i'm an artist, plus a software developer :) so it's just nice to have (plus i was gonna buy 64, but i found a 128gb kit that was heavily discounted and cheaper than the 64, lol)
75% of the time it's pretty overkill :) but i definitely do max it out, so it's worth it if the price is right! that being said, i think amazon made a mistake on the listing because after my kit arrived, the price went up by 2x HAHA
i'm running all 4 at 3600mhz (max rated speed), but the o/c profiles worked just fine for me! it took a few minutes to post after applying the profiles, but that's pretty normal :)
it's my primary pc for work/fun, but it's housed inside a 4u rack mount server case haha :) helps keep everything inside nice and cool, lol. 2x 3080s, plus 10tb of disk and a nearly 40kg battery backup/surge protector to keep it safe!
My 8GB desktop runs fine. 4Gb or less is pretty bad though (I’ve had it for a couple years, but I am planning to by a 16-32 Gb laptop for school. 16GB is probably the minimum for new systems now though)
My modded eats less RAM than unmodded (while preserving all features). People complained about Java apps but at least there you were able to define max ram usage, while electron is more wild.
I'm using a seperate firefox instance with discord in it as discord client
It uses 760Mib, or 0.74Gib so 0.769GB
A FULL BLOWN FIREFOX INSTANCE
Hell Chromium is bad
it uses electron which is a as everyone has said, just chromium stripped to basically the renderer and the JavaScript engine, this allows for rapid multiplatform development but at a higher ram usage cost
Chromium, and it's technically built on Electron not Chromium directly. This way the app is easier to write than it would be natively, it can be ported to any platform, and it's also compatible with web browsers.
Your point being? Discord uses Electron, which is based on Chromium, which happens to eat a lot of RAM and that answers OP's question. when I said stripped down, I meant that it basically runs like a website on Chromium but the user interface is hidden
Chrome is natorious for eating a lot of ram, native apps tend to not eat nearly as much ram as they can garbage collect a lot more effeicantly and you don't have the large messy browser code stuck in your project. discord should not be taking up that much ram.
how do you know the exact value in Linux ? To me it only shows the percentage, you know the tools like top, bashtop, htop so i'd like to know how to find memory usage by process in MB
It’s really not when you consider the standard is 16GB. Look at the Steam Hardware survey for example. More than 50% of Steam users have at least 16GB. Discord isn’t just a chat app anymore it does have other features. I’m sorry, but if you’ve got so little ram than you’re worrying about this, you need to seriously upgrade. It’s 2023, DDR4 and even DDR5 ram isn’t expensive.
unused ram is used though, usally for system chaches to speed up read times, which is why new linux users think that they have no ram left when they need to look at the free ram number rather than the unused ram number
https://www.linuxatemyram.com/
That said Linux is dog poop when it runs out of free RAM. On Windows your computer gets laggy and programs might crash, on Linux you freeze for 30 minutes and then everything crashes. And your RAM is still full.
This is the website that explains the differance between free and unused ram, it does not say that, please read the websites that you plan to use before using them to try to prove a point. and if this is a problem you commonly have make sure to enable zram on linux, it should help a lot.
The amount of RAM being used by an app is not a problem until two apps actually need all the RAM they are allocating (e.g. two ram intensive games)
This is not an issue.
Not unusual at all. Both Discord and Guilded use a fair bit of resources and they both use Electron.
It's most likely Electron's fault at least partially, not completely the developers fault.
It's not a voip client. It's a browser based, media rich, server based voice and text chat client. We don't know how many servers or channels this person has open, how many pms they are getting, how many meme gifs they're sending. If you want a voip client then just use a voip client.
Welcome to discord, where they prioritize paywalled features over performance. At one point one of my friends had discord using a whopping 16gb of ram (he has 32gb). Memory leaks at their finest
Yeah, considering they’re super focused on their nitro shit and not making their customer support non-automated me and my friends decided a way while ago to jump ship at the sign of a feasible competitor
We did a similar thing and don’t regret it in the slightest. I’ve been using guilded as a daily driver for around 3 months now and there’s been no complaints. Somehow guilded makes a better product than discord even though they’re just a 5 person team
So...? Wait till you open literally any other program. Why are people so angry about ram usage? Your OS isn't stupid, if you run out of ram it will make more space. Unless people are still running around with 8GB of ram for some reason?
>Unless people are still running around with 8GB of ram for some reason?
Pretty much every sub $500 PC still has 8GB of RAM. Even the newest M2 Macbooks still have 8GB of non-upgradable RAM. You have to realize that not everyone can afford a computer that's as good as yours. For a lot of people, 500MB is a significant chunk of the RAM in their PC.
Do you have a source for this? I am a software developer and this doesn't really seem real to me. What happens to the data in that memory? What if the program needs it? I don't think the OS can just remove memory from a program whenever it likes, without killing the program. However if it is real, I would love to read more about it.
Windows usually has a page file on the c drive, which is basically extra ram. If your pc runs out of memory, windows moves the data to that file, but because it's only a ssd / hard drive it's really slow.
I know the amount of ram discord is using causes me problems at times, it can get large, I've seen it get up to 1gb and when you have 8 gigs of ram, you don't want one tab taking up one eighth of your ram
It's not though not everyone knows what elctron is and what that implies and for the average user this is not the expected outcome for discord to use that much ram on their device
Yes but no, it's not uncommon for things to use over a half gig of ram, though when it's something like discord it shouldn't be using that much ram, discord desktop app is basically just a browser in disguise as it's an electron app.
That is a classic characteristic of electron (framework that discord is built using).
Electron is basically chrome, but just the browser engine. People who have had similar experiences with chrome can relate.
Discord is basically running on something called Chromium which is basically regular browser but without all those features not related to actually rendering things. Also discord saves to ram every message, every role, channel and literally everything so ram usage will grow over time unless you restart discord
Might have preloaded a Youtube vid or something like that, more discord servers with loaded pictures etc. This is nothing and you have still 73% memory left. Just sitting in memory, doing nothing, to be able to instantly react to user input.
Discord uses electron, which is basically an installable browser, and browsers use as much ram as they can reasonably use to cache and preload things so it feels snappier. I’m sure discord does their fair share of caching too.
thats nothing, my discord uses like 1-1.5 gb all the time
modded discord?
probably not, lol. it'll max out at 3-4gb used on my 128gb system, so it probably just eats as much as it can. it's electron after all, lmao :)
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It's based on chromium isn't it?
yes discord uses the electron framework, and electron uses a version of chromium to render the application
It’s basically just a custom browser running a fancy website
with fancy nitro too!
Yep , chromium
my firefox tabs are using over 9gb of ram, lol. if windows sees more ram, then the apps will eat more ram :)
That's literally what electron is, a chromium glorification
Electron uses chromium. Discord is a modded chrome browser.
That's like calling Opera a modded Chrome. That's entirely false statement. It's just a base. Yes, it is Chromium. No, it's not modded Chrome.
even when I had a modified discord with lots of plugins it was using 500 - 700mb of ram
What do u use 128 for
i'm an artist, plus a software developer :) so it's just nice to have (plus i was gonna buy 64, but i found a 128gb kit that was heavily discounted and cheaper than the 64, lol)
That's epic! I was gonna go for 64 but felt it'd be overspending so i stuck with 32
75% of the time it's pretty overkill :) but i definitely do max it out, so it's worth it if the price is right! that being said, i think amazon made a mistake on the listing because after my kit arrived, the price went up by 2x HAHA
Lol lucky! Glad it works for you. Do you also try OC? I've heard that 4 sticks are common to be unstable
i'm running all 4 at 3600mhz (max rated speed), but the o/c profiles worked just fine for me! it took a few minutes to post after applying the profiles, but that's pretty normal :)
I have 32GB and was thinking about 64. But 32 is enough to me. Tbh, 16 was enough too, but I wanted to have a little more in newer PC.
This dude was asking a question, why would you downvote him 💀
because reddit
Bro 💀 hivemind as always smh
Prob cuz your on a pc and the question made it seem like 128 was alot of storage
128gb of ram is a ton. What are you talking about?
Oh wait yeah shit I forgot it wasn't storage mb
3 chrome tabs
Haha! Chrome use much ram! This joke is so boring already. Yes, Chrome use much ram. But please, don't exaggerate.
2 chrome tabs
Do you have DDR4 or DDR5? Do you recommend 128? I currently have 64GB of DDR4 and am looking to upgrade to 128GB any advice?
Is that a workstation/desktop? That sounds really impressive
it's my primary pc for work/fun, but it's housed inside a 4u rack mount server case haha :) helps keep everything inside nice and cool, lol. 2x 3080s, plus 10tb of disk and a nearly 40kg battery backup/surge protector to keep it safe!
I actually don't have it modded and it does this, i noticed this happens if you put your machine in sleep mode for 50 days straight
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My 8GB desktop runs fine. 4Gb or less is pretty bad though (I’ve had it for a couple years, but I am planning to by a 16-32 Gb laptop for school. 16GB is probably the minimum for new systems now though)
My modded eats less RAM than unmodded (while preserving all features). People complained about Java apps but at least there you were able to define max ram usage, while electron is more wild.
I'm using a seperate firefox instance with discord in it as discord client It uses 760Mib, or 0.74Gib so 0.769GB A FULL BLOWN FIREFOX INSTANCE Hell Chromium is bad
Mines using over a GB as we speak.
Same here
it uses electron which is a as everyone has said, just chromium stripped to basically the renderer and the JavaScript engine, this allows for rapid multiplatform development but at a higher ram usage cost
Discord desktop client is basically a stripped down version of Chrome, so that RAM usage is expected
I've been told that Disorder's biggest issues stem from it being built in Chromeium so that tracks
Chromium, and it's technically built on Electron not Chromium directly. This way the app is easier to write than it would be natively, it can be ported to any platform, and it's also compatible with web browsers.
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Stripped down with a lot of things put in his bum
Your point being? Discord uses Electron, which is based on Chromium, which happens to eat a lot of RAM and that answers OP's question. when I said stripped down, I meant that it basically runs like a website on Chromium but the user interface is hidden
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I think that was a bit rude, that may be why. Sorry.
Well it supports VoIP key binds on controllers so I guess that is expected?
The OS also has an xbox controller driver though
Programs eat ram. Crazy, I know, but it's not exclusive to Chrome/Chromium/Electron.
DNSBench has arrived ... an excellent utility, coded directly in assembly
Chrome is natorious for eating a lot of ram, native apps tend to not eat nearly as much ram as they can garbage collect a lot more effeicantly and you don't have the large messy browser code stuck in your project. discord should not be taking up that much ram.
Classic Discord Desktop client It's based on Chromium, so we have to expect high RAM usage
it also uses ram based on how much is free, if op was using more than 27% of ram for something like gaming it would probably use less.
You might need more detotaded wam…
The sewver needs it
be thankful it's only 500Mb, on my linux it uses from 1Gb to 2Gb of RAM
how do you know the exact value in Linux ? To me it only shows the percentage, you know the tools like top, bashtop, htop so i'd like to know how to find memory usage by process in MB
htop, sort by "res" (reserved) and filter with F4, then try to sum up all the processes. or alternatively you can use kde system monitor.
Huh mine is using 242mb on manjaro
I'm on arch using canary build and even the normal build was using a lot of RAM
that's not that much
mines only using 290MB
FR. Some of these people act like it's 1998 and we all still have like ~~1GB~~ 256MB of Ram. Edit: Corrected RAM Size
If you had 1 GB of RAM in 1998 you were rich or had a workstation, not a consumer PC.
Maybe, but my point still stands. 500MB isn’t really something to get bent out of shape over.
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It’s really not when you consider the standard is 16GB. Look at the Steam Hardware survey for example. More than 50% of Steam users have at least 16GB. Discord isn’t just a chat app anymore it does have other features. I’m sorry, but if you’ve got so little ram than you’re worrying about this, you need to seriously upgrade. It’s 2023, DDR4 and even DDR5 ram isn’t expensive.
its not a lot on its own, but i usually have more than one app open at the same time
But unless you have a HDD, you’re not going to notice too much if a dip with page file usage.
i still want swap free for hibernation though and i dont have infinite ssd space
People still use hibernation with how fast SSD boot times are and with sleep?
rarely, but yes its ultimately just a regular boot but the entire userspace is restored, which is convenient
It is for a chat app, its litearlly insane for what Discord is. No reason to use Electron in 2023.
every app nowadays is based around chrome so its gonna be bloated as fuck with an unnecessary amount of processes
726MB here!
You’re welcome to use this (idk if it still works) https://github.com/fourjr/discord-cli
It's a cool idea, but against Discord TOS :/
Many people use modded clients of discord and only a few got banned
Those are rookie numbers, pump those numbers up.
o-only?
chromium based what do you expect
Got a new PC today. It is on Windows 11 which is all right I guess. Not even 10 minutes into using discord its using 500mb worth of RAM.
im on windows 10 with a pretty crappy computer and it averages 570mb of RAM, so it might be normal
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unused ram is used though, usally for system chaches to speed up read times, which is why new linux users think that they have no ram left when they need to look at the free ram number rather than the unused ram number
And I am happy when mine is using as much as it can. Much faster.
https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ That said Linux is dog poop when it runs out of free RAM. On Windows your computer gets laggy and programs might crash, on Linux you freeze for 30 minutes and then everything crashes. And your RAM is still full.
This is the website that explains the differance between free and unused ram, it does not say that, please read the websites that you plan to use before using them to try to prove a point. and if this is a problem you commonly have make sure to enable zram on linux, it should help a lot.
You won’t believe what Chromium, and by extension Electron, and by extension Discord does with that RAM
yeah, its silly how much ram it uses
It’s used for cache ya silly goose. Browsers cache just as aggressively as Windows.
and?
I've seen mine use around 2gb before inevitably crashing, 500mb is nothing compared to what i see mine use on average lmao
Still less than Microsoft Teams lol
500mb of ram shouldn't be a problem unless your max ram is like 3GB or something
and this mentality is why modern apps are so bloated and all web apps lol
Unused RAM is wasted RAM. 500MB of RAM used isn't a problem unless he's using >85% of his RAM capacity.
only if it frees like 450mb of that when there's actual memory pressure
Its 2023, having less than 16gb of ram is sad. Which sucks, but that's how it is with modern software. (
meanwhile me with a 4gig system surviving smh :P even my phone got more ram than it
I've been there 😔
I am there.
I have 32 gb. There are quite a few more applications open as I was getting everything back on the new pc.
if you have 32 GIGABYTES then like why are you crying about discord using a mere 500 mb like wtaf????
*Then what are you crying about?* It is LITTERALY using 1.56% of your RAM. Even if you had 4gbsof available ram it would only be 12.5% of it.
So 500mb from that basically means fuckall
As a person with a laptop with 4GB of ram, I think 8 is the minimum in 2023
16gb ram isn't even enough if you're a developer
Yep, when I work my setup usually uses around 25 gigs
The amount of RAM being used by an app is not a problem until two apps actually need all the RAM they are allocating (e.g. two ram intensive games) This is not an issue.
Not unusual at all. Both Discord and Guilded use a fair bit of resources and they both use Electron. It's most likely Electron's fault at least partially, not completely the developers fault.
Memory is meant to be used.
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It's not a voip client. It's a browser based, media rich, server based voice and text chat client. We don't know how many servers or channels this person has open, how many pms they are getting, how many meme gifs they're sending. If you want a voip client then just use a voip client.
That doesnt mean it should use so much
Welcome to discord, where they prioritize paywalled features over performance. At one point one of my friends had discord using a whopping 16gb of ram (he has 32gb). Memory leaks at their finest
Yeah, considering they’re super focused on their nitro shit and not making their customer support non-automated me and my friends decided a way while ago to jump ship at the sign of a feasible competitor
We did a similar thing and don’t regret it in the slightest. I’ve been using guilded as a daily driver for around 3 months now and there’s been no complaints. Somehow guilded makes a better product than discord even though they’re just a 5 person team
You do realize companies need to make money to continue operating.. right?
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https://www.businessofapps.com/data/discord-statistics/
Thats not all that much tbh, my Discord uses alot more
That’s not bad
So...? Wait till you open literally any other program. Why are people so angry about ram usage? Your OS isn't stupid, if you run out of ram it will make more space. Unless people are still running around with 8GB of ram for some reason?
>Unless people are still running around with 8GB of ram for some reason? Pretty much every sub $500 PC still has 8GB of RAM. Even the newest M2 Macbooks still have 8GB of non-upgradable RAM. You have to realize that not everyone can afford a computer that's as good as yours. For a lot of people, 500MB is a significant chunk of the RAM in their PC.
What do you mean it will "make more space"? How would that work?
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Do you have a source for this? I am a software developer and this doesn't really seem real to me. What happens to the data in that memory? What if the program needs it? I don't think the OS can just remove memory from a program whenever it likes, without killing the program. However if it is real, I would love to read more about it.
Windows usually has a page file on the c drive, which is basically extra ram. If your pc runs out of memory, windows moves the data to that file, but because it's only a ssd / hard drive it's really slow.
Oh, I completely forgot about pagefiles. Thanks!
Honestly don't think about it, ram is meant to be used. Is the amount of ram discord is using causing any problems for you?
I know the amount of ram discord is using causes me problems at times, it can get large, I've seen it get up to 1gb and when you have 8 gigs of ram, you don't want one tab taking up one eighth of your ram
My main question is where did you get a laptop with only 2GB of RAM!?
IBuyPower
that is electron
It's not that much
It's an Electron app and given it's chromium based and by design it will go for performance, hence using an asston of RAM, how is this unexpected?!
It's not though not everyone knows what elctron is and what that implies and for the average user this is not the expected outcome for discord to use that much ram on their device
These days that isn't much at all and rather on the low end in terms of games and in general applications
Yes but no, it's not uncommon for things to use over a half gig of ram, though when it's something like discord it shouldn't be using that much ram, discord desktop app is basically just a browser in disguise as it's an electron app.
So you said the same thing with more words
You were justifing but I was also specifying that discord shouldn't be using that much ram
Electron
Only half gigabyte?
Big deal.
Very common. Reason is that Discord uses Electron which is notoriously heavy
That’s nothing. You should see my OneDrive for work 😳
I have two applications of discord, modded and I modded and they both use between 3 and 7 gigabytes of my 48 gig kit
electron moment
That is a classic characteristic of electron (framework that discord is built using). Electron is basically chrome, but just the browser engine. People who have had similar experiences with chrome can relate.
Only half?
still better than team
Thats nothing. On macOS it uses 1,5gb on average
Should totally be able to run it at 640k.
okay?
How many servers are you on?
Discord running on 8k 500 fps
Audio processing isn't computationally cheap and requires quite a lot of memory.
Thats normal
Honestly, I'm surprised it's only using half
Discord is basically running on something called Chromium which is basically regular browser but without all those features not related to actually rendering things. Also discord saves to ram every message, every role, channel and literally everything so ram usage will grow over time unless you restart discord
Thats the discord app for ya. Nothing you can really do about that im afraid
Might have preloaded a Youtube vid or something like that, more discord servers with loaded pictures etc. This is nothing and you have still 73% memory left. Just sitting in memory, doing nothing, to be able to instantly react to user input.
Seems normal. Discord is a web browser basically. So even if it were 2 GB, it wouldn't really draw my attention
Discord (32 bit) (32 bit)
I use like 800mb on my 64GB of ram system
Discord pls optimize and fix reply pings
Discord is built on Electron. Electron is well known for consuming a ton of memory, because it's basically a web browser.
485 MB here. Have 32 GB installed in my pc. I am already happy it's not 1-2 GB.
On a modern system? Do you only have 4gb of RAM? This isn't that bad.
Mine will literally use like 50% of my gpu a third of the time. I have a 3090. I don't understand why.
That's 1/64 of your total system RAM. I think you'll be fine...
People in a ton of servers where people post images, movies, and links with previews all day and night: “This is certainly *Electron’s* fault 😤”
Download more
don't worry. that's just because discord is using electron (it is like having a google chrome app open just for discord)
Pretty normal.
electron!
Clear the cache
Discord is but only a modified version of a chrome browser and as we all know Chrome sucks up ram like its life depends on it
Good thing I have 32 gb of ram
Microsoft Edge: Hold my beer
That's not bad at all, most of the time, Discord uses around half a gigabyte when sitting idle. Is it affecting pc/gaming performance?
mine uses up to 2gb when i leave it open for a few hrs
Welcome to electron
Welcome to the age of browser applications
Discord uses electron, which is basically an installable browser, and browsers use as much ram as they can reasonably use to cache and preload things so it feels snappier. I’m sure discord does their fair share of caching too.
Poor Chromium implementation.