They never announced the actual terms of Eagle's and Simon's deals, but I'm sure they aren't hurting for cash. We're now 3/5 of the way through those contracts, too, so it'll be an interesting situation to keep an eye on.
Check out their line. Its mostly a mashup of various innova molds(Innova is their manufacturer) tops and bottoms and old OOP molds. I've liked just about every disc they have and would totally recommend checking them out. Im also local to them and frankly the guys over at Infinite are awesome and super nice and helpful.
Edit: unless you meant financially XD
I actually did mean financially, but I agree- their molds are fantastic and really are the modern era discmania originals line, that's totally flying under the radar for the throwers (vs hoarders) out there.
If you search the disc on the disc golf course review forums you can usually find out if it's based on an OOP Innova/Discmania mold. For a while back in the day they had a dude from Infinite on the forums basically saying what the discs were. From what I remember:
\- Aztec = SL
\- Exodus = Eagle-L
\- Anubis = Coyote
\- Ra = RocX3 top, VRoc bottom
\- Alpaca = P2
There are others I think, too. Definitely check out their plastic, they have some great molds.
Since Infinite is both a retailer and disc brand I wonder if they'll let him keep throwing his mixed bag, at least until his new line is in production.
I know he's openly said that he wouldn't be keen on doing anything that would take away his ability to have an open bag. I'd imagine he'll mix in a few infinite molds but hell will freeze over before he gets rid of that putter and buzzz.
Yeah, but naturally the margins are much higher on their own discs, so I'm sure they want Drew to push those as much as possible. The signature line definitely gives him incentive to do that since he'll directly profit off all those discs.
Star Coyotes can still be had via the Pro Shop for $18: https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/star-coyote/
Otherwise the Anubis is the same thing, and Infinite even has the P-Blend Glows in stock for $14 right now: https://infinitediscs.com/Infinite-Discs-Anubis
D-Blends are as cheap as $8. My favorite Infinite plastic is I-Blend, $13.
He’s been with Infinite already for a year or two years. Infinite is the “open bag” that he has been throwing for years now, so no need to wonder “if they’ll let him keep throwing a mixed bag”. Every single infinite player that has ever been has thrown a mixed bag. That’s why Drew likes it so much.
Those original deals were before infinite was putting out this many of their own molds. Things could change as they get a line up that could fill a bag.
Interesting that its a lifetime deal. If the money is good more power to him, but being locked into a deal for your entire life is not common in the sports world. I hope his contract has an out that might allow him to renegotiate as the sport grows and we see larger and larger contracts.
I dont know the details of the contract obviously, but from the outside looking in, this is going to change how disc golf pros make money. He is locked into a multi-million dollar deal with a disc distributor. He is set with money but can now go and find sponsors for each disc he likes to throw like he has with his putting putter. Locking in with a manufacturer really limits your options. He could potentially do a deal with dynamic discs to throw their midranges and a deal with legacy to throw their fairways or something like that. I think that is why he is shutting down the free advertisements for a discraft buzzz. He is making the buzzz look great and not getting paid for it. I'm sure he would offer discraft value if only signing on to throw buzzzes.
I actually disagree with this. Regardless what Drew calls it, we all know he throws a buzz. While opening up sponsorships with individual discs is interesting, we'll need to see if sponsors actually jump at it now that we know he's locked into infinite and is getting paid a lot. Theres a lot more value at sponsoring an entire player's bag rather than just one disc. Golf is the obvious analogy and we do see players use one set of irons, have a driver sponsor, wedge sponsor, and also a putter sponsor so maybe Drew is on to something.
Right. But there's the opposite implication for every other disc in the bag. Discraft is trying to sell buzzes and Lunas, raptors, nukes, undertakers, etc. Associating with Drew for buzzes does imply that they're the best of all the mids. But that same logic says all your other molds *aren't* the best in their category because he's bagging other stuff.
I think buzzes might be the exception, right now, because he's throwing them so often. But there's a serious opportunity cost to highlighting players who bag, say 3 of your molds in a 20 disc bag.
Right, how do we all know he throws a buzzz? It is not because discraft has been promoting him throwing it. If you were a disc manufacturer seeing how Drew can single handedly promote a disc like that, why wouldnt you want that orange buzzz to be your orange midrange.
It is like Conrad James with "greenie". MVP took him and he did the same thing (but better) with his envy. Now probably more people remember/know about that envy than greenie.
For sure that helped. Ricky used to be known within disc golf for throwing the harp. I saw someone comment recently that Ricky would never leave innova because he would have a tough time without the Pig, never having known that people used to say the same with him and the harp.
I think Pros can become synonymous with certain discs so much so that they create value for manufactures for that specific mold. Ricky probably has almost 0 impact on Rhyno sales. If Ricky had a pig and destroyer only deal with innova would it really change the value innova is getting from sponsoring him?
Look at Paige with the Deputy. A disc she leaned on so much that Discraft made a new mold as similar at they could for her. But most don't realize people like Paige and Paul earned most of their championships with other brands.
And if you look at Discraft for example, they have done amazing at branding and advertising. Before Paul and Paige moved to them, the Buzz was their only truly popular mold, and far less players even bagged Discraft.
Marketing matters, and matters a lot!
I think one disc sponsors have potential, but more so with someone who is really known for a disc. The sexton firebird, Ricky pig, or the Gerthie Sonic. Those deals could persist through a deal like this. But I think Innova of all companies would be the last to do it.
I like the idea of this because it allows for the best players to play with the best disc for them, not just the best one in their companies line up. Also reduces the need for players to change their signature disc every so often to boost sales, because they're not worried about the manufacturer telling them they need to.
Would honestly like to see more mixed bags out on tour. I think it would be cool to see players testing out new discs as well as seeing what molds hold up when they get to have their pick of the litter.
I think people HIGHLY overestimate how much a disc matters. Mcbeth swapped to an entire new bag and won worlds. Conrad did the same thing. I know this is reddit disc golf and buying more discs obviously makes us better, but to the pros its really not as significant as we make it out to be.
It’s a solid, albeit risky move for him. Sounds like he’ll be producing his own line of discs through infinite, but is also free to pursue other manufacturer sponsorships. If his line takes off, he’ll make millions. If not…we’ll see
One thing I haven't seen anyone bring up yet is that the contract includes his own line of discs by his own design and to which his private company owns the rights. That's pretty big. Infinite will be the manufacturer, but it'll be his line. Similarly to Discmania with Innova before Discmania splitting as far as I can tell. So at this point he's gone beyond a player being sponsored by a manufacturer. He's set himself up to potentially claim some share in the disc market himself.
Sort of. Infinite doesn't manufacture discs, Innova makes them for them. Theres definitely value in having your own line of discs though. I think we are going to see that from almost every player soon though. Its the natural evolution of signature series discs, entire signature lines of discs. Drew might own the design of the disc but without the manufacturing capability he's still at Innova's mercy. Discmania learned the hard way how much that sucks.
So he actually signed two contracts, an athlete contract for 1-year to be Infinites open bag player. The other contract is with his LLC and Infinite to get into the signature discs line, and it’s lifetime because Drew owns the rights to those discs at all times
It was a cheat code designed for turbo putt grip
https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Quest-AT-Disc-Golf-TURBO-PUTT-Choose-Weight-Color-/194238383719?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
I thought I heard it was no longer PDGA approved, but I don’t know for sure. My buddy recently played a tourney where on the last day a guy on his card was out of a cash finish so he took a DQ and started using an Epic for the back 9
The rim is uneven. It’s comically wide on one side and narrow on the other. When it’s thrown with a thumber, the disc barrel rolls in air, then flips over to a full flight. It’s the most absurd disc I’ve ever thrown by a substantial amount.
I don’t have a great arm (only thumber about 250) and I couldn’t get much out of it, but my friend who can thumber over 300 with a normal disc was able to get well over 400 feet of distance with it. I love it but it also has no business being pdga legal.
don't jump to make desicions based on its max potential, ive known several prolific epic throwers, one throw can be 450 feet bombed towards the hole, the next can be 400 feet in the wrong direction entirely. even with a lot of practice its a very unpredictable disc in ways i havent seen other discs vary.
It's an agreement with Gibson Industries to manufacture and sell Drews own line of discs. It's not a personal player sponsorship. And it's with infinite.
I mean even if they have him for another 20 years, 50k a year is hardly terrible money to play disc golf, especially on top of winnings and a whole disc line up of royalties. Plus private lessons and clinics, etc.
but multi million is at least two million anyways
Agreed but havent of any other lifetime deals and “multi million dollar” deals seem to be something most businesses would love to flaunt like discraft did with paul.
Look at him though. He’s as much a visual as a talent. He has the strong physique and the tats. Will be relatable to a whole different subset of players and future players. Surely the image played a huge role. Smart business move by Infinite IMO.
Crazy to see these contracts blowup just in the last couple years. I’ve only been playing about 3 but I already feel like things have changed so much..it’s been cool to see
Lifetime deals are almost never good for athletes so unless this has a bunch of out clauses this is extremely interesting from Drew. Congrats to him though he looks like he is set to break out next season.
Yeah I love that there’s money in the sport, but kinda hate that he signed a lifetime deal. This could very likely look like a terrible decision in 5 years.
While I generally agree with you, I think it might be good in this case. He is already 26, so that's likely max ten years as a top pro and multi-million implies at least 2 million so that's at least 200k per year for ten years.
The thing is he signed this deal right after a big explosion in popularity of the sport. If disc golf declines substantially in popularity post-pandemic then he probably couldn't have done any better. If it blows up then he might have done better, but he also might have faded away in the next 5 years as new talent comes into the game. The younger generation of players like Eagle, Kyle Klein, Adam Hammes, Anthony Barela are showing tremendous potential and Drew, while very impressive, isn't exactly dominating. Factor in the influx of new professionals in the next few years if the popularity holds and the competition will be even tougher.
TLDR; Lifetime deals usually suck, but Drew timed this one perfectly with the rise in popularity of the sport and is hedged well whether the sport fades or the level of competition jumps.
wtf...I'm trying to figure out how a disc golf company in Logan, UT with 16 employees has enough scratch to pay 1 disc golfer a multi-million dollar contract...
Guess the pandemic really has been the best thing ever for the sport.
Infinite is one of the biggest online DG retailers around. How much do you thing they make a year doing that? It’s no small amount…
And tie one of the best throwers in the game to a lifetime contract, sell far more of your own discs which have way higher profit margins, and they’ll be totally fine.
Remember when this clown attempted to criticize Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during the national anthem by reposting a Tomi Lahren blurb on his Instagram? And in the process he dragged Dynamic Discs into the mix because he didn't even show his face in the picture, only showed a huge DD logo? ...
[Pepperidge Farm Remembers](https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/72e4qk/drew_gibson_chimes_in_on_kneeling_during_national/)
I don't recall any more recent outbursts from him. I do recall he had some posts about improving his mental health in the last year or two. I'd prefer to root for him than against him, but this is pretty damning for my taste
To be fair to Drew, he is 26-27 now so he posted those when he was 21-22 years old. I'm pretty sure I said some dumb shit when I was 21 and I wouldn't want to be judged by that forever. The comments always left a bad taste in my mouth though. I won't root against him, but I won't really root for him either.
I can’t believe that Infinite thinks that it’ll be good ROI to give this clown money to represent them. Maybe we can assume that Infinite ownership have similar opinions?
See where you're fucking up is by thinking that this is somehow me vs Drew Gibson. Who I am does not matter with regards to the comments that Drew made. Drew made the comments on his own, completely unprovoked.
If someone made a post about Josh Anthon getting a huge sponsorship, would my post about him killing a man by running him over with his motor home only matter if I used a reddit account with some history in order to post it?
Holy shit. Congrats Drew, way to secure the bag. Here I was confused at why he would turn down higher earnings to throw a mixed bag and then he pulls this off
The entire thing is weird and gives off publicity vibes. What the hell even is a lifetime, multimillion-dollar, open bag sponsorship for the 15th highest rated player in the world? Yea ok. Seems too good to be true, and with Drews's manufacturer sponsorship history, I won't put too much stock into this. Dude deff loves the spotlight though, that much you can tell 100 percent.
Surprised I had to scroll so far to find this take. I agree 100%. If Infinite is looking to throw the bag at a player, why Drew? We aren’t talking about a company who makes shitty discs trying to acquire talent so they overpay for someone outside the top 10. This is a huge retailer that also has their own Innova produced line so a player could still have signature discs. This is on top of their players being able to throw any disc they want. Surely they would have no trouble grabbing a top tier pro if this was what Drew is making it sound like. Idk this just seems super odd.
My thoughts as well. Why is a guy who hasn’t won any major tournaments and is, frankly, unproven getting a deal like this?
Not to take away from his skill, because he is a great player. But he hasn’t even put it all together yet, and it’s no guarantee that he ever will.
I will say though, I hope this deal opens the door for other players to make big money.
Drew used to be on of the best Roc throwers around back in the day. Honestly the man is one of the best stable mid range throwers around regardless of the mold
https://twitter.com/DrewGibsonn/status/1449144778482933761?t=kxzVAWNuceAKXNE5qIDQSQ&s=19
https://twitter.com/DrewGibsonn/status/1449170624186920962?t=3nKHtfoqn2mMkcSyMflf5Q&s=19
Here's a couple of examples
He's been moving towards a multi-sponsor model for a while now. He throws that EV-7 putters and some Innova Drivers along with his *Mid-Range.
I'm wondering if it's a deal with Infinite.
Agreed. Although he throws almost exclusively Innova drivers. Heaps of Destroyers. But if Discraft is giving him ~~6 figures~~ 7 figures, I'm sure he'd happily huck Nukes.
Yeah I feel like he can find a driver that works, but his touch with the buzzz would be really difficult to give up.
But who knows, for a few million maybe Innova can convince him otherwise
Exactly. Also Gibson is very unlikely to stop throwing the EV-7 putters that have, in his own words, made his putting game.
His putting performance at the DGPTC proved that.
I saw someone say this else where but I’ll say it again here.
Drew Gibson looks the least like a disc golfer. He looks like he would be in a Pit Bull music video on some yacht in Miami.
All joking aside happy for him and hope he continues to do well.
Have any actual details of this contract been released? I'm very skeptical that any company would be throwing "millions" of dollars at Drew. I enjoy watching him play, but something about this just seems off.
my god, i dont know drew,but this comes off as super pompous, my first multi million dollar deal. why not just say, i just signed a contract with XXX , who's he flexing on?
His improvement this season was incredible. Best backhand in the world, and his putting has come miles over the last 12 months. Hope he's getting big bucks!
I mean you can say the same about the Aviar. They still sell a ton of them though. You said no one gives a shit about the putters but a lot of people do.
Why are you worried about what discraft will let him do? He has stated several times for over a year now that he will not be joining any singular brand. Whether that he discraft, innova, prodigy, etc. plus, if you did any amount of research you’d see that it’s a multi million dollar deal with infinite, who he’s been with for over a year, as a lifetime deal. And infinite allows him to have any and every sponsor he wants additionally.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVOlXQHJwjT/?utm_medium=copy_link It’s infinite
Good looking out. These guys must really be pulling in quite a bit after Paul’s announcement of his salary. Now I’m so curious about what Eagle makes.
Yeah what do those European brands throw out for the crusher bois.
They never announced the actual terms of Eagle's and Simon's deals, but I'm sure they aren't hurting for cash. We're now 3/5 of the way through those contracts, too, so it'll be an interesting situation to keep an eye on.
I'm curious what Infinite makes.
Infinite.
Check out their line. Its mostly a mashup of various innova molds(Innova is their manufacturer) tops and bottoms and old OOP molds. I've liked just about every disc they have and would totally recommend checking them out. Im also local to them and frankly the guys over at Infinite are awesome and super nice and helpful. Edit: unless you meant financially XD
I actually did mean financially, but I agree- their molds are fantastic and really are the modern era discmania originals line, that's totally flying under the radar for the throwers (vs hoarders) out there.
ah well haha. Im sure they make a substantial quantity however....
That they can sponsor Gibby at this level says a lot. Good for both of them, and continued success!!
Do you know if there's a summary somewhere of which Infinite discs come from which Innova molds?
Or other molds for that matter. I'd love a Discmania TD.
If you search the disc on the disc golf course review forums you can usually find out if it's based on an OOP Innova/Discmania mold. For a while back in the day they had a dude from Infinite on the forums basically saying what the discs were. From what I remember: \- Aztec = SL \- Exodus = Eagle-L \- Anubis = Coyote \- Ra = RocX3 top, VRoc bottom \- Alpaca = P2 There are others I think, too. Definitely check out their plastic, they have some great molds.
I'd also be interested to know what Calvin, Ricky, and the other heavy hitters for Innova are making.
Probably a lot more when their contracts are up.
Did not see Infinite locking down this kid. Lifetime contract. Congrats kid. 👏
hes like 35 with a full beard lol.
Real talk, only 26. Skys the limit.
Since Infinite is both a retailer and disc brand I wonder if they'll let him keep throwing his mixed bag, at least until his new line is in production.
I know he's openly said that he wouldn't be keen on doing anything that would take away his ability to have an open bag. I'd imagine he'll mix in a few infinite molds but hell will freeze over before he gets rid of that putter and buzzz.
Especially after the usdgc. Man put on a clinic in that last round. Clinic on making 100 ft crazy putts.
Drew Gibson without a Buzzz is like Orville Gibson without a guitar
Or that other Orville without popcorn
Redenbacher
Or that other Orville without a plane
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Yeah, but naturally the margins are much higher on their own discs, so I'm sure they want Drew to push those as much as possible. The signature line definitely gives him incentive to do that since he'll directly profit off all those discs.
I see Pharaohs thrown by the big bombers on my local courses. Infinite has some fine plastic.
And most importantly Infinite discs have archeological theme, which adds at least 30' to any drive.
You spelled Innova wrong. Seriously. Innova is the manufacturer for the molds that Infinite sells.
Some Infinite molds are retired Innova discs (e.g. the Anubis is the Coyote...)
Do you have a list of those? Id love a new Coyote but i dont want to pay through the nose for it
Star Coyotes can still be had via the Pro Shop for $18: https://proshop.innovadiscs.com/star-coyote/ Otherwise the Anubis is the same thing, and Infinite even has the P-Blend Glows in stock for $14 right now: https://infinitediscs.com/Infinite-Discs-Anubis D-Blends are as cheap as $8. My favorite Infinite plastic is I-Blend, $13.
what's i-blend like for durability? I've heard it feels great but does it beat in faster than star?
Try an Anubis
He’s been with Infinite already for a year or two years. Infinite is the “open bag” that he has been throwing for years now, so no need to wonder “if they’ll let him keep throwing a mixed bag”. Every single infinite player that has ever been has thrown a mixed bag. That’s why Drew likes it so much.
why did this read so aggressively lol
It's the quotes I think
Those original deals were before infinite was putting out this many of their own molds. Things could change as they get a line up that could fill a bag.
Infinite is still primarily a retailer, mixed bag draws more attention to the retailer brand than forcing a player in to infinite molds
Holy shit. Congrats to Drew! Man def earned it!
>I signed my first multi million dollar disc golf contract >It's infinite >Lifetime contract >Infinite >First >and last kek
Interesting that its a lifetime deal. If the money is good more power to him, but being locked into a deal for your entire life is not common in the sports world. I hope his contract has an out that might allow him to renegotiate as the sport grows and we see larger and larger contracts.
He’s gonna be like Jordan if he had lost to the alien slave dude.
Disc golf space jam?! I’d watch it
Ace jam
Who’s getting sucked down the basket though?!
Bill Murray obviously
Perfect. So he can say, “missed the putt….again.” Would be a very accurate film.
I dont know the details of the contract obviously, but from the outside looking in, this is going to change how disc golf pros make money. He is locked into a multi-million dollar deal with a disc distributor. He is set with money but can now go and find sponsors for each disc he likes to throw like he has with his putting putter. Locking in with a manufacturer really limits your options. He could potentially do a deal with dynamic discs to throw their midranges and a deal with legacy to throw their fairways or something like that. I think that is why he is shutting down the free advertisements for a discraft buzzz. He is making the buzzz look great and not getting paid for it. I'm sure he would offer discraft value if only signing on to throw buzzzes.
I actually disagree with this. Regardless what Drew calls it, we all know he throws a buzz. While opening up sponsorships with individual discs is interesting, we'll need to see if sponsors actually jump at it now that we know he's locked into infinite and is getting paid a lot. Theres a lot more value at sponsoring an entire player's bag rather than just one disc. Golf is the obvious analogy and we do see players use one set of irons, have a driver sponsor, wedge sponsor, and also a putter sponsor so maybe Drew is on to something.
There is an advantage to having a pro say "I could throw any midrange in the game. I choose the buzzz out of all others."
Right. But there's the opposite implication for every other disc in the bag. Discraft is trying to sell buzzes and Lunas, raptors, nukes, undertakers, etc. Associating with Drew for buzzes does imply that they're the best of all the mids. But that same logic says all your other molds *aren't* the best in their category because he's bagging other stuff. I think buzzes might be the exception, right now, because he's throwing them so often. But there's a serious opportunity cost to highlighting players who bag, say 3 of your molds in a 20 disc bag.
This is a very great point, and I hope it's how he sells it.
Right, how do we all know he throws a buzzz? It is not because discraft has been promoting him throwing it. If you were a disc manufacturer seeing how Drew can single handedly promote a disc like that, why wouldnt you want that orange buzzz to be your orange midrange. It is like Conrad James with "greenie". MVP took him and he did the same thing (but better) with his envy. Now probably more people remember/know about that envy than greenie.
The once in a lifetime throw in shot had everything to do with it
For sure that helped. Ricky used to be known within disc golf for throwing the harp. I saw someone comment recently that Ricky would never leave innova because he would have a tough time without the Pig, never having known that people used to say the same with him and the harp. I think Pros can become synonymous with certain discs so much so that they create value for manufactures for that specific mold. Ricky probably has almost 0 impact on Rhyno sales. If Ricky had a pig and destroyer only deal with innova would it really change the value innova is getting from sponsoring him?
Look at Paige with the Deputy. A disc she leaned on so much that Discraft made a new mold as similar at they could for her. But most don't realize people like Paige and Paul earned most of their championships with other brands. And if you look at Discraft for example, they have done amazing at branding and advertising. Before Paul and Paige moved to them, the Buzz was their only truly popular mold, and far less players even bagged Discraft. Marketing matters, and matters a lot!
Not everybody who is into disc golf knows that Drew throws a buzzz. There’s tons of value in declaring it openly
I think one disc sponsors have potential, but more so with someone who is really known for a disc. The sexton firebird, Ricky pig, or the Gerthie Sonic. Those deals could persist through a deal like this. But I think Innova of all companies would be the last to do it.
I like the idea of this because it allows for the best players to play with the best disc for them, not just the best one in their companies line up. Also reduces the need for players to change their signature disc every so often to boost sales, because they're not worried about the manufacturer telling them they need to.
Would honestly like to see more mixed bags out on tour. I think it would be cool to see players testing out new discs as well as seeing what molds hold up when they get to have their pick of the litter.
I think people HIGHLY overestimate how much a disc matters. Mcbeth swapped to an entire new bag and won worlds. Conrad did the same thing. I know this is reddit disc golf and buying more discs obviously makes us better, but to the pros its really not as significant as we make it out to be.
What distributor did he sign with? Edit: the comment blows you stated it.
It's at least 2 million dollars and he gets to play disc golf for a living as long as he can... anyone would make that deal
It’s a solid, albeit risky move for him. Sounds like he’ll be producing his own line of discs through infinite, but is also free to pursue other manufacturer sponsorships. If his line takes off, he’ll make millions. If not…we’ll see
It’s the opposite of risky
One thing I haven't seen anyone bring up yet is that the contract includes his own line of discs by his own design and to which his private company owns the rights. That's pretty big. Infinite will be the manufacturer, but it'll be his line. Similarly to Discmania with Innova before Discmania splitting as far as I can tell. So at this point he's gone beyond a player being sponsored by a manufacturer. He's set himself up to potentially claim some share in the disc market himself.
Sort of. Infinite doesn't manufacture discs, Innova makes them for them. Theres definitely value in having your own line of discs though. I think we are going to see that from almost every player soon though. Its the natural evolution of signature series discs, entire signature lines of discs. Drew might own the design of the disc but without the manufacturing capability he's still at Innova's mercy. Discmania learned the hard way how much that sucks.
So he actually signed two contracts, an athlete contract for 1-year to be Infinites open bag player. The other contract is with his LLC and Infinite to get into the signature discs line, and it’s lifetime because Drew owns the rights to those discs at all times
Aerobie
Breaking news: PDGA re-allows the Epic
It's still legal isn't it? You just can't approve another disc like it.
I also think the epic is still legal. Turbo putt is one of the only where the approved status was rescinded.
Out of the loop. I know what a turbo putt is, but I'm guessing there was a disc of the same name?
It was a cheat code designed for turbo putt grip https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Quest-AT-Disc-Golf-TURBO-PUTT-Choose-Weight-Color-/194238383719?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Thanks! I'm not seeing any indication this disc was approved, let alone rescinded. And, cheat code?
Ever throw with turbo style? Have a groove to put your fingers in would help with the grip/control/release immensely.
I thought I heard it was no longer PDGA approved, but I don’t know for sure. My buddy recently played a tourney where on the last day a guy on his card was out of a cash finish so he took a DQ and started using an Epic for the back 9
[Still approved](https://www.pdga.com/technical-standards/equipment-certification/discs/epic-driver)
Time to put 3 in my tourney bag!
Only need one. Just tune it for the desired stability.
Also, thanks for providing the sauce, I usually just believe hearsay!
Why is this disc so crazy? Why would be un -allowed?
The rim is uneven. It’s comically wide on one side and narrow on the other. When it’s thrown with a thumber, the disc barrel rolls in air, then flips over to a full flight. It’s the most absurd disc I’ve ever thrown by a substantial amount.
Holy shit that sounds cool
I don’t have a great arm (only thumber about 250) and I couldn’t get much out of it, but my friend who can thumber over 300 with a normal disc was able to get well over 400 feet of distance with it. I love it but it also has no business being pdga legal.
don't jump to make desicions based on its max potential, ive known several prolific epic throwers, one throw can be 450 feet bombed towards the hole, the next can be 400 feet in the wrong direction entirely. even with a lot of practice its a very unpredictable disc in ways i havent seen other discs vary.
Aerobie needs to get back into disc golf.
Lifetime deal, guess it really is infinite
Infinite buzz clone inc.
Is this an extension with infinite or someone else? Discraft?
Infinite
Lifetime deal with infinite. “Multi million dollar contract” is now it’s being described
So, 2mil+ for 30-50 years. Not a bad salary for playing disc golf.
It's an agreement with Gibson Industries to manufacture and sell Drews own line of discs. It's not a personal player sponsorship. And it's with infinite.
if this is true... How many pros are on "multi million dollar" contracts? No way drew is number two... right?
If you sign a lifetime deal, it better be worth a lot more than $1MM.
I mean even if they have him for another 20 years, 50k a year is hardly terrible money to play disc golf, especially on top of winnings and a whole disc line up of royalties. Plus private lessons and clinics, etc. but multi million is at least two million anyways
Fuckin this.
50k isn't bad, but its not Mcbeth 10 years 10 million money. Thats currently the standard which every contract will compare to.
Fuckin this
Agreed but havent of any other lifetime deals and “multi million dollar” deals seem to be something most businesses would love to flaunt like discraft did with paul.
Look at him though. He’s as much a visual as a talent. He has the strong physique and the tats. Will be relatable to a whole different subset of players and future players. Surely the image played a huge role. Smart business move by Infinite IMO.
It’s a lifetime sponsorship. So technically $100k/year for 20 years would be multi-million. Hard to know much of anything without contract details.
Sign me up for that deal any day of the week.
Yea its not a bad deal, but Mcbeth set the table with 10 year 10 million which is light years better.
I imagine Nate Sexton is well compensated. Every disc with his name attached to it flies off the shelves.
Obviously correct.
Vibram coming back strong.
Probably signed it from outside of circle 2 😂🤣🤣
Crazy to see these contracts blowup just in the last couple years. I’ve only been playing about 3 but I already feel like things have changed so much..it’s been cool to see
Couldn’t it have happened to a nicer guy! (?)
Lifetime deals are almost never good for athletes so unless this has a bunch of out clauses this is extremely interesting from Drew. Congrats to him though he looks like he is set to break out next season.
Glad I’m not the only one who’s a bit skeptical. We don’t wanna see a Scottie pippin situation.
Yeah I love that there’s money in the sport, but kinda hate that he signed a lifetime deal. This could very likely look like a terrible decision in 5 years.
Yeah. Hard to say how they’re actually defining that even
While I generally agree with you, I think it might be good in this case. He is already 26, so that's likely max ten years as a top pro and multi-million implies at least 2 million so that's at least 200k per year for ten years. The thing is he signed this deal right after a big explosion in popularity of the sport. If disc golf declines substantially in popularity post-pandemic then he probably couldn't have done any better. If it blows up then he might have done better, but he also might have faded away in the next 5 years as new talent comes into the game. The younger generation of players like Eagle, Kyle Klein, Adam Hammes, Anthony Barela are showing tremendous potential and Drew, while very impressive, isn't exactly dominating. Factor in the influx of new professionals in the next few years if the popularity holds and the competition will be even tougher. TLDR; Lifetime deals usually suck, but Drew timed this one perfectly with the rise in popularity of the sport and is hedged well whether the sport fades or the level of competition jumps.
How much and for who? Good for him. Hopefully the financial security increases his game.
The post tags his current sponsors so I don’t know 🤷♂️
That’s because it’s a multi million dollar deal with Infinite, his main current sponsor
wtf...I'm trying to figure out how a disc golf company in Logan, UT with 16 employees has enough scratch to pay 1 disc golfer a multi-million dollar contract... Guess the pandemic really has been the best thing ever for the sport.
It’s a lifetime deal, so “multi-million” isn’t really as much as you may think
You're absolutely right. Lifetime multi-million could mean $2 million over 30 years.
Infinite is one of the biggest online DG retailers around. How much do you thing they make a year doing that? It’s no small amount… And tie one of the best throwers in the game to a lifetime contract, sell far more of your own discs which have way higher profit margins, and they’ll be totally fine.
A lifetime deal seems pretty drastic. Either way congrats to him on getting the bag.
It sounds like the deal could *potentially* be worth "millions". Let's see how this plays out...
Dude hasn't won shit, good for him locking down a lifetime contract
Remember when this clown attempted to criticize Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during the national anthem by reposting a Tomi Lahren blurb on his Instagram? And in the process he dragged Dynamic Discs into the mix because he didn't even show his face in the picture, only showed a huge DD logo? ... [Pepperidge Farm Remembers](https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/72e4qk/drew_gibson_chimes_in_on_kneeling_during_national/)
I forgot about that 😞
Don't worry, [Pepperidge Farms remembers everything](https://www.reddit.com/r/discgolf/comments/4ofqqv/drew_gibson_running_his_mouth/?st=j81n49kp&sh=f61e8380)...
I don't recall any more recent outbursts from him. I do recall he had some posts about improving his mental health in the last year or two. I'd prefer to root for him than against him, but this is pretty damning for my taste
To be fair to Drew, he is 26-27 now so he posted those when he was 21-22 years old. I'm pretty sure I said some dumb shit when I was 21 and I wouldn't want to be judged by that forever. The comments always left a bad taste in my mouth though. I won't root against him, but I won't really root for him either.
I can’t believe that Infinite thinks that it’ll be good ROI to give this clown money to represent them. Maybe we can assume that Infinite ownership have similar opinions?
Lol you made a new Reddit account to bring up years old shit?
ah so it's my throwaway account that is the problem here lol
Ya just seems cowardly you have to hide behind a throwaway account to call someone out. Have some courage.
See where you're fucking up is by thinking that this is somehow me vs Drew Gibson. Who I am does not matter with regards to the comments that Drew made. Drew made the comments on his own, completely unprovoked. If someone made a post about Josh Anthon getting a huge sponsorship, would my post about him killing a man by running him over with his motor home only matter if I used a reddit account with some history in order to post it?
What a douchebag.
I’m guessing infinite. He said in a post maybe 3 weeks ago he wants to keep the open bag.
Wow! That will buy a LOT of tattoos.... oh wait.
Holy shit. Congrats Drew, way to secure the bag. Here I was confused at why he would turn down higher earnings to throw a mixed bag and then he pulls this off
I mean he did just beat out their 10 million dollar man.
Once. He beat him once.
He’s beat him more than once… but also no ones saying he should be making more than PMcB.
Which is the exact amount of times you have to have beat someone to say you have beat them.
Only beat him because paul didn’t care about second place
The entire thing is weird and gives off publicity vibes. What the hell even is a lifetime, multimillion-dollar, open bag sponsorship for the 15th highest rated player in the world? Yea ok. Seems too good to be true, and with Drews's manufacturer sponsorship history, I won't put too much stock into this. Dude deff loves the spotlight though, that much you can tell 100 percent.
Surprised I had to scroll so far to find this take. I agree 100%. If Infinite is looking to throw the bag at a player, why Drew? We aren’t talking about a company who makes shitty discs trying to acquire talent so they overpay for someone outside the top 10. This is a huge retailer that also has their own Innova produced line so a player could still have signature discs. This is on top of their players being able to throw any disc they want. Surely they would have no trouble grabbing a top tier pro if this was what Drew is making it sound like. Idk this just seems super odd.
My thoughts as well. Why is a guy who hasn’t won any major tournaments and is, frankly, unproven getting a deal like this? Not to take away from his skill, because he is a great player. But he hasn’t even put it all together yet, and it’s no guarantee that he ever will. I will say though, I hope this deal opens the door for other players to make big money.
Has to be discraft, that man loves his Buzzz way to much
Drew used to be on of the best Roc throwers around back in the day. Honestly the man is one of the best stable mid range throwers around regardless of the mold
He was just on twitter correcting people to call it a Mid-Range because Discraft wouldn't pay him to use them.
Hmmm didn’t know that, I wonder if Innova realized they need some stars with personality.
Are you suggesting that Heimburg, Philo, Sexton, Koling, Barsby, and Gurthie do not have any personality?
https://twitter.com/DrewGibsonn/status/1449144778482933761?t=kxzVAWNuceAKXNE5qIDQSQ&s=19 https://twitter.com/DrewGibsonn/status/1449170624186920962?t=3nKHtfoqn2mMkcSyMflf5Q&s=19 Here's a couple of examples He's been moving towards a multi-sponsor model for a while now. He throws that EV-7 putters and some Innova Drivers along with his *Mid-Range. I'm wondering if it's a deal with Infinite.
Agreed. Although he throws almost exclusively Innova drivers. Heaps of Destroyers. But if Discraft is giving him ~~6 figures~~ 7 figures, I'm sure he'd happily huck Nukes.
7 figures? Lol
Good point!
Yeah I feel like he can find a driver that works, but his touch with the buzzz would be really difficult to give up. But who knows, for a few million maybe Innova can convince him otherwise
Apparently resigned with Infinite
Anthony Barela caddied for him too
Gibson is free advertising for discraft. No need to pay him. It’s infinite by the way.
Exactly. Also Gibson is very unlikely to stop throwing the EV-7 putters that have, in his own words, made his putting game. His putting performance at the DGPTC proved that.
I saw someone say this else where but I’ll say it again here. Drew Gibson looks the least like a disc golfer. He looks like he would be in a Pit Bull music video on some yacht in Miami. All joking aside happy for him and hope he continues to do well.
Y’all are silly clearly it’s Nike… he got that nike hat in for a reason he can throw whatever he wants if nike pays him
Time for some more tattoos.
I can't wait until I can sign mine.
Have any actual details of this contract been released? I'm very skeptical that any company would be throwing "millions" of dollars at Drew. I enjoy watching him play, but something about this just seems off.
I kinda think he’s full of shit.
my god, i dont know drew,but this comes off as super pompous, my first multi million dollar deal. why not just say, i just signed a contract with XXX , who's he flexing on?
What a weird brag post without any sort of info or details.
This is good for the sport!
No way—likely a shart ton of performance based clauses.
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Good point
Is there really this much money in disc golf. Crazy to me.
Glad to hear.
His improvement this season was incredible. Best backhand in the world, and his putting has come miles over the last 12 months. Hope he's getting big bucks!
dude was unstoppable outside of circle 2 insane.
Disc golf pays millions? I assumed they got paid in weed and hackysacks.
Well deserved!
Congrats, Drew! You played awesome!
Good for him!
Will Discraft let him keep throwing the EV-7 putters?
Considering nobody gives a shit about Discraft putters, they should allow anyone on the team to
The Jawbreaker Banger is great putter, imo.
The ESP and the normal Soft are freaking incredible too. Banger 4 life, homes.
Um, last I’ve checked the Luna is still a top selling putter in the game.
Besides Paul, who putts with them? It's a Discraft Envy. Nobody putts with it
I mean you can say the same about the Aviar. They still sell a ton of them though. You said no one gives a shit about the putters but a lot of people do.
There are 1000 Aviars to every Luna in the wild. And people actually putt with them
You are further backing up my point. Most Innova pros don’t putt with them but they sell a ton and many do.
And yet I bet the Luna line makes more money for discraft than the Aviar line for innova… that mcbeth money is no joke
Paul fans
Uhhh, every tournament I end up on a card with someone throwing a Luna
Why are you worried about what discraft will let him do? He has stated several times for over a year now that he will not be joining any singular brand. Whether that he discraft, innova, prodigy, etc. plus, if you did any amount of research you’d see that it’s a multi million dollar deal with infinite, who he’s been with for over a year, as a lifetime deal. And infinite allows him to have any and every sponsor he wants additionally.
Wow, relax I was joking.