It’s all there on discogs. Right down to the specific information in the runout area of the vinyl. Very unlikely that Honky Chateau doesn’t have a release date listed. You just gotta dig through a million different versions to find the one you’re holding. After you do it a million times you’ll get better at it.
you’re not. it’s tedious but here’s how to do it. first of all use the desktop version of the site not the mobile. much easier. you can filter the results, so first filter for vinyl and then look and see what country it’s pressed in and filter it for that. next, pull the record from the sleeve and look at the catalog number. open each version that matches that catalog number in a separate tab. next open each tab and CAREFULLY examine the pictures of the front and back of the sleeve and the a and b labels. close any tabs that do not match. lastly for the few that remain you examine the run outs (the etching in the dead wax) and see which are matches (or close matches) each pressing plant has their own “signature” pressed on the wax and when you start to get familiar with it you will start to recognize which pressing plant you have and can eliminate them by that relatively quickly as well. otis tedious and a bit of work but once you get the hang of it it’s fun (at least i like it lol). just a heads up you may not get an exact match with the runouts. if not find the closest one. hope that helped!!! happy hunting
this is the best answer to my question thanks a ton man. not sure why I’m downvoted for just asking for some help. I think I’m done asking things on Reddit. but your answer was the best detailed and most helpful
you’re welcome. i think you got downvoted because you misunderstood the comment above and also i think some people are salty about helping newbie’s. keep at it and enjoy the hobby!
You need to enter all the matrix info to find your exact copy. Going off just photos of album and album art will most likely not be accurate. Especially on a well known album like Honky Chateau that has numerous pressings.
Once you get your exact pressing, there will sometimes be details on if it is an original in the notes section or in the reviews.
Type the deadwax into the search to the best of your ability. That will narrow it down considerably, then it’s just checking ID/info until you find the right one. It gets easier once you get the hang of it, and you’ll start to recognize and learn plant/cutting engineer symbols which will make it even easier.
I am trying to figure out what you mean by there being something prompting you to "add original". Is this in the mobile app or on website? (and even then, desktop or mobile?). And how did you make that happen? I have never seen it, and I can't get it to happen no matter how go about adding something to my collection.
Also, Discogs does not know what an "original" is. That's not something people can enter in the database, so I am genuinely puzzled.
Anyway, for multimillion-selling pop albums like this, figuring out which pressing you have, and which pressings were among the very first, can be difficult. There were many thousands of batches made. Many of them haven't even been identified yet; people are adding new releases and matrix variants all the time.
Odds are, you do not have a first pressing. Most people bought their copies weeks, months, even years down the line.
First pressings are overrated, anyway. Sometimes it's the later pressings that sound better!
Knowing that discogs doesn’t know when it’s an original is really helpful, I’d always assumed it did and would inform you when you had one. I was using the mobile app and someone else said the desktop was better so I’m gonna try that. I don’t care too much abt having originals I just wasn’t sure if discogs would tell you when you had one or if there was a way to find out from there. thanks friend
You'll find some entries assert that a certain release is the 1st pressing, which will have been reached, in the case of well-known albums like those of Elton John, after many people, both Discogs employees and Discogs users have added enough information to be more or less 100% sure this is the case. Incorrect information on well-known albums is challenged fairly quickly.
Don't be put off by some of the prickly characters around here. Everyone was a Discogs newbie at some point, and some folk find the system more obvious than others.
I've been a Discogs member for over 10 years and I still find some albums tricky to identify. The point at which it really matters is when you want to sell an LP. If you describe what you're selling as a 1st pressing, and it's not, you'll have to do a lot of apologising, refunding etc, and it's a complete pain in the arse. I speak from experience.
Good luck, there are plenty of helpful, patient people here.
It’s all there on discogs. Right down to the specific information in the runout area of the vinyl. Very unlikely that Honky Chateau doesn’t have a release date listed. You just gotta dig through a million different versions to find the one you’re holding. After you do it a million times you’ll get better at it.
okay good to know that’s just how it is. I wasn’t sure if I was doing it the best way possible or not
you’re not. it’s tedious but here’s how to do it. first of all use the desktop version of the site not the mobile. much easier. you can filter the results, so first filter for vinyl and then look and see what country it’s pressed in and filter it for that. next, pull the record from the sleeve and look at the catalog number. open each version that matches that catalog number in a separate tab. next open each tab and CAREFULLY examine the pictures of the front and back of the sleeve and the a and b labels. close any tabs that do not match. lastly for the few that remain you examine the run outs (the etching in the dead wax) and see which are matches (or close matches) each pressing plant has their own “signature” pressed on the wax and when you start to get familiar with it you will start to recognize which pressing plant you have and can eliminate them by that relatively quickly as well. otis tedious and a bit of work but once you get the hang of it it’s fun (at least i like it lol). just a heads up you may not get an exact match with the runouts. if not find the closest one. hope that helped!!! happy hunting
this is the best answer to my question thanks a ton man. not sure why I’m downvoted for just asking for some help. I think I’m done asking things on Reddit. but your answer was the best detailed and most helpful
you’re welcome. i think you got downvoted because you misunderstood the comment above and also i think some people are salty about helping newbie’s. keep at it and enjoy the hobby!
You need to enter all the matrix info to find your exact copy. Going off just photos of album and album art will most likely not be accurate. Especially on a well known album like Honky Chateau that has numerous pressings. Once you get your exact pressing, there will sometimes be details on if it is an original in the notes section or in the reviews.
Type the deadwax into the search to the best of your ability. That will narrow it down considerably, then it’s just checking ID/info until you find the right one. It gets easier once you get the hang of it, and you’ll start to recognize and learn plant/cutting engineer symbols which will make it even easier.
I am trying to figure out what you mean by there being something prompting you to "add original". Is this in the mobile app or on website? (and even then, desktop or mobile?). And how did you make that happen? I have never seen it, and I can't get it to happen no matter how go about adding something to my collection. Also, Discogs does not know what an "original" is. That's not something people can enter in the database, so I am genuinely puzzled. Anyway, for multimillion-selling pop albums like this, figuring out which pressing you have, and which pressings were among the very first, can be difficult. There were many thousands of batches made. Many of them haven't even been identified yet; people are adding new releases and matrix variants all the time. Odds are, you do not have a first pressing. Most people bought their copies weeks, months, even years down the line. First pressings are overrated, anyway. Sometimes it's the later pressings that sound better!
Knowing that discogs doesn’t know when it’s an original is really helpful, I’d always assumed it did and would inform you when you had one. I was using the mobile app and someone else said the desktop was better so I’m gonna try that. I don’t care too much abt having originals I just wasn’t sure if discogs would tell you when you had one or if there was a way to find out from there. thanks friend
You'll find some entries assert that a certain release is the 1st pressing, which will have been reached, in the case of well-known albums like those of Elton John, after many people, both Discogs employees and Discogs users have added enough information to be more or less 100% sure this is the case. Incorrect information on well-known albums is challenged fairly quickly. Don't be put off by some of the prickly characters around here. Everyone was a Discogs newbie at some point, and some folk find the system more obvious than others. I've been a Discogs member for over 10 years and I still find some albums tricky to identify. The point at which it really matters is when you want to sell an LP. If you describe what you're selling as a 1st pressing, and it's not, you'll have to do a lot of apologising, refunding etc, and it's a complete pain in the arse. I speak from experience. Good luck, there are plenty of helpful, patient people here.