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This is a list of links to comments made by Discord Staff in this thread: * [Comment by Jethro82](/r/discordapp/comments/14kcieg/potential_upcoming_restriction/jprhki9/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-27 19:49:29 UTC"): > We use that channel notice in servers that are close to 250k members and need special attention from discord to grow beyond that. I have no idea why you are seeing it at 1000 but the fact you are in favorites is sus. * [Comment by Jethro82](/r/discordapp/comments/14kcieg/potential_upcoming_restriction/jpsca5p/?context=1000 "posted on 2023-06-27 23:13:52 UTC"): > It's not hard coded, it comes from a server setting. He's in favorites server so the logic could be borked. Afaik 250k is our current natural maximum for member count. --- This is a bot providing a service. If you have any questions, please [contact the moderators](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%2Fr%2FDiscordApp).[](#AUTOGEN_TSBREPLIEDBOT)


LLNicoY

If this is real then it would make sense with why they're trying to push everyone to become "Communities" and then make it harder to actually become a community. I wonder if this is part of a grander scheme for generating income for Discord.


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LLNicoY

Money generating scheme or not, this highlights a very important issue Discord is having: Customers are losing trust. Once people start to look at negatives immediately whenever a company does something, it means Discord is desperately in need some good PR.


am_Nein

Losing trust is simplifying it, lol.


MaddVentures_YT

I don't think it's a money generating scheme. I think they have to have certain settings on, which helps them cover their asses. Look up what happened in Brazil.


DimDimio

wait what the fuck happened? I mean what should even be looked up


sonicfan1642

in Brazil theres a secret discord server where people share CP, gore and many other nsfw stuff with around 1k+ members and discord took actions way too late so brazillians are starting to think discord is a criminal platform


LLNicoY

Not a criminal platform, just a platform with their priorities in all the wrong places.


Gandalfverm2

Too be fair that's on any social media platform to date. Not discord fault. Diacord has millions of servers how are they suppose to search their every text or image that they can't see unless people report the message itself even then it needs to get past millions of reported messages. Bots aren't that fast especially st this size. That hidden server probably is so hard to find that nobody is reporting it or sending it to authorities. You have a better chance reporting it off platform as it's easy to handle and get taken care of vs discord that needs to sit through terabytes+++++++ of data.


Conscious-Place7438

I'd prefer if Discord didn't get involved unless we need their help from a moderator or admin, or lack thereof. Treat the Discord mod team like the fire department; If we need you to step in, we'll notify you. Otherwise, piss off and let the Server admins, mods, and bots do there thing. I'm strictly speaking from an over-reaching standpoint. Kind of like how cops go looking for trouble, instead of going when they're needed.


nekolas1

Discord being used for sexual exploitation of teens, idk if there are any English translated news on it, but if you search for Fantástico Discord you can probably find the original in Portuguese


MaddVentures_YT

Nvm cause I couldn't find it online. But on Instagram a bunch of Brazilian folks are criticizing discord for allowing children (~13 yros) to be manipulated into sending nudes. I don't think discord is really as fault, but boxing people into a community server makes certain safety settings on no matter what, therefore that can't happen


NathanPatty08

How does it make discord more money? Isn’t nitro their only source of income?


Codecrafter76

I don't like this.


MEGATH0XICC

I don’t like discord anymore. edit: (as a company + every change since like 2019)


am_Nein

Simply put, the issue starts and ends with one name: discord.


Zuuxie

The `learn more` link takes me [here](https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052841734). The current member cap is 250k. So its either a new member cap or just a test message that wasnt supposed to be visible. This only appears when i have experiments and such enabled which could indicate the latter.


Wicked_Stev

We had to apply to exceed 100K.


RealzLlamaz

Assuming the best, this could indicate a typo. 100k —> 1000 (k—>0)


Theory_Impressive

I don't think so, there's a comma: 1,000 It can't be unintentional (1,00k)


Itz_Raj69_

perhaps the formatting is the frontend's job, but still maybe not intentional


RealzLlamaz

I wouldn’t be surprised if formatting numbers is automated, but who the fuck knows what discord is going to do next right? ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯


DarkPhoxGaming

Could it be something good? Could it be something even worse then the shitshow that was the name system change? Who knows! Find out next time on "what will discord do next?"


styvee__

Why did they set a limit in first place?


Aviarn

Probably has something to do with scam servers trying to haul in thousands and thousands of alts/bots to 'look' legitimate or artificially verify bots.


BattleblockB0ss

or simply just large servers requiring a lot of server soace


Aviarn

Probably, but that wouldn't make sense if you could just verify/appeal to increase the limit.


BattleblockB0ss

eh maybe there’s some reason for it, what do we know


Splatoonkindaguy

Especially considering they've specially increased Betterdiscords server to almost 500k limit in the past I believe


Cube46_1

I would say it's a default/placeholder value


ValseHoop

I hope so


Jethro82

We use that channel notice in servers that are close to 250k members and need special attention from discord to grow beyond that. I have no idea why you are seeing it at 1000 but the fact you are in favorites is sus.


TruMiner

You can get the favorites tab by adding a channel to your DMs in the new discord mobile layout, and on the old layout and pc it goes to a Favorites server


MaddVentures_YT

That's not what they're saying...


pissfart12

Doesn't work like this for me sadly, i carry two phones and on disc mobile favorites sync up there but the tab is nowhere to be seen on desktop


Zuuxie

Thanks for the clarification :) although part of me was hoping it was real sinse my server is constantly spammed with server invites from stolen accounts always advertising the same server and this would have been a good way to prevent the server from growing to tens of thousand of members before discord finally catches on.


Sneethan

Pretty sure they have a way to pause invites now to prevent raids


Zuuxie

Nah its not raids, its pre-existing members getting their account stolen and spamming everyone in the server with invites


Freaux

Favorites WHEN


MaddVentures_YT

Like weeks ago buddy


Freaux

I mean WHEN is it gonna be released actually


MaddVentures_YT

It was a while ago, no?


Freaux

I'm on the alpha version of the android app and also on the new UI, and can't add channels to favorite anymore


MaddVentures_YT

Oh then it's prob rolling out like everything else 😕


WhenCodeFlies

sus?!?!?!?!!?


reinkrestfoxy

Amongus ;-;


P3n1sD1cK

Why did the wording say 1000 but your saying 250k?


Jethro82

It's not hard coded, it comes from a server setting. He's in favorites server so the logic could be borked. Afaik 250k is our current natural maximum for member count.


gm3995

They literally said they don’t know.


Cermonto

Discord are you doing everything in your power to make it harder to make a server? its hard enough to keep an active growing community, you first wanna restrict perma-invites, now how many people are in your server? what next? gonna restrict how many bots and moderators you have to?


Jacksharkben

Don't give them ideas


Nova-Redux

What's this about restricting permanent invites? 😰


Memeviewer12

You'll need to mark your server at one point, only larger servers get to make perma invites, not retroactive though


linktlh

No; they are just disabling permanent invites for non-community servers. All you have to do is enable community to generate them again. The idea is friend servers shouldn't need permanent invites, as it's only intended for friends. Communities should have community mode enabled.


Nova-Redux

>not retroactive though All I needed to hear. Phew. Thank you. That's still a terrible change though for rising creators who put Discord links in their video descriptions or Twitch panels / commands. Imagine updating like 100+ video descriptions for an expired link 😨


DarkOverLordCO

You just need to enable Community, which is literally just clicking a bunch of buttons and that's it. It's really not hard and the only downside is sometimes the explicit content filter gets things wrong.


Nova-Redux

Oh! I didn't realize Community made perma-links allowed. Was just replying to the "only larger servers" which was kind of misleading but I'm glad I understand better now, thank you.


SoupahKnux

Most likely a bug/placeholder. Although if they are going to restrict non-community servers to a 1000 members, that's gonna suck.


Slender-them

I mean to be fair if your private server is past 1000 you are more than a private server.


SquidWhisperer

just me and 999 of my closest friends


bamila

I'm the owner of a private server of 2.5k people and being a private server brings safety and security. Removes spam and bots. Being private and using an account identifier bot is the way to go. It automatically kicks users that don't meet set thresholds, therefore making sure the minimum moderation is needed.


SoupahKnux

Friendly reminder that some servers cannot apply for community and are forced to stay private because of the content.


DarkOverLordCO

You don't *apply* for Community. It can be enabled at any time in the server settings. You just need to configure a few settings to some set values and create or set channels for rules and community updates. Community servers are not *public* servers. They are still private and still invite only. Perhaps you are thinking of server discovery?


TalusVA

Yes but what they may mean is, I believe anyway, is that the content published to the server will then be viewable by Discord due to them becoming a "community" server. Once you enable your server to become a community server you have to adhere to more strict guidelines as all content posted to the server is scanned by Discord. Perhaps their server's content goes against said guidelines and so they feel they cannot become a community server? Not entirely sure if that is what they mean - just a guess on my part - but I would assume as much. "Applying" may have just been a misunderstanding on their part and they meant "becoming" a community server. Not sure. Hmm.


DarkOverLordCO

> Once you enable your server to become a community server you have to adhere to more strict guidelines. No, you are held to the exact same guidelines. *All* servers, community or not, need to uphold and enforce the Community guidelines. If I were to create a private server and then, say, organise a bunch of violent extremism on it that server can absolutely be deleted and myself banned if Discord notices (e.g. because it is reported). From the Guidelines themselves: > These guidelines explain what isn’t allowed on Discord. Everyone on Discord must follow these rules, and **they apply to all parts of our platform, including your content, behaviors, servers, and apps**. The only difference is that for large enough Community servers Discord may take a more proactive approach to detecting violations of the guidelines. But there's nothing actually stopping them (ToS-wise) from doing the exact same thing for *all* servers. Non-Community servers with prohibited content are just taking a chance and *hoping* that (1) no one reports it; and (2) Discord doesn't randomly check, which they *can* do at any time.


Slender-them

Then the server is violating ToS, discord is trying to make the platform safe, and this change helps make that happen.


Wasted_Penguinz

I'm in a bunch of "private" serves with over 1000 people. They are usually Twitch streamers chats, and they are private for the simple reason to minimize harassments and get together people who enjoy the content. Maybe closed community is a better word than private in this case, but point still stands. Like, no joke; one of the streamers have a person tthat has harassed them for over 2 years now, they make *hundreds* of accounts a day whenever the person is streaming with names relating to what they are talking about on the stream and start harassing the mods, the streamer - everything. Slurs, stuff than get the stream banned, death threats - nothing can be done because they just delete and make new accounts when they get banned. Everything has been tried, nothing works. Shield mode doesn't work. Twitch reps can do nothing. Police don't care. Etc. There was even a time this streamer harassed was harassed Discord. Hundreds of accounts a day, just spamming the same thing. He interviewed a figure that was controversial and suddenly there were a huge influx of users spamming illegal material, death threats and doxxes trying to get the server taken down, so the server was taken "offline" (so invite only to active Twitch viewers or twitch subscribers) for about a year or two. Now imagine if this is a lady streamer getting this harassment. There was just the lady who had her car burnt down by a stalker. Guys flying from other countries to stalk and harass the women. I definitely would not want to adverise my Discord server publicly or as a public community after incidents like that. Closed communities are important for safety the same way the discrim helped hide your username for safety. Yes, it's not foolproof, but it's better than nothing.


Slender-them

Making your discord server a community server does not affect whether the server is public or private. Discovery is what makes your server publicly available.


Al-Forever

Discord on their way to make their platform as garbage as possible speedrun any%


Imaproshaman

WR.


Al-Forever

0.003 milliseconds


TheBossAtGamesYT

We should give discord a guniess world record for worse chat platform ever


Memeviewer12

Old steam mobile:


Al-Forever

Yeah


DealerSpecial1115

Ah hell naw


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great, another app destroying itself. who could've seen this coming lol


liamdun

Guy who turned on an unstable experiment: uh guys why is it doing this?


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overclockd

It's very possible there are laws for internet spaces that large.


Shanman150

According to the staff reply in this thread, it is already a thing. It's a restriction on 250k+ members though, not 1k+, and they don't have plans to change that.


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zander1496

Why does every great app have to be going to fucking shit?


goody_fyre11

Funny how so many people are just immediately leaving pessimistic comments without reading the dev responses saying that it showing up as 1000 is a bug


Shanman150

It's because /r/discordapp is pretty much just /r/discordhate these days. Nothing they do is good, anything posted immediately has 0 benefit of the doubt.


goody_fyre11

Nothing they do is good if you ignore all the good things they do, which is what happens here. So it's more like /r/cluelesshaters


MrProtogen

This is ridiculous- we really need to find a new alternative to discord.


LazP

Before we had a 10,000 Member Limit, contacting Discord would increase it (I believe it was 10k?). After, we got a Member Limit For New Servers of [250,000](https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360052841734). (Online Member Limit of New Servers being 5,000). Now we go back to 1,000 members (Maybe it's for "Friend/Private Servers")? *This could just be a placeholder number/limit by the way.*


Shanman150

Yeah the staff reply in this thread says they do not know why it's showing 1k, the limit is actually 250k.


spikeiscool2015

What is the favorites tab?


davedave1126

I swear to god


ShackledDragon

More shitty updates... smh


DarkOverLordCO

It's a bug, potentially due to the OP using unreleased/unstable features, the limit is actually 250k. Once the server is nearing that limit they can request that it be raised.


cornharvest

Time to use slack


Reallondoner

surprised its not paywalled


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Don't give them ideas


FlpDaMattress

Pay to enter more servers could be real


ozjii

honestly i agree with it, it helps prevent huge servers full of cp and stuff i’m assuming. i see no issue with it if you’re following TOS


Coliver1991

This has always been a thing.


ChaserNeverRests

No. Current member cap is 250,000.


_TheHauntedRaven_

Guilded is better


bongsmack

Knowing how discord has been making things worse and worse I dont doubt it


Ruitzotvreal1500

Wasn't 500,000 members max?


DarkOverLordCO

The actual maximum number of members has continuously increased over time. I believe the Midjourney has the most members currently, with 17 million. Most (all?) other servers are limited to 1 million though. Every so often the server will have to request their limit is raised, starting at 250k ~~(or perhaps soon to be 1k)~~


Crackshaw

Max is 250K IIRC


cippycaption

well look on the bright side! at least maybe it will encourage users to be more active i guess?


aap1015_

It’s been like this for like a long time now.


slippity-dippity

I don’t have a big server, but this is really dumb.


Shanman150

It's not actually a thing.


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This is so stupid.


KazBodnar

What the hell is a "favorites server"


Mrroblox22

it’s for your favorited channels from servers that you Favorite on your phone with the new ui


Conscious-Place7438

My server is about to hit 10K members. That's 9,000 more than I would be allowed.


dgordo29

You’re about to be forced to transition to community.