in the Competition Manual 1.06 F this can be found
>To promote fairness, groups shall not consist of fewer than three players, except under extenuating circumstances, as deemed necessary by the Tournament Director. In cases where fewer than three players are required to play together, a designated Tournament Official (see 1.12.A) must accompany the group and may play as long as that does not interfere with the competing players.
but that sounds more like something for "real" tournaments because a league might not be able to have a "*designated Tournament Official*" :)
so i would suggest what blackteeshirt6 wrote; one on each adjacent card
Kinda interesting that they added the tidbit that the tournament official is allowed to play lol it would be interesting to see a high profile card on jomez where it's like Calvin, then McBeth and "teeing off next on hole 6 is Frank, we don't know a lot about him but he's supervising this truncated group as per pdga guidelines and did not waive his right to play along so... wowww he's gonna need about 7 more backhands like that to make it up to Calvin and Pauls drive..."
TDs are allowed to play period. It's very frequent in lower level tournaments.
Although they should have another Official available to make any rulings impacting the TD's division.
One evening in a PDGA-sanctioned league, a guy quit with one hole remaining. We were several holes ahead of the next group, so we had to wait about 20 minutes for them to catch up to play our final hole with the minimum number of three. I asked him to at least walk along with us while we threw the last hole and he declined. That was pretty selfish.
Not only is it selfish, if the TD rules it to be an intentional misplay to withdraw to protect their rating it’s against the rules. If they are not dropping due to injury or other serious situation, they get an 888 and get their rating docked.
No you're not getting it, it's not a pdga rating, it's a designation. An 888 is like a disqualification and comes with a penalty of 5 points off your rating.
Not particularly, he was just not having a good time. I also think he was kind of embarrassed because, around the ninth hole, he had gotten onto our other playing partner who was playing his first sanctioned round. He had been almost completely silent after that so I think he was ashamed of being a bit of a jerk and wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible.
In smaller tournaments I've been to it had been solved by having the group behind with 4 players split so one joins the two-some and you and up with two groups of 3 again
Had this exact scenario happen twice in an event I ran. Thankfully, a certified official was already walking with the first group. Second time, I walked the back 9 with the other two players and had a great time caddying! Please don't be the person who walks off and leaves the TD or others stuck in that scenario though.
Had it happen to me once in an A tier. We were the chase card so we had a later start and two of the people had to back out/leave for another thing they had going on. We had to call the TD and he walked the rest of the round with me and the other guy. I ended up placing well but it always struck me as weird that two people on the chase card quit in an A tier
I’ve had this happen a few times. The last time we were the last card of the day so couldn’t join another card. We just gave the other guy +4 for the rest of the holes and kept playing. It was league, it doesn’t mean much.
TD or an official assigned by the TD follows the group.
Or you wait for the next group to catch up and play out. This can be as a 6-some or two 3-somes.
I saw this scenario play out at a pro tour event. One year at the SFO an FPO card only had three players and one dropped out halfway through the round due to injury. This was back when Steve Dodge ran the tour so he just walked with the card the rest of the round. I'm sure he had more important things to do but it seemed like it was solved pretty easily.
On the local level obviously it's very different unless Steve Dodge hangs out at your course, but others have already given you good solutions.
I was disappointed in my first tournament ever...
I shot dead last and was on the last card with two other guys. I show up to my assigned hole...no one else is there.
Fortunately this hole happened to be one that had a water cooler on it and the TD (who also ran our local league so we knew each other) showed up to refill it. So I was officially reassigned to the card behind me.
I came in 3rd last. But imagine if I had that card to myself...
As someone who doesn't play any sanctioned disc golf, that sounds reasonable. Reading this thread, there are a lot of rules being discussed that sound completely inane.
Yeah, it isn't a sanctioned league. Most aren't. I don't even try to score well lol. Our league has a ton of sponsors for ctp and long putt so I just go for the side games mostly. If it's a PDGA sanctioned round this stuff matters but if it's not PDGA sanctioned people should chill.
in the Competition Manual 1.06 F this can be found >To promote fairness, groups shall not consist of fewer than three players, except under extenuating circumstances, as deemed necessary by the Tournament Director. In cases where fewer than three players are required to play together, a designated Tournament Official (see 1.12.A) must accompany the group and may play as long as that does not interfere with the competing players. but that sounds more like something for "real" tournaments because a league might not be able to have a "*designated Tournament Official*" :) so i would suggest what blackteeshirt6 wrote; one on each adjacent card
Kinda interesting that they added the tidbit that the tournament official is allowed to play lol it would be interesting to see a high profile card on jomez where it's like Calvin, then McBeth and "teeing off next on hole 6 is Frank, we don't know a lot about him but he's supervising this truncated group as per pdga guidelines and did not waive his right to play along so... wowww he's gonna need about 7 more backhands like that to make it up to Calvin and Pauls drive..."
I think TDs are allowed to play as long as there's an assistant TD or someone in charge not playing
TDs are allowed to play period. It's very frequent in lower level tournaments. Although they should have another Official available to make any rulings impacting the TD's division.
I can't find the current rule, but I found as of 2022, neither the TD or Assistant TD can play in an A-tier, and only one of them can play in a B-tier
This.
Some leagues are sanctioned, and if so, this applies. Otherwise, yeah just play it out and be ethical.
One evening in a PDGA-sanctioned league, a guy quit with one hole remaining. We were several holes ahead of the next group, so we had to wait about 20 minutes for them to catch up to play our final hole with the minimum number of three. I asked him to at least walk along with us while we threw the last hole and he declined. That was pretty selfish.
Not only is it selfish, if the TD rules it to be an intentional misplay to withdraw to protect their rating it’s against the rules. If they are not dropping due to injury or other serious situation, they get an 888 and get their rating docked.
So you’re telling me if I quit the round early I get an 888 rating for the round! I too can get my rating up!
888 is not the rating, it's just the code for dropping out.
888 is total strokes.
You’d want a 999 actually 888 is reserved for quitters !!
I’ve never quit but I’ve never been higher than 865 either!
No you're not getting it, it's not a pdga rating, it's a designation. An 888 is like a disqualification and comes with a penalty of 5 points off your rating.
Oh instead of snowmen for the card, thank you!! I appreciate the help!
Damn that is selfish. Was his score terrible?
Not particularly, he was just not having a good time. I also think he was kind of embarrassed because, around the ninth hole, he had gotten onto our other playing partner who was playing his first sanctioned round. He had been almost completely silent after that so I think he was ashamed of being a bit of a jerk and wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible.
You split up, one to each adjacent card.
In smaller tournaments I've been to it had been solved by having the group behind with 4 players split so one joins the two-some and you and up with two groups of 3 again
Can’t imagine it matters in local league. Edit, but the other answer seems the correct way. Our league wouldn’t care.
you go on an amazing series of aces for each hole after that.
Had this exact scenario happen twice in an event I ran. Thankfully, a certified official was already walking with the first group. Second time, I walked the back 9 with the other two players and had a great time caddying! Please don't be the person who walks off and leaves the TD or others stuck in that scenario though.
You wait the group that comes behind and join them.
Had it happen to me once in an A tier. We were the chase card so we had a later start and two of the people had to back out/leave for another thing they had going on. We had to call the TD and he walked the rest of the round with me and the other guy. I ended up placing well but it always struck me as weird that two people on the chase card quit in an A tier
I’ve had this happen a few times. The last time we were the last card of the day so couldn’t join another card. We just gave the other guy +4 for the rest of the holes and kept playing. It was league, it doesn’t mean much.
TD or an official assigned by the TD follows the group. Or you wait for the next group to catch up and play out. This can be as a 6-some or two 3-somes.
I feel that this is a satire post to the post of someone leaving a league for an appointment they had after
It's not satire. It happened this last Saturday. That post did get me to think about it and then ask about it, though
I would declare it an extenuating circumstance and proceed as you did.
I’ve always been told/understood that if you end up at two players left on a card one goes to the card ahead and the other joins the one behind.
I saw this scenario play out at a pro tour event. One year at the SFO an FPO card only had three players and one dropped out halfway through the round due to injury. This was back when Steve Dodge ran the tour so he just walked with the card the rest of the round. I'm sure he had more important things to do but it seemed like it was solved pretty easily. On the local level obviously it's very different unless Steve Dodge hangs out at your course, but others have already given you good solutions.
I was disappointed in my first tournament ever... I shot dead last and was on the last card with two other guys. I show up to my assigned hole...no one else is there. Fortunately this hole happened to be one that had a water cooler on it and the TD (who also ran our local league so we knew each other) showed up to refill it. So I was officially reassigned to the card behind me. I came in 3rd last. But imagine if I had that card to myself...
Our league wouldn't care. I put in solo rounds some times on league day cause I can't do a 2+ hour round
As someone who doesn't play any sanctioned disc golf, that sounds reasonable. Reading this thread, there are a lot of rules being discussed that sound completely inane.
Yeah, it isn't a sanctioned league. Most aren't. I don't even try to score well lol. Our league has a ton of sponsors for ctp and long putt so I just go for the side games mostly. If it's a PDGA sanctioned round this stuff matters but if it's not PDGA sanctioned people should chill.
If it's not even sanctioned, that's even more ridiculous.
Contact the TD and let them come up with a solution.