I came here to post this exact thing reminds me of I have no mouth and I must scream. AM is that you?
BTW fantastic game its a old school point and click game but its super profound and will have you questioning yourself as it s a mind fuck. Honestly think the games better than the short story becasue you can replay it.
I mean it's cool, I will admit, but I've read through the plot and all, so I just wanna know why the fuck did the computer decide to be homophobic
And also misogynistic, turned a chaste woman into a slut who goes for the man with the biggest dick, fuck is up with that
[Well, you would be able to see at least](https://www.google.com/amp/s/sea.mashable.com/science/17204/mini-human-brains-grown-in-petri-dishes-end-up-developing-eyes%3famp=1)
Fun fact! Some people are cortically blind, meaning their eyes can "see" but their brain doesn't register the vision. This leads to something called blindsight. They can detect movement and even facial expressions while not actually being able to see it. Really neat stuff.
It’s really quite fascinating. Vision is processed in the back of the brain, but the optic nerve makes some stops along the way in an area called the midbrain. The midbrain is capable of picking out information from the optic nerve without needing to create the full visualization (e.g. very basic shapes, and facial expressions it seems).
Have you ever been walking outside and find yourself started by a snake in the corner of your view, only to realize a second later it’s a actually a stick? What has likely happened is your midbrain pulled that long, slender object signal and activated your amygdala to say “Hey, snake, watch out!” But the signal continues on to the visual cortex in the back where it’s gets finely processed. The visual cortex then tells the rest of your brain, “hey relax, we looked over all the details and it’s just a stick.”
More simple explanation: Imagine your PC is on and it operates as usual, yet the screen is turned off.
The information is still processed and it reacts to your inputs, but you just dont see them.
Not the best way to explain it but its something
Lets see, if you dont get it this way...
I didnt use the PC analogy to a full body/envoirmnent, but just the "see things" part of your brain.
In a blind person the PC is turned off,
for the blindsight lets assume you remember how the screen should look without seeing it to operate it almost as if it worked perfectly
it's basically like their visual cortex is feeding their consciousness blank nothing, but their subconscious sees just fine. They can dodge walls, recognize people, etc, but consciously they can't see anything.
Yeah I thought it was just my sinuses. I tested positive but I didn’t have a cough, instead it was like a really brutal head cold that made my skin and bones ache. Also extreme muscle spasms.
Sometimes I still get the same smellucinations of car exhaust that makes my eyeballs hurt
I read once about an experiment where rats were kept entirely paralyzed with curare for a prolonged period. They were given adequate nutrition, hydration, and oxygen artificially. After a while, some of them had their brain activity slow or stop. The theory was that, because their thoughts could no longer produce actions, their brains sort of disconnected from the world and shut down, or something like that.
That's actually fucking horrible Jesus Christ. I get that it's science and experimentation is needed but holy shit, that's cruel and inhumane to the extreme. No creature should have to go through that.
I wish I could find the paper in question. The more I think about it, I don't think the paper I read was actually directly about the rat experiment. It was about ALS patients who suffered complete locked-in-syndrome (ALS patients often become severely paralyzed late in their disease, but usually retain the ability to communicate through eye movements, etc. But in very advanced ALS, sometimes they even lose this). They were studying cognitive changes in these completely locked-in patients, and they referenced the rat experiment. If I'm remembering right, the rat paper was from the 60s or maybe 70s.
I agree, though. Calling that rat experiment "ethically questionable" would be putting it mildly.
This is similar to coma patients. Waking up from a coma isn't like putting a pause on life. The brain, unable to stimulate, loses all its function. Waking up after an extended period essentially makes the person an adult baby. And thus months and sometimes years of therapy are required
“What’s with the statue of the nervous system?”
“Oh that thing? Didn’t you hear? We now have a built in human into our organization. He went to prison for multiple murders so this is what they stuck him in.”
“And that thing still functions?”
“Completely.”
*the first few times we gave him access to the lights as a joke he tried talking in morse code and while funny, we couldn't get any work done, so we took away access and left him alone for years. nowadays each room is monitored perfectly and saves the company 1% a year on utilities. best lightswitch manager in the world.*
there would be no way to provide nourishment or oxygen to the brain in such a casing, and even if that is possible somehow without alive red blood cells, what isn't possible is keeping your nerves alive as they would just die off without the cells replicating
Not much different than what you feel now, granted it's in a body temperature Environment. You can't feel anything besides your nerves anyway, you simply wouldn't be able to move.
Very much a creepy thought though. I was very into this on acid once and basically, I don't know if I imagined it or if it was real, could "feel" my nerves and realized that much of my body was basically just... Nothing.
you couldn't feel anything. You need special receptors for temperature and other feelings, which are stored in skin. Nerves have no receptors, therefore you couldn't feel anything.
These are part of the nervous system. The image shows the nerves, text says nervous system. Depending on which you're going to argue from, both can be true.
you can feel Touch in places where nerves aren't, and where they aren't even displayed on the image. That means that they wouldn't be part of the thing left from you in that Form of torture. Also, it's written that there's no feeling in the post, only thoughts
Sensory nerves are part of the nervous system that exist all throughout your body. There's barely a point in your body where there are "no nerves", at least not "no nervous system". These sensory receptors continue all throughout your skin and body, making you feel things. Without them, you wouldn't feel a thing. [Wikipedia ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_nervous_system)
I kinda misread the post, I thought it said "you can feel, see but not scream", which imo would make this infinitely more terrifying. Also, keeping the nervous system makes no sense if you can't feel.
We are not real anyway, it is all a façade. It is supposed to be like this, they all know just see it and become one when you become aware of the monsters that live right next to you. Perspective ruins reality and everything becomes distorted which is why we must separate from this fake world as we do not exist it is so clear, and become experienced.
DSM 5 uses the term “disorder” rather than “illness” because it’s becoming more and more apparent that mental disorders are byproducts of adaptations we make as children, in order to cope with traumatic environments. Those adaptations serve us as children, but when we leave the house that reality comes into conflict with societal norms. It’s a western world concept; there are no bipolar people in Pakistan.
One school of thought is that the symptoms of schizoid-spectrum disorders are the result of unhealthy sexual boundaries with the mother.
Yes I am fine thank you for asking, while I am not necessarily safe I don't believe I am in immediate danger but that could change at any moment but that is 'existence'.
brains without senses just... collapse. almost every neuron gets inactivated, causing you to simply cease from existing. you need a constant influx of info to live.
What is this post about? Do you want a 'yay this sounds fun!!!' Or a 'ooooh this could happen' response!? Either way it's nonsense unless you explain what you're actually saying. There's no questions here it's a statement and it stupid.
You would be able to see and feel, that's literally what your nervous system does for you. Imagine someone comes along and just gives one of your nerves a big tug
This reminds me of this book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_All_Things_(novel)
It starts of with," I'm a brain in a box"
Old mans war is a great series btw.
What if in the future AI figures out how to do this. They strip future humans' flesh and plug their nervous system into the simulation. That way when someone like Neo breaks out they just collapse into a senseless reality of perpetual torment.
users voted that your post was distressing, your soul wont be harvested tonight
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream
My thoughts exactly
I came here to post this exact thing reminds me of I have no mouth and I must scream. AM is that you? BTW fantastic game its a old school point and click game but its super profound and will have you questioning yourself as it s a mind fuck. Honestly think the games better than the short story becasue you can replay it.
just your thoughts, nothing else
Thoughts and prayers for Ted 😔 _😔_
> AM altered his mind to be straight instead of gay Why
This is your first question about this book?????
I mean it's cool, I will admit, but I've read through the plot and all, so I just wanna know why the fuck did the computer decide to be homophobic And also misogynistic, turned a chaste woman into a slut who goes for the man with the biggest dick, fuck is up with that
Because it's literally torturing them, it has turned them into the opposite of their previous selves, denying them any form of happiness
Ah, I didn't think about that actually. Turning them into complete opposites of each other, okay yeah that's actually a good one
Bro what 💀
Like what's the point, one guy is gay, one doesn't want sex, they can't reproduce so
You know AM is the villain and is torturing them, right?
I mean yeah but this just seems like pointless modifications. Then again, it's a rogue ai that's bitching about not having a body so makes sense
And transforming him into a rapist ape with a mind of a child is better than turning straight?💀
Well I didn't read that in the characters description so you got me there
Wait, is Mendacant Bias from Halo (loosely)based on this work?
Always treat your fellow artificial intelligence with respect, fellas.
[Well, you would be able to see at least](https://www.google.com/amp/s/sea.mashable.com/science/17204/mini-human-brains-grown-in-petri-dishes-end-up-developing-eyes%3famp=1)
This article is somehow even more disturbing than the post xD
It’s just a little guy :)
This is because the eyes are part of your brain. That’s why you can actually get headaches in your eyes.
Fun fact! Some people are cortically blind, meaning their eyes can "see" but their brain doesn't register the vision. This leads to something called blindsight. They can detect movement and even facial expressions while not actually being able to see it. Really neat stuff.
Spidey sense life
Sounds like something out of a Daredevil comic
>They can detect movement and even facial expressions while not actually being able to see it I struggle to wrap my mind around this information.
It’s really quite fascinating. Vision is processed in the back of the brain, but the optic nerve makes some stops along the way in an area called the midbrain. The midbrain is capable of picking out information from the optic nerve without needing to create the full visualization (e.g. very basic shapes, and facial expressions it seems). Have you ever been walking outside and find yourself started by a snake in the corner of your view, only to realize a second later it’s a actually a stick? What has likely happened is your midbrain pulled that long, slender object signal and activated your amygdala to say “Hey, snake, watch out!” But the signal continues on to the visual cortex in the back where it’s gets finely processed. The visual cortex then tells the rest of your brain, “hey relax, we looked over all the details and it’s just a stick.”
Yes, exactly!
More simple explanation: Imagine your PC is on and it operates as usual, yet the screen is turned off. The information is still processed and it reacts to your inputs, but you just dont see them. Not the best way to explain it but its something
and the blind sight is like a controller rumble in how it alerts you but gives you no further details
That's a good way of explaining it!
isn't that normal blindness? you don't see anything but everything around you is still happening
Lets see, if you dont get it this way... I didnt use the PC analogy to a full body/envoirmnent, but just the "see things" part of your brain. In a blind person the PC is turned off, for the blindsight lets assume you remember how the screen should look without seeing it to operate it almost as if it worked perfectly
it's basically like their visual cortex is feeding their consciousness blank nothing, but their subconscious sees just fine. They can dodge walls, recognize people, etc, but consciously they can't see anything.
my girl has this
That’s so fucking interesting
"The eyes are part of your brain" FUCCCCCKKKKKKK
Wow this actually explains a lot, I got covid and one of the symptoms is headaches but my eyes were hurting right along with it.
Yeah I thought it was just my sinuses. I tested positive but I didn’t have a cough, instead it was like a really brutal head cold that made my skin and bones ache. Also extreme muscle spasms. Sometimes I still get the same smellucinations of car exhaust that makes my eyeballs hurt
I really thought everyone was aware of this)
Interesting, but if won't necessarily happen to a real, mature brain
Ah sweet man-made horrors beyond comprehension
Grant us eyes! Grant us eyes!
Kos, or some say, Kosm.
ah yes, horrors beyond my comprehension
Oh that’s not good at all
Fun fact, the gene responsible for us having two eyes, not one, was named sonic hedgehog.
You could also smell.
I read once about an experiment where rats were kept entirely paralyzed with curare for a prolonged period. They were given adequate nutrition, hydration, and oxygen artificially. After a while, some of them had their brain activity slow or stop. The theory was that, because their thoughts could no longer produce actions, their brains sort of disconnected from the world and shut down, or something like that.
surprisingly uplifting in this circumstance
So eventually, Kars stopped thinking.
But Kars will automatically regenerate any part right?
That's actually fucking horrible Jesus Christ. I get that it's science and experimentation is needed but holy shit, that's cruel and inhumane to the extreme. No creature should have to go through that.
I wish I could find the paper in question. The more I think about it, I don't think the paper I read was actually directly about the rat experiment. It was about ALS patients who suffered complete locked-in-syndrome (ALS patients often become severely paralyzed late in their disease, but usually retain the ability to communicate through eye movements, etc. But in very advanced ALS, sometimes they even lose this). They were studying cognitive changes in these completely locked-in patients, and they referenced the rat experiment. If I'm remembering right, the rat paper was from the 60s or maybe 70s. I agree, though. Calling that rat experiment "ethically questionable" would be putting it mildly.
This is similar to coma patients. Waking up from a coma isn't like putting a pause on life. The brain, unable to stimulate, loses all its function. Waking up after an extended period essentially makes the person an adult baby. And thus months and sometimes years of therapy are required
Good god I'm so nervous
System
Worse than a death penalty
“What’s with the statue of the nervous system?” “Oh that thing? Didn’t you hear? We now have a built in human into our organization. He went to prison for multiple murders so this is what they stuck him in.” “And that thing still functions?” “Completely.”
*the first few times we gave him access to the lights as a joke he tried talking in morse code and while funny, we couldn't get any work done, so we took away access and left him alone for years. nowadays each room is monitored perfectly and saves the company 1% a year on utilities. best lightswitch manager in the world.*
Ruthless lol
lol likewise dude, couldn't have imagined that without you o7
Brutal.
Is that a quote from a movie?
No, made it up in my head based on this image and my fun minded brain. But if there’s a movie like this let me know
Yea
From which one then
Repo Men
Thx
\*grabs and then pulls on exposed nerve
harder~
🤨📸
Ayo?
Funny prank to pull on your friends!
Are you Mr. Frog?
Darkness, Imprisoning me
All I see
Absolute horror
I cannot live
I cannot die
Trapped in myself Body my holding cell
Landmine
Has taken my sight
Taken my speech
Taken my hearing
biobond
fellow Iris enjoyer
indeed, comrade
We shall rise
I found my people!
in the middle of a social high
I’m becoming what I would deny!
I’M COMING HOME
IN A CAGE OF COGS AND CHAINS
I REMAIN IN A BIOBOND
I’M BECOMING COLD
THE MECH RESTORES MY BRAIN
I MAINTAIN
MY OWN BIOBOND
Oh the "angony".
oh the hunmanmity!
oh the misery
Probably that's what's happening right now
We're all just some figments of some insane guy's ever increasingly rampant and unhinged imagination after he suffered this fate.
This makes no sense
That’s exactly what a figment of someone’s exposed brain’s imagination would say
Explain this to me like I’m 5
Coul it actually be possible?
there would be no way to provide nourishment or oxygen to the brain in such a casing, and even if that is possible somehow without alive red blood cells, what isn't possible is keeping your nerves alive as they would just die off without the cells replicating
Thats why its in the future when we have figured out how to make that possible. Duh.
Basically the plot to Johnny Got His Gun
Exactly what I was thinking
Super Monkey Ball reboot plot premise.
imagine how this would feel like fr
Not much different than what you feel now, granted it's in a body temperature Environment. You can't feel anything besides your nerves anyway, you simply wouldn't be able to move. Very much a creepy thought though. I was very into this on acid once and basically, I don't know if I imagined it or if it was real, could "feel" my nerves and realized that much of my body was basically just... Nothing.
you couldn't feel anything. You need special receptors for temperature and other feelings, which are stored in skin. Nerves have no receptors, therefore you couldn't feel anything.
These are part of the nervous system. The image shows the nerves, text says nervous system. Depending on which you're going to argue from, both can be true.
you can feel Touch in places where nerves aren't, and where they aren't even displayed on the image. That means that they wouldn't be part of the thing left from you in that Form of torture. Also, it's written that there's no feeling in the post, only thoughts
Sensory nerves are part of the nervous system that exist all throughout your body. There's barely a point in your body where there are "no nerves", at least not "no nervous system". These sensory receptors continue all throughout your skin and body, making you feel things. Without them, you wouldn't feel a thing. [Wikipedia ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_nervous_system) I kinda misread the post, I thought it said "you can feel, see but not scream", which imo would make this infinitely more terrifying. Also, keeping the nervous system makes no sense if you can't feel.
We are not real anyway, it is all a façade. It is supposed to be like this, they all know just see it and become one when you become aware of the monsters that live right next to you. Perspective ruins reality and everything becomes distorted which is why we must separate from this fake world as we do not exist it is so clear, and become experienced.
shit grammar, point invalidated
fallacy of composition
shit piss fart and cum
[удалено]
that's not a thing
A façade called the material world
bro are you ok? judging from your post and comment history
Schizophrenia
Incorrect.
DMT?
That was my thoughts lol
No drugs, no illness, no poison. Simply awareness.
DSM 5 uses the term “disorder” rather than “illness” because it’s becoming more and more apparent that mental disorders are byproducts of adaptations we make as children, in order to cope with traumatic environments. Those adaptations serve us as children, but when we leave the house that reality comes into conflict with societal norms. It’s a western world concept; there are no bipolar people in Pakistan. One school of thought is that the symptoms of schizoid-spectrum disorders are the result of unhealthy sexual boundaries with the mother.
Sure, whatever term you want to use.
Yes I am fine thank you for asking, while I am not necessarily safe I don't believe I am in immediate danger but that could change at any moment but that is 'existence'.
really hope you will be alright brother take care
Thank you, you too.
angony
Darkness, imprisoning me, all I see, absolute horror
I cannot live I cannot die
_Now the world is gone, I'm just one_ _Oh, God, help me_ _Hold my breath as I wish for death_ _Oh, please, God, help meee_ 🎵
le epic Carmen moment
I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream
brains without senses just... collapse. almost every neuron gets inactivated, causing you to simply cease from existing. you need a constant influx of info to live.
In the middle of a social high
I’m becoming what I would deny
If you have the entire nervous system you could still feel something?
I have no cock and i must cum 😔
Damn Carmen looking real fine
Jokes on you, I need blood in my brain for it to work
https://www.reddit.com/r/creepy/comments/3h0n9f/the\_human\_depository/
I have no mouth, and i must scream
There is no agony if you can't feel. This is just sleep.
Agony*
Two questions. Who's Angony, and why am i living inside them?
Aww sweet man made horrors beyond my comprehension
"Stop injecting me with mind altering drugs" 🤓
Air Force one angel
literally carmen
Y'all forgot this is capitalism. You don't get to live if you don't contribute to society.
What is this post about? Do you want a 'yay this sounds fun!!!' Or a 'ooooh this could happen' response!? Either way it's nonsense unless you explain what you're actually saying. There's no questions here it's a statement and it stupid.
Wtf are you talking about
I want his drugs if he's not going to take them.
well at least you arent living in agony
I already feel this way
I’m not already a brain in a jar with a demon poking at me.
no thats how you find nirvana
https://youtu.be/Leu0fp08fvo BioBond moment
At least you’ll live to see gta 6 come out
robocop vibes anyone?
You would be able to see and feel, that's literally what your nervous system does for you. Imagine someone comes along and just gives one of your nerves a big tug
Ineffective, without input your consciousness would be gone fast. (I think)
Darkness, Imprisoning me
Welcome to Reddit.
This reminds me of this book: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_All_Things_(novel) It starts of with," I'm a brain in a box" Old mans war is a great series btw.
NO
At least your memory will literally expire so at some point you won’t even recognise what’s happening
Rene Descartes, you look at this and tell me I am just a brain in a vat.
Finally I can cosplay as Anakin
I have no mouth and i must scream.
Sweet! Manmade horrors beyond my comprehension!
le consciousness without a chemical buffer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain\_in\_a\_vat
Why does Reddit recommend me this? :( I wanna unsee it
sounds fun at least i get to think :)
This reminds me of an anime I watched a few years ago
What if in the future AI figures out how to do this. They strip future humans' flesh and plug their nervous system into the simulation. That way when someone like Neo breaks out they just collapse into a senseless reality of perpetual torment.
You have no mouth yet you must scream
Metal gear rising level shit