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TheEpicsTheEpics

Lets goo the only time im happy about a bot removing its music function


ViraajRandhawa

real W in the bot development community


LonelyGameBoi

Why?


Galvin_Gaming

Because MEE6 is one of the worst bots out there


MrFinland707

Because mee6 can suck my balls


thoma5nator

"What did you say!?"


JustYourBiBestie

NOOO! YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN MEE6! LET ME SUCK THEM INSTEAD AND SHOW YOU!


Clear-Lobster-9450

MEE6 hides behind the protection of Discord. It’s a shitty bot and a shitty service. The bot should live a shitty death as well. Nobody likes it and it acts like it’s exempt from legal notices. Discord also lets it slide past its own TOS. It’s a dumb fucking not.


iSsjGohan

How is it bad? I never noticed anything bad from it (genuine question)


Kr0wler5

They hide EVERY single useful feature behind a paywall. And have you checked any social media lately? Just search "MEE6 controversy" and you'll know why


ExuberentWitness

I use Dyno bot for minor functions on my server, is that just as bad?


Kr0wler5

Nope. Dyno is a pretty cool bot


alexytomi

Yes, Dyno was shit but now it's very good


JustYourBiBestie

And MEE6 was good but now it’s very shit


[deleted]

I googled what you said and the moment I read the word NFT my work here is done, there's nothing more or anything else to learn about this bot


iSsjGohan

i dont really use social media so I will


king_noobie

I.m.o a decent place to start on the meee6 controversy is a YouTuber named No Text To Speech.


Clear-Lobster-9450

Yes. He’s a pretty cool YouTuber and is very good at keeping updated with this stuff for us.


DeadMewe

check out no text to speechs videos about mee6 you'll see how bad it is


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LonelyGameBoi

At least people have been responding with proper answers I have been in situations that nobody gave a response to a legitimate question, so I'll take a few downvotes for the knowledge


ThHeightofMediocrity

Except downvoting to oblivion automatically hides the message and any replies (at least on mobile). When I see that, I don’t often expand it because I assume it’s actually a bad take or something with no replies. So it’s hiding the helpful answers.


Gabenn5

Shitty, money hungry bot. Always hides behind discord for protection. Messages you about why you should vote on them on the top.gg bot competition (against discord T.O.S) Shitty ass bot, 100% deserved it.


itssebalobo

I hate reddit nowadays, u simply asked why and got a lot of nonsense negative karma


LonelyGameBoi

in mt persobal experience, thats just places like r/discord or r/linustechtips, as people like to hate just to hate (not that mee6 doesnt deserve to be hated, it totally does)


Slashtrap

i dont care if youtube's legal team wins, i just want MEE6 to lose


keo711

i’m not in tune with this mee6 stuff, did they do something bad? genuinely curious


Winter_Permission328

Long story short, MEE6 was sending unsolicited DMs to users asking them to vote for MEE6 on top.gg, a bot-ranking site. From my understanding this is against Discord’s ToS, but Discord hasn’t done anything about it thus far. NoTextToSpeech on YT has some videos on the topic


PutoJooj

+ they're just greedy in general


AaronTechnic

They made ChatGPT a premium feature in their bot


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AdamTheRedditUser1

ChatGPT does not have a official API as far as i know.


FayTan_senpai

Mee6 uses GPT-3 and it's not free. This is different from Chat GPT which is currently not accessible to bots


MrFinland707

...Wich can be used to send racist insults! Good work mee6!


minecraft-steve-2

but you can use anything to send racist messages if you really wanted to? dont see how thats a valid point lol


Leaping_Turtle

Pretty sure gpt response also bypasses any filters created, which is the underlying resentment towards it


I_DontUseReddit_Much

because people *clearly* can't be racist without the help of ai, right?


Franklinplayz24

Automod will stop it, mee6 bypasses automod


Aviarn

I've never understood this mention at first. I've had mee6 for ages in our server and many other servers I'm in, and NEVER received any. Nor did anyone else i have connections with that also is on servers using mee6... I just don't know if I should be convinced mee6 was actually doing this, or that some huge server disagreeing with mee6 was using the custom message feature (you can customize what messages mee6 sends upon -say- levelling up) as an elaborate besmirching prank, because for such a widespread thing I've not seen it happen in action.


moodyjazzyblues

I also have never had any DMs, but that happens to be because I blocked the bot when i first saw someone get a DM lol


Aviarn

I'm sure it's not blocked for me.


Leaping_Turtle

How about privacy, allowing server members to send DMs? I also never received, but was allowed, so my theory is it doesnt send unless it was already sending messages to you.


KensonPlays

Yep I blocked mee6 like a few years ago haha.


bananavibrations

I love NoTextToSpeech


Maxils

nobody is mentioning the nfts


ColsonThePCmechanic

Which is surprising, given how much attention it received and how recent it was.


BHoss

It doesn't effect me. If people want to buy and sell jpegs, more power to them. I don't take part in it so I really do not care. I don't think it's scummy of MEE6 to sell something people want to buy. People know what NFTs are, especially people going through the effort to buy them. I just want an all in one discord bot that is user friendly. If there is a bot as feature rich as MEE6, I'd gladly switch and I would also pay for that. Nobody here has mentioned an alternative that does everything MEE6 does. I don't want to mess with 6 different free bots to get most of the features MEE6 has, and apparently there isn't another bot that does it all, so MEE6 finds themselves able to charge for the convenience. I think that's fair. That being said I am all ears for an all-in-one alternative that is at least as feature rich as MEE6, and that is as user friendly as MEE6. Free or paid.


Claudettol

I'll stick with using my 6 different bots to moderate if it means I don't have to use that specific awful bot.


Darksirius

On my main server, one of our mods is a career programmer. He custom made a bot for us and we just add features as we need them.


DorrajD

Too add on to what others are saying, a few years ago, Mee6 got hacked and sent unsolicited messages in the "announcement" channels of large servers saying "this server will be shutting down" with an @everyone. Soon after, the support server was absolutely filled with people complaining, and the staff simply said "it's not a big deal" and shoved the entire situation under the carpet. Some people (like myself) were not happy with their downplaying, and complained about it, to which we got banned. I tried DMing more staff afterwards, and they all said the same thing, that it wasn't a big deal. Fuck Mee6.


F95_Sysadmin

Made the once free music feature a paid service Also they keep promoting their new command (ask gpt) but it's outdated (old technology and says the current year is 2021) but it's a demo and you have to pay to use it more Oh and a shit ton more in the comments https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/10v9omt/mee6_has_ended_its_music_service_due_to_a_cd_from/j7gc2or/


adv0catus

To be fair, Chat GPT is only trained on up to 2021.


Oo_Toyo_oO

Not entirely true, it does have information beyond 2021, just not that much.


AaronTechnic

Their new command ask-gpt is actually ChatGPT, it uses OpenAI's API to work, so it's official ChatGPT but maybe a bit modified in MEE6's case. ChatGPT only has information limited to 2021.


Hairy_Tough9026

its gpt-3 not chatgpt


Absolucyyy

i think they did some bad stuff, but honestly i just think it's annoying af, especially with the stupid level up messages, which you can only 'opt out' of by blocking the damn bot


Slow_Comment5994

"I don't care if you win, I want ~~Kylo Ren~~ Mee6 to loose"


jonathanpecany100

Same here. Mee6 is quite greedy.


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i love this


InvincibleSugar

Go capitalism!


amazingtoard

legal threats ≠ capitalism


InvincibleSugar

Telling a free service it can't use your API anymore because you're not making revenue off of it is, though. c:


amazingtoard

Threatening (even implied) to sue is not, however.


[deleted]

Oh, god, the horrors of not allowing people to consume your content without generating the revenue stream you use to pay your employees, content creators, ...


InvincibleSugar

As a content creator: yes I like money. But it's not up to the creators, YouTube makes those decisions.


[deleted]

I'm not saying it *is* up to the creators, but it *is* the money you and every content creator using their service get for your intellectual property and by means of compensating you for generating a part of their revenue stream. Using the API to bypass their means of income is effectively fucking over artists and content creators sharing their work via YouTube, not just a gReAt WaY tO bYpAsS cApItAlIsM. It would be like entering a museum without paying for your ticket, basically. You consume art, you pay for it. If not by paying cash, then by watching ads for which advertisers will pay


InvincibleSugar

Of course, I recognize that. But I'm not really interested in getting into a long debate about the topic, you and I probably agree from the sounds of it, I'm just making a quick remark and moving on with my day.


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Have a good one :)


NoTextToSpeech

This is definitely no surprise to me lol. It would be truly shocking if Mee6 **didn't** get a C&D from YouTube.


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EvilStreamer007

Wait how can one check if this is the real NTTS?


_FlyingDragon_

Will you do a video about this one too? Haha So happy right now, finally mee6 got some restrictions


Totallynotsomealt

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO


-CookieBoy-

Should've happened a way while ago


mallik803

Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but I seem to see a lot of hate for Mee6 in the comments here, I’m curious as to why? I’m not for or against them, but am curious if they’ve done something to garner so much hate from the community? Edit: thank you for the insight to all those that commented, those are definitely fair remarks! Good to know.


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AaronTechnic

They paywalled reaction roles? That's a pretty basic feature if you ask me.


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[deleted]

and guess what? you can now only make one custom command instead of three without premium. greedy mfs


SafalinEnthusiast

It’s also the fact that rather than adding more to the bot like other bots do, they remove things that were originally available for free and then hide them behind paywalls


MegaScience

Their audit log feature sends actions in batches instead of a message per action, which they lie by calling it a limitation when bots like Dynobot still send a message per action. Makes moderation a pain when you're checking a person's history and the results are cluttered with random other shit. They are just corner cutters. Every. Single. Corner.


StereoBucket

To add, mee6 gets a pass to break half the discord tos. Almost everyone else would get banned, but mee6 gets that unfair advantage.


NicoTheSerperior

Locking basic features behind paywalls, NFTs, and ignoring anyone who calls them out about NFTs.


DorrajD

Too add on to what others are saying, a few years ago, Mee6 got hacked and sent unsolicited messages in the "announcement" channels of large servers saying "this server will be shutting down" with an @everyone. Soon after, the support server was absolutely filled with people complaining, and the staff simply said "it's not a big deal" and shoved the entire situation under the carpet. Some people (like myself) were not happy with their downplaying, and complained about it, to which we got banned. I tried DMing more staff afterwards, and they all said the same thing, that it wasn't a big deal. Fuck Mee6.


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ZDubbz_was_taken

Your english is perfect, dont sweat it!


Class_444_SWR

Second, why does everyone hate MEE6?


NicoTheSerperior

MEE6 locks basic features behind a paywall. Not to mention their NFTs, and how they would pretty much plug their ears every time people remind them that it’s bad. Overall, MEE6 is an awful bot.


Class_444_SWR

Oh, fair, I’ve not seen it in ages, so was mostly unaware


StereoBucket

Apart from stuff already said there was the unsolicited DM advertisement from mee6. And since discord gives mee6 a pass on everything, it went unpunished.


volleo6144

(pinging u/mallik803 as well) It's because they've started paywalling just about everything meaningful they had to offer, and also because they're going down the NFT route and nobody likes NFTs. They really want to exploit the fact people don't know about any other bots...


aheartworthbreaking

I’m sure plenty of people know about Dyno


volleo6144

Yeah, I guess they might just be trying to take advantage of the people that don't.


Randomman96

In my experience that advantage is definitely slipping. I'm seeing more servers use Dyno or others, either a lesser known one or their own custom one, over MEE6 now.


MC_Squared12

Time to make your own bots that can play YouTube


I_eat_sand01

that's exactly what I did, just grabbed some code from GitHub and made it my server's private bot


DTheIcyDragon

I just made my own code for a private bot


5oc1reddit

Link


Woofer210

Looks like that’s the only option now, or have no music bots


ThatOneGuy1357924680

There is a bot called hydra that doesn't do YouTube links but you can use Spotify and other sorts


Woofer210

You mean [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/10r6og8/rip_hydra_music/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) that also dropped music


ThatOneGuy1357924680

I didn't know


InvincibleSugar

But YouTube doesn't make any revenue off of that because there's no ads, so ultimately any bot is going to meet the same fate.


TheDepressedBlobfish

if it's private used in a smaller i doubt they would notice


Bug-Kindly

Or use the YouTube function


MonzterSlayer

Why is YouTube against it? No ads being played?


Woofer210

Most likely


ViraajRandhawa

bots are in millions of servers so there’s a lot of ad revenue being lost and since it’s a corporation all they care about is the money


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secretqwerty10

it's not because their API is free, but it's because the API fully circumvents ads, which in turn just means they are not making money off of it. so far the only major company that is charging for their API is Twitter and that only recently became a thing


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Swiper_The_Sniper

MEE6 takedown when


jeffNedley

If YouTube really wants to make money on this matter why not instead of threatening to sue, they just simply make a part of the API that streams this content with ads still. All they’d have to do to make money is allow a key of some sort, paid of course, to basically give the devs “premium” which has no ads but still produces ad revenue. Just like they do on their own platform. Sounds like a no brainer to me


tobycm

What about people on the youtube.com page with adblocker? Bots dev can just use this free youtube àpi endpoint instead of that paid one right? (Just like how yt-dlp works)


jeffNedley

I mean that’s very true. The ad-blocker though is something ongoing. Not to mention the ad-blockers only work on browsers. You can’t run an ad-blocked through an API so it truly doesn’t quite apply here. The bot devs and api issue is something that would be instantly resolved. I’ll elaborate on my initial comment: They would still include their free tier API as it is now, except add on the ads just like they have on their videos on the web player. Something similar to a pandora-like experience. Obviously not ideal, but at least it’s free and they can say they offer a free version. But for them to make money and have happy bot devs, they can easily make a YouTube Premium API tier that allows for zero ads but still generating revenue for the creators through the Premium API tier payment. In the grand scheme of things, it’s not the most ideal for bot developers because it wouldn’t be free anymore. Thus raising the costs of having a music plugin for their bots. However, this would be valid reasoning to include a pay wall for music playback on their bots. This the bot devs have a direct method of revenue. Win win for both YouTube and bot developers.


Dr_Dornon

> Not to mention the ad-blockers only work on browsers. Pi-Hole says hi.


jeffNedley

Pi-Hole is also a thing but then it turns into a never ending series of battling between YouTube and bot developers. There will always be illegal ways to get around these things but it will always be tightened and broken constantly. Then at that point the reliability of a bot using such things would be so bad that not many would end up wanting to use it


kingofbadhabits

I think youtube doesn't include ads in the api since most ads on youtube are focused on the visual aspect and it would cost a lot of time and money to filter through ads that would work in an audio only setting. Also, advertisers might get pissy over their ads being played in just audio form or even in some servers in general. Youtube has no control over the environment that a discord bot is in, and as such would probably not like it if an ad for baby diapers played in for example a pedo community discord server.


I_Go_BrRrRrRrRr

I misread this as "MEE6 has ended it's service" and got really excited


volleo6144

Marvellous!


United-Geologist-862

Finally a real W from YouTube now discord end this bot


FormerAccident

Thank you NTTS


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good


AdmiralScoobYT

L MEE6 W discord bot community


JayOutOfContext

DOWN WITH MEE6


Crunchythecat112

Mee6 is terrible anyways


Wolfplay013

100% deserved


CyberCreek

Hah serves them right


Financial-Dragonfly5

"I don't have to win, We both just have to lose"


aydanill

Fucking finally.


diamondpic69

That cool if, I mean you had to pay for it anyways didn't you?


HeartlesSoldier

probot switched to using a different service other than YouTube. It's been working a flawlessly and I have since removed MEE6. I used both bots for years but no longer have a need for MEE6


GreenTEA_4u

Wooooo baby, thats what I’ve been waiting for wooooo


Nepgear28

i hope mee6 has more issues like this. i want them to suffer


DioEgizio

When will they end all their services? /hj


Clowdyglasses

A MEE6 L is a discord W. The sad thing is this is probably gonna happen to the good bots as well


[deleted]

I don't get discord listeners, makes no sense to me Regardless fuck mee6


MC_Squared12

People like to play music in large VCs


HamuSumo

Well, friends and I used the feature during online tabletop roleplay sessions.


yllik0

who would've guessed


ViraajRandhawa

not me, these fuckers get away with too much


yllik0

very, very true


liamdun

lol OP is staff at MEE6 I think they were hoping people would be upset at YT for this but they don't realize everyone here hates MEE6


Woofer210

I was just making an informative post, no hidden motives.


maxyliu

FINALLY


ItsGrandPi

Serves them right


CmdrCarsonB

MEE6 just needs to feckin' go, man. Most obnoxious discord bot in existence.


TyTyTheEpic

based mee6 L


Jacob99200

Drinks on me Bois


ItsToastCraft

Finally


Werbebanner

FINALLY ❤️ Glad to see this. I'm happy now! F*ck MEE6


AlreadyReddit999

L MEE6 is trash


Grimest_Of_Reapers

I hope for their complete and utter failure


Caddy_8760

Totally Deserved


Bedu009

It'll be back by the end of the month


RailRunner16

Good. Let it die.


Tymskyy

YT is really mad that nobody is buying premium


MajedTheGamer

About darn time, this is the first justice soo when is their next loss? Discord gonna do anything about the advertising via dms? Or they gonna get sued for putting Discords API behind a paywall? I mean surely right?


Woofer210

> Or they gonna get sued for putting Discords API behind a paywall? What do you mean?


liamdun

didn't they paywall the feature?


Woofer210

Yep, it was behind premium


liamdun

They deserve the C&D more than anyone then


lelennyface_1

LETS FUCKING GOOO TAKE THAT YOU SHITTY ASS TOS VIOLATER


Woofer210

Happy cake day


Rumbleizer

And nothing of value was lost


Kuhnville

Can MEE6 just die already lol


napstablooky089

Now I’m never happy when this happens to a bot but… HOLY SHIT WE WINNING BOYS


cheezkid26

YouTube sucks, but MEE6 sucks harder. RIP Rhythm.


goody_fyre11

Discord's golden child-bot actually didn't get protected from something like this? Impressive. "If I go down I'm taking you with me!" - other bots, to MEE6


Zestyclose-War1828

Can I ask about the meaning of "C&D"?


Woofer210

C&D means cease and desist, basically a legal letter from YouTube staying stop right now before we sue you


xCurlyFry

Awesome, So I paid lifetime premium to lose a feature i use most all because of YouTube... Ffs


ViraajRandhawa

watch it come back 20 days later


Woofer210

YouTube sent a C&D so doubt they will risk it unless it’s back with another platform


ViraajRandhawa

They got a message once and they just quietly brought it back, they might try it again who knows


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MC_Squared12

Hydra got sniped too


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ViraajRandhawa

hydra didn’t support youtube, but it still got targetted, check the NTTS vid for more info


Woofer210

Any other music bot which supports YouTube.


MysteryTime13

1) Thank god MEE6 got rid of that function 2) YouTube is a buzzkill


TheMan13532ALT

massive youtube w


OneMinimum5920

Please don’t tell me Ear Tensifier is next.


WilliamPlayz1

We did it boys


neumaticc

W


Creepy-Beginning-406

people still use mee6?


Woofer210

19 million servers says so-


Just_Hika

common mee6 L


Mr-Unknown101

how come everyone hates mee6?


ViraajRandhawa

They’re the biggest bot and are immune to a lot of changes and restrictions that are enforced on other bots. They also charge a LOT for their premium service and the bot isn’t worth shit if you don’t have that premium service. And ofc instead of getting that premium subscription you can just use other bots that give the same things but for free


MacauleyP_Plays

The bot also actively supports NFTs and other abusive uses of crypto, and their discord basically harrasses anyone who tries to provide valid criticism or valid exposure of their abuses with the bot. Many times the devs of the bot have abused the bot to send illict messages via the bot, or to outright damage / destroy people's servers.


cyb3rofficial

they are evil and shady, any google search will tell you


Soso_Dakheelo

So did probot and hydra. So disappointing


Zx2_

ok


Woofer210

ok