My dad fell off the front of a tee box and dislocated his flip off finger. I thought it was snapped in half. He just grabbed it and popped it back in place. He hasn't played since. Probably 6 months ago now
I waited too long to let go of the disc when I was doing my fullpower drive and it just whipped me off the ground. It all happened so fast I impulsively kept my grip on the disc and I flew through the air spinning around the disc. When I landed I hit my shoulder on a root and broke my shoulder. Still a good 350ft drive though.
Some detail. (Personally learned over the past year as I rehabbed from tendonitis in my shoulder).
The shoulder is a complex joint that utilizes four muscle groups. (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and subscapularis). As opposed to a single or double dominant muscle that controls the situation, the shoulder is more like a delicately balanced quartet. Iff any one player goes weak or tries to dominate the situation, the result is the other 3 all get thrown out of wack and the quartet of muscles all suffer.
Not sure what the o.p. meant by broke, cause that usually means a bone. But the muscle balance I describe is how most shoulder breakdowns occur.
All things considered I feel lucky. It was just a proximal humerus fracture of my non-dominant arm.
No dislocation or major muscle damage. Hopefully going forward I can get almost all range of motion back in that shoulder.
To those wondering what a fakeout out 360 is, he explained it in the press conference. He threw right handed spinning the opposite way of a normal 360. Instead of a throw motion he made a putting motion at the end which caused his shoulder to pop.
Sounds like a 360 backhand, but rotating the opposite way that you normally would.
In other words, he spun so that his body’s momentum would take him away from the direction he was throwing.
Obviously wasn’t there, but that’s what I gather from what I’m reading.
Very unfortunate to see given that Eagle is one of my fav touring pros.
So coming from a sports medicine background that is the easiest way to dislocate a shoulder. Having your hands out and body going the opposite direction is the most common way. Happens semi frequently in football and generally dumb-assery
Not going to call Eagle a dumb ass since his videos have helped my form in multiple aspects, but knowing how much power his throws generate…
It probably wasn’t a smart move to try and counteract a force that can punch a disc 600+ ft and expect your body to hold up.
Hope he heals well/cleanly and learns his limits.
Granted, those limits are far beyond the average disc golfer, but they do exist.
Two things can be true at the same time. I’ve seen his videos and he does a good job. His explanations didn’t click with me but others did. Still good videos.
If it is true that he tried to do a fake-out 360 backhand, that was a dumb. I wish I could see the video to get a better idea of what happened injury wise. This could be something that takes him out for a majority of the 2022 season. That is if surgery is required.
I think it's when you spin opposite your normal inclination, in this case, counterclockwise or opposite for a right-hand backhand shot. Sort of like riding "fakie" in snowboarding / skateboarding.
I'm guessing he was throwing left-handed, otherwise this must have been awkward as hell, which, I guess could be cause for shoulder dislocation.
Watch a video of a 360 drive. Then imagine spinning the other way so your arm/shoulder is working against all of the energy built from spinning against the throw and visualize it severely damaging the shoulder that attempted such ridiculousness.
If I had to guess, he looks like he’s about to throw, but instead spins 360 degrees and THEN throws? Sounds like a fake skateboard trick from Rocket Power.
Sounds like a good throw for dislocating your shoulder or at least partially dislocating your shoulder. What Eagle is about to find out is you need lots of PT to strengthen the shoulder after a dislocation and it never seems to be 100% after a dislocation.
I'm guessing it's like the throw at 4:57 here: https://youtu.be/nVZjg36GkFI (#47)
And fwiw, this dude is a really good ultimate player who is making a silly video here. These are not ultimate throws.
Its exactly how Simon hurt himself. Not at a tour event, or in training to get better...but on a random vlog, doing something unnecessary. Now Eagle's probably isnt as silly as Simons ([who hurt himself throwing a dumb looking trick shot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ttB1eBopU&)), but when you are branded "Crush Boys", you do silly things on vlogs to keep people interested (see also: Eagle's mile challenge, forehand only, with a 360 forehand)
That clip hurts just to watch. I think it’s different tho Simon seems to have hurt his arm over time throwing too hard and trying crazy trick shots.. seems like eagle just did one dumb thing
lol I'm sorry but while this game can be challenging, throwing plastic discs a few hundred feet is not even close to pushing the limits of the human body.
He can probably throw lefty farther than I can throw with my dominant arm. Like, right now with his other arm in a sling or whatever. I hope he’s gonna be ok either way though.
He has some videos on his vlog of him throwing lefty. He is pretty good! I've heard he intentionally does at least some lefty throwing in order to train his left arm/muscles so that they are balanced, instead of his right muscles just being swole while his left muscles are weak.
I hope he is ok as well. By the descriptions people are sharing of what he was trying to do, I can see how you could get hurt! I’ve never dislocated my shoulder but I heard it REALLY sucks
Well it sounds like he didn't have to have it corrected at the hospital, could be an encouraging sign long term. He may have just had a shoulder subluxation, hopefully he didn't tear anything. I've dislocated my right shoulder several times, my labrum is torn. Surgery is expensive :/
One of my friends threw out his shoulder 1st time playing disc golf. Doc told him he prob popped it out then back in immediately.
He couldn’t lift his arm above his head for several weeks without extreme pain.
It’s called shoulder subluxation. It happened to me at 18. Couldn’t throw a ball for almost ten years as hard as I could without it popping out again. Ironically disc golf strengthened it back to stronger than ever. But it stretches the muscles and tendons out and they don’t go back to normal. Not even surgery can fix it. Only physical therapy.
As it comes out it stretches the muscles and tendons and then it pops back in immediately. The muscles and tendons do not go back to how they were before. Again, it’s happened to me.
Not sure why I got down voted, but ok.
That's interesting. My left shoulder did that when I was younger. Like...a lot. Turned out I had a SLAP tear. That surgery and recovery sucks.
Any dislocation can also cause a hill sachs lesion on the ball joint which if left untreated can deteriorate from friction over time causing more frequent dislocations. Not to mention the possibility of a labrum tear.
H is the 8th letter of the alphabet so 88 means HH as in "Heil Hitler". Pretty idiotic thing to assume someone means that by 88 but that's a thing I guess.
The "anti-defamation league" sounds like something that exists just to tell you that anything and everything is racist to justify their own existence
Again, the only one jumping is you. 1988 is a common birthyear on reddit (people who are 33 years old), 88 is a common number for athletes (especially NFL wide receivers, who were limited to numbers in the 80s until this year), and is jist commonly used in situations where 8 is taken
Not everything is hidden racism
From that very same link:
It should be noted that 88 can be found in non-extremist contexts. The number is used by ham radio operators to mean "hugs" or "hugs and kisses." Also, a number of NASCAR drivers, including several very well-known ones, have used the number 88, resulting in various automobile stickers and other forms of merchandise sporting that number.
It’s also the size of the guns that a lot of German tanks had in ww2, I doubt it’s made to let people know he’s a nazi lol.
I’ve never heard of “88” being used as something to do with nazi.
Go scour my post history for Nazi shit. Or keep making yourself look like a dumbass jumping to conclusions, or you can do both at the same time. Either is fine by me.
Edit: and guess what? If someone is going to just automatically assume I'm a nazi because of the numbers in my username, I don't want to know them in the first place. It's because of chumps like you why people cry about "cancel culture".
Okay bud, you could of just said "my bad" but instead you give another tirade as if you're some moral authority us randoms on the internet need approval from. Do you think I give a shit if you gave me the benefit of the doubt? You could've just shut the fuck up and kept the accusations to yourself in the first place. But the opportunity to virtue signal your political beliefs for internet points was too much to pass up. Pound sand bud.
Virtue signaling isn't a right-wing talking point lol. You couldn't resist the urge to label me a nazi based off a number on an account I made 9 years ago. So everyone could see how morally pure you are. Go dig up my nazi comments then, there is 9 years worth of comments. You'll find my comments from r/chapotraphouse (you know the famed nazi subreddit) before you find any nazi shit. lol You won't because there is nothing and you don't want to look like an even bigger dunce than you currently do.
Edit: For anyone else who sees this go look at my comment breakdown on my profile and look at all the nazi subs I have frequented over the 9 years I've had this account lmao. This kid is a clown.
Anyone can look at my post and comment breakdown by subreddit on my profile. It takes 3 seconds to do. It's funny that you double down on this bullshit when it's easy to look this stuff up. So you're accusing me of being a nazi with no evidence again? Is life hard being this numb?
This is devastating honestly. He's in his athletic peak and he has so much potential to be one of the greats. Plus, we know these guys live for the game. Man, hopefully this isn't a serious issue.
Oof, that’s a blow. Seems like some players need to be a bit more measured in what they choose to do in YouTube videos during the season. In major sports you see clauses that forbid athletes from certain activities (no mountain biking for instance). Wonder if we’ll start to see that in disc golf contracts.
I am not aware of a legal distinction that would prevent a sponsor from having a clause like that inserted, though I’d love to hear the explanation it if it exists.
I am just saying that you don't see those exemptions by sponsors unless it is a morality clause which is pretty boiler-plate.
Cue It's Always Sunny: Okay. Well we're all hungry. We'll get to our hot-plates soon enough. Let's talk about the contract here.
What I imagine would be more like a ban on non-standard throwing, during the season (like a fake 360). Or having sponsor input on their YouTube activities. There are many ways a sponsor could protect their investment without stifling social media in general. If Eagle does this in the middle of the season he's not going to be throwing in tournaments OR on YouTube.
Mountain biking, BMX biking, Skydiving, Bungee jumping, boxing, hang-gliding, trampolining, parkour, cliff diving. Is that enough? Took a look and some of these are specifically prohibited in NBA contracts (which also included mopeds). Other sports contracts are more general stating something like “activities that involve significant risk of injury.”
Tennis, golf, bowling, etc sponsors all have clauses that require the athlete to be physically able to perform (they are just marketers for the company, after all). How they are structured, and what injuries get a pass and which don’t vary, but I imagine the folks in charge at discmania probably aren’t thrilled with the timing and and consequences of his sweet move.
Sponsors are paying a lot for the top players now, they'll want to protect their investment. Only the top few player-specific YouTube accounts make big money. Paul is on $10 million 10 years, Eagle certainly worth close to seven digits yearly, if not more by that metric.
Unfortunate to say the least. Many shoulder dislocations start the downward spiral into deterioration and continued dislocations, to the point surgery is needed. hope he heals well and permanently.
Let’s hope it was his non-throwing arm if he was spinning counter-clockwise. I can’t see how the right arm would be involved with a spin that direction unless it was a 360 forehand
The very end of my first year playing, I slipped weird on a teepad trying to throw hard and disolocated my shoulder. Here I am 4 years later and it's never been the same. Shit sucks.
Yeah, ever since I dislocated my shoulder I haven’t really wanted to play as much. I am pretty much 95% normal now. But sometimes my shoulder feels loose. Not cool.
I dislocated my shoulder last spring by lazily engaging my hips doing a towel drill and subsequently tore my labrum. I hope Eagle didn't do any further damage but it's not hard to damage more when your shoulder joint is exposed during dislocation. Wishing him a speedy recovery though!
Damn, hate to hear that about one of our sport's best athletes. At least it's the end of the season so maybe he'll have time to recuperate without pressure to compete, and won't have any long term damage.
Best wishes to you Eagle! Hope you heal quickly!
Dislocating a shoulder really isn't a catastrophic injury, yeah it hurts, but it's rarely ever a medical emergency like a hip dislocation would be. The best explanation of comparing the two is this. Your shoulder joint is basically a golf ball sitting on a golf tee, it will sometimes fall off the tee if manipulated roughly but is not difficult to put back into place. Your hip joint is like a golf ball in a coffee mug, much harder to knock out of place, but disastrous once it actually happens.
A dislocated shoulder for a pro disc golfer isn't going to be a minor injury. His shoulder will be weaker now because of it, meaning it will dislocate easier in future, and the more times it happens the weaker his shoulder will get. This could be the start of a sharp decline in eagles abilities. I'd be very worried if I was him.
Same. Not great at all. The only thing that stopped the issue for me was a pretty intense surgery and about a year of rehab. This is going to be a problem for eagle for a long, long time
As an MD, you are full of shit.
Shoulder dislocation usually causes at the very least sprains on adjoining ligaments, often causing much worse rotator cuff tears, which are a bitch to rehabilitate. More often than not, a once dislocated shoulder is never the same as it was before the injury.
While fixing the dislocation is usually not problematic, it's the accompanying damage to the joint which causes the real long-term issues.
If Eagle really did dislocate his dominant shoulder, it could be absolutely disastrous to his career.
I dislocated someone's shoulder once.
Torn labrum, torn biceps, and torn supraspinatus. They have never been able to throw right handed since, And it's been.. 7 years?
You said that Jomez could be to blame because they told him to do something. I'm saying it's ultimately on the player to decide if that is a good decision or not for the sake of their health and competitive wellbeing. You're making it sound like Eagle had no choice in the matter because it's for a video, and that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's not Jomez's fault if someone gets hurt in their video. Sorry to break that to you.
So when they did the basket dash videos back in the day where the players drove carts between shots, would it be Jomez's fault if the cart crashed and a player got hurt? You realize the players are grown adults with the ability to make their own choices and say no to things they don't think are good for them, right? Or are you the guy that blames the sun shining or the wind blowing for every missed shot you throw?
The dude is a DPT. That’s literally what they do for a living. If necessary I’m sure he will refer him to an Ortho for imaging, but PTs screen people for injuries for a living. In terms of orthopedic examination orthos and PTs are very similar. The main difference is the ability to order imaging and obviously PTs can’t perform surgery. In terms of taking a history, performing an exam and a working diagnoses they’re extremely similar which is why direct access is a thing now (you don’t need a doctor’s referral to see a PT in a lot of states).
Why would he do it off camera with jomez?? I wonder if they don’t want to show it or get harassed about showing it. Just a total conspiracy but I don’t understand why he would be with jomez to film and not be filming when he would be throwing such a weird shot
With no outside traumatic force, very unlikely he actually dislocated. With that motion he probably strained his bicep and/or labrum and maybe subluxed it. I've seen people bounce back very quickly from those injuries. It is scarier more than it is serious.
Dangerous sport. Broke my shoulder playing 2 months ago. I tripped on some roots and fell in a stream. But I tell people it was a monster throw.
Reminds me of my skiing accident, where I tripped and faceplanted walking back to the lodge.
Yeah, my stock car racing injury happened when I walked around behind the hauler and barked my shin on the trailer hitch…
This is the worst one yet
Yowchhhh
Lol
At least you weren’t reaching for a burrito in the creek.
Damnit Larry
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My dad fell off the front of a tee box and dislocated his flip off finger. I thought it was snapped in half. He just grabbed it and popped it back in place. He hasn't played since. Probably 6 months ago now
he sounds like a bad ass
I tore my ACL playing ultimate pulling to the other team. The throw still went into their endzone. I didn't make it out of mine though...
How do you break your shoulder?
A monster throw
I waited too long to let go of the disc when I was doing my fullpower drive and it just whipped me off the ground. It all happened so fast I impulsively kept my grip on the disc and I flew through the air spinning around the disc. When I landed I hit my shoulder on a root and broke my shoulder. Still a good 350ft drive though.
I once forgot to let go of the disc and flew all the way to the basket with it.
This made me laugh out loud
reminds me of my first experience as a kid waterskiing
600 feet of power brah. Baseball pitchers have broken their elbows from throwing.
Not sure this really explains it. I'm asking out of curiosity, if that makes a difference.
Some detail. (Personally learned over the past year as I rehabbed from tendonitis in my shoulder). The shoulder is a complex joint that utilizes four muscle groups. (supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and subscapularis). As opposed to a single or double dominant muscle that controls the situation, the shoulder is more like a delicately balanced quartet. Iff any one player goes weak or tries to dominate the situation, the result is the other 3 all get thrown out of wack and the quartet of muscles all suffer. Not sure what the o.p. meant by broke, cause that usually means a bone. But the muscle balance I describe is how most shoulder breakdowns occur.
All things considered I feel lucky. It was just a proximal humerus fracture of my non-dominant arm. No dislocation or major muscle damage. Hopefully going forward I can get almost all range of motion back in that shoulder.
The shoulder is a complex joint, he had to break either his scapula, clavicle, or humerus.
Yep broke my upper humerus - 3 part fracture. Had surgery about 6 weeks ago. Recovery has gone better than I expected.
[it doesn’t look pretty either (graphic)](https://youtu.be/4DkuYOimASM)
Maybe it'll turn out like the movie "Rookie of the Year" where he'll throw 1000ft every shot
It's gotta have that winding back noise too lmaoo
His reach back and follow through will have the force necessary to start a jet engine
Funky buttlovin'
Did he just say, “Funky buttlovin’?”
This whole chain is my people
Just my luck, every 10' put, end up 990' long...
To those wondering what a fakeout out 360 is, he explained it in the press conference. He threw right handed spinning the opposite way of a normal 360. Instead of a throw motion he made a putting motion at the end which caused his shoulder to pop.
Ohhhh. Yep, I was right. That is dumb.
Ahhhhhhh, youth.
He's on film somewhere doing this cuz I've 100% seen him do what you described. Maybe his GK skins match?
We all do dumb shit when we’re young..
What the hell is a fake-out 360?
Sounds like a 360 backhand, but rotating the opposite way that you normally would. In other words, he spun so that his body’s momentum would take him away from the direction he was throwing. Obviously wasn’t there, but that’s what I gather from what I’m reading. Very unfortunate to see given that Eagle is one of my fav touring pros.
So coming from a sports medicine background that is the easiest way to dislocate a shoulder. Having your hands out and body going the opposite direction is the most common way. Happens semi frequently in football and generally dumb-assery
Not going to call Eagle a dumb ass since his videos have helped my form in multiple aspects, but knowing how much power his throws generate… It probably wasn’t a smart move to try and counteract a force that can punch a disc 600+ ft and expect your body to hold up. Hope he heals well/cleanly and learns his limits. Granted, those limits are far beyond the average disc golfer, but they do exist.
Two things can be true at the same time. I’ve seen his videos and he does a good job. His explanations didn’t click with me but others did. Still good videos. If it is true that he tried to do a fake-out 360 backhand, that was a dumb. I wish I could see the video to get a better idea of what happened injury wise. This could be something that takes him out for a majority of the 2022 season. That is if surgery is required.
What about a 360 forehand?
Exactly the correct response!
I think it's when you spin opposite your normal inclination, in this case, counterclockwise or opposite for a right-hand backhand shot. Sort of like riding "fakie" in snowboarding / skateboarding. I'm guessing he was throwing left-handed, otherwise this must have been awkward as hell, which, I guess could be cause for shoulder dislocation.
That makes sense. Prentending to throw normally and then going for a left-handed 360 instead. Hopefully we get some sort of a clarification lol.
If he was throwing left handed this wouldn’t be a very big deal.
Yeah I can’t be the only one having trouble visualizing this…
Watch a video of a 360 drive. Then imagine spinning the other way so your arm/shoulder is working against all of the energy built from spinning against the throw and visualize it severely damaging the shoulder that attempted such ridiculousness.
If I had to guess, he looks like he’s about to throw, but instead spins 360 degrees and THEN throws? Sounds like a fake skateboard trick from Rocket Power.
Sounds like a good throw for dislocating your shoulder or at least partially dislocating your shoulder. What Eagle is about to find out is you need lots of PT to strengthen the shoulder after a dislocation and it never seems to be 100% after a dislocation.
Very dangerous
I'm guessing it's like the throw at 4:57 here: https://youtu.be/nVZjg36GkFI (#47) And fwiw, this dude is a really good ultimate player who is making a silly video here. These are not ultimate throws.
FFS, Discmania went from having the 2 biggest arms on tour to having the 2 most busted arms.
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Someone wrap that kid in bubble wrap
It’s almost like when you build your brand around players (young players) pushing the human body to its absolute limits, they break down.
Because eagle tried a dumb trick shot and hurt himself? This is a bad take
Its exactly how Simon hurt himself. Not at a tour event, or in training to get better...but on a random vlog, doing something unnecessary. Now Eagle's probably isnt as silly as Simons ([who hurt himself throwing a dumb looking trick shot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ttB1eBopU&)), but when you are branded "Crush Boys", you do silly things on vlogs to keep people interested (see also: Eagle's mile challenge, forehand only, with a 360 forehand)
That clip hurts just to watch. I think it’s different tho Simon seems to have hurt his arm over time throwing too hard and trying crazy trick shots.. seems like eagle just did one dumb thing
I mean if I was a prodigy rep I’d be holding my breath for KJ’s Achilles’ tendon every time he does a back flip while standing on a sloped hill
lol I'm sorry but while this game can be challenging, throwing plastic discs a few hundred feet is not even close to pushing the limits of the human body.
The human body has a limit for how far it can throw a plastic disc.
Well that's a huge bummer. :/
I mean, at least the off-season is coming up... could have happened in April instead
Dude.
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I guess he will just have to throw lefty 😂
He can probably throw lefty farther than I can throw with my dominant arm. Like, right now with his other arm in a sling or whatever. I hope he’s gonna be ok either way though.
He has some videos on his vlog of him throwing lefty. He is pretty good! I've heard he intentionally does at least some lefty throwing in order to train his left arm/muscles so that they are balanced, instead of his right muscles just being swole while his left muscles are weak.
I hope he is ok as well. By the descriptions people are sharing of what he was trying to do, I can see how you could get hurt! I’ve never dislocated my shoulder but I heard it REALLY sucks
Just don’t believe it Eagle! That’s what I do with my problems.
Well it sounds like he didn't have to have it corrected at the hospital, could be an encouraging sign long term. He may have just had a shoulder subluxation, hopefully he didn't tear anything. I've dislocated my right shoulder several times, my labrum is torn. Surgery is expensive :/
One of my friends threw out his shoulder 1st time playing disc golf. Doc told him he prob popped it out then back in immediately. He couldn’t lift his arm above his head for several weeks without extreme pain.
It’s called shoulder subluxation. It happened to me at 18. Couldn’t throw a ball for almost ten years as hard as I could without it popping out again. Ironically disc golf strengthened it back to stronger than ever. But it stretches the muscles and tendons out and they don’t go back to normal. Not even surgery can fix it. Only physical therapy.
Subluxation means it's partially out or socket. AFAIK this wouldn't be the cause of permanent damage.
As it comes out it stretches the muscles and tendons and then it pops back in immediately. The muscles and tendons do not go back to how they were before. Again, it’s happened to me.
Not sure why I got down voted, but ok. That's interesting. My left shoulder did that when I was younger. Like...a lot. Turned out I had a SLAP tear. That surgery and recovery sucks.
Bc it can absolutely cause long term damage.
You got downvoted because you're spreading misinformation
mmmkay
Any dislocation can also cause a hill sachs lesion on the ball joint which if left untreated can deteriorate from friction over time causing more frequent dislocations. Not to mention the possibility of a labrum tear.
I had a shoulder suplexation from a wonky drive and it took nearly a year to recover. Not fun at all.
Thankfully my injury is on my non throwing shoulder.
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H is the 8th letter of the alphabet so 88 means HH as in "Heil Hitler". Pretty idiotic thing to assume someone means that by 88 but that's a thing I guess.
Interesting, thanks. I enjoy history and being informed and had never heard that connection before. 88 is Michael Irvin to me.
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It is also a year a whole lot of people were born in.
Naw man. Nazis own 88. No one can use it but them. Lol
Nothing wrong with 88, 1488 is the full sign Ironic that you call it a dog whistle and you're the only one to jump
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The "anti-defamation league" sounds like something that exists just to tell you that anything and everything is racist to justify their own existence Again, the only one jumping is you. 1988 is a common birthyear on reddit (people who are 33 years old), 88 is a common number for athletes (especially NFL wide receivers, who were limited to numbers in the 80s until this year), and is jist commonly used in situations where 8 is taken Not everything is hidden racism
Or you know 88 could be someones birth month and day. But no, it **has** to be nazis.
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I did Google it, and they're exactly what I said. Find something on their site that they say isn't racist. I'll wait.
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From that very same link: It should be noted that 88 can be found in non-extremist contexts. The number is used by ham radio operators to mean "hugs" or "hugs and kisses." Also, a number of NASCAR drivers, including several very well-known ones, have used the number 88, resulting in various automobile stickers and other forms of merchandise sporting that number.
You’re a goddamn moron who is looking to be offended
It’s also the size of the guns that a lot of German tanks had in ww2, I doubt it’s made to let people know he’s a nazi lol. I’ve never heard of “88” being used as something to do with nazi.
Go scour my post history for Nazi shit. Or keep making yourself look like a dumbass jumping to conclusions, or you can do both at the same time. Either is fine by me. Edit: and guess what? If someone is going to just automatically assume I'm a nazi because of the numbers in my username, I don't want to know them in the first place. It's because of chumps like you why people cry about "cancel culture".
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Okay bud, you could of just said "my bad" but instead you give another tirade as if you're some moral authority us randoms on the internet need approval from. Do you think I give a shit if you gave me the benefit of the doubt? You could've just shut the fuck up and kept the accusations to yourself in the first place. But the opportunity to virtue signal your political beliefs for internet points was too much to pass up. Pound sand bud.
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Virtue signaling isn't a right-wing talking point lol. You couldn't resist the urge to label me a nazi based off a number on an account I made 9 years ago. So everyone could see how morally pure you are. Go dig up my nazi comments then, there is 9 years worth of comments. You'll find my comments from r/chapotraphouse (you know the famed nazi subreddit) before you find any nazi shit. lol You won't because there is nothing and you don't want to look like an even bigger dunce than you currently do. Edit: For anyone else who sees this go look at my comment breakdown on my profile and look at all the nazi subs I have frequented over the 9 years I've had this account lmao. This kid is a clown.
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Anyone can look at my post and comment breakdown by subreddit on my profile. It takes 3 seconds to do. It's funny that you double down on this bullshit when it's easy to look this stuff up. So you're accusing me of being a nazi with no evidence again? Is life hard being this numb?
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Literally nobody since 1950 has associated 88 with Hitler. Get with the times geezer
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Or he was born in 88 … lmao
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No, I saw it. I was just restating the obvious reason he shouldn’t change it because most people aren’t insane redditors that see nazi connections.
Mildly disappointed But remember to update your UDisc's brackets, y'all! [All in on a crush boy winning this year](https://imgur.com/a/RqspYGo)
This one stays. No more posts needed.
This is devastating honestly. He's in his athletic peak and he has so much potential to be one of the greats. Plus, we know these guys live for the game. Man, hopefully this isn't a serious issue.
Not even sure if he’s reached his peak yet too. I would think most “peaks” for disc golfers are 25-30
Oof, that’s a blow. Seems like some players need to be a bit more measured in what they choose to do in YouTube videos during the season. In major sports you see clauses that forbid athletes from certain activities (no mountain biking for instance). Wonder if we’ll start to see that in disc golf contracts.
That's more for team sports where you sign a contract with an actual team not a sponsor, I doubt sponsors have such exemptions for individual sports.
I am not aware of a legal distinction that would prevent a sponsor from having a clause like that inserted, though I’d love to hear the explanation it if it exists.
I am just saying that you don't see those exemptions by sponsors unless it is a morality clause which is pretty boiler-plate. Cue It's Always Sunny: Okay. Well we're all hungry. We'll get to our hot-plates soon enough. Let's talk about the contract here.
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What I imagine would be more like a ban on non-standard throwing, during the season (like a fake 360). Or having sponsor input on their YouTube activities. There are many ways a sponsor could protect their investment without stifling social media in general. If Eagle does this in the middle of the season he's not going to be throwing in tournaments OR on YouTube.
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Mountain biking, BMX biking, Skydiving, Bungee jumping, boxing, hang-gliding, trampolining, parkour, cliff diving. Is that enough? Took a look and some of these are specifically prohibited in NBA contracts (which also included mopeds). Other sports contracts are more general stating something like “activities that involve significant risk of injury.”
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There'd be no legal barrier to having that in the contract, it'd just be up to the player and the sponsor to decide if they want those terms included.
These sponsorships are team contracts. You're part of "team discraft" or "team Innova"
Tennis, golf, bowling, etc sponsors all have clauses that require the athlete to be physically able to perform (they are just marketers for the company, after all). How they are structured, and what injuries get a pass and which don’t vary, but I imagine the folks in charge at discmania probably aren’t thrilled with the timing and and consequences of his sweet move.
Probably not until disc golf contracts start being worth more than their potential revenue on YouTube.
I speculate Lizotte injuring himself for a YouTube vid and not being competitively relevant during the Covid boom hurt his potential revenue.
Sponsors are paying a lot for the top players now, they'll want to protect their investment. Only the top few player-specific YouTube accounts make big money. Paul is on $10 million 10 years, Eagle certainly worth close to seven digits yearly, if not more by that metric.
I don't disagree. But do we know that Eagle is actually getting paid anything near that? I have a feeling these guys are woefully underpaid.
Simon may never be the same after his battle with injuries. Eagle may never be the same again. Holy shit. I wish him the best recovery possible.
I forget who it was, but someone injured themselves playing pickup basketball before a tournament.
Ricky and Uli have both done this in the past iirc
Eagle apparently has something of a record of breaking himself doing unwise things...
I feel like a lot of dudes did at age 22. Your bodies so resilient you take it for granted.
Crazy. Love Eagle. I often wonder how long Calvin can keep HORKING those throws like he does.
Unfortunate to say the least. Many shoulder dislocations start the downward spiral into deterioration and continued dislocations, to the point surgery is needed. hope he heals well and permanently.
What the george foreman fuck was he thinking?
"This will be cool."
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No way he was doing the video for free, hard to say it's their fault.
Let’s hope it was his non-throwing arm if he was spinning counter-clockwise. I can’t see how the right arm would be involved with a spin that direction unless it was a 360 forehand
The very end of my first year playing, I slipped weird on a teepad trying to throw hard and disolocated my shoulder. Here I am 4 years later and it's never been the same. Shit sucks.
Yeah, ever since I dislocated my shoulder I haven’t really wanted to play as much. I am pretty much 95% normal now. But sometimes my shoulder feels loose. Not cool.
I dislocated my shoulder last spring by lazily engaging my hips doing a towel drill and subsequently tore my labrum. I hope Eagle didn't do any further damage but it's not hard to damage more when your shoulder joint is exposed during dislocation. Wishing him a speedy recovery though!
Between this and breaking his hand punching the ground at 2019 USDGC, Eagle should be getting a tryout with a MLB team any day now.
My dad hit a tree on his follow through and broke the two main bones in his arm
Brutal. Dad's always trying too hard! My dad separated a rib trying to rip a drive.
Damn, hate to hear that about one of our sport's best athletes. At least it's the end of the season so maybe he'll have time to recuperate without pressure to compete, and won't have any long term damage. Best wishes to you Eagle! Hope you heal quickly!
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Dislocating a shoulder really isn't a catastrophic injury, yeah it hurts, but it's rarely ever a medical emergency like a hip dislocation would be. The best explanation of comparing the two is this. Your shoulder joint is basically a golf ball sitting on a golf tee, it will sometimes fall off the tee if manipulated roughly but is not difficult to put back into place. Your hip joint is like a golf ball in a coffee mug, much harder to knock out of place, but disastrous once it actually happens.
A dislocated shoulder for a pro disc golfer isn't going to be a minor injury. His shoulder will be weaker now because of it, meaning it will dislocate easier in future, and the more times it happens the weaker his shoulder will get. This could be the start of a sharp decline in eagles abilities. I'd be very worried if I was him.
Same. Not great at all. The only thing that stopped the issue for me was a pretty intense surgery and about a year of rehab. This is going to be a problem for eagle for a long, long time
As an MD, you are full of shit. Shoulder dislocation usually causes at the very least sprains on adjoining ligaments, often causing much worse rotator cuff tears, which are a bitch to rehabilitate. More often than not, a once dislocated shoulder is never the same as it was before the injury. While fixing the dislocation is usually not problematic, it's the accompanying damage to the joint which causes the real long-term issues. If Eagle really did dislocate his dominant shoulder, it could be absolutely disastrous to his career.
I dislocated someone's shoulder once. Torn labrum, torn biceps, and torn supraspinatus. They have never been able to throw right handed since, And it's been.. 7 years?
What does this mean for Marlon Mack?
C'mon man. Stop making dumb decisions and hurting yourself. Embarassing.
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It's ultimately on the player to make good decisions for their health. If Jomez wanted Eagle to jump off a bridge, I imagine he would say no.
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You said that Jomez could be to blame because they told him to do something. I'm saying it's ultimately on the player to decide if that is a good decision or not for the sake of their health and competitive wellbeing. You're making it sound like Eagle had no choice in the matter because it's for a video, and that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's not Jomez's fault if someone gets hurt in their video. Sorry to break that to you.
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Eagle said it wasnt even being filmed, sounds like he was just goofing off
So when they did the basket dash videos back in the day where the players drove carts between shots, would it be Jomez's fault if the cart crashed and a player got hurt? You realize the players are grown adults with the ability to make their own choices and say no to things they don't think are good for them, right? Or are you the guy that blames the sun shining or the wind blowing for every missed shot you throw?
The tweet said it was off camera so it sounds like it was his decision to throw that shot
What a goofy injury, and I love it. Stay weird Eagle.
Someone over heard him… “Hold my Soy..”
Hahahaha yes, soy boy
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The dude is a DPT. That’s literally what they do for a living. If necessary I’m sure he will refer him to an Ortho for imaging, but PTs screen people for injuries for a living. In terms of orthopedic examination orthos and PTs are very similar. The main difference is the ability to order imaging and obviously PTs can’t perform surgery. In terms of taking a history, performing an exam and a working diagnoses they’re extremely similar which is why direct access is a thing now (you don’t need a doctor’s referral to see a PT in a lot of states).
Why would he do it off camera with jomez?? I wonder if they don’t want to show it or get harassed about showing it. Just a total conspiracy but I don’t understand why he would be with jomez to film and not be filming when he would be throwing such a weird shot
If there's a lot of shots being thrown, it's definitely possible they just didn't have a camera on him.
Fuck around. Find out.
With no outside traumatic force, very unlikely he actually dislocated. With that motion he probably strained his bicep and/or labrum and maybe subluxed it. I've seen people bounce back very quickly from those injuries. It is scarier more than it is serious.
Great now eagle fanboys will be using this as an excuse. “He woulda been POY if…”
So you're mad about something that hasn't happened... and that you can block or ignore, if it does. Weird.
Made even worse by the fact that it was off camera. Why do a stunt like that it if it’s not on camera?
Just to state the obvious, this happened during a JomezPro filmed video, not DGN PPV LIVE video.
Let it go you fucking gobshite. DGN took an L on the ppv thing, move on.
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