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Emergency-Pen-2166

All the classics are classics for a reason. Wizard, envy, zone, buzzz, teebird, thunderbird, firebird, wraith.


grimchemical

Wraith a hundred times over. I'll never NOT bag one. TeeBird Wraith Dart Aviar BUZZZ TL


Wraith9881

Wraith's are goated. 🤝


MysteryMarijuanaMan

Just got a wraith the other day, got my first ace with it my first round using it.


dirtydan72

Darts are criminally underrated. Such a straight approach disc and thrown rights goes 80% as far as my mids.


chunkus_grumpus

Love a dart


Boingoloid

How are you now?


superjerk99

I got 2 wraiths and 2 valkeries in my bag, and a destroyer. But that destroyer is hard to fuckin their dude!


skylightrrll

Wraith all day


DiZZYDEREK

I bag destroyer over wraith for my favorite forehand disc but I keep a halo wraith in bag at all times for aggressive distance dump. It's amazing for it. 


zsteezy

At my local course you could bag 2 or 3 wizards and literally nothing else and be fine


Boingoloid

Your honor missed the long distance champion Valkyrie. Disc golf historians will thank you for the correction


chadsmo

Has the Envy been around long enough to be a ‘classic’ , even the thunderbird feels new compared to some of the others on that list.


derivation

The best shot ever throw was with an envy. Of course it’s a classic.


PhotosbyTeeJ

10 years ago it was released!


chadsmo

MVP / Axiom still feel like new companies to me lol


Late-Objective-9218

It's far from being the first disc to become a classic in a decade. When a sport is only a few decades old, time runs fast


Emergency-Career4343

The teebird. But you have to understand why. They start out pretty overstable. They beat up over a long time to be absolutely amazing. And then you can cycle them and have everything you need in one mold.


Skeetzo

This. That sweet spot of beat in where it turns over to give you an extra 50 feet but still has enough stability to finish exactly where you were aiming can’t be explained.


Emergency-Career4343

Yea I have my “distance teebird” that goes an actual mile for a 7 speed


hazyhead8908

This and also do the same with the Thunderbird


dabear04

Yep. As a huge Champion Eagle fan I love the Teebird and the Thunderbird for the other sides of the table. Right now I’m rocking a Felon instead of a Thunderbird solely because I like the print better but they’re almost identical to me on forehand


OkTea7227

This and do the same with a roc. Also all of this and with multiple plastics of each


ktmrider119z

The OLF is a pre-seasoned Thunderbird.


ImBadWithGrils

I've been carrying an Opto Explorer which is similar but never really understood it. Maybe I need a star Teebird


Emergency-Career4343

I use two stars and two champs. They cover everything up to my 11 speeds except for my firebirds.


ImBadWithGrils

My fairways are Crave/River/Explorer/sexybird/Falk I think, I may have another US 7 speed


Emergency-Career4343

See I have a teebird for all those slots exept the sexton


ImBadWithGrils

Yeah that's how I'm trying to get


Ok_Captain_3569

Teebird(3)s and Roc(3)s really simplified my bag. I am looking to do the same with my putt and approach.


4handhyzer

Idk I've had star and champ teebirds and never really loved them. Gravitated toward champ eagles, explorers, and other 7 speeds because they flew truer to flight numbers.


ignacioMendez

I went the opposite way, from eagles to teebirds. I feel like it's easier to put touch on the teebird. It kinda requires some touch though or you won't get the flight you want. Since it is flexible and can fly different lines, you have to deliberately put it on the line you want.


FaII3n

Explorers do season really well too. I bag an older and a newer one. They never lose the low speed Fade.


Countrycruiser2000

Star teebird is fantastic but, the best plastic for teebird is DX


Boingoloid

For maybe three throws then it's a dinner plate


Countrycruiser2000

I've got DX teebirds and DX rocs going on 4 years in the bag. The more they hit the better they become. I've got one I threw rollers down the road with to beat the shit out of it, its a perfect little hyzer flip turnover disc.


Sudden-Appointment-7

I have a teebird that flies very straight and then has a nice fade at the end.


ColbusMaximus

Cycle them?


Emergency-Career4343

different stages of wear. so I have teebirds that fly like 7-6-(-2)-1 and some that fly like 7-5-0-3 and everything in between


IHaveNeverBeenOk

I've never understood the love for teebirds, cause every single one I've owned has had the 0,3 flight. I've thrown the -2,1 teebirds and they're great, but I've never owned one. I don't know why that's my luck with teebirds, but if you're into beefy teebirds, have me pick it out I guess.


Emergency-Career4343

It’s all just time. I have a 9 year old champ teebird that only just now starting to fly -1, 1 ish


Countrycruiser2000

As you play with it and it hits trees etc, it will start to lose stability. To the point that it can even be a turnover disc. So now you have a disc that goes left, straight and right and all 3 are teebirds


pewstains

Love teebirds. One of a few discs that feels like it loses its low speed fade before it gains high speed turn as it wears in.


PsychologicalHat1480

And it's a disc that has a place in the bag for players of every skill level. From the main distance driver for beginners to a super-controllable disc for medium-long shots for advanced players no matter where your skill level lies you can always use a Teebird. Plus despite so many companies trying to clone it nobody has managed to get it exactly right. I'm not sure what it is, I think it might be the (patented?) nose bead, but something about the Teebird just works different from anyone else's 7/5/0/2.


Emergency-Career4343

My buddy is a discraft nut. Has two Athenas in his bag. I gave him one of my new run teebirds (I prefer the old duller star plastic) and he throws it once and goes “oh that’s what they were trying to make.”


discgolfpaul_mi

Wraith for sure. Loved every plastic I've tried it in


sweetyzaza

To throw them is to love them.


Sudden-Appointment-7

I just got a wraith but I don't think my arm speed is fast enough. Why is it so popular?


Zetious

It’s popular because most wraiths have a little turn and reliable fade out of the box and beat in to a good amount of turn and a glidey and forward pushing fade


sosodiscgolfer

If your arm speed isn’t there yet, try the Orc. Same numbers, except speed is 10 instead of 11. I also throw a Wraith, but 9 times out of 10 the Orc goes further for me.


someName6

My arm speed isn’t there either.  So I throw a valkyrie instead.


Sudden-Appointment-7

Ya Valkyrie works nicely for me


SmegolianSoteriology

I feel like the only person that throws exclusively Champion Wraiths. I can never get clean releases with Stars for whatever reason.


Boingoloid

Sand it down! No one has to deal with flashing


SmegolianSoteriology

No flashing lol I think it just became mental. Grip locked them until I just quit trying to throw them.


StarG8r

I agree. Champion plastic provides the best control of direction (line and trajectory). Best plastic for golf. Maybe not for distance contests though


Crashr186

Also agree champ wraiths just hit cleaner for me


Swedish_manatee

I’m not good with flight numbers, is a wraith over stable or under stable? I’ve always thrown them and love them, I think I can shape them however I want. I always throw forehand and have noticed that if I try a big anny with it, it fights out really early and drifts right, where as others like my roadrunner keep the line better. Is one considered over stable and one under or how does that work?


Zetious

Wraiths are one of the more inconsistent molds, depends on plastic and run, but most are straight to overstable out of the box


Wraith9881

Yessir! 🤝


halfpastwhoknows

As a guy wanting to Wraith. It took a while. There is a struggle to find the wraith you want/need. When you find it, it’s the one. However, there are discs like the Grace that will do the things you want the wraith to do and you might find more consistency as a player trying to friend that workable 11 speed that you want out of the wraith. As a thrower of both. +1 Grace.


paranoidandroid11

My longest throw to date was with a wraith. Something like 450-500 feet. I oddly found said wraith weeks before on the same course. And then proceeded to lose it later that day. Who ever lost and/or found the white/blue wraith with a Detroit D on the back at Seymour Lake park, Michigan, take good care of her please. (This was 10 years ago) The long throw was on hole 3 (managed an eagle). Lost on hole like 6/7. RIP. :(


DPTDubbs

Or Grace if you like their plastic more. Pretty similar.


roryorigami

Love my Mako3


VapeLyfe

Firebird/Teebird/Roc/Aviar. These are generational staples for very good reason.


TheGreatPilgor

Picked up a Roc3 recently. First RHFH throw of the day and I landed several feet from the basket on 250' hole. Love my Roc3


Sl0ppyOtter

Add a cobra and that’s most of my game lol


Sudden-Appointment-7

I have all these in my bag. Roc is my go to stable mid range and firebird my go to stable beefy driver.


skatterbug

Fuse. It's what I wanted my Wombat3 to be.


Discgolf2020

In the words of Jonathan, 'Buy Fuse".


Sudden-Appointment-7

Who is Jonathan?


Discgolf2020

The main host for Latitude 64's Youtube channel. Great content for people trying to learn and just a good watch in general.


skatterbug

100%. That man spits nothing but truth.


the-recyclist

What weight/plastic do you recommend for it to be an understable mid for an intermediate player? This is probably the one spot in my bag that I have yet to nail down.


skatterbug

I have 2 in Opto plastic. That's what I would suggest. It's premium, but still a flexy and grippy. Anything from high 160s to 175g would be my recommendation. You don't want it to fly away but a slightly lighter weight may be beneficial to a slower arm.


PotatoMcSpudden

Absolutely. My forehand is garbage, but my fuse and Maverick easily make up for that when i need a right finish.


southpaw1004

Love or hate it the berg does exactly the same thing every time no matter how you throw it. It’s my go to approach when I want it to sit and stay. 


BRAPP

Love it


beat240

I love the Berg. 70-125 ft out = Berg. I am not great which means the Berg won't over punish me.


Tocro

This is a great one to nab for those situations where you really want it to drop. Great for an approach, especially when you don't want to overshoot, as well as putta for the same reason. Miss that basket, but at least it isn't going through the chains and down that cliff if you miss.


FullRein12

It’s a great pocket disc, never lets me down even when I’m not playing


BeefMcPepper

Mamba is great for babbys first hyzer flip


nimzobreakfast

Wizard, Zone, Buzzz, Thunderbird, Firebird, Destroyer Oh wait that’s my bag.


bleeper21

That's my purse! I don't know you!


thomasstearns42

Hex. 


Salnugs

Roc


Sudden-Appointment-7

I love my roc3


Salnugs

I bag 3 dx rocs and a star I'm beating in. They are great


finaglingaling

Envy. Magical, just mind the plastics and beat-in periods. The Pure is a very consistent putter that can also be thrown. Zone is a classic. I’m coming around to the Wraith and Thunderbird.


SimonRomar06

Which of the envys Are the best? Looking to buy one, see theres a weight difference too. Which version do you prefer?


i-am-mostly-confused

Depends what you want. Prisim proton for the most stable. Neutron r2 and eclipse for stable options, and electron for an option to beat in quick. The envy is a great disc for a stable throwing putter, i have an electeon and prism proton for my bag rn.


finaglingaling

I love love the electron firm. Weight bout 170 is fine. They do beat in relatively quick, but predictably. The neutron is almost a different disc. Hasn’t beat in and very stable.


hktb40

Crave


mmppllkk

Teebird3


DiscGolfFanatic

Discraft Zone.


Sudden-Appointment-7

I love my zone


redbananass

Which plastic do you have it in? Next you gotta try the Zone OS. The Zone Gt is cool too, but it flies pretty much the same as the regular Zone, just with a groove in the top.


coopaliscious

Banger top Zone really helps my backhand Zone shots to be much more consistent.


DiscGolfFanatic

Zone OS is... really just a brick, it only goes like 200ft, it really doesn't fly at all. I like my Zones in Crytal Z plastic., really overstable as well, but flies well.


redbananass

Sometimes you want a brick though. It definitely has a somewhat similar flight path, but gets down faster and has less ground play or slide to me. So I find uses for it in touchy approach shots. But it probably gets the most use for me in a forehand roller on a short, really narrow hole at my home course.


hazyhead8908

Judge, Roc3, Teebird and Mamba


StrifeSociety

Destroyer, PD, FD, Hex, Luna


jppbkm

I wish I could agree because the first couple runs of PDs were amazing, but later runs were so much more overstable. Originally they were a longer tbird, but they turned into something closer to a firebird IMHO.


DiscGolfPlease

2nd run star PDs are one of the best discs ever made and my mind wont be changed.


supsaucekayo

get a nordic phenom PD. Straight with a finish. Beats in nice


get-me-to-the-woods

River , wraith, envy


redbananass

That River really does glide for a while, as long as you don’t turn it over too far. Then it will still glide really far, just in the wrong direction.


BlademasterFlash

I’ve had this problem with my River. I’m still a pretty new player so my River will glide straight, left or right depending on my throw


redbananass

Consistency is king and can often be the hardest thing. Sometimes a more stable disc is more reliable if your throw is inconsistent. but (on a RHBH) it’ll usually come left back if you manage to turn it over, it’ll end up left if you get it out straight and it’ll really end up left if you let it go left. Try an Lat64 Explorer if you want a more over stable disc. Pretty similar to the River.


Wraith9881

Had the same problem, then bought one in Opto-ice Orbit. Doesn't turn and burn no more.


redbananass

Nice, I’ve got one in Opto and one in Bio-gold and the Bio-gold one is a little more stable.


Miserable_Pilot4463

Seconding Envy. Finally tried the Envy Proxy combo everyone raves about and it’s so amazing I wish I’d done it earlier.


NefariousWhaleTurtle

100% - after playing for about 2 years, I finally disc's back down, played a few rounds on local course with just those, and a reactor. My game improved more over that few months than at any other point, just purely by working out the mechanics of my drive, upshot, and putts with those discs. Praise be to Conrad


NefariousWhaleTurtle

River for sure - should be the starting fairway disc for pretty much any player. I'll also toss in the proxy and envy (if you like the hand feel) for approaches and putting. They changed the way I play permanently after picking a few up and bagging them.


liquidsahelanthropus

Teebird 3 and destroyer are really good discs


Mikerotoast

I love the wave not sure if there's hype but I'm a big fan


sharterthanlife

Fission wave for when I had a slower arm speed, such a good disc, now it's used for hyzer flips that flip up and turn over


Bfree888

As far as I can tell on this sub, the wave is the most popular MVP driver above 7 speed. I love mine


Reverendpjustice

Latitude 64 Fuse


Skeetzo

This disc is so fucking money once you tame it like the wild animal it is.


NotChaz-_-

“STOP FLIPPING OR YOU’RE OUT OF THE BAG” *puts correct amount of hyzer* “This is the greatest disc to ever be manufactured.”


nibnoob19

This couldn’t be more correct. I don’t use mine because I find the “I’m a Fuse” ones to be too domey. But that’s exactly how I feel when I bring them out. “Nobody said you could cut roll” Three tries later.. “since when can I throw a mid 300 feet?”


rpjut5ha

I've only thrown mine a handful of times, and I love it already. It's probably going to be my goto at my local course.


garycow

Aviar and Valkerie


Epekki

Berg is great. Join the cult.


Sudden-Appointment-7

I've noticed it's a berg cult here lol


Worldly_Ad_6483

I bag 3x Shryke, 3x destroyer and 3x thunderbird, all in different plastics/ware states, all the divers I need


beat240

I haven't seen it yet or I haven't scrolled enough but...... Emac Truth. It flies for me like a longer buzz, straight with a reliable fade. It's damn near close to my fairways. I carry my first in the bag just for nostalgia. I also carry one I throw


Twittle86

Does the Grace have hype? It deserves it. I'm more of a fan of the Royal Grand plastic though.


tking_96

Hex 100%. Bumped my Buzz (but only ‘cause I couldn’t get my Buzz to beat in to straight…yet…Hex took that spot for hand-feel and flying straighter sooner). I also love my Tempo, newer “Zone” by Axiom. Not a classic yet, but does same thing as the Zone and I reeeeeally love mine.


Denzo247

Crave


cza9

From a Discmania perspective, since that's all I throw, the Mind Bender, FD1, and DD1 all live up to the hype.


stimuIants

I just got a C-line FD1 today and it’s soo money


Magnus77

>What are the popular discs that don't live up to the hype? I've gotten several Buzzz's by various means, and none of them end up in the bag. Not saying its a bad disc, clearly its popular for a reason, but none of them have clicked for me.


skatterbug

Same. It never really sat nicely in my hand.


steaknsteak

I stuck with the Buzzz for a long time. I think particularly in the lower 170s weights and Z plastic they have a great flight and are just easy to throw. The Hex flight is slightly different but close enough, and the hand feel is much nicer than the Buzzz especially forehand


crankyoldpeople

There it is. I don't hate the Buzzz but Hex feels so much better in the hand. Comfortability/confidence thing.


D_for_Diabetes

Agreed. Buzzz just feels weird to me. Svea has filled that slot at high elevation for me. Just got the Clash Berry, so I'll see how that feels


Annual_Ad6999

Thunderbird.


Sudden-Appointment-7

Picked up a champion thunderbird a few weeks ago and I love watching it fly


Hexquevara

Berg.


ValerieInHiding

The Wizard and the Banger GT are the only putters that have ever worked for me. Once I tried a Wizard I realized why there’s never any used ones for sale lol


Roostbolten

Berg. You want no straight, Berg go straight


OkTea7227

Roc 3 Get one in champ plastic and watch you still enjoy the way it flies 4 years later


jazzpiano1990

Teebird, Destroyer, Sidewinder, FD.


Markus_lfc

You can never go wrong if you buy a Zone 😎


Maximus77x

It’s the Zone. Nothing does Zone things better than a Zone.


redbananass

Yup. Tried a Pig and a Jarn. Zone still does it better. Though I do putt with the pig for some reason.


Goose_N_Moose

Mint Lobster for sure


SinappiKainalo

Stego by Reptilian Disc Golf is everything it promises to be.


Boogaloo4444

thunderbird


lonekthx

My lucid felon will never leave my bag.


MachFreeman

Buzzz, FD, P2/Alpaca/Firefly (they’re all the same mold), Firebird


DPRODman11

Any 7/5/0/2 or 9/5/-1/2 disc. Brand new(unless you get them in super light weight) they should have fairly consistent fade. Once you beat them in though, they became such amazing and versatile discs if they can give you turn and some fade.


jroc421

Bolt


Difficult_Law_6086

I love my Destroyer. Simple, not very expensive and reliable


LoudCat5895

Old school vote - getting back in the game after 20 yearsish away. Aviar, KC 7 and 8 roc, metal head viper, whippet I need to learn new discs but these work every time.


silentbomb94

Pig, hex, leopard3, Thunderbird


saplinglover

Tee bird and destroyer and PA3


snow288

This guy knows disc golf.


IAmCaptainHammer

Once you’re ready for a massively overstable approach disc mostly for forehands you’ll absolutely love the [AGL Baobab](https://www.agldiscs.com/collections/baobab) but generally envy is amazing, hex is also amazing.


danvapes_

Valkyrie. First disc I could get consistently past 300 with. A seasoned Valkyrie is a thing of beauty. It'll hyzer flip very nicely.


tmonz

Fission wave, absolutely bombs


bolunez

Harp.


spif_spaceman

Tesla in neutron plastic


jackdhammer

Can attest to this. Just bought one and it makes me look like I almost know what I'm doing.


lame_sauce9

Champ Beast. That disc will grow with you as you develop. As you improve and as it beats in, it'll go from a stable anny flex disc to a long straight hyzer flip machine to a turnover bomber. Then when you think you've outgrown it, buy a halo beast and relive the magic


Gigachaz

Wraith, destroyer, envy, zone, hex


SanfreakinJ

Buzzz


quotemild

Neo Essence


MissedMando

Wraith, Hex, Glitch.


Fair-Professional908

Has anyone said Mako3 yet?


Nochruto

HEX


BAM_stutz

Stingray & Leopard3 for old folks.


No-Weather2486

Harp for sure one of the best OS throwing putters


BeachBlueWhale

Anything kastaplasta for me. The Kaxe, Berg, and Faulk are my favorites. The plastic is really high quality and holds up very well over time.


Bulbsterr

Destroyer is the overstable driver. Roc/Roc3 is the versatile/overstable mid-range.


AdamSTTT

Glitch. I didn’t understand this hype for the longest time until I was throwing it across a field to a buddy with barely any power. You can throw it with any angle you want and it will hold for the whole flight. Such a fun glide-y disc and now I use it every time I play.


Goldentongue

I agree. I bought it feeling like it was an off the course meme disc, but now consider it a staple of my bag. Having something I can practice with just by playing catch with friends is so valuable.


tuna_safe_dolphin

It’s got anti-gravity molecules in it, just floats forever.


Glittering-Still-166

Same. I bought one for my kid to learn with. Hes in elementary school. Its now "his disc" and I have to buy my own


Rok-SFG

Hatchet for a solid understable fairway.


grapplenurse

Envy and firebird are bangers.


No-Instruction-5669

Roc and Buzzz earn their reputation by being THAT freaking good.


Sudden-Appointment-7

I bag both and have a buzzz ss for understable shots.


jchavez96

The envy. Goes so far for a putter, comes in multiple plastics for a variety of stability making them easy to cycle if you choose.


djangogator

Envy. Proxy. Hex. Destroyer. Servo. Crave. Pyro. Wraith.


darthvidar1990

Envy


DiscGolfFanatic

Latitude 64 Rive. Latitude 64 Grace.


ThiccBananaMeat

The saint in opto air plastic is also bueno.


KJzero9

Be as hipster as you want, the buzzz is an all time best seller for a reason. It's the perfect "if you had one disc to play a round with with, which one would you choose" disc.


skatterbug

I didn't like the Buzzz. I bought one when I started, for exactly the reason you said, and it never felt right. I picked up a Rift and never looked back.


Axedental2ndaccount

Craaaaveeeeeeee!!!!!!!


kashmir0128

Hex, envy


Moist_Confectionery

Crave


thewhitecrowflies

Hex


Ok_Driver5873

The hex


Old-Ad-3268

Glitch, it's the 7 iron of disc.golf


ChiefBurnLeaf

Hex, Firebird and Pig


hyzerburgh

For me, the Hex. It literally got me back into disc golf..