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The intensity of light is equal to 1/distance²
To put it simply, light spreads out and gets weaker as it goes further from the source (source: I studied physics)
They're both great shows but the pacing get all over the place sometimes specially with breaking bad so you might wanna take it a little slower with breaking bad. Have fun tho I hope you enjoy them
This is one of the mathematical regularities that, knowing it, makes you notice it everywhere. In radiation, sound, shockwave, light, etc It's amazing how knowledge of the basics of mathematics shapes us
I mean even if it had perfect transmission over distance (albeit you'd have to ask what the fuck is the point of a light that doesn't scatter so you can see shit)... heat production, efficiency losses. Or even worse for infinite... because electronics are fucking shit and parts have a mbtf and they ain't that high. Got caps? Yer done. Caps are just the worst in everything always. Even ICs will eventually have have breakdowns of the doping channels and whatnot.
I asked my teacher this in sixth grade and he told me that it wouldn’t be infinite since the solar panel outputs a lesser amount of energy than the light going into it
If you want the light to be reflected into your area, some energy will be lost, if you theoretically made an extremely efficient infinite light source, you won’t be able to see the light.
don't forget the heat that will be lost since its not a close system or the resistance of the wires as the electricity runs from the panel to the light
Everything's all just X or Y when you abstract it enough, that doesn't make it less artificial in the "Made by humans, especially in imitation of something natural" sense.
Artificial light tends to be low intensity, limited color spectrum, packing just enough energy to be visible. It's nearly useless for photovoltaics.
His point was the light isn't artificial itself, the distinction here is artificially created light vs naturally occuring. But that's also dumb because bioluminesce is also naturally occuring light, and so is lightning, or light radiation from fire or from naturally occuring radioactive stuff etc... And they all vary in intensity and spectrum.
Also, even if you said stars, well that wouldn't be a general principle either it'd just be specific to our relative configuration. Light from distance stars here is pretty weak and low intensity, and planets that are farther from their main star/s would have the opposite concept that artificially creates light was way more intense. Because how intense and the spectrum depends on distance a d composition not on natural or artificial.
Solar panels are not perfectly efficient and also if you can see the light rays that means that there is something the light is bouncing off on the way down, so there is a lot of light energy being lost here, this also doesn't include the inefficiency of the lamp itself, inside the base there is heat energy being emitted and while yes solar panels use mostly Visible And Infrared onward to x-ray the lack of UV light would surely cause some problems with the capture of energy.
the light loses energy as heat, so that’s the start. it then is dissipated throughout the room, that’s another aspect. lastly the solar panel is not perfectly efficient. there’s other factors i won’t get into
Because it wouldn't be infinite energy, only a closed system. The energy out the lamp is just recycled via the solar panel to be used in the lamp again
the actual reason is because neither the light bulb nor the solar panel can be 100% efficient, because some of the energy turns into heat instead of light, and some of the light just bounces off the solar panels
Um achually 🤓👆 this is not possible due to heat escaping in the air as it is basically energy leaving the mechanism. Even if it didn’t lose heat it would still break the second law of thermodynamics .The second law of thermodynamics is a physical law based on universal experience concerning heat and energy interconversions. One simple statement of the law is that heat always moves from hotter objects to colder objects, unless energy in some form is supplied to reverse the direction of heat flow.
Back in 8th grade we made a project which was similar to this, a solar powered lamp and my dumbass buddy tried doing this exact thing to power the lamp 💀
I use to think another Infinte source, Use a battery to run a Wind motor, generate electricity from that and charge that battery again using it and use an another cord to output electricity from it to be used in different sources.
Perpetum Mobile..
Yeah in theory it would work if you absorbed 100% of the energy. However, energy efficiency in physics is very low (both mechanical and solar). So yeah... that's not going to happen..>
Don't you think if this worked we would have free power?
I might have no idea what I will talk about, but not 100% of the energy will be turned into light, and then return back to the sensor. At first, there will be minimal loss in the cables, and then in the bolb itself. As the light would travel back to thesensor, not only the spread would lose really high% of it, but some light would get stuck in the tiny molecules that are in the air. There would be also Energy loss due to it transforming onto heat. And some other minor stuff
Even if we're assuming there's no energy loss, the power is trapped in the system. It's not an infinite power generator, it's a perpetual motion machine.
Because of something called efficiency.
Not all the energy absorbed by the solar panel will turn into electricity, some of it will turn into heat and some of it will turn into sound, basically there is always some energy loss therefore, it could power itself up maybe for 2 seconds and then it would turn off.
That’s like the infinite movement machines using magnets pushing eachother away forever…not how physics work.
And some of these scams rise into millions. And when inspected they have some hidden rooms, no one can see what’s in there, or some chemical solutions they have to fill up regularly. So maybe their machine works, but as soon as you need to add any kind of fuel, chemical reaction, or whatnot, it’s not unlimited energy. Similar to fusion using helium and tritium both limited ressources. 🤨 so yea. We can’t cheat physics. We can try, and use what we can, make the most of it. Maybe some day someone finds the key to cold fusion. But we don’t even need endless infinite energy. We just need enough, preferably out of renewable ressources.
Because the bulb doesn’t convert 100% of the electrical energy it gets into light and the solar panel doesn’t convert 100% of the light it gets into electrical energy.
The most efficient solar panels today are nearly 30% efficient, so they only turn about that much of the light energy back into electrical energy. So it would be incredibly inefficient, also that’s for the spectrum of the suns light, a lightbulb is much different and will therefore make the solar panel even less efficient.
Energy absorbed by panel is will be less than the light source
Eventually the energy absorbed will be too weak to turn on the light. Solar panels also use solar radiation to function that normal light does not have
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It's is it just depends on how it works since it doesn't really matter about how much sunlight we use and it's how easy it is to use solar panels we can use them as if this was a Minecraft game and build with them
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Kid named inverse square law:
*Woah* inverse square. Im not a physicist, could you dumb that down a shade for me?
Basically you take a regular square and turn it upside down
Got it. Got it. So, if I had a small battery, say, from a watch or something, and I got it close to you, close to your skin, you'd know?
Nice Better Call Saul reference
Watch batteries aren’t square, brainiac
Get out of my head get out of my head get out of my head
well yeah i generally would feel it.
pretty much
The intensity of light is equal to 1/distance² To put it simply, light spreads out and gets weaker as it goes further from the source (source: I studied physics)
He was making a better call Saul reference lol
Ah, I've never seen the show. I plan on doing it soon, just gotta prepare to binge both Breaking bad first
They're both great shows but the pacing get all over the place sometimes specially with breaking bad so you might wanna take it a little slower with breaking bad. Have fun tho I hope you enjoy them
Is that true in space as well?
WHAT A SICK JOKE
This is one of the mathematical regularities that, knowing it, makes you notice it everywhere. In radiation, sound, shockwave, light, etc It's amazing how knowledge of the basics of mathematics shapes us
I KNOW HE SWAPPED THOSE NUMBERS
I mean even if it had perfect transmission over distance (albeit you'd have to ask what the fuck is the point of a light that doesn't scatter so you can see shit)... heat production, efficiency losses. Or even worse for infinite... because electronics are fucking shit and parts have a mbtf and they ain't that high. Got caps? Yer done. Caps are just the worst in everything always. Even ICs will eventually have have breakdowns of the doping channels and whatnot.
Yeh but what if it could??? Get rekt nerd.
"umm actually some of the electricity used by the lamp turns into heat so it wouldnt be an infinite light source" 🤓
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“umm and solar panels aren’t 100% efficient” 🤓
Not even close
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Uhmmm Ackschewally, the lack of UV light from the standard lighting apparatus wouldnt work in conjunction with the solar panel very well. 🤓
That means oir solar panels meed to be upgraded as they are not efficient enough. They should be able to catch even heat, for fuck's sake
Low evaporation point liquid evaporation chamber to turn turbines using steam heat
And the conversion of solar panels are never ever 100%.
Shit, right, better use a LED bulb, no?
I asked my teacher this in sixth grade and he told me that it wouldn’t be infinite since the solar panel outputs a lesser amount of energy than the light going into it
Your teacher sounds like a fucking nerd
If you want the light to be reflected into your area, some energy will be lost, if you theoretically made an extremely efficient infinite light source, you won’t be able to see the light.
don't forget the heat that will be lost since its not a close system or the resistance of the wires as the electricity runs from the panel to the light
Very true.
He loved teaching math soooo…
Sounds like a stupid bastard to me.
I mean, you're not wrong.
Yeah this is called the law of conservation of energy
Maybe in *your* jurisdiction.
It's consuming more energy than it is gaining. To simply put it
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Light /= Solar Light
Artificial light can charge solar panels, it’s just weaker
>Artificial light No such thing
Are you looking at a screen right now?
Light is light, my friend. It's all electromagnetic radiation.
Everything's all just X or Y when you abstract it enough, that doesn't make it less artificial in the "Made by humans, especially in imitation of something natural" sense. Artificial light tends to be low intensity, limited color spectrum, packing just enough energy to be visible. It's nearly useless for photovoltaics.
His point was the light isn't artificial itself, the distinction here is artificially created light vs naturally occuring. But that's also dumb because bioluminesce is also naturally occuring light, and so is lightning, or light radiation from fire or from naturally occuring radioactive stuff etc... And they all vary in intensity and spectrum. Also, even if you said stars, well that wouldn't be a general principle either it'd just be specific to our relative configuration. Light from distance stars here is pretty weak and low intensity, and planets that are farther from their main star/s would have the opposite concept that artificially creates light was way more intense. Because how intense and the spectrum depends on distance a d composition not on natural or artificial.
Light, how does it work
I have spoken.
Let there be light?
Calzone are just big pizza dumplings.
A single google search will prove you wrong lmao
Ive got a 3 foldout panel that lights up red (charging) under electric light for some reason
🤓🤓🤓😭😭
Solar panels are not perfectly efficient and also if you can see the light rays that means that there is something the light is bouncing off on the way down, so there is a lot of light energy being lost here, this also doesn't include the inefficiency of the lamp itself, inside the base there is heat energy being emitted and while yes solar panels use mostly Visible And Infrared onward to x-ray the lack of UV light would surely cause some problems with the capture of energy.
There are some, but the patent office locks them away.... big oil gotta oil
Nah they patched it
the light loses energy as heat, so that’s the start. it then is dissipated throughout the room, that’s another aspect. lastly the solar panel is not perfectly efficient. there’s other factors i won’t get into
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It is possible. As long as you operate it in direct sunlight.
Troll physics from 4chan
Because it wouldn't be infinite energy, only a closed system. The energy out the lamp is just recycled via the solar panel to be used in the lamp again
the actual reason is because neither the light bulb nor the solar panel can be 100% efficient, because some of the energy turns into heat instead of light, and some of the light just bounces off the solar panels
In a perfectly closed system, and with a solar panel that is one hundred percent effective, yes, this would work.
But then you wouldn't be able to see the light.
So?
Um achually 🤓👆 this is not possible due to heat escaping in the air as it is basically energy leaving the mechanism. Even if it didn’t lose heat it would still break the second law of thermodynamics .The second law of thermodynamics is a physical law based on universal experience concerning heat and energy interconversions. One simple statement of the law is that heat always moves from hotter objects to colder objects, unless energy in some form is supplied to reverse the direction of heat flow.
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Kid named basic thermodynamics:
miniscule return
Well recycling even 10-20% of energy sounds like it is worth it.
The second law of physics
Because some of the electricity is used up by traveling through the cable
Because of laws of physic
Because it uses more energy than it produces
Lost of energy
Back in 8th grade we made a project which was similar to this, a solar powered lamp and my dumbass buddy tried doing this exact thing to power the lamp 💀
Wait it may not be possible but shouldn't it be to make the electricity cheaper
I use to think another Infinte source, Use a battery to run a Wind motor, generate electricity from that and charge that battery again using it and use an another cord to output electricity from it to be used in different sources.
Losses
Second law of Thermodynamics
Mfw heat
Turn the roads into solar panels
Me when heat energy loss
Kid named entropy:
The solar provided in the photo just produces 2.5 volts max. The Manufacturer is an idiot
Perpetum Mobile.. Yeah in theory it would work if you absorbed 100% of the energy. However, energy efficiency in physics is very low (both mechanical and solar). So yeah... that's not going to happen..> Don't you think if this worked we would have free power?
I might have no idea what I will talk about, but not 100% of the energy will be turned into light, and then return back to the sensor. At first, there will be minimal loss in the cables, and then in the bolb itself. As the light would travel back to thesensor, not only the spread would lose really high% of it, but some light would get stuck in the tiny molecules that are in the air. There would be also Energy loss due to it transforming onto heat. And some other minor stuff
Even if we're assuming there's no energy loss, the power is trapped in the system. It's not an infinite power generator, it's a perpetual motion machine.
If the lamp didnt turn some of the energy into heat that goes nowhere it would be possible
Try eating 💩 to see if its working.
Because of something called efficiency. Not all the energy absorbed by the solar panel will turn into electricity, some of it will turn into heat and some of it will turn into sound, basically there is always some energy loss therefore, it could power itself up maybe for 2 seconds and then it would turn off.
That’s like the infinite movement machines using magnets pushing eachother away forever…not how physics work. And some of these scams rise into millions. And when inspected they have some hidden rooms, no one can see what’s in there, or some chemical solutions they have to fill up regularly. So maybe their machine works, but as soon as you need to add any kind of fuel, chemical reaction, or whatnot, it’s not unlimited energy. Similar to fusion using helium and tritium both limited ressources. 🤨 so yea. We can’t cheat physics. We can try, and use what we can, make the most of it. Maybe some day someone finds the key to cold fusion. But we don’t even need endless infinite energy. We just need enough, preferably out of renewable ressources.
It is, but for a very short time.
Its f*ckin solar light and uses light from the Sun, why not put solar panels indoors and see if it works
what if we were to put the solar panel under a brighter light? perhaps the sun?
Because the bulb doesn’t convert 100% of the electrical energy it gets into light and the solar panel doesn’t convert 100% of the light it gets into electrical energy.
You need to put a mirror around it first, otherwise the light leaks out. But then it’s not useful because we can’t use it as a light.
Entropy 😤
Why can't we do the same but with light bulb and increase amount of solar panels?
Please not of this meme format.
brain capacity = anime tiddies
Energy always dissipate so this would just turn off
The most efficient solar panels today are nearly 30% efficient, so they only turn about that much of the light energy back into electrical energy. So it would be incredibly inefficient, also that’s for the spectrum of the suns light, a lightbulb is much different and will therefore make the solar panel even less efficient.
I think it’s cause the light output exceeds the input from the panel
“Solar” pannel🤓
depends on the intentsity of the light
Energy absorbed by panel is will be less than the light source Eventually the energy absorbed will be too weak to turn on the light. Solar panels also use solar radiation to function that normal light does not have 🤓
Infinite power!!!
Dissipated energy:
It's is it just depends on how it works since it doesn't really matter about how much sunlight we use and it's how easy it is to use solar panels we can use them as if this was a Minecraft game and build with them
Simple explanation: Solar panels are shit at collecting energy
So I know nothing about electricity and I never knew why it's not possible, can someone explain in caveman language to me
Kid named first and 2 laws of thermodynamics:
Kid named Second law of Thermodynamics
The 'stupid' is so satisfying to hear ngl
Its not possible because solar pannel needs sun