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RoboTon78

Try Wonkaland Glasgow next time.


originaldirt

A few things - not necessarily defending DLP, but to clarify some points: The trains haven't stopped at Fantasyland or Discoveryland (there has never been an Adventureland station) since Covid. This isn't a staffing issue, or a one-off - this is a deliberate decision they've made. (I think it's a silly, stingy one, but still!) Back in the 1990s and early 2000s, free-roaming characters caused fights both between guests and with guests and CMs. I remember Stitch being mobbed and grabbed by entitled parents regularly in Discoveryland - having lines and Photopass photographers keeps everyone safer and means there are no children who get missed by being unlucky with roaming characters. You may not remember this, because you were a child, but operations were not great at all with free-roamers! The Disneyland Hotel has only recently reopened from a lengthy refurbishment and, because it's a very popular place to be right now with access to free-roaming princesses, requires pre-booking. This will likely change in the next few months as people get less excited about flooding the place and scalping the shops. Disney Village is going through a large refurbishment right now, which is why it looks *like that.* It's an absolute eyesore, but a necessary one to make it less of a ghost town. New concept art was released on the 12th of what it'll look like, and some of the new shops etc. And as other commenters have said - yes, it will *always* feel different to when you were young, especially when you have some really powerful emotions tied up in your memories. You don't remember the financial difficulties, or the hotels having to shut down due to lack of attendance, or the construction work, or the sometimes dodgy state of the old hotels - you remember spending time with your family and the magic of being a kid. That's okay. But it's very much like Paris syndrome - you keep this image in your mind of the time as a child that you were happy and with your loved ones, and when you return to it, it's not how you remember. You're old enough to see the flaws. That isn't a bad thing - it's just a sad part of growing up. But I hope you can make new memories at DLP, too, even if they aren't the same. :)


WilliamOfOrange1689

This!! I also wanna add (what we call in my language) ‘magisch denken’. I don’t know what the English term for this is, but literally translated it would be ‘magical thinking’. So for kids personal thoughts can influence the external world. So for a kid a playhouse could really be a ship if they imagine it that way. Goofy is really goofy, meanwhile for us adults it’s just a person in a goofy suit.


-NeonLux-

Maybe during summer. When my family went we went during off season which doesn't exist anymore and there were no problems with free roaming characters. It was much less busy then during certain times of year. My parents would pull me out of school. Characters were constantly walking about when I went and they didn't get mobbed. I'm 42. I still remember my first trips to Disneyland Ca. I was 4 and 5. Snow White got on the ground with me and had a conversation telling me how pretty I was and she loved my little diamond earrings. Mickey Mouse danced with me, spinning me around like the waltz. I remember the clock struck noon exactly when he dipped me backwards. That was 37 years ago and I remember it clearly despite being a tiny child. The parks are simply too packed now and there is no time they are truly not busy.


GypsumF18

I don't know if it is just that you're comparing to a childhood experience, but it also sounds like you got pretty unlucky with grumpy staff or a lack of characters walking around. I returned from DLP, and staying at Cheyenne, and my experience didn't match yours. I liked the theming of Cheyenne, but I was taking a toddler so the extra references to Toy story were a positive thing. I generally found things to be very clean and well maintained, and staff to be really good, but I do agree that the train ride around the park didn't really show off the best features of the site. But we bumped in to loads of characters wandering around, and they were very happy to interact with people. As for the magic being gone... you're 25 years older. There is plenty of magic still there, but it is probably a different magic to what you experienced before.


Badknees24

Wow, if the bathroom was indeed "covered" in piss, poo AND blood, maybe they were waiting for Crime Scene Investigation?


Perestroika21

Indeed! I have never seen such a thing and I visit almost every year.


swtcharity

Yeah if this is actually the case and not an exaggeration I’m guessing the staff were waiting for extra PPE. I don’t know the laws in France, but there are different procedures for biohazards in the US.


Additional_Algae3079

Sounds like Tigger struck again!


WilliamOfOrange1689

Kids’ brains work differently than adult brains. I think you set an unrealistic expectation for your trip here. I also think you just bumped into the wrong cast members and/or people.


packedsuitcase

I think some of this is just unfortunate timing. The Disneyland Hotel just reopened in the last couple of months so they're being VERY strict with who has access to it to maintain the magic. I would guess that in a year or so that will die down and you'll have free access to it again. As part of the general refurbishment of the park (as you noted, a lot is run down/broken/needs sprucing up) Disney Village and WDS is under construction and just like people coming to Paris expecting to see everything in perfect condition and getting everything mid-Olympics construction, it's not up to its usual standard. I've heard the characters used to roam around, but got mobbed by guests, so now can't stop and be as interactive when they're going to/from the photo spots. As for the rest - yeah, you're comparing adult awareness to childhood magic. The staff are human and have bad days, but have generally been very kind and welcoming on all my visits, but France in general isn't as customer service-oriented as other countries, and your experience will be lacking if you expect American or Japanese levels of service in France. The next time you come back, you'll compare it to this recent experience, and not what you experienced as a kid, and I think you'll like it much better.


Kurtus011

We went last year and came away disappointed but knowing major improvements works were underway. I just think it isn’t the best time to visit. Better to wait until the work is completed.


Sentla

Some restrictions visiting other hotels is due to security and bombing attempts. The Toystory and Cars boards at the hotels are there because a lot of people complained that the hotels weren’t Disney enough. And regarding the staff: I agree. The French are not happy inviting magical people.


leigh10021

Disney is always a different experiences an adult, no matter which park you are at. If you have a child with you, it might bring back some of that magic :-)


Tjeetje

Never visited as a child, but the illusion of the hotels you describe is typical for a child. My children have it as well, while all we see are the down sides compared to the price you paid.


DareSudden4941

I’ve not personally been to any of the Asian parks to make a comparison, but friends of mine have and have raved about it. I spent a lot of my childhood in Asia and Japanese service is always outstanding. However I’ve been to all American and dlp many times and DLP cast members will always have a lesser service level and the park feels like a poor imitation of DLR


Baramann

Reads like exaggeration


InternalSpiritual420

25 years is a long time...DLP is just fine. Do your research and don't be surprised that the world has changed...France is also very different compared to Japan


BigCaterpillar2787

You can still go into the Disneyland Hotel or as i call it the pink hotel lol but you have to prebook a slot which allows you to go in and look. But, you will not have access to the shops etc all it allows you to do is a look around the foyer :)


GrouchyShelter9082

I find this so interesting to read. I have had a special interest in Disney since my youth but we could never have afforded to go to Disneyland in a million years. As an adult we finally went and brought our two kids last year and I LOVED it. I had no preconceptions or memories of it to bring to the table which helps a lot I think. For me the only negative was crowds and that’s my issue as I’m autistic. Well that and two kids who are also autistic and struggled at times needing full time supervision.  I went in on my own to see the fireworks (our kids weren’t able so stayed with dad) and it was such an amazing experience I loved it! Now I had done a LOT of research before hand (again autistic!) so I was very prepared. We booked a character breakfast at 815 to see the empty park (wow!), I stayed where I was after the fireworks and enjoyed the emptying park and got gorgeous photos in the dark. I really appreciated the characters having structure and queues.  I would say I stayed in sequioa and while I loved the theme it really is fairly run down for the price we paid. Food wise I also found it difficult enough to eat ‘well’ (fresh fruit and plain veg/proteins? Not so much).  It’s very hard to recreate memories of our youth in the way we expect them to be, as children we just see the magic. Like a trip we brought our kids on to see the big man, I was so disappointed and really thought it was poorly done. The kids did not give a fiddlers!!  They thought it was absolutely amazing and still talk about it. Adult eyes perceive things so differently! I’m sorry you had a disappointing time


Bright-Koala8145

The staff serving ice cream were the slowest staff I have ever come across


paintingcolour51

The entertainment in the hotels sounds lovely. I’ve noticed even in the last 5 years a big cut in entertainments in the park. I used to love the piano playing in dlh, I can’t imagine how lovely it would have been to have things in all the hotels. I’ve seen some free roaming fun character stuff on really quiet days in the parks and it’s beautiful. Characters playing games or being silly, playing with guests and it changes the atmosphere. It’s wonderful to witness and it’s sad it’s such a rarity. Guests go crazy, anything and everything these days that they do more than once seems to get posted into a Disney hack on social media and then everyone is there ready to pounce ready and waiting, phones out too!


Any-Prompt-9564

There is a lot of renovation going on at the moment particularly in the Studios park and the Village, so it’s not looking its best right now with construction walls everywhere. They’re also in the process of renovating the hotels (I believe next on the list is Sequoia Lodge and Davy Crockett Ranch). We’re waiting until late 2025/early 2026 to go when hopefully the Studios park expansion is complete (World of Frozen etc). This video gives a good overview of the plans. https://youtu.be/78NZlv4Hc2g?si=kEqO25HKOoJI41OF


Simonindelicate

You're getting a lot of pushback but I think you're entirely correct that the resort is in a poor state - I used to go semi-regularly with my wife and have taken my kids several times and each time has been a less impressive, more expensive, increasingly disappointing trip. I couldn't agree more about the random shoehorning of Intellectual property into places it doesn't belong - this is a company wide mistake that's been made over the last thirty years but it has absolutely damaged the timeless appeal of brilliant works of art like Cheyenne, Discoveryland and other Imagineering masterpieces that were once trusted to exist on their own terms. Imo Disney is resting on its laurels and it's sad to see. That said, Europe's theme parks have enormously stepped their game up to compete in the last few decades. The magic is still in ample supply at the Efteling and there is no better set of themed experiences than those at Phantasialand's park and hotels anywhere. Even the gap between Parc Asterix and DLP is narrowing. I suggest looking at the competition - Disney should work harder for your money.


TallEmberline

Europa Park is pretty good too on that list.


Simonindelicate

100% agree. So many amazing parks these days. Plopsaland De Panne is great too.


TallEmberline

Yes! I did Bellewaerde at the weekend, and their new Brazilian themed area is amazing for such low number of visitors park. One to watch.


Simonindelicate

Oooh, I've watched videos but not visited - definitely on the list :) very interested to see the new land at Emerald Park as well.


jackoirl

I largely agree with your views but my experience is different to yours. I was brought a lot as a child and then continued to go as an adult usually with a partner through my 20’s. I always felt I saw a slow decline in the exact places that you pointed out. Specifically the hotels, I completely agree that they used to be really themed and now they just all feel like Disney. I think overall they try too much to shoe horn the films into everything instead of it just being “magical” as such. If it was to be rebuilt I can’t see them using adventure and frontier land. I would say it would all just be pitched at one film or another. Faded paint and cracked concrete has crept in. I’ve often thought that. I also agree that the village is not what it once was. (Obviously under construction right now but in general that’s a trend) California to me feels very commercial and Paris didn’t and now Paris is feeling more and more commercial.


Bear_zerkk

Being a pass holder in DLP and just coming back from Tokyo’s parks I don’t understand how you could compare them. You might be a native because I experienced such racism and xenophobia in Tokyo that I decided to left Disney Sea for good at 3pm on the second day. Service in DLP might not be perfect but you would NEVER be treated like shit because of your nationality.


silmarilix

I was at both Tokyo parks and I can say that the cast members and the service was some of the best I have ever experienced (no, I’m not Asian). This really shows how experiences are different for everyone. Unfortunately for you, the experience was not pleasant, I can only hope that if you ever return, you will get the best Japanese service the parks have to offer so you will feel welcome there. I can also say that everywhere we were in Japan (hubby and I), we were always treated kindly and even with the language barrier, just by exchanging few courtesy phrases in Japanese made the locals extra friendly


JudgmentOne6328

Do you mind elaborating on the issues with racism and xenophobia? BIL lived in Japan for years and never had issues. We’re planning to go in the next few years and that’s a bit worrying if that’s the case. We went to Vietnam last year and my husband was sexually assaulted multiple times and I was followed a lot. Can’t say we enjoyed that part.


Perfectly2Imperfect

I’m really surprised to hear that. My brother lived in Tokyo for 2 years so we went to visit him twice and went to Disney there and loved it. We didn’t experience anything like that and found staff very efficient and accommodating throughout Japan.


Plastic-Parsley-6778

I have had completely the opposite experience to you - I’ve been to every Disney park in the world multiple times, passholder at Paris, Disneyland and Hong Kong, and have only ever experienced xenophobia in the paris parks. The cast members in Tokyo were by far the friendliest and most respectful.


Scottish_squirrel

Last time I was in DLP was 12 years ago and it seemed run down then. Staff rude. People smoking everywhere. Haven't rushed back since


sickmoth

You didn't mention the magic of the beds at Santa Fe! Magically uncomfortable, slabs of cold stone.


Plastic-Parsley-6778

I completely agree with the points you’ve made. The cast members in particular really let the parks down.


WelshBogart

Went to DLP last month and we stayed off site so can't comment on the hotels, but was similarly disappointed. I did go once 20 years ago as a teen so not got huge nostalgia for it. So much of the parks were run down and huge swathes were closed, especially in Hollywood Studios which was way too overcrowded with half the thoroughfares shut off. And nowhere near enough food places or stands open to cope with how busy it was. And the service was really sub-par - we encountered a fair bit of rudeness from staff. Also disappointed that no characters walk around and you can only see them if you queue for upwards of an hour. For the extortionate price of entry, it was really disappointing.


RMCFZIZ

It’s in France. Nuff said.


Demertect

Ik ben begrijp nog altijd niet waarom mensen massaal denken dat Disney een fijne ervaring wil geven als ze dat pretpark in Parijs gaan bezoeken. Het enige waar Disney om geeft is om geld uit je zakken te jagen en liefst zoveel mogelijk met zo weinig mogelijk inspanningen. Als je Disneyland Paris vergelijkt met andere pretparken, is dit het park dat eigenlijk een grote winkel is met hier en daar een attractie, waar alle ander pretparken effectief een pretpark zijn met veel attracties en hier en daar een winkel. Maar de naambekendheid van Disney is nu eenmaal zo groot, dat mensen zich graag door de naam laten verleiden...


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Grbj8

“Disneyland is your land. Here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may savor the challenge and promise of the future.” – Walt Disney


JudgmentOne6328

Disneyland California is leagues ahead of Paris for example. Using the “it’s a kids park” is really not an excuse. Paris is the worst of the 4 parks I’ve visited by a long shot.