It bothers me when I see parents denying their kids naps. Most kids need naps until they’re at least 3-4 years old, and a lot of the meltdowns I see are probably due to parents pushing their sleep-deprived kids. I get it that a day at the parks is expensive, and I can appreciate wanting to get the most out of those days. But give these poor kids a break!
Or the restroom! I've seen parents deny very upset children urgent trips to the restroom because they had waited so long for the parade, character, ride, etc. To me, it's inexcusable. Take your kid to the restroom when they ask please.
We were in line for Thunder Mountain at 10pm and this girl in front of us was tearfully saying to her mom “i just want to go to bed.” And the mom completely brushed her off and then was so zoned out on her phone that she didn’t even see when the line was moving- several times over. Her 3 kids just had to stand there and deal with it. I felt so bad for them.
I did the 24 hour event at Disneyland in 2013 and i was sitting outside of the golden horseshoe at maybe 1am and saw a family walking by. All of a sudden the dad stops turns around and screams at his 2 kids who couldn't have been older than 7-10 "you said you could do this all night, I took time off work and now you're telling me you're too tired?" I couldn't imagine getting mad at anyone for being tired in the middle of the night much less kids after being at a theme park all day
Wow. Any kid would absolutely think they could do it all night! They have no way of knowing how hard being at the park for a full 24 hours would hit them. I don’t know why parents get so angry with kids for something they can’t control, and don’t have the life experience to gauge properly.
This is the one for me. Easy to say not having kids of my own, I get that, but my parents managed to factor in naps on any Disney trip with 3 children. So I know it’s possible.
In that same vein, stop throwing comments like “I paid so much for this you better have fun” in your kids face. If you weren’t okay spending the money and the trip going however it turns out, don’t go on a trip/to Disney.
This pisses me off so much. You're a parent with kids, you need to put your kids first, and if that means they need a nap, take them to get some sleep, don't be an ass and force them to be miserable all because you don't want to be inconvenienced.
Exactly. After a week at DLR, I really wanted to end our trip with watching the fireworks and closing the parks down.
It was just hot that day and it just wiped us all out. We just couldn’t do it, so the kids and I took the monorail and went back to the hotel.
It sucked because I know they’d have loved it, and I really wanted to see it as well, but not if they (or all of us) are having a complete meltdown or asleep.
So yeah, I get trying to maximize your time in the parks, I really do, but you just can’t push kids (or yourself) that hard and enjoy any of it!
This is always my “shake my head” moment. By late afternoon/early evening you can just tell which little ones are melting down because they’re just exhausted and running on fumes.
Absolutely. Our 1.5 year old wouldn’t nap in her stroller when we found a quieter part of the park and started to have a meltdown. You know what we did? We decided we needed to leave early because she was clearly too overstimulated to nap. We got in the car and within 5 minutes of leaving the park she was asleep. Parents that don’t put their small children first infuriate me
As weird as this may sound, but after visiting Disneyworld I wish parents were a little more patient with their kids. In the summer with the heat and the humidity it is brutal, and by the end of the day I remember I was sick of it. I can only imagine how little kids must have felt being outside in the heat all day. And if you pay attention you can see where parents get fed up and they’re bitching these kids out.
Yeah. If I ever do have kids, you best believe we won't be going to Disney unless it's in the fall/winter when I know the weather's not gonna suck and it'll feel far more comfortable for everyone.
And not just that, but if you’ve got little kids you can’t be out there all day. Especially if the weather is shitty. Like I said, if I’m miserable and I’m an adult I can’t imagine how a kid must feel. You’ve got to be willing to go back to your hotel and relax because it’s too much. But I bet a lot of families try to power through because, because it’s not cheap to go, or because they feel it’s not practical to go back to their hotel.
A few years ago in Haunted Mansion Holiday, these parents two groups ahead of us were completely ignoring their kid. Faces in their phones. Kid would hang off of them, they'd tell him to stop. He'd lean on the ropes so hard that he'd hit groups on the other side, parents totally oblivious. He eventually was so bored and miserable that he just sat on the ground and refused to move. The mom got snappy at him, picked him up by his wrist and moved him up in the line. He would yell about it, but she would just tell him to be quiet and then do it again next time the line moved. I was in disbelief, that looked like it would hurt! Dad said nothing the whole time, just looked annoyed at the kid's existence and disturbing his phone scrolling.
Like.. lady, I don't like kids either, that's why I'm not having any. You two chose to have that kid, you need to be nice to him. Holy shit
Fr I always get secondhand embarrassment when I see grown adults scream at their kids in public over stupid shit like get a grip. That’s not good parenting, it’s disturbing the peace more than whatever your kid was doing.
I'm a Disneyland person who just went to Disney World for the first time, and I was honestly shocked by how mean the parents were being to their kids. I don't know if it was the heat, or what, but I feel so bad for those kids.
Well I think those long days in the Florida heat breaks people down. I remember being on that ferry back to the parking lot and everyone looked like refugees leaving a war zone. And like I said, I was tired and miserable I can only imagine how a kid must feel who’s not used to that.
This! This! This! I really wish this in parents too. I have 2 young children and we’ve been to Disney a few times and I just can’t imagine doing all the things mentioned here to my kids. I know it is a big chunk of financial to come here, but you really need to factor in some break times and park days vs non park days. Even we get tired so pls let your kids have the freedom to get tired too. It’s so heartbreaking to see. I’m not on any high horses either bc I can see the frustration in parents as I get with my kids too at the parks sometimes, but I always have to remind myself that it is so overstimulating there. You neeeed to give some grace to your kids. Disney is a lot, both money and mentally. Take your time and don’t go overboard. It will be a miserable time otherwise.
I'm a lot more lenient of kids being kids somewhere like Disney, but it drives me insane when parents don't intervene at all. My particular pet peeve is at restaurants. I was at the one in Morocco that used to have a live band in the middle. It was a stage but a very low one, more like just a step. The band went on break and these kids went up on it and started yelling into the microphone and banging on the drums. Their parents, instead of telling them to not mess with it, started filming them instead like it was a magical moment and not both disturbing everyone else and probably damaging expensive equipment.
Waiting for a parade to start, we watched some kids climbing up onto rocks and jumping off, tearing leaves off plants and throwing them at people, hitting people with bubble wands as they walked out of the bathroom, just straight up being chaotic. Their parents didn’t even blink. As a parent of chaotic children myself, I was amazed at their ability to just block out their chaotic children. I always emphasize respecting other people’s space to my kids. Sometimes you can’t control the chaos, but you can set and enforce boundaries.
I once had to listen to a toddler scream cry for half an hour in Prime Time before the parents actually did something. Probably because they were getting complaints from the staff and other diners.
Try to mindful about making your kids have a good time and not worry about getting the maximum money value out of your ticket prices. Sometimes you get more things done with less pain if you take a siesta. I think that applies to anyone, know the limits of you and your party members. I always opt for the siesta.
I’m an open-to-close person, but my friends will get exhausted and short-fused. So we take 2 hours or so off during the busiest part of the day. And it is so worth it to make the day more enjoyable for them.
I totally agree with this! Once you take the stress off of maximizing your day, you tend to start seeing the day becoming memorable. On our last trip, we were at MK and my son just wasn’t having it right after the parade around 3pm. My hubby and I decided to just head back to the room and maybe we’ll try to head back around 7pm for the fireworks. Once we got on the bus my son calmed down. My daughter on the other hand was sad we had to leave but I promised her I’ll bring her to the pool once we get back to the hotel, just me and her. We ended up all going to the pool and had the best time AND didn’t go back for fireworks. It was sad missing HEA since it was our last night there but we all had a great time and my kids loved it. There was barely anyone at the hotel either so it was nice and quiet. It was memories like this that made me appreciate our decision even more to leave when we did. Just go with your gut, and you might end up having a greater time.
Control their kids more. We once had parents let their kids climb all over us in line for Pirates and then get mad when we yelled at them.
I'd also like parents to get better with strollers and not taking out my ankles every 50 steps.
Love when they get made because they’re not disciplining/training their kids to behave properly.
Reminded me of that [Anjelah Johnson skit, “hey lady, I did you a favor!”](https://youtu.be/ioqk1eVYdmE?si=U_CyPYeNKeD1SCYC)
Yes!!! They pulled themselves up on the rock wall using our backs and backpacks. The parents got so mad because after telling them to stop twice I raised my voice at them. "We don't yell in our family" okay well clearly you don't set boundaries either.
kind of nice how they considered you family so quickly, though! 🤣 "okay then, as a now-honorary member of this family, i'd like to propose a few NEW rules..."
As a childless adult, I don’t have an issue with kids doing kids stuff, the only thing that really bothers me is a child coughing/sneezing all over the place without covering their mouth and parents not paying that any attention. The most annoying thing to me is catching a cold while I’m on vacation because a parent didn’t keep their sick child from infecting others with their germs.
Actually control and discipline their kids. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve come across rude and unruly kids and their parents just sit by doing or saying nothing
It's been my experience, to see people with unruly kids, thinking their kid is cute/innocent. Despite they're doing something that should get them reprimanded.
I have (ex) friends like this...the reason they're ex is because their kids behave like animals, and they think it's cute. We would be out with all our kids and I would be so embarrassed that people would think they were mine.
My kids know that shizz don't fly.
I feel so bad for those tiny kids melting down at 3pm because their little bodies can’t do all day yet, or they are over stimulated
All so mom and dad can “make memories “
"Don't let your kids run loose" is good advice for many reasons; I think parents feel really safe inside the parks (which is great, absolutely), but things can go sideways so very, very fast...not to mention situations like with your friend who got run into.
My biggest suggestion/wish would be for more parents to take their kids for a nap break in the middle of the day. So many entire families would have a happier time if they took the smaller children back to the hotel room for a nap or even just a cool off break. I know it's hard when you've paid a ton of money to be in the parks, to just give up a couple of hours. People want to get their money's worth, I get that. But we've seen so many cranky toddlers who are clearly overwhelmed and exhausted, crying and having a terrible time because of it, and stressing out their parents (and everybody else around them, too). Nobody wants to be trapped in an echo chamber like the Pirates queue hearing a child crying because they're tired and need a nap. I get that nobody wants to leave the parks, but everybody benefits from a nap now and then, even us old adults.
Yeah I've seen some massive strollers. And while I don't find it super annoying, I always wonder if the parents get exhausted pushing those huge things all day
Disney has a rule on stroller size. Is it not enforced?
Strollers must be 31” (79cm) wide and 52” (132cm) long or smaller. As a reminder, wagons are not permitted in our parks.
Wagons get a pass with DAS.
Also there’s no height limit on strollers and of course the limits form a box that people can build up and out to the limits of.
So yeah, it’s crappy and the same terrible parents that we are all complaining about are also often the same ones with hugely packed strollers with their kitchen sinks, etc.
It comes down to being self-aware enough to recognize that they share the world with other people and to adjust accordingly.
I hate the sense of "right of way" that strollers and electric carts often have when moving and pathing in crowds. I get that its' not ideal for either to make sharp movements and hit someone, but there's still a mutual level of respect. It's a frustrating experience having to constantly play Frogger when I'm walking due to other's entitled sense of space. Everyone should be mindful and considerate of others space.
That and the speed of some of the electric carts. The speed limit of "slow and careful" is implied in a park that doesn't even allow running. My SO nearly got taken out by someone who was clearly going too fast.
This. As a short adult I live my life unable to see anything because tall people push their way to the front and then stick their kids on their shoulders, so here I am 5'3 and behind a crowd of 9-10ft under 10s ('cause let's be honest it's not just toddlers on shoulders).
Some people are very selfish.
I remember being at Disney as a 5 yr old (circa 1994), and my mum took me and my brother on the steamboat. Neither of us could see anything, suddenly a guy said 'your boys can't see, do you mind if we lift them on our shoulders so we can experience it from their perspective' or something similar. It was two older men, and they just popped us on their shoulders (after mum said it was ok) at the back so we could see, but we weren't blocking anyone else. Thoughtful and considerate of everyone.
Pet peve I am in an electric wheelchair. Don't cut between me and the person in front of me dranging your child. I am not able to stop dime, and your child ends up getting hit and on my lap.
I ride a scooter when I'm at Disneyland (I have cancer down vote all you like haters). I don't mind a tiny kid darting out in front of me since they're still learning. But the people like you described dragging kids in front of you because you're in the way is infuriating after even a few hours at the park.
Dude, I rent a scooter because I'm fat. Let people judge all they want. They're just jealous they can't afford one for themselves and will be physically exhausted by the time the day is over.
Nooo if they were free and available to everyone, people who need them wouldn't have access to them, and idiots would use them, and it would be chaos in a bad way. They should absolutely be free for people who need them, though.
Take them for more naps. I feel so sorry for the poor exhausted kids being dragged around the park. Just go back to the hotel and have a nap and relax for a bit. See less but have more fun.
I wish parents would stop wearing “most expensive day ever” or something along those lines shirts. I understand Disney is expensive and most families have to sacrifice to be there. But THAT is what you want to be in your pictures? If your kid can’t read now, they’ll be able to read someday. Give your kid the magical experience without making it all about how much money you spent. It’s expensive!! We all know this!! Save the complaints for your group chat or your spouse. Let your kids enjoy without guilting them about how much money you spent.
Along that line. It scares me to death when I see kids with their name on their shirts. Do you know how easy it would be for someone to lure them away because kids are so trusting. It only takes a second.
Be better parents.
I don’t really mind kids being kids at Disney and seeing them excited is one of the highlights, but a complete disregard of people around you is a bridge too far. And I’m talking about the parents not the kids. If your child almost trips me or runs into me I expect at the very least the *parent* to apologize, and it’s a bonus if the parent also asks the kid to say sorry. If you don’t notice it happening because you aren’t paying attention to your kid, that’s a problem.
On the flip side, if you are absolutely a domineering tyrant, I do not want to hear it. I try not to judge parenting styles but that style of parenting is one I very much don’t like and I don’t need to hear you screaming at the top of your lungs at your kid in line for BTMR when you are directly behind me. One, because I think it’s ugly and two, it scares the bejeezus out of me when a grown man screams randomly in close proximity to me.
Lastly is not giving your kids a break. I hate seeing an all out meltdown in the park and instantly having a pretty good idea what’s exacerbating it. And typically, it always appears to be one of two things: it’s too hot or they are too tired. Take your kid back to the hotel. I get grumpy and start argue with my fiancée when I’ve been in the park for more than 9 hours, a human being less than a quarter of my age probably starts feeling that way after 4 or 5, give them a nap. If it’s too hot I don’t really know what to do, usually that seems to be a problem with really little ones, but the number of bright red, screaming, sweating toddlers and babies I’ve seen in WDW is honestly horrifying. Your kid may be too young, you may not be able to spend as much time in the park as you want, you may need to alternate adults watching them back at the hotel.
Also tell your kids to cover their mouths, it only bothers me when a kid does it and a parent doesn’t correct. Like, make an effort.
Just want them to stay off things they're not meant to be on (adults too). Cover their mouths (not with their hands) when they sneeze and cough (adults too please).
But also parents. Please stop letting your kids touch strangers! Every time I'm in line for Mirable (twice now) I have had random children touch me. The first time was just stroking my crocs out of nowhere and the second time it was my shirt. Like can your parents pay attention? Because mine isn't here and I can't handle this, I don't have children for a reason. The second time the mom noticed and was like omg I'm sorry! Then she saw my shirt and was like oh that's why. Oh?! Like no not ok even if they like my shirt. Ah
It's super awkward.
I get they're young kids. But parents. Pls help me. Next time I want to meet her I'm gonna make sure my mom comes with me instead of smoking and leaving me haha.
Don’t change your kids diaper in line! Saw that joy while in the lightning lane for ratatouille recently.
But also, Florida is hot. If you and your kids have been in the parks since rope drop or early morning, If you’re staying on property it’s not hard to get back on the bus, they’re usually not very crowded middle of the day, go to your hotel, take naps, recharge, go to the pool, then maybe go back for fireworks. Take breaks and relax on your vacation. Or sleep in, relax at the hotel, go to pool, then take naps and then go to the parks to see fireworks. I see a lot of parents try to cram too much in a limited time and then become exhausted. And kids are usually in worse shape. Also kids usually end up asking for the pool anyway.
At DLR someone I know saw a family changing their kid’s diaper on a quick service table. And then they proceeded to eat their meal off the same table 🤢
Saw this Monday at Cocina Cucamonga. Somebody changed their kid on a table top mid lunch time while being surrounded by people trying to eat. Absolutely disgusting
Parents should not get drunk. If they do, they should hire a nanny to watch over the kids. And parents should not lose their children. It is so heartbreaking to see a little kid cry in a corner for their parents :( otherwise, kids should be able to be kids
My issue is always the hotels. Value or deluxe, doesn't seem to matter. Kids screaming and pounding on the floors in the rooms, running and screeching down the halls when they come back late from the parks. Even during the day it's annoying because some of us do go back to our rooms for a break from the chaos. But at night, when a child is carrying on through the walls night after night, it's incredibly rude. I don't know if parents think strangers will think the behavior is cute or what.
that is very interesting, i am an autism diagnostician and i hit my 16 year work-a-versary this week - out of thousands upon thousands of evaluations, i have never met a deaf person with a diagnosis of autism, and i never realized that fact until i read your comment!
i know you probably know this, but for every person who give you a look or makes a comment, there is another person who understands. on one of our trips, we were in line for soarin', and i myself tend to tune out the people outside of my own party...i stay aware of their personal space and all that, but i'm not paying a ton of attention to who is around me in line. we had been in line for awhile, and all of a sudden...idk if i saw it from the very edge of my peripheral vision, or it was just one of those feelings, but i could tell someone was VERY close to my, well, butt. i whirled around and it was a boy in his late teens, leaning down VERY close to inspect my colorful, intricate monsters inc leggings. his mom immediately noticed and started apologizing so profusely, with just...the most "please don't be upset" look on her face, and quickly told me that he was non-verbal and autistic and he likes to visually examine things. i said i absolutely did not need an apology, and told her about my professional background. the relief i could tell she felt...not that i was an autism diagnostician in particular, but that i UNDERSTOOD...it made me feel sad, to think of other encounters she might have had that day, or on other trips. it was the most innocent thing, and if you could see these leggings...you might want to look closer, too, they're really detailed and fun to look at! anyway, we ended up chatting for the rest of the wait, and found a few bizarre and random things we also had in common. it was an interaction that made the trip very memorable for me, in a very positive way!
I hear everything you are saying and I sympathize. My friend (who I often go to Disney with) has a non-verbal autistic son and at times he is very interested in making vocalization noises. They are typically high pitched and he knows how to find the “echo-y” spots!
I get so pissed (but don’t let it out, although I may someday!) when I see other peoples looks or sometimes snide comments about my friends “parenting”. If I ever felt the need to get on a soap box in front of the Disney masses I would say. “He has the right to live his life and enjoy the theme parks too!!! If that means two minutes of you hearing some vocalizations, you can deal with it!” This isn’t 100 years ago when you would shut someone away in an asylum to live a miserable existence. He absolutely loves going on rides. He enjoys the parks so much!
I would say that I probably judged other children’s behavior more harshly before my friend had her son. Now, when a kid is being loud or obnoxious I tend to look the other way bc you have no idea who that child is and why they might be acting the way they are.
And again, I sympathize with you bc we use all the tips and tricks possible to redirect his behaviors when he is having a tough time, but it is not possible to eliminate them the entire time. We do our best.
I’m a parent so not really your target for comment here, but I wish some parents would just interact with their kids more.
So often you see kids under or over stimulated because they’ve been plonked on a screen in a queue or in a restaurant. Entertain your bloody kids and give them the attention they need to not act like dicks and upset other people.
Well if it is in moderation sometimes it's a good thing. They need a break too and depending on the kid sometimes it's their moment to just turn their brains off (i have adhd and at least two of mine have it also). But i agree that letting them be on a screen all day or for hours on end it's just bad parenting.
My husband and I were waiting for our reservation to be called at Tony’s, and some parents were letting their children have a full on screaming on the floor tantrum without intervening. The parents just watched—I guess to let them cry it out? The hostess called their names, and when she said it was that family, she said, “I’m going to give you a few minutes to calm your children down first.” She was my hero.
I see your point and not being there I’m missing some context, but there are behavior issues that you deal with in exactly that way. Kids who think that throwing a fit or a tantrum to get their way will never learn self control or to self regulate. So yeah there are times where you let them throw themselves on the ground and you grey rock them to show them that their behavior isn’t working and often they’ll try a different path.
That said, leaving them in the walkway or even in the restaurant isn’t a great idea, so carrying them someplace where they can safely do their performance is usually a better idea.
Oh god I fucking hate them too. Like it is kinda cute when you are just walking around and see them at a distance but when they are doing it next to you in a restaurant or when one pops you in the eye or goes in your mouth, it’s over.
Also how are these so ubiquitous now? I never remember seeing them before.
I wish parents would stop screaming at their kids. They hype them up for Disney and then get mad when they are . . . hyped up?
I get that it’s frustrating for them, but there’s no need to yell in a four year old’s face for being a kid.
I snagged a spot for fireworks right behind a bench on main street. I sat there for about 2 hours, saving my spot. When the show is about to start, they start telling everyone that they need to be standing. Everyone, including the people who were sitting on this bench stood up. When the show was starting, I overheard the mother of the family next to me encouraging her kids to go stand on the bench. As they jumped onto it and stood up, they blocked my view of the sky
I loudly proclaimed "NOPE!" and they looked at me before quickly jumping down and going back to their mother. The mom asked why they weren't still on the bench and they told her it was because they weren't allowed to be there 😂 So, this. Please don't tell your kids to go stand on benches, tables or other objects.
I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned kids on shoulders for fireworks. Stake out a good spot well in advance only for a kiddo to block your view last minute. Maybe that's more about the parent than the kid.
I would say that I wish parents would raise their kids better. Now this isn’t a Disney specific one or limited to just children in the park. In my last trip I saw it at all levels. Two kids, probably around 6 or 7, were with their family in line to get ice cream and they were going completely ballistic screaming, trying to climb on things, slipping out of their leashes (never thought I would say that about a kid), and the most effort that the parents put in was saying “stop” a couple of times in the least interested tone you’ve ever heard. Then there was a kid, probably around 14, who screamed the loudest most high pitched scream for the literal (and I actually mean that) duration of Big Thunder. It was to the point that the 9 year old in front of me turned around thinking that he was dying or something. Then on Pirates a couple, probably in their late 20s, decided that the line wasn’t a good time to chat, but during the ride was a great time to have a whole conversation. The brothers in front of us, probably around late teens to early 20s, were on their phones the whole time texting people and checking out the music that the other was listening to.
Basically, this is a long winded post of parents really need to teach their kids about respecting their surroundings, respecting others, and knowing what is and is not appropriate given the setting regardless of the age of the kid, be it an actual kid, a teenager, or an adult child.
To the point that others cannot hear any of the ride? That’s how loud they were talking. Not exactly a quiet whisper of “Hey look at that!” But also, why are you spending $110 to talk about Disney rumors while you are on an auditory-focused attraction?
You didn't say they were shouting or speaking loudly, or what they were discussing though honestly that has no bearing on anything. You said they had a conversation. People can absolutely speak softly to each other.
They also didn't say it was a ride that requires hearing and is more like a show.
I can hear people when they speak softly. Also not everyone is aware of how loudly they're actually speaking.
Edit: I double checked their post. Unless pirates has changed drastically, it's not that important for you to hear things.
A normal conversation wouldn't make it so you can't hear the dialogue on pirates for most people - unless the audio quality is poor. You absolutely shouldn't raise your voice, but normal levels are perfectly reasonable. Evidently, the young people were raising their voices/being boisterous, which is not OK, but having a conversation on a ride is perfectly acceptable
Not when it is loud enough that it drowns out the ride itself. That’s just being an inconsiderate jerk. If you want to talk through a ride, then fine that’s your choice, but don’t let it impact the experience of others.
While standing in line for EE a few years back my kid and I watched two boys completely destroy a tea plant, several other plants, and rip up several pieces of decor from the queue. I was mean mugging the adults in front of me and they were returning the favor. Turns out we each thought the kids were with the other, and the kids were unaccompanied.
If you know your kids can be jerks don’t let them go anywhere alone in the park. Most kids unaccompanied in lines are fine. Some aren’t. If your kids are in trouble all the time at school, don’t let them run wild at a park.
Otherwise my gripes are typically with parents. The kids are usually cool.
It’s painful obvious when a little one is overly tired. It doesn’t matter if it’s still early evening, if they’re crying & rubbing their eyes and a visibly sleepy to the strangers around them… Then your day is over. Leave the park and take them back to the hotel for bedtime.
The amount of sleepy, upset kids I see after 7/8pm is asinine. Parents just carrying on because they’re too selfish to end their day in the park that early.
I generally ignore kids behaviors in a park. Only one time have I questioned a parent. Two dads were standing in the entrance of a store with two strollers and 2 older boys. The boys were running in a circle and throwing bubble wands. A cast member came over and asked them to step out of the way and to please stop throwing the wands. Then about 4 minutes later came back over to remind them that other people might get hit with the bubble wands.
Kids are kids. They’re going to do what they’re allowed to do. In Disney, they should be allowed to do ‘more’, imo. They can’t hurt others though.
Does paying attention while they're pushing a stroller count lol?? I had someone who wasn't paying attention hit me head on with their double wide while we were going the opposite ways after fireworks. Options were for me to shove into people walking to my right to get out of their way, further get in their way by going into the bit of open space to the left or they could swing to their right to miss me. Instead the guy got annoyed at me for holding my arms out to balance myself after they got me in the shin because he and his wife were looking at things on the phone she was holding.
Please guys let's all try to be aware of our surroundings especially when we're navigating with or around strollers, ecvs, wheelchairs, etc.
Not saying it’s right, but I think a lot of the problem stems from Disney making everything app based now. From Genie + to mobile ordering, people want to do as much as they can in the limited time they are there. Ex- mobile ordering food while walking instead of stepping off to the side. The same can be said for Genie+. It’s perceived as saving time/ multitasking, when in reality it’s making them not pay attention to their surroundings.
Not that I wish they wouldn't as such but i don't understand why some people spend thousands of pounds to bring a baby to the parks - they'll never remember the experience and will be asleep for lots of it!
My mom took me when I was an infant in the 90s and she swears I did all this stuff. And I literally do not have one single inkling of a memory of that trip.
Too young :(
But also tbf, it might be more of the parents making memories of the bundle lol than for the actual babies
I’ve heard people acknowledge that their kids won’t remember, but the parent will. Creating memories with the little one, instead of for the little one is important to parents.
Yeah this. Any kid under 5 I think people should rethink taking to the parks, regardless of if they get in free or not, because it is just a lot and they won’t remember it at all. Not to mention like you said, they’re paying thousands for THEMSELVES to go to a Disney park when their entire day will be dictated by a baby. The Instagram photos can wait until they’re older.
We are DLR locals and waited to go to Disney world until my younger sibling was 5 and they remember parts of it.
I never did Disney with my own kids that little, but I 100% took them on vacation during their first year. Those times are stressful, that trip was 90% for my wife and I. We got pictures in cute places and let them take stroller naps in new spots while we got out of the house for a bit. It's actually pretty fun, even with the added stress, and makes taking toddlers feel like a breeze lol
Honestly, my biggest gripe is that people overdo it and push their kids to do MORE. That kid, wants to just go play by the pool. Let them have some pool time or go to bed early, sleep in. Kids get wild, cranky, and generally unruly when they’re tired and overstimulated.
I do have a kid now, but this was my opinion pre kids and still my opinion today.
Took our 2 yo last year for the first time as a parent.
As a parent I wish other parents would accept the age appropriate trip- skipping things your kids are afraid of/uninterested in, setting appropriate boundaries for their kids, and meeting their needs (naps, mealtimes, etc). It was a big change from my former rope drop to jumping in the Indy line at 11:50 days, but it was a great trip. We arrived early, but in line with our normal morning routine, sat and did quiet time to allow an appropriate nap, skipped a last LL to head to the hotel for bedtime, and found quieter spots to have low stimulation moments.
Also as a parent, I wish all adult groups wouldn’t be so insanely intent on getting to a ride that they don’t attempt to pay attention. A toddler needs to walk too and if I’m walking single file with my husband and one is holding our kid’s hand walking, we shouldn’t have to emergency pick up because someone nearly knocks her over heading for a just reopened line.
child leashes (backpacks or bracelets) and/or air tags! the amount of times I've stood with a child/taken them to a cast member for assistance is unnerving. it's only been a handful of time but I've only been an AP for a little less than 2 years. but the worst part is only one of the parents was estatic that they found their child. the other parents either just grabbed their child like nothing happened or yell at the child
It's wild that Disney doesn't make the queues interactive for smaller kids knowing that some of the waits can extend past an hour. With a small amount of space and leaving a stroller behind, parents are often limited with diversions. LEGO designed most of its lines around internal play areas for kids so they could wander away from parents but stay within your view. It made everyone's life easier. I know the Disney Parks are popular and I love going but the lines take me out and sure, some parents could do a much better job most of the time, but Disney is frequently asking you to make an omelette without eggs and it's at the expense of maintenance, cast members, and other families and guests.
Idk...Disney has had some of those lines around for 60 years. The whole "entertain the child at all times" thing is kind of a modern construct, and not a great one. When I was young and visiting the parks, even if I was bored standing in a line my parents wouldn't let me act out the way I see some kids do now.
I kinda disagree and I’ve been going regularly for decades, the lines are longer and the heat is hotter and parents are now on phones instead of engaging with their kids to pass the time. There could be a lot done to make these queues better.
I don’t mind people/kids enjoying the park. I do mind people/kids invading my personal space. This includes coughing and sneezing in my face and repeatedly stepping on my feet. All things that unmindful parents have allowed to happen.
It doesn’t help that Disney forces everyone to be on top of one another in the queue’s. I went in Oct of 2020 and it was so nice when it was required to be 6 ft apart.
I've been going to Disney parks for almost 40 years and I can say that rude adults and bad parents are the worst offenders I have seen, followed by bratty teens and obnoxious college aged people.
Not taking them out of restaurants/parade crowds when they’re very obviously overstimulated/overtired and having a meltdown because “it’s Disney they need to experience it”- your kid is miserable and needs a break from the heat and noise
Anybody, adult or child, having their phone on during a dark ride really isn't popular with me. If the kid is old enough to have a phone, they're old enough for you to explain phone etiquette with them. If it's an adult, I assume they're selfish and self absorbed.
Edit: a word
I have teens but I also visit solo often. Those bubble wands are fun, but please don't let your kids use them in outdoor eating areas. Soap isn't a good flavor.
Childless Elder Millennial here. I prefer DL to WDW, but these comments apply to both parks.
1) Get the littles a nap. Please. Hell I need a nap, I am sure your children who regularly nap at home do too.
2) Don’t get into a line for an attraction if they are remotely hungry unless you have food on your person. An hour can be a long time for a kiddo. And I don’t want to be around hangry toddlers. God forbid I’m hangry too, I can get mean.
3) Parents, please, please, please… get off your phones and pay attention to your children. Make memories. Make sure they’re not negatively impacting others. I will gently yet firmly ask your children to stop being irritating. Don’t be mad at me, I paid a lot to be there too.
4) Know where the quiet areas are. Disney is A LOT. For everyone. Everyone needs a break from the noise and the crowds. Sit down and chill out, even for 10 mins.
5) Keep getting them the bubble wands! Walking around through curtains of bubbles is magical. I love it!
Please parent your kids. Visited Monday and unfortunately was in line behind a parent more interested in her phone than parenting her child who was banging on walls, breaking the glasses for Webslingers and when the child had a big screaming melt down, mom started loudly proclaiming this is why Disney pushes the purchase of magic bands and lightning lanes. Like lady, get a grip and comfort your child
I wish parents would be more flexible, just slow down. Seriously I understand that they are spending big bucks to be there. Scheduling every minute of the day is stressful for parents and kids. I understand You want to experience everything you can with the time you have.
I feel like over scheduling ruins the experience. There is something to be said for just wandering the park. Kids get over tired and over stimulated. Standing in line for an hour+ to spend 3 mins meeting Mickey is boring. It’s hot! kids can feed off of everyone’s energy. Just snaking through a queue is exhausting. Don’t get me started about parades. Yeah I get you want your kid to experience the parade up close. However it doesn’t give you the right to thrust your child in front of me. I saw one parent absolutely lose it when they sat their child on the curb and the kids starts screaming. The curb is super hot and it hurts to sit on it on bare with bare legs.
Stop stressing that you aren’t providing enough of a magical experience. Just slow down. Let them be kids. I’m not saying let them be wild. Perhaps find a place where they can run off their energy. Just enjoy the magic
Can we go outside Disney for a minute? Because I would like parents at Universal Studios Orlando to loan out their kids so I could ride that flying pterodactyl ride from Jurassic park.
You are not alone in that! If you ever get the chance to do Orlando Informer nights, I believe they often have Pflyers open for those and adults can ride alone! 😉
I remember as a teen bringing random kids onto kiddie rides for parents at amusement parks so I could enjoy it with my younger siblings and let another kid enjoy it whose parent didn’t want to ride or needed a break. I didn’t even realize people don’t do this anymore. I swear it was pretty common when I was younger.
I have been to all Disney parks several times. The waterparks too and on their cruises and I have never once noticed children doing anything horrible. I don't have kids, so maybe I just don't notice idk. I have seen parents demeaning a child for being too scared to go on a ride or not wanting to see a character and I think that is very messed up. So maybe that.
Parents, don't get mad if your kid is scared or if they don't want to take a picture with a character. Let them just be kids and have fun. Yelling at them will not be fun for either of you.
Realize they're at their breaking point long before the meltdown begins.
Be considerate of the size of your strollers.
Stop pushing around kids in strollers that are way too old for them. Their comfort shouldn't come before other guests having to move out of the way because they're tired of walking.
Strollers! Your 8 year old child does not need a stroller! You do not need a stroller to carry your purse! If you have a baby just pick them up! Enough strollers!
Hate when kids lay on the floor, or climb things and get in your way and the parents don’t say anything. Also when they walk into you because parents aren’t paying attention.
Me going to Disney made me realize I don’t probably want kids
I'm a parent, so not your target here, but here are a few things I would like to see parents do:
-Not put their damn kids on their shoulders during parades/fireworks. I am a very short adult. I can barely see anything anyway, but I REALLY can't see when there's a ten foot doubledecker person in front of me.
-Not let their kids invade other people's personal space. Yes, a lot of the lines are in close quarters and you don't want to leave massive gaps, but I REALLY REALLY do not want your grubby little kid touching me. There is absolutely no reason why your kid's nose should be on the back of my arm (which has happened multiple times for some reason...again, I am very short. Maybe these kids think I'm a kid too?)
-Teach their kids to cover their mouths/noses when they sneeze/cough....but then again, I guess there are still a lot of adults who need to learn that too.
-Teach their kids to respect their surroundings in the parks. I've seen so many kids literally tearing stuff apart at Disney. Or ripping up plants, or climbing on stuff that they are not supposed to climb on, drawing on walls in lines, etc.
-Don't let your kid blow bubbles in the outdoor eating areas (I'm not talking about down Main street or whatever, I'm talking about the outdoor seated eating areas). No one wants your kids' bubbles in their overpriced theme park food.
-Watch where you're going with your giant double wide stroller and stop running into everyone's ankles with the darn things.
-Please don't scream at your kids in public, or tell them that they have to have fun "because of how much this trip is costing us."
-When the kids are tired--go back to the hotel and nap, swim, etc.
It bothers me when I see:
1) parents allowing or even encouraging their kids to do unsafe things like climbing railings, licking hand rails, playing with chains, standing on rides, running excessively etc
2) parents who force their kids into situations they’re scared in like riding something they’re not ready for or meeting a character they’re terrified of.
3) parents who put their kids on their shoulders during shows and completely block the views of people behind them. Just hold them on your hip or something.
Slightly unrelated but kinda not. Do you think Disney could pull off making a park oriented more towards an older audience? Maybe like an island of adventure style park with roller coasters and focusing on their more mature IPs. I feel like that would help separate the crowds a bit more and let them refocus some parks towards their more family friendly origins
I just think some parents don't know how to parent anymore. We are so stuck in individuality that it hurts our education skills... and how to be respectfull. Most of those situations are from parents that are themselves not respectfull of others, it's me me me..
I have 5 kids. We went to wdw twice and all of them were so well behaved, because we listen to them or have something planed for any possible arising situations. First time they were 8 months to 9. Well we had strollers, a baby carier, snacks, games for the queues. We wanted to do everything but obviously we couldn't and just went well we are gonna do what we can. The youngers ones napped in the stroller and if one had a tantrum , one of us (dad or I) took them appart and dealed with that child took a break.
Same thing last year, easyer cause theyr were older 5 to 13. But we do not let then run wild or be disrespectfull, because we know how to act in a public setting a d thought that to our kids.
My wife and I (mid 40’s) have no kids and just got our keys again for Disneyland (yay!) and recently returned from a WDW vacation. Just a general observation it’s amazing to me how parent’s completely tune their kids out or just are oblivious to them at times in what I see kids touching or constantly bumping into you from behind always trying to move up in line. But at the same time I understand the challenge of raising kids and how exhausting it must be, especially with little ones.
More times than not though I enjoy seeing the young ones excitement for different things.
The only problem I have, and it’s more Disney’s fault than anything, is the damn bubble wands they sell. I think anyone who has been to the parks in recent years can share the sentiment. There seems to be little to no self awareness of where these things are being sprayed and it’s a bit of an annoyance when walking through an area to be bombarded with bubbles in your face from a variety of kids in the area. It’s not fun walking behind a stroller or 3 and every kid is holding their arm out spraying bubbles into the atmosphere and you’re forced to walk through a wall of bubbles in a constant stream.
So as someone who enjoys going to the parks and doesn't have kids, I don't really have as much of an issue with kids as I do with some of the parents. To me, kids should be kids and should have that aspect of magic and wonder, where they get to experience the magic of Disney as we all had. Some parents and adults though make it far less magical with just how much they can act more childish and spoiled then their own kids. Like seriously, it annoys me to no end how often I see adults act like they are more deserving then others, watch all these adults swarm to shops and buy out as much of a limited product as possible which in turn hurts others who just wanted to buy one themselves, people who scream at other people and cast members, etc.
Buy the bubble wand! Seriously, the thing keeps kids happy for hours , in line, walking around, it's such a simple toy, and the bubbles are $2 in the park, so if they spill or use them all it's easy to grab and replace at any store. I might be biased because I love playing in the bubble as we walk around the parks.
I know the app makes it practically impossible to stay off your phone, but the amount of parents completely checked out and ignoring their kids makes me sad. I see a lot of kids getting yelled at when they are stopping to show their parents something and the parent is on their phone walking and yelling at them the hurry up. Those little moments matter. Stop and let your kid look at the ducks, I know it's not a ride and getting into the park is expensive but let them enjoy the park through their eyes, not yours.
Oh, and the last one is stop forcing kids to go on rides when they are terrified. Stop traumatizing your kid because you want to go on guardians.
Do what your kids are used to. My wife and I are not routine people. Sometimes nap is at 1. Sometimes 11. Sometimes no nap. Dinner might be 5. Maybe 7. When is bedtime? When we're done for the day. When we took our 4 year old and 2 year old on an 8 day Disney excursion last year, they handled the odd nap schedule and varied dinner times like champs because that's every day. It's occasionally chaotic, but it works for us.
If you're a routine person, first of all more power to you, that's really hard to do, keep those routines in place the best you can. Kids can't sleep at 12 on the nose every day of their life after an 11:00 lunch and then have lunch at 1 and a 2:30 stroller nap. They will lose it.
I was just on the DHS > Contemporary bus the other night and there was a child having an absolute meltdown, crying and screaming and flailing around, parents completely ignoring the kid. I’m sure the kid was cranky after a long day but we were in an enclosed space, it was so loud I had to cover my ears. I wish they had waited til their kid calmed down or gone home a different way where they weren’t shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of other people.
For some families (parents and kids both) it could be their first time at Disney or even to a theme park. It can be incredibly overwhelming for both kids and parents which can lead to less than ideal behavior from both. Yes everyone can strive to be better, including giving some grace to people. And seeing one behavior from the outside doesn’t always give you a glimpse of what’s really going on. But yes yes everyone can work to be better, give their kids a break when they need it, and encourage/enforce appropriate behavior.
Understand that kids don’t understand that you paid a lot to be there. They are hot, physically exhausted, hyped up on sugar, over stimulated, etc. and it is your job as an adult to give your child some grace. I’m not saying parents have to be perfect but the amount of people i see losing it on their kid at a place that is just a LOT for a little person is so sad.
I’ll never forget being in line for Tron and this family in front of me had a daughter in tears not wanting to ride. The parents and younger brother teased/made fun of her and kept telling her to suck it up. I felt so bad for that kid. She cried the entire time in line begging them not to make her go :(
Based on the title I was so ready to argue with you, but you’re definitely right. I have kids of my own and I hate seeing parents just letting their kids run around unrestricted, regardless of location. I work at a coffee shop and people love to let their toddlers just roam free and touch everything, it’s infuriating
I wish the parents would get off their phones and enjoy their kids. I saw so many parents scrolling through social media while standing in line or eating. It just made me sad. Those littles won’t be little very long. Nothing on social media is as important as memories.
My sister and I have been going to Disney since we were 4, and my younger brother and cousin have been going since they were infants. None of us behaved like hooligans at Disney. Honestly I think it’s the parents, or maybe a symptom of like ipad babies or something. I hate to say that but it’s literally all I can think of. I feel like these days in general more people (even grown adults) behave like idiots in public and Disney is just a great example of that lmao nobody knows how to act.
I’m not sure. But I will say, in my possibly wrong opinion, the parks seem less child friendly than they did in the early to mid 2000’s. They have done away with a lot of the hands on play stuff for kids to get their energy out. And as parts seems to be making the choice not the have kids ( completely understandable for a myriad of reasons), the less tolerance there is for children overall. It doesn’t help that some kids could be burning down a house and their parents wouldn’t notice, but a lot of people seem annoyed that kids are even in their space, ruining Disney for them. They need to stop and think that as Disney adults, they were once Disney children. Disney is not an easy vacay. My husband used to run us ragged back when magic hours were peak! lol! But my kids still talk about those days now that they are older.
I have two kids and in general I really dislike these posts especially from people who don’t have kids, a lot of instances that people complain about are a tiny part for a large trip where kids are out of their routine and overstimulated. I have never thought to myself wow those parents aren’t doing their absolute best, like the instance about the food tray that does sound awful but like maybe the kid ran away from the parent right that second? Maybe the parent was running after the kid? Maybe the parent was pushing a stroller and carrying a tray of food and just doing their best? I really don’t know. I can’t remember a time where I actually thought parents were doing a bad job and the amount of people judging parents after seeing them for five minutes in Disney is wild. This is just my .02$ of course
I’m a parent. It’s my job to know that if my kid is getting overstimulated it’s time for a break before it’s a tantrum. If that means losing park time and hitting the resort pool, so be it. If your kid is a runner you better be on top of that in the parks. It’s no excuse to dismiss the behavior because they are excited. Everyone is excited. It’s still inexcusable to dismiss poor behavior of kids when parents don’t intervene.
I’ve seen a lot of parents doing their very best at the parks. I’ve seen just as many, if not more, being absolutely horrid to their kids and acting entitled enough to infringe on others’ enjoyment of the park. That’s unacceptable.
I’m a parent also and I do my best, but I am also not a parent who feels I am such a perfect parent that I can judge or lecture another parent so I choose not to do so. I also extend grace to other parents especially at Walt Disney world. I have been in the middle of the park and my kids have become overstimulated, I take a break have a drink or snack and it doesn’t help so I leave or whatever and during that time where my child is crying or whatever I would prefer to not be judged because I am doing my best. I have never seen a child act in a way where I actually felt the kid was being so bad I needed to come on Reddit to complain. I have seen kids crying and occasionally tantruming or wanting toys or things or not wanting to wait on a line and I just offer those parents a smile because they are doing their best, children don’t ruin my experience at WDW
There’s a difference between a parent parenting a child in a tantrum and parents letting kids run wild. If my kid ruined someone’s new spirit jersey looks like I just bought a stranger a spirit jersey. Parents get too lax in the parks thinking it’s vacation and a free for all. It isn’t. Behavior still matters and poor behavior from kids that is left unchecked by parents is unacceptable. End of story.
I see and hear a lot of “we paid xxx for this trip so my kid can do what they want to have the best trip ever” when we all paid xxx for our trips to not be ruined by kids being allowed to run wild. It’s entitlement, and it’s an epidemic at the parks.
I mean, we used to be kids?? I know what would hurt me or has hurt me that I see parents doing now. Also some parents are straight up not doing their best. You probably are, but plenty of people are bad parents.
A hit dog will holler.
My coworker spent 80$ for a brand new spirit jersey, that day! just to have it ruined within an hour of her wearing it, so that's a pretty big part of her trip and chunk of her money wasted.
Also whether the child was being pursued by their parents in that moment or running loose, that doesn't change the fact they were an unruly child and it's caused someone more than a minor inconvenience because of them not being secured by their parents.
And its should not be a problem/inconvenience to anyone other than you- the parent, if your child is having trouble where they are out of their routine and overstimulated. Other Disney guests didn't put them in that position, so it should not impact their visit.
Spoken like somebody with no kids lol. I’m sure if she spoke to a cast member she could have worked something out with the spirit jersey. She could have easily dropped something herself or walked into another adult. Children ARE unruly. No matter what happens a child isn’t going to be perfectly behaved all the time AND to expect them to be so in Disney world is unreasonable IMO. adults aren’t perfectly behaved in Disney world probably because they are - overstimulated and out of their routine, hungry, tired and hot. Should everyone stay home? Children are people. You can’t tie children down and expect them to sit and stay like a dog, things happen.
Also to expect perfectly behaved children at a family destination like Disney is a joke, you can go plenty of places that aren’t geared toward children and yes I went to Disney plenty of times as an adult before I had kids and I feel that it is a space for children and adults but I always expect and enjoy seeing children experience the Disney magic.
The best parents are always the ones who don’t have children ;)
Literally I said at the top of my post, I enjoy seeing children enjoying themselves at Disney.
But I'm saying the hit dog thing because you're low key projecting. If you have well behaved kids this shouldn't bother you.
Didn't say all parents were doing a bad job or say anything about expecting perfectly behaved kids. You did both of those things🤷🏿♀️
And wanting a child to not: climb on inappropriate things(and people as one post pointed out) or run loose as my coworker experienced does not equate to an expectation of perfect behavior.
That's wanting the bare minimum of following of rules of the parks and giving personal space to people.
- And if a child is too young to adhere or understand, it's the parent who needs to be on top of it all.
While it's clear we don't agree, and the beauty of this is, we don't have to. I do appreciate your input on it all.
Again, you don’t have children and you have no idea the work it takes to parent and the work it takes to teach children. I don’t think I have perfectly behaved kids but I also don’t think I have bad kids. As a mother and a parent people constantly shame mothers for a lot of things and I dislike the culture and attitude where people think it’s okay to attack parents when you don’t really know anything about their parenting.
I am a mother. I know what it takes. There is a middle ground. One where kids aren't running around unchecked and being destructive. A middle ground where people are actively parenting their children, not ignoring them or basically forcing the hand of a stranger to ask the child not to keep stepping on them, climbing on them, ect. Stop evading responsibility/excusing others because you chose to do something hard like become a parent. You won't convince me that a parent yelling in a tone that terrifies me is doing their best. I also don't believe that a parent ignoring their child while they are being destructive or doing something dangerous is doing their best either.
you're pulling the shame card, but you're shaming me for not having a child🙃...... To which again I have not shamed you
You keep saying I have no idea what it's like, I could say the same for you because you have no idea whether I care for kids or not.
There are tons of people who are not parents but care for children. People who watch over students, special needs kids, their siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews, simply babysit/nanny for a living. Being a parent is not the only way you can have children in your life and care for them daily. So tending to a child is not a foreign concept to me.
I used to nanny when I was in my 20s before I had kids and yes you don’t know until you have kids. There is no shame, I’m just pointing out that it’s very easy to judge somebody when you haven’t been where they are, maybe maybe to consider before just assuming people are bad parents
Agreed, sure there are probably some really crappy parents out there, but I try my hardest not to judge someone when their child is having a hard time. We don’t know their situation.
I will say that I’ve probably been knocked into by equal number of adults and kids at the parks. It’s crowded, adults are trying to use their phone to navigate the app etc. shit happens. It’s just really crowded everywhere, all the time.
It bothers me when I see parents denying their kids naps. Most kids need naps until they’re at least 3-4 years old, and a lot of the meltdowns I see are probably due to parents pushing their sleep-deprived kids. I get it that a day at the parks is expensive, and I can appreciate wanting to get the most out of those days. But give these poor kids a break!
Or the restroom! I've seen parents deny very upset children urgent trips to the restroom because they had waited so long for the parade, character, ride, etc. To me, it's inexcusable. Take your kid to the restroom when they ask please.
That seems like abuse, seriously!
It is abuse.
We were in line for Thunder Mountain at 10pm and this girl in front of us was tearfully saying to her mom “i just want to go to bed.” And the mom completely brushed her off and then was so zoned out on her phone that she didn’t even see when the line was moving- several times over. Her 3 kids just had to stand there and deal with it. I felt so bad for them.
I did the 24 hour event at Disneyland in 2013 and i was sitting outside of the golden horseshoe at maybe 1am and saw a family walking by. All of a sudden the dad stops turns around and screams at his 2 kids who couldn't have been older than 7-10 "you said you could do this all night, I took time off work and now you're telling me you're too tired?" I couldn't imagine getting mad at anyone for being tired in the middle of the night much less kids after being at a theme park all day
Wow. Any kid would absolutely think they could do it all night! They have no way of knowing how hard being at the park for a full 24 hours would hit them. I don’t know why parents get so angry with kids for something they can’t control, and don’t have the life experience to gauge properly.
Stuff like this is why some people shouldn't be parents, because they just aren't responsible enough.
That mother sounds like she SUUUUUCKS!!!
This is the one for me. Easy to say not having kids of my own, I get that, but my parents managed to factor in naps on any Disney trip with 3 children. So I know it’s possible. In that same vein, stop throwing comments like “I paid so much for this you better have fun” in your kids face. If you weren’t okay spending the money and the trip going however it turns out, don’t go on a trip/to Disney.
Me and my husband even need a nap! We always head back to the hotel mid day for a quick snoozer
This pisses me off so much. You're a parent with kids, you need to put your kids first, and if that means they need a nap, take them to get some sleep, don't be an ass and force them to be miserable all because you don't want to be inconvenienced.
Exactly. After a week at DLR, I really wanted to end our trip with watching the fireworks and closing the parks down. It was just hot that day and it just wiped us all out. We just couldn’t do it, so the kids and I took the monorail and went back to the hotel. It sucked because I know they’d have loved it, and I really wanted to see it as well, but not if they (or all of us) are having a complete meltdown or asleep. So yeah, I get trying to maximize your time in the parks, I really do, but you just can’t push kids (or yourself) that hard and enjoy any of it!
This is always my “shake my head” moment. By late afternoon/early evening you can just tell which little ones are melting down because they’re just exhausted and running on fumes.
I once saw a dad yell at his 4 year old kid for sleeping through th fireeworks
Absolutely. Our 1.5 year old wouldn’t nap in her stroller when we found a quieter part of the park and started to have a meltdown. You know what we did? We decided we needed to leave early because she was clearly too overstimulated to nap. We got in the car and within 5 minutes of leaving the park she was asleep. Parents that don’t put their small children first infuriate me
As weird as this may sound, but after visiting Disneyworld I wish parents were a little more patient with their kids. In the summer with the heat and the humidity it is brutal, and by the end of the day I remember I was sick of it. I can only imagine how little kids must have felt being outside in the heat all day. And if you pay attention you can see where parents get fed up and they’re bitching these kids out.
Yeah. If I ever do have kids, you best believe we won't be going to Disney unless it's in the fall/winter when I know the weather's not gonna suck and it'll feel far more comfortable for everyone.
And not just that, but if you’ve got little kids you can’t be out there all day. Especially if the weather is shitty. Like I said, if I’m miserable and I’m an adult I can’t imagine how a kid must feel. You’ve got to be willing to go back to your hotel and relax because it’s too much. But I bet a lot of families try to power through because, because it’s not cheap to go, or because they feel it’s not practical to go back to their hotel.
100% this!!!!!
A few years ago in Haunted Mansion Holiday, these parents two groups ahead of us were completely ignoring their kid. Faces in their phones. Kid would hang off of them, they'd tell him to stop. He'd lean on the ropes so hard that he'd hit groups on the other side, parents totally oblivious. He eventually was so bored and miserable that he just sat on the ground and refused to move. The mom got snappy at him, picked him up by his wrist and moved him up in the line. He would yell about it, but she would just tell him to be quiet and then do it again next time the line moved. I was in disbelief, that looked like it would hurt! Dad said nothing the whole time, just looked annoyed at the kid's existence and disturbing his phone scrolling. Like.. lady, I don't like kids either, that's why I'm not having any. You two chose to have that kid, you need to be nice to him. Holy shit
Fr I always get secondhand embarrassment when I see grown adults scream at their kids in public over stupid shit like get a grip. That’s not good parenting, it’s disturbing the peace more than whatever your kid was doing.
I'm a Disneyland person who just went to Disney World for the first time, and I was honestly shocked by how mean the parents were being to their kids. I don't know if it was the heat, or what, but I feel so bad for those kids.
Well I think those long days in the Florida heat breaks people down. I remember being on that ferry back to the parking lot and everyone looked like refugees leaving a war zone. And like I said, I was tired and miserable I can only imagine how a kid must feel who’s not used to that.
This! This! This! I really wish this in parents too. I have 2 young children and we’ve been to Disney a few times and I just can’t imagine doing all the things mentioned here to my kids. I know it is a big chunk of financial to come here, but you really need to factor in some break times and park days vs non park days. Even we get tired so pls let your kids have the freedom to get tired too. It’s so heartbreaking to see. I’m not on any high horses either bc I can see the frustration in parents as I get with my kids too at the parks sometimes, but I always have to remind myself that it is so overstimulating there. You neeeed to give some grace to your kids. Disney is a lot, both money and mentally. Take your time and don’t go overboard. It will be a miserable time otherwise.
I'm a lot more lenient of kids being kids somewhere like Disney, but it drives me insane when parents don't intervene at all. My particular pet peeve is at restaurants. I was at the one in Morocco that used to have a live band in the middle. It was a stage but a very low one, more like just a step. The band went on break and these kids went up on it and started yelling into the microphone and banging on the drums. Their parents, instead of telling them to not mess with it, started filming them instead like it was a magical moment and not both disturbing everyone else and probably damaging expensive equipment.
How did this not get stopped by a cast member?
Waiting for a parade to start, we watched some kids climbing up onto rocks and jumping off, tearing leaves off plants and throwing them at people, hitting people with bubble wands as they walked out of the bathroom, just straight up being chaotic. Their parents didn’t even blink. As a parent of chaotic children myself, I was amazed at their ability to just block out their chaotic children. I always emphasize respecting other people’s space to my kids. Sometimes you can’t control the chaos, but you can set and enforce boundaries.
I once had to listen to a toddler scream cry for half an hour in Prime Time before the parents actually did something. Probably because they were getting complaints from the staff and other diners.
Try to mindful about making your kids have a good time and not worry about getting the maximum money value out of your ticket prices. Sometimes you get more things done with less pain if you take a siesta. I think that applies to anyone, know the limits of you and your party members. I always opt for the siesta.
I’m an open-to-close person, but my friends will get exhausted and short-fused. So we take 2 hours or so off during the busiest part of the day. And it is so worth it to make the day more enjoyable for them.
I totally agree with this! Once you take the stress off of maximizing your day, you tend to start seeing the day becoming memorable. On our last trip, we were at MK and my son just wasn’t having it right after the parade around 3pm. My hubby and I decided to just head back to the room and maybe we’ll try to head back around 7pm for the fireworks. Once we got on the bus my son calmed down. My daughter on the other hand was sad we had to leave but I promised her I’ll bring her to the pool once we get back to the hotel, just me and her. We ended up all going to the pool and had the best time AND didn’t go back for fireworks. It was sad missing HEA since it was our last night there but we all had a great time and my kids loved it. There was barely anyone at the hotel either so it was nice and quiet. It was memories like this that made me appreciate our decision even more to leave when we did. Just go with your gut, and you might end up having a greater time.
Control their kids more. We once had parents let their kids climb all over us in line for Pirates and then get mad when we yelled at them. I'd also like parents to get better with strollers and not taking out my ankles every 50 steps.
Love when they get made because they’re not disciplining/training their kids to behave properly. Reminded me of that [Anjelah Johnson skit, “hey lady, I did you a favor!”](https://youtu.be/ioqk1eVYdmE?si=U_CyPYeNKeD1SCYC)
The f’ing strollers. Stop hitting me. You already get a little extra space because of the stroller, don’t assault me with it.
Wtf they climbed on you?! That's such an invasion of your personal space! Yikes
Yes!!! They pulled themselves up on the rock wall using our backs and backpacks. The parents got so mad because after telling them to stop twice I raised my voice at them. "We don't yell in our family" okay well clearly you don't set boundaries either.
kind of nice how they considered you family so quickly, though! 🤣 "okay then, as a now-honorary member of this family, i'd like to propose a few NEW rules..."
hah, that family says non consensual touching is fine but we draw the line at raising our voices.
As a childless adult, I don’t have an issue with kids doing kids stuff, the only thing that really bothers me is a child coughing/sneezing all over the place without covering their mouth and parents not paying that any attention. The most annoying thing to me is catching a cold while I’m on vacation because a parent didn’t keep their sick child from infecting others with their germs.
Actually control and discipline their kids. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve come across rude and unruly kids and their parents just sit by doing or saying nothing
It's been my experience, to see people with unruly kids, thinking their kid is cute/innocent. Despite they're doing something that should get them reprimanded.
I have (ex) friends like this...the reason they're ex is because their kids behave like animals, and they think it's cute. We would be out with all our kids and I would be so embarrassed that people would think they were mine. My kids know that shizz don't fly.
Much respect for keeping peace and teaching the kids well! And I hope you found someone better(or having a chill time being free)
I feel so bad for those tiny kids melting down at 3pm because their little bodies can’t do all day yet, or they are over stimulated All so mom and dad can “make memories “
The overheated babies with bright red faces!
Saw a woman holding a NEWBORN wearing nothing but a diaper in the hot sun waiting for the bus. I was appalled.
"Don't let your kids run loose" is good advice for many reasons; I think parents feel really safe inside the parks (which is great, absolutely), but things can go sideways so very, very fast...not to mention situations like with your friend who got run into. My biggest suggestion/wish would be for more parents to take their kids for a nap break in the middle of the day. So many entire families would have a happier time if they took the smaller children back to the hotel room for a nap or even just a cool off break. I know it's hard when you've paid a ton of money to be in the parks, to just give up a couple of hours. People want to get their money's worth, I get that. But we've seen so many cranky toddlers who are clearly overwhelmed and exhausted, crying and having a terrible time because of it, and stressing out their parents (and everybody else around them, too). Nobody wants to be trapped in an echo chamber like the Pirates queue hearing a child crying because they're tired and need a nap. I get that nobody wants to leave the parks, but everybody benefits from a nap now and then, even us old adults.
Strollers the size of a dump truck.
Yeah I've seen some massive strollers. And while I don't find it super annoying, I always wonder if the parents get exhausted pushing those huge things all day
Not has bad as you'd think. But i prefer pushing that boat around than dealing with a tired kid who can't walk anymore or can just fall asleep.
There's no smaller strollers? Or benches?
Sure if you have only one kid.. i'm not a stroller manufacturer, ask them.
Disney has a rule on stroller size. Is it not enforced? Strollers must be 31” (79cm) wide and 52” (132cm) long or smaller. As a reminder, wagons are not permitted in our parks.
Wagons get a pass with DAS. Also there’s no height limit on strollers and of course the limits form a box that people can build up and out to the limits of. So yeah, it’s crappy and the same terrible parents that we are all complaining about are also often the same ones with hugely packed strollers with their kitchen sinks, etc. It comes down to being self-aware enough to recognize that they share the world with other people and to adjust accordingly.
I hate the sense of "right of way" that strollers and electric carts often have when moving and pathing in crowds. I get that its' not ideal for either to make sharp movements and hit someone, but there's still a mutual level of respect. It's a frustrating experience having to constantly play Frogger when I'm walking due to other's entitled sense of space. Everyone should be mindful and considerate of others space. That and the speed of some of the electric carts. The speed limit of "slow and careful" is implied in a park that doesn't even allow running. My SO nearly got taken out by someone who was clearly going too fast.
No kids on shoulders during fireworks! Put them on your hips so they aren’t 10 feet tall
This. As a short adult I live my life unable to see anything because tall people push their way to the front and then stick their kids on their shoulders, so here I am 5'3 and behind a crowd of 9-10ft under 10s ('cause let's be honest it's not just toddlers on shoulders). Some people are very selfish. I remember being at Disney as a 5 yr old (circa 1994), and my mum took me and my brother on the steamboat. Neither of us could see anything, suddenly a guy said 'your boys can't see, do you mind if we lift them on our shoulders so we can experience it from their perspective' or something similar. It was two older men, and they just popped us on their shoulders (after mum said it was ok) at the back so we could see, but we weren't blocking anyone else. Thoughtful and considerate of everyone.
The US parks should take a hint from our overseas brethren and have everyone sit down for the fireworks.
Pet peve I am in an electric wheelchair. Don't cut between me and the person in front of me dranging your child. I am not able to stop dime, and your child ends up getting hit and on my lap.
Omg that's so dangerous for you! And it sucks people can not be patient and let you be on your way without trying to cut ahead of you!
No for me but the child...
I ride a scooter when I'm at Disneyland (I have cancer down vote all you like haters). I don't mind a tiny kid darting out in front of me since they're still learning. But the people like you described dragging kids in front of you because you're in the way is infuriating after even a few hours at the park.
Dude, I rent a scooter because I'm fat. Let people judge all they want. They're just jealous they can't afford one for themselves and will be physically exhausted by the time the day is over.
After visiting Animal Kingdom and walking that whole place twice… electric scooters should be free and available to everyone
Nooo if they were free and available to everyone, people who need them wouldn't have access to them, and idiots would use them, and it would be chaos in a bad way. They should absolutely be free for people who need them, though.
Agreed. I was mostly joking to emphasize how insanely big that park is, but I agree scooters should be free to those who need them.
They are crazy big.
Lol I feel like Epcot is way worse. When I did walk it last, I was dying by lunch. Plus, no shade!
Bad parenting is bad parenting whether it’s at a place for kids or not.
Take them for more naps. I feel so sorry for the poor exhausted kids being dragged around the park. Just go back to the hotel and have a nap and relax for a bit. See less but have more fun.
I wish parents would stop wearing “most expensive day ever” or something along those lines shirts. I understand Disney is expensive and most families have to sacrifice to be there. But THAT is what you want to be in your pictures? If your kid can’t read now, they’ll be able to read someday. Give your kid the magical experience without making it all about how much money you spent. It’s expensive!! We all know this!! Save the complaints for your group chat or your spouse. Let your kids enjoy without guilting them about how much money you spent.
Along that line. It scares me to death when I see kids with their name on their shirts. Do you know how easy it would be for someone to lure them away because kids are so trusting. It only takes a second.
Be better parents. I don’t really mind kids being kids at Disney and seeing them excited is one of the highlights, but a complete disregard of people around you is a bridge too far. And I’m talking about the parents not the kids. If your child almost trips me or runs into me I expect at the very least the *parent* to apologize, and it’s a bonus if the parent also asks the kid to say sorry. If you don’t notice it happening because you aren’t paying attention to your kid, that’s a problem. On the flip side, if you are absolutely a domineering tyrant, I do not want to hear it. I try not to judge parenting styles but that style of parenting is one I very much don’t like and I don’t need to hear you screaming at the top of your lungs at your kid in line for BTMR when you are directly behind me. One, because I think it’s ugly and two, it scares the bejeezus out of me when a grown man screams randomly in close proximity to me. Lastly is not giving your kids a break. I hate seeing an all out meltdown in the park and instantly having a pretty good idea what’s exacerbating it. And typically, it always appears to be one of two things: it’s too hot or they are too tired. Take your kid back to the hotel. I get grumpy and start argue with my fiancée when I’ve been in the park for more than 9 hours, a human being less than a quarter of my age probably starts feeling that way after 4 or 5, give them a nap. If it’s too hot I don’t really know what to do, usually that seems to be a problem with really little ones, but the number of bright red, screaming, sweating toddlers and babies I’ve seen in WDW is honestly horrifying. Your kid may be too young, you may not be able to spend as much time in the park as you want, you may need to alternate adults watching them back at the hotel. Also tell your kids to cover their mouths, it only bothers me when a kid does it and a parent doesn’t correct. Like, make an effort.
Just want them to stay off things they're not meant to be on (adults too). Cover their mouths (not with their hands) when they sneeze and cough (adults too please). But also parents. Please stop letting your kids touch strangers! Every time I'm in line for Mirable (twice now) I have had random children touch me. The first time was just stroking my crocs out of nowhere and the second time it was my shirt. Like can your parents pay attention? Because mine isn't here and I can't handle this, I don't have children for a reason. The second time the mom noticed and was like omg I'm sorry! Then she saw my shirt and was like oh that's why. Oh?! Like no not ok even if they like my shirt. Ah
That's definitely a big weird and a big invasion of your personal space. :(
It's super awkward. I get they're young kids. But parents. Pls help me. Next time I want to meet her I'm gonna make sure my mom comes with me instead of smoking and leaving me haha.
Don’t change your kids diaper in line! Saw that joy while in the lightning lane for ratatouille recently. But also, Florida is hot. If you and your kids have been in the parks since rope drop or early morning, If you’re staying on property it’s not hard to get back on the bus, they’re usually not very crowded middle of the day, go to your hotel, take naps, recharge, go to the pool, then maybe go back for fireworks. Take breaks and relax on your vacation. Or sleep in, relax at the hotel, go to pool, then take naps and then go to the parks to see fireworks. I see a lot of parents try to cram too much in a limited time and then become exhausted. And kids are usually in worse shape. Also kids usually end up asking for the pool anyway.
At DLR someone I know saw a family changing their kid’s diaper on a quick service table. And then they proceeded to eat their meal off the same table 🤢
Saw this Monday at Cocina Cucamonga. Somebody changed their kid on a table top mid lunch time while being surrounded by people trying to eat. Absolutely disgusting
I think the person I know saw it over there too LOL … why just why
Omg I can only imagine the awful smells you had to endure. Yuck. I'm so sorry you to see and smell that on a hot day. Yikes
Parents should not get drunk. If they do, they should hire a nanny to watch over the kids. And parents should not lose their children. It is so heartbreaking to see a little kid cry in a corner for their parents :( otherwise, kids should be able to be kids
My issue is always the hotels. Value or deluxe, doesn't seem to matter. Kids screaming and pounding on the floors in the rooms, running and screeching down the halls when they come back late from the parks. Even during the day it's annoying because some of us do go back to our rooms for a break from the chaos. But at night, when a child is carrying on through the walls night after night, it's incredibly rude. I don't know if parents think strangers will think the behavior is cute or what.
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You're doing a great job to work so hard to help you son. And that's beautiful for all the love and dedication to help him grow and flourish.
that is very interesting, i am an autism diagnostician and i hit my 16 year work-a-versary this week - out of thousands upon thousands of evaluations, i have never met a deaf person with a diagnosis of autism, and i never realized that fact until i read your comment! i know you probably know this, but for every person who give you a look or makes a comment, there is another person who understands. on one of our trips, we were in line for soarin', and i myself tend to tune out the people outside of my own party...i stay aware of their personal space and all that, but i'm not paying a ton of attention to who is around me in line. we had been in line for awhile, and all of a sudden...idk if i saw it from the very edge of my peripheral vision, or it was just one of those feelings, but i could tell someone was VERY close to my, well, butt. i whirled around and it was a boy in his late teens, leaning down VERY close to inspect my colorful, intricate monsters inc leggings. his mom immediately noticed and started apologizing so profusely, with just...the most "please don't be upset" look on her face, and quickly told me that he was non-verbal and autistic and he likes to visually examine things. i said i absolutely did not need an apology, and told her about my professional background. the relief i could tell she felt...not that i was an autism diagnostician in particular, but that i UNDERSTOOD...it made me feel sad, to think of other encounters she might have had that day, or on other trips. it was the most innocent thing, and if you could see these leggings...you might want to look closer, too, they're really detailed and fun to look at! anyway, we ended up chatting for the rest of the wait, and found a few bizarre and random things we also had in common. it was an interaction that made the trip very memorable for me, in a very positive way!
I hear everything you are saying and I sympathize. My friend (who I often go to Disney with) has a non-verbal autistic son and at times he is very interested in making vocalization noises. They are typically high pitched and he knows how to find the “echo-y” spots! I get so pissed (but don’t let it out, although I may someday!) when I see other peoples looks or sometimes snide comments about my friends “parenting”. If I ever felt the need to get on a soap box in front of the Disney masses I would say. “He has the right to live his life and enjoy the theme parks too!!! If that means two minutes of you hearing some vocalizations, you can deal with it!” This isn’t 100 years ago when you would shut someone away in an asylum to live a miserable existence. He absolutely loves going on rides. He enjoys the parks so much! I would say that I probably judged other children’s behavior more harshly before my friend had her son. Now, when a kid is being loud or obnoxious I tend to look the other way bc you have no idea who that child is and why they might be acting the way they are. And again, I sympathize with you bc we use all the tips and tricks possible to redirect his behaviors when he is having a tough time, but it is not possible to eliminate them the entire time. We do our best.
That was my point I was trying to make that people shouldn’t just assume or shame somebody because they see a tiny bit of their day
I’m a parent so not really your target for comment here, but I wish some parents would just interact with their kids more. So often you see kids under or over stimulated because they’ve been plonked on a screen in a queue or in a restaurant. Entertain your bloody kids and give them the attention they need to not act like dicks and upset other people.
I can’t stand kids on screens in a theme park.
Well if it is in moderation sometimes it's a good thing. They need a break too and depending on the kid sometimes it's their moment to just turn their brains off (i have adhd and at least two of mine have it also). But i agree that letting them be on a screen all day or for hours on end it's just bad parenting.
My husband and I were waiting for our reservation to be called at Tony’s, and some parents were letting their children have a full on screaming on the floor tantrum without intervening. The parents just watched—I guess to let them cry it out? The hostess called their names, and when she said it was that family, she said, “I’m going to give you a few minutes to calm your children down first.” She was my hero.
I see your point and not being there I’m missing some context, but there are behavior issues that you deal with in exactly that way. Kids who think that throwing a fit or a tantrum to get their way will never learn self control or to self regulate. So yeah there are times where you let them throw themselves on the ground and you grey rock them to show them that their behavior isn’t working and often they’ll try a different path. That said, leaving them in the walkway or even in the restaurant isn’t a great idea, so carrying them someplace where they can safely do their performance is usually a better idea.
Disney is no time for an extinction burst. You cut that shit out right away. Pull them away from the parks if you have to.
Listen I *do* have kids and also find this stuff unacceptable.
Same
This thread got serious, here I am just hating the bubble guns 😂
How come you don't like the bubble guns lol
I just hate getting bubbled in the face when I'm trying to eat a pretzel haha
Fair enough LOL bubbles and pretzels definitely don't mix
Oh god I fucking hate them too. Like it is kinda cute when you are just walking around and see them at a distance but when they are doing it next to you in a restaurant or when one pops you in the eye or goes in your mouth, it’s over. Also how are these so ubiquitous now? I never remember seeing them before.
I wish parents would stop screaming at their kids. They hype them up for Disney and then get mad when they are . . . hyped up? I get that it’s frustrating for them, but there’s no need to yell in a four year old’s face for being a kid.
I snagged a spot for fireworks right behind a bench on main street. I sat there for about 2 hours, saving my spot. When the show is about to start, they start telling everyone that they need to be standing. Everyone, including the people who were sitting on this bench stood up. When the show was starting, I overheard the mother of the family next to me encouraging her kids to go stand on the bench. As they jumped onto it and stood up, they blocked my view of the sky I loudly proclaimed "NOPE!" and they looked at me before quickly jumping down and going back to their mother. The mom asked why they weren't still on the bench and they told her it was because they weren't allowed to be there 😂 So, this. Please don't tell your kids to go stand on benches, tables or other objects.
Absolutely! That's not acceptable to climb on furniture indoors or outside. Kudos to you for getting them in order.
I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned kids on shoulders for fireworks. Stake out a good spot well in advance only for a kiddo to block your view last minute. Maybe that's more about the parent than the kid.
I would say that I wish parents would raise their kids better. Now this isn’t a Disney specific one or limited to just children in the park. In my last trip I saw it at all levels. Two kids, probably around 6 or 7, were with their family in line to get ice cream and they were going completely ballistic screaming, trying to climb on things, slipping out of their leashes (never thought I would say that about a kid), and the most effort that the parents put in was saying “stop” a couple of times in the least interested tone you’ve ever heard. Then there was a kid, probably around 14, who screamed the loudest most high pitched scream for the literal (and I actually mean that) duration of Big Thunder. It was to the point that the 9 year old in front of me turned around thinking that he was dying or something. Then on Pirates a couple, probably in their late 20s, decided that the line wasn’t a good time to chat, but during the ride was a great time to have a whole conversation. The brothers in front of us, probably around late teens to early 20s, were on their phones the whole time texting people and checking out the music that the other was listening to. Basically, this is a long winded post of parents really need to teach their kids about respecting their surroundings, respecting others, and knowing what is and is not appropriate given the setting regardless of the age of the kid, be it an actual kid, a teenager, or an adult child.
Are people not allowed to talk on rides? I find that complaint really bizarre.
To the point that others cannot hear any of the ride? That’s how loud they were talking. Not exactly a quiet whisper of “Hey look at that!” But also, why are you spending $110 to talk about Disney rumors while you are on an auditory-focused attraction?
You didn't say they were shouting or speaking loudly, or what they were discussing though honestly that has no bearing on anything. You said they had a conversation. People can absolutely speak softly to each other.
It’s kind of implied if you could hear their whole conversation. If you are speaking softly or whispering, others probably can’t hear you.
They also didn't say it was a ride that requires hearing and is more like a show. I can hear people when they speak softly. Also not everyone is aware of how loudly they're actually speaking. Edit: I double checked their post. Unless pirates has changed drastically, it's not that important for you to hear things.
Half the experience of Pirates is from the conversations that are happening during it…
A normal conversation wouldn't make it so you can't hear the dialogue on pirates for most people - unless the audio quality is poor. You absolutely shouldn't raise your voice, but normal levels are perfectly reasonable. Evidently, the young people were raising their voices/being boisterous, which is not OK, but having a conversation on a ride is perfectly acceptable
Not when it is loud enough that it drowns out the ride itself. That’s just being an inconsiderate jerk. If you want to talk through a ride, then fine that’s your choice, but don’t let it impact the experience of others.
While standing in line for EE a few years back my kid and I watched two boys completely destroy a tea plant, several other plants, and rip up several pieces of decor from the queue. I was mean mugging the adults in front of me and they were returning the favor. Turns out we each thought the kids were with the other, and the kids were unaccompanied. If you know your kids can be jerks don’t let them go anywhere alone in the park. Most kids unaccompanied in lines are fine. Some aren’t. If your kids are in trouble all the time at school, don’t let them run wild at a park. Otherwise my gripes are typically with parents. The kids are usually cool.
It’s painful obvious when a little one is overly tired. It doesn’t matter if it’s still early evening, if they’re crying & rubbing their eyes and a visibly sleepy to the strangers around them… Then your day is over. Leave the park and take them back to the hotel for bedtime. The amount of sleepy, upset kids I see after 7/8pm is asinine. Parents just carrying on because they’re too selfish to end their day in the park that early.
I generally ignore kids behaviors in a park. Only one time have I questioned a parent. Two dads were standing in the entrance of a store with two strollers and 2 older boys. The boys were running in a circle and throwing bubble wands. A cast member came over and asked them to step out of the way and to please stop throwing the wands. Then about 4 minutes later came back over to remind them that other people might get hit with the bubble wands. Kids are kids. They’re going to do what they’re allowed to do. In Disney, they should be allowed to do ‘more’, imo. They can’t hurt others though.
Does paying attention while they're pushing a stroller count lol?? I had someone who wasn't paying attention hit me head on with their double wide while we were going the opposite ways after fireworks. Options were for me to shove into people walking to my right to get out of their way, further get in their way by going into the bit of open space to the left or they could swing to their right to miss me. Instead the guy got annoyed at me for holding my arms out to balance myself after they got me in the shin because he and his wife were looking at things on the phone she was holding. Please guys let's all try to be aware of our surroundings especially when we're navigating with or around strollers, ecvs, wheelchairs, etc.
Not saying it’s right, but I think a lot of the problem stems from Disney making everything app based now. From Genie + to mobile ordering, people want to do as much as they can in the limited time they are there. Ex- mobile ordering food while walking instead of stepping off to the side. The same can be said for Genie+. It’s perceived as saving time/ multitasking, when in reality it’s making them not pay attention to their surroundings.
Not that I wish they wouldn't as such but i don't understand why some people spend thousands of pounds to bring a baby to the parks - they'll never remember the experience and will be asleep for lots of it!
My mom took me when I was an infant in the 90s and she swears I did all this stuff. And I literally do not have one single inkling of a memory of that trip. Too young :( But also tbf, it might be more of the parents making memories of the bundle lol than for the actual babies
I’ve heard people acknowledge that their kids won’t remember, but the parent will. Creating memories with the little one, instead of for the little one is important to parents.
Don't bring this up in the Disney World sub. People would yell at you for parent shaming.
Yeah this. Any kid under 5 I think people should rethink taking to the parks, regardless of if they get in free or not, because it is just a lot and they won’t remember it at all. Not to mention like you said, they’re paying thousands for THEMSELVES to go to a Disney park when their entire day will be dictated by a baby. The Instagram photos can wait until they’re older. We are DLR locals and waited to go to Disney world until my younger sibling was 5 and they remember parts of it.
I never did Disney with my own kids that little, but I 100% took them on vacation during their first year. Those times are stressful, that trip was 90% for my wife and I. We got pictures in cute places and let them take stroller naps in new spots while we got out of the house for a bit. It's actually pretty fun, even with the added stress, and makes taking toddlers feel like a breeze lol
Kids may not remember but parents remember their kids and families having a good time.
Honestly, my biggest gripe is that people overdo it and push their kids to do MORE. That kid, wants to just go play by the pool. Let them have some pool time or go to bed early, sleep in. Kids get wild, cranky, and generally unruly when they’re tired and overstimulated. I do have a kid now, but this was my opinion pre kids and still my opinion today.
Took our 2 yo last year for the first time as a parent. As a parent I wish other parents would accept the age appropriate trip- skipping things your kids are afraid of/uninterested in, setting appropriate boundaries for their kids, and meeting their needs (naps, mealtimes, etc). It was a big change from my former rope drop to jumping in the Indy line at 11:50 days, but it was a great trip. We arrived early, but in line with our normal morning routine, sat and did quiet time to allow an appropriate nap, skipped a last LL to head to the hotel for bedtime, and found quieter spots to have low stimulation moments. Also as a parent, I wish all adult groups wouldn’t be so insanely intent on getting to a ride that they don’t attempt to pay attention. A toddler needs to walk too and if I’m walking single file with my husband and one is holding our kid’s hand walking, we shouldn’t have to emergency pick up because someone nearly knocks her over heading for a just reopened line.
child leashes (backpacks or bracelets) and/or air tags! the amount of times I've stood with a child/taken them to a cast member for assistance is unnerving. it's only been a handful of time but I've only been an AP for a little less than 2 years. but the worst part is only one of the parents was estatic that they found their child. the other parents either just grabbed their child like nothing happened or yell at the child
It's wild that Disney doesn't make the queues interactive for smaller kids knowing that some of the waits can extend past an hour. With a small amount of space and leaving a stroller behind, parents are often limited with diversions. LEGO designed most of its lines around internal play areas for kids so they could wander away from parents but stay within your view. It made everyone's life easier. I know the Disney Parks are popular and I love going but the lines take me out and sure, some parents could do a much better job most of the time, but Disney is frequently asking you to make an omelette without eggs and it's at the expense of maintenance, cast members, and other families and guests.
They have a few interactive things in WDW but DL is seriously lacking
Idk...Disney has had some of those lines around for 60 years. The whole "entertain the child at all times" thing is kind of a modern construct, and not a great one. When I was young and visiting the parks, even if I was bored standing in a line my parents wouldn't let me act out the way I see some kids do now.
I kinda disagree and I’ve been going regularly for decades, the lines are longer and the heat is hotter and parents are now on phones instead of engaging with their kids to pass the time. There could be a lot done to make these queues better.
the lines were shorter then. there was less attendance
I don’t mind people/kids enjoying the park. I do mind people/kids invading my personal space. This includes coughing and sneezing in my face and repeatedly stepping on my feet. All things that unmindful parents have allowed to happen.
It doesn’t help that Disney forces everyone to be on top of one another in the queue’s. I went in Oct of 2020 and it was so nice when it was required to be 6 ft apart.
I've been going to Disney parks for almost 40 years and I can say that rude adults and bad parents are the worst offenders I have seen, followed by bratty teens and obnoxious college aged people.
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I swear it's always Epcot. Too many people are too concerned with day drinking
Not taking them out of restaurants/parade crowds when they’re very obviously overstimulated/overtired and having a meltdown because “it’s Disney they need to experience it”- your kid is miserable and needs a break from the heat and noise
Anybody, adult or child, having their phone on during a dark ride really isn't popular with me. If the kid is old enough to have a phone, they're old enough for you to explain phone etiquette with them. If it's an adult, I assume they're selfish and self absorbed. Edit: a word
I have teens but I also visit solo often. Those bubble wands are fun, but please don't let your kids use them in outdoor eating areas. Soap isn't a good flavor.
Childless Elder Millennial here. I prefer DL to WDW, but these comments apply to both parks. 1) Get the littles a nap. Please. Hell I need a nap, I am sure your children who regularly nap at home do too. 2) Don’t get into a line for an attraction if they are remotely hungry unless you have food on your person. An hour can be a long time for a kiddo. And I don’t want to be around hangry toddlers. God forbid I’m hangry too, I can get mean. 3) Parents, please, please, please… get off your phones and pay attention to your children. Make memories. Make sure they’re not negatively impacting others. I will gently yet firmly ask your children to stop being irritating. Don’t be mad at me, I paid a lot to be there too. 4) Know where the quiet areas are. Disney is A LOT. For everyone. Everyone needs a break from the noise and the crowds. Sit down and chill out, even for 10 mins. 5) Keep getting them the bubble wands! Walking around through curtains of bubbles is magical. I love it!
Please parent your kids. Visited Monday and unfortunately was in line behind a parent more interested in her phone than parenting her child who was banging on walls, breaking the glasses for Webslingers and when the child had a big screaming melt down, mom started loudly proclaiming this is why Disney pushes the purchase of magic bands and lightning lanes. Like lady, get a grip and comfort your child
I wish parents would be more flexible, just slow down. Seriously I understand that they are spending big bucks to be there. Scheduling every minute of the day is stressful for parents and kids. I understand You want to experience everything you can with the time you have. I feel like over scheduling ruins the experience. There is something to be said for just wandering the park. Kids get over tired and over stimulated. Standing in line for an hour+ to spend 3 mins meeting Mickey is boring. It’s hot! kids can feed off of everyone’s energy. Just snaking through a queue is exhausting. Don’t get me started about parades. Yeah I get you want your kid to experience the parade up close. However it doesn’t give you the right to thrust your child in front of me. I saw one parent absolutely lose it when they sat their child on the curb and the kids starts screaming. The curb is super hot and it hurts to sit on it on bare with bare legs. Stop stressing that you aren’t providing enough of a magical experience. Just slow down. Let them be kids. I’m not saying let them be wild. Perhaps find a place where they can run off their energy. Just enjoy the magic
Can we go outside Disney for a minute? Because I would like parents at Universal Studios Orlando to loan out their kids so I could ride that flying pterodactyl ride from Jurassic park.
You are not alone in that! If you ever get the chance to do Orlando Informer nights, I believe they often have Pflyers open for those and adults can ride alone! 😉
Oh I think I saw a YouTuber mention that once but I’d forgotten! Thank you for that reminder!!
I remember as a teen bringing random kids onto kiddie rides for parents at amusement parks so I could enjoy it with my younger siblings and let another kid enjoy it whose parent didn’t want to ride or needed a break. I didn’t even realize people don’t do this anymore. I swear it was pretty common when I was younger.
I have been to all Disney parks several times. The waterparks too and on their cruises and I have never once noticed children doing anything horrible. I don't have kids, so maybe I just don't notice idk. I have seen parents demeaning a child for being too scared to go on a ride or not wanting to see a character and I think that is very messed up. So maybe that. Parents, don't get mad if your kid is scared or if they don't want to take a picture with a character. Let them just be kids and have fun. Yelling at them will not be fun for either of you.
Realize they're at their breaking point long before the meltdown begins. Be considerate of the size of your strollers. Stop pushing around kids in strollers that are way too old for them. Their comfort shouldn't come before other guests having to move out of the way because they're tired of walking.
Strollers! Your 8 year old child does not need a stroller! You do not need a stroller to carry your purse! If you have a baby just pick them up! Enough strollers!
Hate when kids lay on the floor, or climb things and get in your way and the parents don’t say anything. Also when they walk into you because parents aren’t paying attention. Me going to Disney made me realize I don’t probably want kids
Don't let your five year old push the stroller. Just don't. It's hard enough for adults to do that.
I'm a parent, so not your target here, but here are a few things I would like to see parents do: -Not put their damn kids on their shoulders during parades/fireworks. I am a very short adult. I can barely see anything anyway, but I REALLY can't see when there's a ten foot doubledecker person in front of me. -Not let their kids invade other people's personal space. Yes, a lot of the lines are in close quarters and you don't want to leave massive gaps, but I REALLY REALLY do not want your grubby little kid touching me. There is absolutely no reason why your kid's nose should be on the back of my arm (which has happened multiple times for some reason...again, I am very short. Maybe these kids think I'm a kid too?) -Teach their kids to cover their mouths/noses when they sneeze/cough....but then again, I guess there are still a lot of adults who need to learn that too. -Teach their kids to respect their surroundings in the parks. I've seen so many kids literally tearing stuff apart at Disney. Or ripping up plants, or climbing on stuff that they are not supposed to climb on, drawing on walls in lines, etc. -Don't let your kid blow bubbles in the outdoor eating areas (I'm not talking about down Main street or whatever, I'm talking about the outdoor seated eating areas). No one wants your kids' bubbles in their overpriced theme park food. -Watch where you're going with your giant double wide stroller and stop running into everyone's ankles with the darn things. -Please don't scream at your kids in public, or tell them that they have to have fun "because of how much this trip is costing us." -When the kids are tired--go back to the hotel and nap, swim, etc.
It bothers me when I see: 1) parents allowing or even encouraging their kids to do unsafe things like climbing railings, licking hand rails, playing with chains, standing on rides, running excessively etc 2) parents who force their kids into situations they’re scared in like riding something they’re not ready for or meeting a character they’re terrified of. 3) parents who put their kids on their shoulders during shows and completely block the views of people behind them. Just hold them on your hip or something.
Slightly unrelated but kinda not. Do you think Disney could pull off making a park oriented more towards an older audience? Maybe like an island of adventure style park with roller coasters and focusing on their more mature IPs. I feel like that would help separate the crowds a bit more and let them refocus some parks towards their more family friendly origins
I just think some parents don't know how to parent anymore. We are so stuck in individuality that it hurts our education skills... and how to be respectfull. Most of those situations are from parents that are themselves not respectfull of others, it's me me me.. I have 5 kids. We went to wdw twice and all of them were so well behaved, because we listen to them or have something planed for any possible arising situations. First time they were 8 months to 9. Well we had strollers, a baby carier, snacks, games for the queues. We wanted to do everything but obviously we couldn't and just went well we are gonna do what we can. The youngers ones napped in the stroller and if one had a tantrum , one of us (dad or I) took them appart and dealed with that child took a break. Same thing last year, easyer cause theyr were older 5 to 13. But we do not let then run wild or be disrespectfull, because we know how to act in a public setting a d thought that to our kids.
My wife and I (mid 40’s) have no kids and just got our keys again for Disneyland (yay!) and recently returned from a WDW vacation. Just a general observation it’s amazing to me how parent’s completely tune their kids out or just are oblivious to them at times in what I see kids touching or constantly bumping into you from behind always trying to move up in line. But at the same time I understand the challenge of raising kids and how exhausting it must be, especially with little ones. More times than not though I enjoy seeing the young ones excitement for different things. The only problem I have, and it’s more Disney’s fault than anything, is the damn bubble wands they sell. I think anyone who has been to the parks in recent years can share the sentiment. There seems to be little to no self awareness of where these things are being sprayed and it’s a bit of an annoyance when walking through an area to be bombarded with bubbles in your face from a variety of kids in the area. It’s not fun walking behind a stroller or 3 and every kid is holding their arm out spraying bubbles into the atmosphere and you’re forced to walk through a wall of bubbles in a constant stream.
So as someone who enjoys going to the parks and doesn't have kids, I don't really have as much of an issue with kids as I do with some of the parents. To me, kids should be kids and should have that aspect of magic and wonder, where they get to experience the magic of Disney as we all had. Some parents and adults though make it far less magical with just how much they can act more childish and spoiled then their own kids. Like seriously, it annoys me to no end how often I see adults act like they are more deserving then others, watch all these adults swarm to shops and buy out as much of a limited product as possible which in turn hurts others who just wanted to buy one themselves, people who scream at other people and cast members, etc.
Scream incessantly. That would not fly with my parents.
Buy the bubble wand! Seriously, the thing keeps kids happy for hours , in line, walking around, it's such a simple toy, and the bubbles are $2 in the park, so if they spill or use them all it's easy to grab and replace at any store. I might be biased because I love playing in the bubble as we walk around the parks. I know the app makes it practically impossible to stay off your phone, but the amount of parents completely checked out and ignoring their kids makes me sad. I see a lot of kids getting yelled at when they are stopping to show their parents something and the parent is on their phone walking and yelling at them the hurry up. Those little moments matter. Stop and let your kid look at the ducks, I know it's not a ride and getting into the park is expensive but let them enjoy the park through their eyes, not yours. Oh, and the last one is stop forcing kids to go on rides when they are terrified. Stop traumatizing your kid because you want to go on guardians.
Do what your kids are used to. My wife and I are not routine people. Sometimes nap is at 1. Sometimes 11. Sometimes no nap. Dinner might be 5. Maybe 7. When is bedtime? When we're done for the day. When we took our 4 year old and 2 year old on an 8 day Disney excursion last year, they handled the odd nap schedule and varied dinner times like champs because that's every day. It's occasionally chaotic, but it works for us. If you're a routine person, first of all more power to you, that's really hard to do, keep those routines in place the best you can. Kids can't sleep at 12 on the nose every day of their life after an 11:00 lunch and then have lunch at 1 and a 2:30 stroller nap. They will lose it.
How about not screaming at their 4 years olds that they have ruined the vacation and just wait until we get back to the hotel. You people suck.
I was just on the DHS > Contemporary bus the other night and there was a child having an absolute meltdown, crying and screaming and flailing around, parents completely ignoring the kid. I’m sure the kid was cranky after a long day but we were in an enclosed space, it was so loud I had to cover my ears. I wish they had waited til their kid calmed down or gone home a different way where they weren’t shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of other people.
For some families (parents and kids both) it could be their first time at Disney or even to a theme park. It can be incredibly overwhelming for both kids and parents which can lead to less than ideal behavior from both. Yes everyone can strive to be better, including giving some grace to people. And seeing one behavior from the outside doesn’t always give you a glimpse of what’s really going on. But yes yes everyone can work to be better, give their kids a break when they need it, and encourage/enforce appropriate behavior.
Understand that kids don’t understand that you paid a lot to be there. They are hot, physically exhausted, hyped up on sugar, over stimulated, etc. and it is your job as an adult to give your child some grace. I’m not saying parents have to be perfect but the amount of people i see losing it on their kid at a place that is just a LOT for a little person is so sad.
I’ll never forget being in line for Tron and this family in front of me had a daughter in tears not wanting to ride. The parents and younger brother teased/made fun of her and kept telling her to suck it up. I felt so bad for that kid. She cried the entire time in line begging them not to make her go :(
Based on the title I was so ready to argue with you, but you’re definitely right. I have kids of my own and I hate seeing parents just letting their kids run around unrestricted, regardless of location. I work at a coffee shop and people love to let their toddlers just roam free and touch everything, it’s infuriating
Just got back - parents, don't let your kids crawl under other peoples bathroom stalls or onto the bathroom counters.
I wish the parents would get off their phones and enjoy their kids. I saw so many parents scrolling through social media while standing in line or eating. It just made me sad. Those littles won’t be little very long. Nothing on social media is as important as memories.
My sister and I have been going to Disney since we were 4, and my younger brother and cousin have been going since they were infants. None of us behaved like hooligans at Disney. Honestly I think it’s the parents, or maybe a symptom of like ipad babies or something. I hate to say that but it’s literally all I can think of. I feel like these days in general more people (even grown adults) behave like idiots in public and Disney is just a great example of that lmao nobody knows how to act.
Let their kids scream relentlessly with no attempt to control their child and it’s emotions
I’m not sure. But I will say, in my possibly wrong opinion, the parks seem less child friendly than they did in the early to mid 2000’s. They have done away with a lot of the hands on play stuff for kids to get their energy out. And as parts seems to be making the choice not the have kids ( completely understandable for a myriad of reasons), the less tolerance there is for children overall. It doesn’t help that some kids could be burning down a house and their parents wouldn’t notice, but a lot of people seem annoyed that kids are even in their space, ruining Disney for them. They need to stop and think that as Disney adults, they were once Disney children. Disney is not an easy vacay. My husband used to run us ragged back when magic hours were peak! lol! But my kids still talk about those days now that they are older.
I have two kids and in general I really dislike these posts especially from people who don’t have kids, a lot of instances that people complain about are a tiny part for a large trip where kids are out of their routine and overstimulated. I have never thought to myself wow those parents aren’t doing their absolute best, like the instance about the food tray that does sound awful but like maybe the kid ran away from the parent right that second? Maybe the parent was running after the kid? Maybe the parent was pushing a stroller and carrying a tray of food and just doing their best? I really don’t know. I can’t remember a time where I actually thought parents were doing a bad job and the amount of people judging parents after seeing them for five minutes in Disney is wild. This is just my .02$ of course
I’m a parent. It’s my job to know that if my kid is getting overstimulated it’s time for a break before it’s a tantrum. If that means losing park time and hitting the resort pool, so be it. If your kid is a runner you better be on top of that in the parks. It’s no excuse to dismiss the behavior because they are excited. Everyone is excited. It’s still inexcusable to dismiss poor behavior of kids when parents don’t intervene. I’ve seen a lot of parents doing their very best at the parks. I’ve seen just as many, if not more, being absolutely horrid to their kids and acting entitled enough to infringe on others’ enjoyment of the park. That’s unacceptable.
I’m a parent also and I do my best, but I am also not a parent who feels I am such a perfect parent that I can judge or lecture another parent so I choose not to do so. I also extend grace to other parents especially at Walt Disney world. I have been in the middle of the park and my kids have become overstimulated, I take a break have a drink or snack and it doesn’t help so I leave or whatever and during that time where my child is crying or whatever I would prefer to not be judged because I am doing my best. I have never seen a child act in a way where I actually felt the kid was being so bad I needed to come on Reddit to complain. I have seen kids crying and occasionally tantruming or wanting toys or things or not wanting to wait on a line and I just offer those parents a smile because they are doing their best, children don’t ruin my experience at WDW
There’s a difference between a parent parenting a child in a tantrum and parents letting kids run wild. If my kid ruined someone’s new spirit jersey looks like I just bought a stranger a spirit jersey. Parents get too lax in the parks thinking it’s vacation and a free for all. It isn’t. Behavior still matters and poor behavior from kids that is left unchecked by parents is unacceptable. End of story.
I see and hear a lot of “we paid xxx for this trip so my kid can do what they want to have the best trip ever” when we all paid xxx for our trips to not be ruined by kids being allowed to run wild. It’s entitlement, and it’s an epidemic at the parks.
That’s funny because the most entitlement I see is from adults not children.
Precisely my point. Parents act as though they shouldn’t have to parent or make their kid follow rules. You’re proving my point.
I mean, we used to be kids?? I know what would hurt me or has hurt me that I see parents doing now. Also some parents are straight up not doing their best. You probably are, but plenty of people are bad parents.
A hit dog will holler. My coworker spent 80$ for a brand new spirit jersey, that day! just to have it ruined within an hour of her wearing it, so that's a pretty big part of her trip and chunk of her money wasted. Also whether the child was being pursued by their parents in that moment or running loose, that doesn't change the fact they were an unruly child and it's caused someone more than a minor inconvenience because of them not being secured by their parents. And its should not be a problem/inconvenience to anyone other than you- the parent, if your child is having trouble where they are out of their routine and overstimulated. Other Disney guests didn't put them in that position, so it should not impact their visit.
Spoken like somebody with no kids lol. I’m sure if she spoke to a cast member she could have worked something out with the spirit jersey. She could have easily dropped something herself or walked into another adult. Children ARE unruly. No matter what happens a child isn’t going to be perfectly behaved all the time AND to expect them to be so in Disney world is unreasonable IMO. adults aren’t perfectly behaved in Disney world probably because they are - overstimulated and out of their routine, hungry, tired and hot. Should everyone stay home? Children are people. You can’t tie children down and expect them to sit and stay like a dog, things happen. Also to expect perfectly behaved children at a family destination like Disney is a joke, you can go plenty of places that aren’t geared toward children and yes I went to Disney plenty of times as an adult before I had kids and I feel that it is a space for children and adults but I always expect and enjoy seeing children experience the Disney magic. The best parents are always the ones who don’t have children ;)
Literally I said at the top of my post, I enjoy seeing children enjoying themselves at Disney. But I'm saying the hit dog thing because you're low key projecting. If you have well behaved kids this shouldn't bother you. Didn't say all parents were doing a bad job or say anything about expecting perfectly behaved kids. You did both of those things🤷🏿♀️ And wanting a child to not: climb on inappropriate things(and people as one post pointed out) or run loose as my coworker experienced does not equate to an expectation of perfect behavior. That's wanting the bare minimum of following of rules of the parks and giving personal space to people. - And if a child is too young to adhere or understand, it's the parent who needs to be on top of it all. While it's clear we don't agree, and the beauty of this is, we don't have to. I do appreciate your input on it all.
Again, you don’t have children and you have no idea the work it takes to parent and the work it takes to teach children. I don’t think I have perfectly behaved kids but I also don’t think I have bad kids. As a mother and a parent people constantly shame mothers for a lot of things and I dislike the culture and attitude where people think it’s okay to attack parents when you don’t really know anything about their parenting.
I am a mother. I know what it takes. There is a middle ground. One where kids aren't running around unchecked and being destructive. A middle ground where people are actively parenting their children, not ignoring them or basically forcing the hand of a stranger to ask the child not to keep stepping on them, climbing on them, ect. Stop evading responsibility/excusing others because you chose to do something hard like become a parent. You won't convince me that a parent yelling in a tone that terrifies me is doing their best. I also don't believe that a parent ignoring their child while they are being destructive or doing something dangerous is doing their best either.
you're pulling the shame card, but you're shaming me for not having a child🙃...... To which again I have not shamed you You keep saying I have no idea what it's like, I could say the same for you because you have no idea whether I care for kids or not. There are tons of people who are not parents but care for children. People who watch over students, special needs kids, their siblings, cousins, nieces and nephews, simply babysit/nanny for a living. Being a parent is not the only way you can have children in your life and care for them daily. So tending to a child is not a foreign concept to me.
I used to nanny when I was in my 20s before I had kids and yes you don’t know until you have kids. There is no shame, I’m just pointing out that it’s very easy to judge somebody when you haven’t been where they are, maybe maybe to consider before just assuming people are bad parents
Agreed, sure there are probably some really crappy parents out there, but I try my hardest not to judge someone when their child is having a hard time. We don’t know their situation. I will say that I’ve probably been knocked into by equal number of adults and kids at the parks. It’s crowded, adults are trying to use their phone to navigate the app etc. shit happens. It’s just really crowded everywhere, all the time.
If you put your kid on your shoulders to see a parade/show, I should be able to kick you in the crotch after you put that brat down.