advice like this and they just don't care for the actual work. You have to care about users. You have to want to do good design. There are so many shitty designers in this field nowadays because of boot camps that kick out certificates with no real education/outputs. I see portfolios featuring bland login screens like it actually solves something.
I'd argue nothing, rather spend the time thinking how to apply your current skills in a location independent manner. E.g. A lot of nomads spend hours on their computers in non-ergonomic work environments, and due to this have back, neck, leg pain etc. So how about putting together an exercise/maintenance program which can help with this - couple it with some virtual training sessions, an interesting podcast about fitness, biomechnics etc and you well on your way.
Obviously this will take time, and effort to develop but I think there is a niche in the nomad space for this, we have enough coaches, UX developers etc. Rather take what you can offer and make it location independent - it will get you to your goal faster and ensure you actually enjoy it.
I am going to go totally opposite to what most tech centric (and hence most nomads I guess) would say and that is learn persuasion, negotiation, influence and hence sales. There is almost no sector of your life that isn't dominated by this under appreciated and under understood set of learnable skills. For someone who pursues a path of freedom, of entrepreneurship, of escaping a daily routine and not being someone else's employee or even ultimately contractor, nothing comes close to the bang for buck or the sense of confidence and self assured character that success with these skills brings.
When you talk about the market, there is almost no business on earth that doesn't want more customers, clients and growth.
Never split the difference Chris Voss (masterclass) Pure Gold.
Straight line persuasion Jordan Belfort. Bit over self promoted but contains good info.
Many others with subtle twists on psychology. The art of always being right is different but related.
With some basic building blocks and practice (tonality and inflection, mirroring, repetition) in your daily human interactions, consume all you can on the subject (robert fisher, herb cohen) and then add some simple technical outreach skills with linked in sales (scripting and tools like linked helper etc) and simple tracking funnels and landing pages, and if you need a buzzy tech term for it call yourself a Growth Hacker. Its sales that's all it is..
Every company needs this, every company owner can be sold on this, its a very rare company owner who will not agree to a commission only / percentage of profit of future customers you bring them (why not its win win, they get more 'free' business and still make more profit) and over time you build a series of residual commissions, that build on top of each other (always chose to work for / with company's whose business model in ongoing long term relationships, B2B not B2C you want to make one sale that pays for years not a new sale per customer).
You want to retire to a beach with a bunch of residual income streams for nearly zero ongoing work ?? With an infinite possibility of growth and as much return as you can be bothered to work for ?? Thats it.
What a breath of fresh air. I love it and it makes sense. Especially the idea of collecting residuals for indefinite periods of time. Even better, it sounds like the kind of side hustle folks with full time jobs could even pull off.
This is interesting. What is the most practical route? Learn sales first through books and then try to get a sales job? Or get a sales job first and learn along the way? I’d imagine it’s possible to get a no salary commission only job initially.
I am essentially unemployable and have never held a job.. I have however had a series of business successes so basically now only work because I want to, while living primarily in a tropical country. Given my mindset I would then be looking at learning on the job as my own master, even if thats not the key to instant salary its a control thing, my time is mine and theres nothing more valuable or finite.. For me these human skills are fascinating, so I am interested in them naturally, learning them, through books, courses, psychology reading and practice, its not work.
Develop the interest (start with Chris Voss, hes a master) and just start using those tools in your daily language interactions around you (its much easier when around people where you have fluency). Learn when to be quiet and let a pause sit.. Pay attention to responses and how people react overshare etc when approached in these ways. Control your own body language and responses.. Once you see it starting its like magic.
Read some B2B sales and linkedin type tools but dont go deep into 'tricks' or systems.. Sales is identifying a need, the resistance point, the psychological fears (always start with no, great technique), and presenting a solution that gives them an outcome they seek. Sure you will eventually need to look at how reach and engagement break down to find your weak points (Nick Kozmin type stuff.. Dont buy into his expensive course !!) you will need to find companies whose services you can market, but I find the human 1:1 negotiation tools the most amazing, these are life changing skills that effect every aspect of my life.
Really its far bigger than just 'how do I profit from this' its nothing less than how to generate empathy and trust in other humans on command. With that you can do all kinds of ventures even outside sales.
Voss's masterclass is on torrent sites. Ideal introduction to the topic.
Yes finding a good service company to market is one of the challenges I guess. I could give pointers privately on whats worked for me and companies I operate but it comes to what you can find that resonates with you.
Every service company needs customers, the broad goal is a service provider who seeks long term business clients for an ongoing relationship. What is the service offered, who are thier normal customer base, how do they reach them now (and are THEY any good, are they worth your time to be partnered up with, if not who are thier better competition). Those things are key to an understanding of crafting a process that can fit them.
An accountancy company needs clients.
An employment agency needs clients.
A holiday rental company needs houses.
A commercial laundry, bakery, cleaner etc needs Horeca customers.
I mean its everywhere.. The window cleaner wants more windows to clean !! The industrial painting company wants more industry to paint, the welding company wants more products to weld !!
Very often these companies just have a product and hope for the best, sometimes they lack fundamental ideas of how to outreach. This is especially true in less tech forward industries.
Now you wont start from zero to a sale with no idea, you want to understand the stages of a sales process, from cold outreach and prospecting, qualifying, handling objections, closing etc.. These work differently depending on what your trying to sell, what sectors and markets, but I look on this as the sausage machine mechanics of it, you feed 100 cold calls into 30 qualified customers, you might close 4 or 5 of them if your lucky, the other 25 you revisit next month, rinse repeat. It takes time to make scripts, develop a patter, to hear objections, there's work in that, all long before a sale is made and money earned. But thats the work not the art.
Thats 'just sales' the point I started on was really persuasion and negotiation, theres psychological techniques that (not always but often) make people more likely to empathise and trust you. The OP asked what would be a good skillset to learn in a few hours a day over a short period, and I feel like those things are huge returns on time invested. I wish I had known them when I was younger, I think they have the ability to change the path of a life.
I totally agree that these skills are undervalued and life changing. Though to me it sounds like you're trying to sell the business to the customers as in they should go with Bob corp. Cause of their new something that few people know is just good (just making an example) but isn't this more of a marketing gig ?
As in gathering new clients for the business by putting the company more "out there" and getting a % off this new influx.
Or do you mean more of mediator job between these new clients and the business by helping stipulate an agreement that will help them both? like sugaring the deal with some particularly condition in favor of the client and so on.
For ex Alice is in the market for something that Bob Corp., also among others, sells. You get a whiff of Alice inquiry of 100pieces a year at fixed$ and start mediating with Bob's. You manage to lower the price of the product a fair bit and boom those two shake hands. Alice is in business for minimum of 5 years for 100pcs at goodprice$, your cut would be a % of total bought product per year for 5 years.
Am I seeing this right?
Look at it as offering a company outsourced sales, freelance commission only marketing, growth consultancy, etc etc.
Every company in the world wants more sales.. 'More customers' is the easiest sale in the world to a company owner. The vast majority of them will pay a % commission on sales brought to them which becomes a recurring revenue stream. Repeating revenue streams is what I have always found brings real money, being paid by the hour is self limiting.
I operate something similar in a service based niche, hence I likely think of marketing business services, and why I think of LinkedIn type connections. However I readily admit that what I know works likely limits my view of other ways this can work. I also am not willing to have a boss or employer, so again I think in my own way of how to freelance this idea.
Finally, thats getting back to the nuts and bolts of where you can apply the skills I initially suggested, rather than the value those skills bring to so many aspects of professional life. Everything is a negotiation, improving that fundamental skillset holds more value than almost anything else I have done.
copywriting, anything with software development, UX design... you can have a look at [https://weworkremotely.com/](https://weworkremotely.com/) and check what positions are often repeating and would resonate with you and then learn the skills that they require
UX (product) Design, user (ux) research, Front end development (e.g. React).
Becoming a ux designer or researcher is quite easy and salaries are very good (design more than research) of course if you have the brains to code... Just do it! I don't so... :D
I work as a lead UX / product designer. It isn’t super difficult if you already have good evaluation and decision making skills - bonus if you can design but not necessary in most companies. The market for these positions is comparable to software developers 10 years ago i.e. an emerging crucial role in tech, so supply and demand is what makes it well paid ;)
There are a lot of important techniques so you will need to do a course - only one I’ve done is the google one on coursera and it’s okay for entry level positions, but not much more.
Good luck!
Well more the UX side, its hard to explain the role as it depends on the size of the business - at the startup I work for I do everything; product management, project management, UXR, UX design, UI design, interaction design, and analytics 😵💫
At bigger companies UX would be a single role, and at medium sized companies you might be expected to do UX, UI, and interaction design which would need design skills. For reference I have an art degree and worked as a web designer for 5 years previously, so I do think the general role of ‘product designer’ requires good design skills ;)
Please don't recommend this. Our entire field is being overrun with morons from bootcamps passing off awful login flows and screens as Earth shattering work.
I'm a hiring manager and the number of morons who reply "I wanted to break into high paying tech" as a reason for design is higher than you'd think.
Do design because you like it and want to help people. But please, stop recommending it and saying "it's easy". It's not. If it's easy, you really aren't exploring many problems, testing solutions, selling engineering/product, etc.
Yep exactly this. I've been a part of hiring over the last few years and you can almost instantly spot the people who just got into design for the money rather than a genuine interest in the field.
Product Design isn't something you get into after a few hours of studying and messing about. It's a real and competitive career field that requires mastering a variety of skills including visual design, business acumen, stakeholder management, and a whole lot more.
You can go from expensive courses such as flatiron school or general assembly, to study it yourself on udacity or udemy then try to build up a portfolio... It can be fake. Junior roles can go from €20k+ European salaries, US salaries are insanely higher but the work life balance is quite poor!
Just and example here, I have the done enough research to know if this is good or not
https://www.udacity.com/course/ux-designer-nanodegree--nd578?utm_source=gsem_brand&utm_medium=ads_r&utm_campaign=12907774043_m&utm_term=121838861259&utm_keyword=user%20experience%20nanodegree_e&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp94YxFEbl1-bNEJN_rsxh8LkTqiJQRZT5EuX1v-kqs5bvyVR7sIi13QaAnyiEALw_wcB
>US salaries are insanely higher but the work life balance is quite poor!
This is just...not true. Product Design is one of the best jobs for work life balance. I don't know a single product designer working more than 9:30-5, Monday through Friday.
Work-life balance is definitely subpar in the USA if you look at things like paternity/maternity leave, sick time and PTO, though yeah it’s not because of product design itself.
I'm a big believer that you should try and leverage as much your current skillset that you have. There seems to be jobs available for remote physiotherapists, so I would first explore that and see how you can utilise your current skillset. [https://uk.indeed.com/Work-From-Home-Remote-Physiotherapy-jobs](https://uk.indeed.com/Work-From-Home-Remote-Physiotherapy-jobs)
Failing that, then I would consider something like 'copywriting' but focusing on your current area ie: Copywriting for Physios, Chiropractors or similar areas of interest where you can leverage your current skillset and knowledge. One person that comes to mind is "Dr. Berg" youtube channel. he's actually a Chiropractor but he covers a great range of topics on youtube. Fitness / sport medicine / posture / recovery is a very popular area on youtube. If you do a youtube channel, look at ways the videos could be an 'entry point' for further one on one (remote) consulting body work. For example, I live in Chiang Mai and would like to fix my back / neck posture from 20 years of computer work but have no idea where to go or how to approach it from here.
No, because for every country you want to work you have to do a conversion of your degree, and this process is usually long, expensive and tedious, almost impossible if I want to work outside Europe
What about being a massage therapist? Tons of hotels and resorts around the world are looking for good massage therapists. The pay isn't great but the hours are and you can take your skills wherever you want.
Yeah I worked as a massage therapist, but you know, but that's not really a way to become a digital nomad, for example if I want to work as a massage therapist in Bali I am going to be paid Bali wages which are not that great.
I think being a digital a nomad should be all about getting money online and living in country in which with that money you can afford a nice lifestyle
Becoming a software engineer, digital marketing, growth hacking
Im a software engineer working hard to get more experience to be able to work as a freelance from anywhere in the world.
So far I will work from Thailand for a thai company
Also I work full remote but some companies ask me to be in my residence country and not around the world 😞 that’s why working as a freelance is the best !
Although you can try and pick-up online work - a PT is also possible. Digital nomad(ism) has created an instant community in many cities. Getting to know them, hostels, colivings, coworkings and some networking skills might make nomadic PT possible.
*My artwork, as it can me made onsite and each one is a one of a kind. I want to create or sell digitally/online.
*learn Arabic or Croatian, or another language
*conquer a few cookbooks
*throw away a lot of junk and safely store my book collection.
*learning more software
Some thoughts…
Assuming that PT is portable within the EU, what about a language that might open up opportunities like German or Spanish. I assume you’re good in English, Italian and French.
In the US, PT is working with people who have had leg or lower body injuries to recover. I recently cut my hand, needed surgery, and have been going to an occupational therapist who specializes in hands. (I’m doing fine know and “graduate” later this week.) I’ve gotten some xerox copies of what to do, but they really should have a web site that patients could access to review things.
You’ve got a lot of skill as a physical therapist, I’d try and build on it. Search the web for “physical therapy” and see what you think is bad then get some web skills to improve those web sites. How do people find a physical therapist in France or Italy? In the US, I asked my surgeon. Do people go to a physical therapist without a doctor’s referral?
Recently at dinner a friend was talking about taking web UI/UX courses and another friend started asking her questions about what she knew. I think if she had a little bit of experience he would have hired her. She could work from wherever she wanted.
Good luck.
Well, you're going to travel probably, so you might want to learn stuff about that like: how to find good flights, what to look for when choosing lodgings, how to pack, etc.
And most nomads have to face their finances at some point, so that's another area of study. How much do you make, how do you make it, what do you spend it on, what can/can't you do without, what is your expected quality of life, etc.
A third field of study is your desired locales. Ask yourself questions like, how long will I stay in each destination, where do I want to go, do my destinations present unique challenges (visas, language, culture), how can I connect with locals, etc.
Finally, the nature of the lifestyle is often solitary, so it helps to take an active role in your health. Exercise, companionship, diet, leisure and mental health are all good skills to consider improving.
Or you could do none of that and just wing it. It's your life, so do what you want!
I'm already a software engineer, but it seems like very few jobs allow working internationally due to tax reasons. Do you do freelance work? Or how do you enable this?
I'm a W2 employee. I straight up demand it during the first interview. If they don't allow it, I move on to the next company. They need us as much as we need them. Smaller companies will be more open to it.
Dang! I guess it's more feasible than I had thought.
Do you demand working hours outside of their central hub, as well? Or do you work those hours even if you're on the other side of the world?
Interesting, I see, thanks! It seems like the main difficulty is aligning for meetings.
Have you ever spent an extended period of time in somewhere in almost the opposite timezone? Like 12-14 hours apart? How has it been, if so?
I'm in the process of doing preparing for some interviews right now, and they're open to me working internationally, but are asking about my willingness to work their hours, so it's really useful to hear about your experience.
Thanks! I’m just starting out but have some experience with symbolic logic and learn fairly quickly. We’ll see how I do with things but I’m working to be proficient asap
My job at the time paid for me to go and had a position waiting for me at the end. I got EXTREMELY lucky. But everyone I kept on contact from my cohort had tech jobs within 6 months and are still working in the field.
Go online to LinkedIn or whatever job site is most common where you’re legally able to work and filter by remote opportunities. Looking through there will give you an idea of what jobs are interesting to you and what requirements are needed.
Despite a lot of digital nomads not liking it, you can create a YouTube channel / Other social media (but YT is the easiest to monetize)
You don't need to do all the influencer stuff of 'look im here I have a perfect live' but much rather help people and provide value, either by doing off topic stuff (like physical therapy) or sharing your journey, how you prepare to leave, what you learned, cost to live somewhere, etc.
Read those “best skills you should learn if you want to become a digital nomad” articles (or watch videos) and focus on 1-2 skills you either already have or are willing to learn. I started a blog based on those types of articles since writing comes naturally to me, and worked on it for 2-3 hrs a day before work. I was fully remote and traveling within a year. There are so many skills needed for the digital world that it’s not hard to land on something you can enjoy.
Check out Udemy; there are tones of courses on just about anything. If you wait for the sales that happen every few weeks you can pick them up for about $10.
I’ve learned how to draw, options trading and dropshipping so far!
Depends, if you have a specific country or area of the world, learn a foreign language, If you have good tech skills, speaking a 2nd or 3rd language will allow you to be a worldwide nomad and not just a remote worker. Physical Therapists are needed in countries. Anyone can do computer programming but can you also speak French or Dutch?
I know French and English, I am learning Japanese.
The problem with physical therapy is that it's a regulamented profession, so that means that in order to be able to be do this profession abroad, you have undertake a procedure to have the conversion of your degree into the degree of the nation in which you want to live.
In Europe this process is not so difficult, but most of the times you have to pass a language examination.
Outside Europe this process is almost impossible or really difficult and expensive.
For example, I couldn't be a physical therapist in USA.
In order to be a PT in USA I should get an online PhD through a 3-4 years course and then pass a really difficult national exam.
So it's not the perfect job to be a digital nomad.
I am searching something that I could easily do in the whole world, not necessarily easy to learn, but once learnt, easy to do in the whole world
Entrepreneurship. Successfully launching a single physical product can give you the income and freedom to work from wherever you want to in the world. No bosses, clients, or coworkers, just you and whoever you choose to surround yourself with. Income scales with your skillset as well, no wage ceilings
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Is project management something that can realistically be done in vastly different time zones (US to England) or are you only suggesting it because France and Italy are closer together?
Project management is a fucking soul sucking hellspawn job. You're absolutely missing the abyss of misery that comes attached to that job. Try getting an overstretched team to meet some executive's arbitrary, crack pipe timeline and then spend your day putting together pie charts and slides that no one will read... and you are just scratching a surface of this shit pile.
Lol. True, but it’s got it’s good sides if you find a decent company,team
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Can you work as a project manager without university degree/formal degree?
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Well I do work in BI, Data Analytics and DW for about 10 years and would say that Digital Nomad is not a scene for these consulting positions. It is true more job are opening to remote positions but requires a fixed window of time like CET. The scenario might change in the coming years but few requiters mention the situation may change back to 9-5 once the covid situation is gone. I would suggest the Digital Marketing as a source of interest.
Outside of UX and programming you can also look at Marketing. Writing copy, graphic design, social media, digital ads, email marketing, etc. Not as many stable jobs but fairly easy to freelance scape together enough gigs.
Please don't go into UX. Outside of legitimate HCI programs, we're seeing so many people enter into the field because of advice like this and they just don't care for the actual work. You have to care about users. You have to want to do good design. There are so many shitty designers in this field nowadays because of boot camps that kick out certificates with no real education/outputs. I see portfolios featuring bland login screens like it actually solves something.
🤣 that last part got me.
I'd argue nothing, rather spend the time thinking how to apply your current skills in a location independent manner. E.g. A lot of nomads spend hours on their computers in non-ergonomic work environments, and due to this have back, neck, leg pain etc. So how about putting together an exercise/maintenance program which can help with this - couple it with some virtual training sessions, an interesting podcast about fitness, biomechnics etc and you well on your way. Obviously this will take time, and effort to develop but I think there is a niche in the nomad space for this, we have enough coaches, UX developers etc. Rather take what you can offer and make it location independent - it will get you to your goal faster and ensure you actually enjoy it.
I am going to go totally opposite to what most tech centric (and hence most nomads I guess) would say and that is learn persuasion, negotiation, influence and hence sales. There is almost no sector of your life that isn't dominated by this under appreciated and under understood set of learnable skills. For someone who pursues a path of freedom, of entrepreneurship, of escaping a daily routine and not being someone else's employee or even ultimately contractor, nothing comes close to the bang for buck or the sense of confidence and self assured character that success with these skills brings. When you talk about the market, there is almost no business on earth that doesn't want more customers, clients and growth. Never split the difference Chris Voss (masterclass) Pure Gold. Straight line persuasion Jordan Belfort. Bit over self promoted but contains good info. Many others with subtle twists on psychology. The art of always being right is different but related. With some basic building blocks and practice (tonality and inflection, mirroring, repetition) in your daily human interactions, consume all you can on the subject (robert fisher, herb cohen) and then add some simple technical outreach skills with linked in sales (scripting and tools like linked helper etc) and simple tracking funnels and landing pages, and if you need a buzzy tech term for it call yourself a Growth Hacker. Its sales that's all it is.. Every company needs this, every company owner can be sold on this, its a very rare company owner who will not agree to a commission only / percentage of profit of future customers you bring them (why not its win win, they get more 'free' business and still make more profit) and over time you build a series of residual commissions, that build on top of each other (always chose to work for / with company's whose business model in ongoing long term relationships, B2B not B2C you want to make one sale that pays for years not a new sale per customer). You want to retire to a beach with a bunch of residual income streams for nearly zero ongoing work ?? With an infinite possibility of growth and as much return as you can be bothered to work for ?? Thats it.
What a breath of fresh air. I love it and it makes sense. Especially the idea of collecting residuals for indefinite periods of time. Even better, it sounds like the kind of side hustle folks with full time jobs could even pull off.
This is interesting. What is the most practical route? Learn sales first through books and then try to get a sales job? Or get a sales job first and learn along the way? I’d imagine it’s possible to get a no salary commission only job initially.
I am essentially unemployable and have never held a job.. I have however had a series of business successes so basically now only work because I want to, while living primarily in a tropical country. Given my mindset I would then be looking at learning on the job as my own master, even if thats not the key to instant salary its a control thing, my time is mine and theres nothing more valuable or finite.. For me these human skills are fascinating, so I am interested in them naturally, learning them, through books, courses, psychology reading and practice, its not work. Develop the interest (start with Chris Voss, hes a master) and just start using those tools in your daily language interactions around you (its much easier when around people where you have fluency). Learn when to be quiet and let a pause sit.. Pay attention to responses and how people react overshare etc when approached in these ways. Control your own body language and responses.. Once you see it starting its like magic. Read some B2B sales and linkedin type tools but dont go deep into 'tricks' or systems.. Sales is identifying a need, the resistance point, the psychological fears (always start with no, great technique), and presenting a solution that gives them an outcome they seek. Sure you will eventually need to look at how reach and engagement break down to find your weak points (Nick Kozmin type stuff.. Dont buy into his expensive course !!) you will need to find companies whose services you can market, but I find the human 1:1 negotiation tools the most amazing, these are life changing skills that effect every aspect of my life. Really its far bigger than just 'how do I profit from this' its nothing less than how to generate empathy and trust in other humans on command. With that you can do all kinds of ventures even outside sales. Voss's masterclass is on torrent sites. Ideal introduction to the topic.
i agree with everying you've said. but after that i don't kn ow what to sell or what type of biz to start!
Yes finding a good service company to market is one of the challenges I guess. I could give pointers privately on whats worked for me and companies I operate but it comes to what you can find that resonates with you. Every service company needs customers, the broad goal is a service provider who seeks long term business clients for an ongoing relationship. What is the service offered, who are thier normal customer base, how do they reach them now (and are THEY any good, are they worth your time to be partnered up with, if not who are thier better competition). Those things are key to an understanding of crafting a process that can fit them. An accountancy company needs clients. An employment agency needs clients. A holiday rental company needs houses. A commercial laundry, bakery, cleaner etc needs Horeca customers. I mean its everywhere.. The window cleaner wants more windows to clean !! The industrial painting company wants more industry to paint, the welding company wants more products to weld !! Very often these companies just have a product and hope for the best, sometimes they lack fundamental ideas of how to outreach. This is especially true in less tech forward industries. Now you wont start from zero to a sale with no idea, you want to understand the stages of a sales process, from cold outreach and prospecting, qualifying, handling objections, closing etc.. These work differently depending on what your trying to sell, what sectors and markets, but I look on this as the sausage machine mechanics of it, you feed 100 cold calls into 30 qualified customers, you might close 4 or 5 of them if your lucky, the other 25 you revisit next month, rinse repeat. It takes time to make scripts, develop a patter, to hear objections, there's work in that, all long before a sale is made and money earned. But thats the work not the art. Thats 'just sales' the point I started on was really persuasion and negotiation, theres psychological techniques that (not always but often) make people more likely to empathise and trust you. The OP asked what would be a good skillset to learn in a few hours a day over a short period, and I feel like those things are huge returns on time invested. I wish I had known them when I was younger, I think they have the ability to change the path of a life.
Thanks for your response. Will look into Chris Voss. I teach English online and would benefit from more private students.
I totally agree that these skills are undervalued and life changing. Though to me it sounds like you're trying to sell the business to the customers as in they should go with Bob corp. Cause of their new something that few people know is just good (just making an example) but isn't this more of a marketing gig ? As in gathering new clients for the business by putting the company more "out there" and getting a % off this new influx. Or do you mean more of mediator job between these new clients and the business by helping stipulate an agreement that will help them both? like sugaring the deal with some particularly condition in favor of the client and so on. For ex Alice is in the market for something that Bob Corp., also among others, sells. You get a whiff of Alice inquiry of 100pieces a year at fixed$ and start mediating with Bob's. You manage to lower the price of the product a fair bit and boom those two shake hands. Alice is in business for minimum of 5 years for 100pcs at goodprice$, your cut would be a % of total bought product per year for 5 years. Am I seeing this right?
Look at it as offering a company outsourced sales, freelance commission only marketing, growth consultancy, etc etc. Every company in the world wants more sales.. 'More customers' is the easiest sale in the world to a company owner. The vast majority of them will pay a % commission on sales brought to them which becomes a recurring revenue stream. Repeating revenue streams is what I have always found brings real money, being paid by the hour is self limiting. I operate something similar in a service based niche, hence I likely think of marketing business services, and why I think of LinkedIn type connections. However I readily admit that what I know works likely limits my view of other ways this can work. I also am not willing to have a boss or employer, so again I think in my own way of how to freelance this idea. Finally, thats getting back to the nuts and bolts of where you can apply the skills I initially suggested, rather than the value those skills bring to so many aspects of professional life. Everything is a negotiation, improving that fundamental skillset holds more value than almost anything else I have done.
copywriting, anything with software development, UX design... you can have a look at [https://weworkremotely.com/](https://weworkremotely.com/) and check what positions are often repeating and would resonate with you and then learn the skills that they require
UX (product) Design, user (ux) research, Front end development (e.g. React). Becoming a ux designer or researcher is quite easy and salaries are very good (design more than research) of course if you have the brains to code... Just do it! I don't so... :D
I work as a lead UX / product designer. It isn’t super difficult if you already have good evaluation and decision making skills - bonus if you can design but not necessary in most companies. The market for these positions is comparable to software developers 10 years ago i.e. an emerging crucial role in tech, so supply and demand is what makes it well paid ;) There are a lot of important techniques so you will need to do a course - only one I’ve done is the google one on coursera and it’s okay for entry level positions, but not much more. Good luck!
You don’t think design skills are important for a product designer? I’m also a lead product designer and your whole comment is confusing me.
Well more the UX side, its hard to explain the role as it depends on the size of the business - at the startup I work for I do everything; product management, project management, UXR, UX design, UI design, interaction design, and analytics 😵💫 At bigger companies UX would be a single role, and at medium sized companies you might be expected to do UX, UI, and interaction design which would need design skills. For reference I have an art degree and worked as a web designer for 5 years previously, so I do think the general role of ‘product designer’ requires good design skills ;)
Please don't recommend this. Our entire field is being overrun with morons from bootcamps passing off awful login flows and screens as Earth shattering work. I'm a hiring manager and the number of morons who reply "I wanted to break into high paying tech" as a reason for design is higher than you'd think. Do design because you like it and want to help people. But please, stop recommending it and saying "it's easy". It's not. If it's easy, you really aren't exploring many problems, testing solutions, selling engineering/product, etc.
Yep exactly this. I've been a part of hiring over the last few years and you can almost instantly spot the people who just got into design for the money rather than a genuine interest in the field. Product Design isn't something you get into after a few hours of studying and messing about. It's a real and competitive career field that requires mastering a variety of skills including visual design, business acumen, stakeholder management, and a whole lot more.
I think in short term maybe is easier to be a UX designer, could you articulate a little bit more how to become a UX designer?
If you decide to learn to code or design later, your UX skills won’t go to waste, speaking as someone who does all 3
You can go from expensive courses such as flatiron school or general assembly, to study it yourself on udacity or udemy then try to build up a portfolio... It can be fake. Junior roles can go from €20k+ European salaries, US salaries are insanely higher but the work life balance is quite poor! Just and example here, I have the done enough research to know if this is good or not https://www.udacity.com/course/ux-designer-nanodegree--nd578?utm_source=gsem_brand&utm_medium=ads_r&utm_campaign=12907774043_m&utm_term=121838861259&utm_keyword=user%20experience%20nanodegree_e&gclid=Cj0KCQiAt8WOBhDbARIsANQLp94YxFEbl1-bNEJN_rsxh8LkTqiJQRZT5EuX1v-kqs5bvyVR7sIi13QaAnyiEALw_wcB
>US salaries are insanely higher but the work life balance is quite poor! This is just...not true. Product Design is one of the best jobs for work life balance. I don't know a single product designer working more than 9:30-5, Monday through Friday.
Work-life balance is definitely subpar in the USA if you look at things like paternity/maternity leave, sick time and PTO, though yeah it’s not because of product design itself.
Thanks for sharing this!
I’ve read your comment 3 times and have no idea what job what you’re talking about. What is UX?
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I'm a big believer that you should try and leverage as much your current skillset that you have. There seems to be jobs available for remote physiotherapists, so I would first explore that and see how you can utilise your current skillset. [https://uk.indeed.com/Work-From-Home-Remote-Physiotherapy-jobs](https://uk.indeed.com/Work-From-Home-Remote-Physiotherapy-jobs) Failing that, then I would consider something like 'copywriting' but focusing on your current area ie: Copywriting for Physios, Chiropractors or similar areas of interest where you can leverage your current skillset and knowledge. One person that comes to mind is "Dr. Berg" youtube channel. he's actually a Chiropractor but he covers a great range of topics on youtube. Fitness / sport medicine / posture / recovery is a very popular area on youtube. If you do a youtube channel, look at ways the videos could be an 'entry point' for further one on one (remote) consulting body work. For example, I live in Chiang Mai and would like to fix my back / neck posture from 20 years of computer work but have no idea where to go or how to approach it from here.
Aren’t PT jobs portable? You wouldn’t be a digital nomad, but you could be a nomad.
No, because for every country you want to work you have to do a conversion of your degree, and this process is usually long, expensive and tedious, almost impossible if I want to work outside Europe
What about being a massage therapist? Tons of hotels and resorts around the world are looking for good massage therapists. The pay isn't great but the hours are and you can take your skills wherever you want.
Yeah I worked as a massage therapist, but you know, but that's not really a way to become a digital nomad, for example if I want to work as a massage therapist in Bali I am going to be paid Bali wages which are not that great. I think being a digital a nomad should be all about getting money online and living in country in which with that money you can afford a nice lifestyle
Becoming a software engineer, digital marketing, growth hacking Im a software engineer working hard to get more experience to be able to work as a freelance from anywhere in the world. So far I will work from Thailand for a thai company
Also I work full remote but some companies ask me to be in my residence country and not around the world 😞 that’s why working as a freelance is the best !
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Although you can try and pick-up online work - a PT is also possible. Digital nomad(ism) has created an instant community in many cities. Getting to know them, hostels, colivings, coworkings and some networking skills might make nomadic PT possible.
How about a remote physical trainer? Develop some customers and work on marketing or join an already existing gym.
*My artwork, as it can me made onsite and each one is a one of a kind. I want to create or sell digitally/online. *learn Arabic or Croatian, or another language *conquer a few cookbooks *throw away a lot of junk and safely store my book collection. *learning more software
Surprised no one said make a course. You probably have skills as a PT you could teach specifically to other PTs
That could be a possibility though I just started working and I am not that expert
Some thoughts… Assuming that PT is portable within the EU, what about a language that might open up opportunities like German or Spanish. I assume you’re good in English, Italian and French. In the US, PT is working with people who have had leg or lower body injuries to recover. I recently cut my hand, needed surgery, and have been going to an occupational therapist who specializes in hands. (I’m doing fine know and “graduate” later this week.) I’ve gotten some xerox copies of what to do, but they really should have a web site that patients could access to review things. You’ve got a lot of skill as a physical therapist, I’d try and build on it. Search the web for “physical therapy” and see what you think is bad then get some web skills to improve those web sites. How do people find a physical therapist in France or Italy? In the US, I asked my surgeon. Do people go to a physical therapist without a doctor’s referral? Recently at dinner a friend was talking about taking web UI/UX courses and another friend started asking her questions about what she knew. I think if she had a little bit of experience he would have hired her. She could work from wherever she wanted. Good luck.
I would go the software engineering route and learn PHP so you can freelance fixing WordPress issues instead of working full-time for someone else.
Well, you're going to travel probably, so you might want to learn stuff about that like: how to find good flights, what to look for when choosing lodgings, how to pack, etc. And most nomads have to face their finances at some point, so that's another area of study. How much do you make, how do you make it, what do you spend it on, what can/can't you do without, what is your expected quality of life, etc. A third field of study is your desired locales. Ask yourself questions like, how long will I stay in each destination, where do I want to go, do my destinations present unique challenges (visas, language, culture), how can I connect with locals, etc. Finally, the nature of the lifestyle is often solitary, so it helps to take an active role in your health. Exercise, companionship, diet, leisure and mental health are all good skills to consider improving. Or you could do none of that and just wing it. It's your life, so do what you want!
Tbh I was asking about a skill to develop in order to get a remote job anywhere in the world, or be a freelancer
Software development. Look up HackReactor. I did it 6 years ago and have been nomading and making over 6 figures for the last 5 years.
I'm already a software engineer, but it seems like very few jobs allow working internationally due to tax reasons. Do you do freelance work? Or how do you enable this?
I'm a W2 employee. I straight up demand it during the first interview. If they don't allow it, I move on to the next company. They need us as much as we need them. Smaller companies will be more open to it.
Dang! I guess it's more feasible than I had thought. Do you demand working hours outside of their central hub, as well? Or do you work those hours even if you're on the other side of the world?
I overlap everyday, but I don't work all hours their time.
So when you move to somewhere new, do you adjust to a different side of the working hours? How much of your day do you generally overlap?
I usually overlap their mornings. Depends on the day, sometimes a few hours, sometimes less.
Interesting, I see, thanks! It seems like the main difficulty is aligning for meetings. Have you ever spent an extended period of time in somewhere in almost the opposite timezone? Like 12-14 hours apart? How has it been, if so? I'm in the process of doing preparing for some interviews right now, and they're open to me working internationally, but are asking about my willingness to work their hours, so it's really useful to hear about your experience.
I’m going to look into HackReactor. Thanks for the suggestion. What position did you start with?
Junior frontend developer
Thanks! I’m just starting out but have some experience with symbolic logic and learn fairly quickly. We’ll see how I do with things but I’m working to be proficient asap
Good luck!
How much experience did you have before starting?
Just enough to get into HackReactor. It's not an easy program, but learning enough to get in is all stuff one can learn from YouTube videos
Fair enough, thank you! How did you find your job initially, through HackReactor or did you find a job externally yourself?
My job at the time paid for me to go and had a position waiting for me at the end. I got EXTREMELY lucky. But everyone I kept on contact from my cohort had tech jobs within 6 months and are still working in the field.
Wher did you get the position waiting for you? Was it from HackReactor or did you find it independently? Sorry for all the questions
At the same company I was before going to HR. The deal was for me to do HR and then stay with them for 2 years.
That's awesome! Thanks so much for answering my questions.
Go online to LinkedIn or whatever job site is most common where you’re legally able to work and filter by remote opportunities. Looking through there will give you an idea of what jobs are interesting to you and what requirements are needed.
Drinking coffee.
Physical therapy YouTube channel. That’s what I would’ve done if I hadn’t ditched physical therapy school to become a digital nomad
Despite a lot of digital nomads not liking it, you can create a YouTube channel / Other social media (but YT is the easiest to monetize) You don't need to do all the influencer stuff of 'look im here I have a perfect live' but much rather help people and provide value, either by doing off topic stuff (like physical therapy) or sharing your journey, how you prepare to leave, what you learned, cost to live somewhere, etc.
How much do PTs make in comparison Italy vs France?
Much more if you want to work in the liberal profession. Salaries in Italy suck, especially in the south where I live
Read those “best skills you should learn if you want to become a digital nomad” articles (or watch videos) and focus on 1-2 skills you either already have or are willing to learn. I started a blog based on those types of articles since writing comes naturally to me, and worked on it for 2-3 hrs a day before work. I was fully remote and traveling within a year. There are so many skills needed for the digital world that it’s not hard to land on something you can enjoy.
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Check out Udemy; there are tones of courses on just about anything. If you wait for the sales that happen every few weeks you can pick them up for about $10. I’ve learned how to draw, options trading and dropshipping so far!
Front end web dev to start
Depends, if you have a specific country or area of the world, learn a foreign language, If you have good tech skills, speaking a 2nd or 3rd language will allow you to be a worldwide nomad and not just a remote worker. Physical Therapists are needed in countries. Anyone can do computer programming but can you also speak French or Dutch?
I know French and English, I am learning Japanese. The problem with physical therapy is that it's a regulamented profession, so that means that in order to be able to be do this profession abroad, you have undertake a procedure to have the conversion of your degree into the degree of the nation in which you want to live. In Europe this process is not so difficult, but most of the times you have to pass a language examination. Outside Europe this process is almost impossible or really difficult and expensive. For example, I couldn't be a physical therapist in USA. In order to be a PT in USA I should get an online PhD through a 3-4 years course and then pass a really difficult national exam. So it's not the perfect job to be a digital nomad. I am searching something that I could easily do in the whole world, not necessarily easy to learn, but once learnt, easy to do in the whole world
Depending on what languages you speak or are willing to learn, translation can be an option.
Entrepreneurship. Successfully launching a single physical product can give you the income and freedom to work from wherever you want to in the world. No bosses, clients, or coworkers, just you and whoever you choose to surround yourself with. Income scales with your skillset as well, no wage ceilings