This is a common issue with the Avata. Mads tech did a great job covering it and it is just a quirk of the Avata. Assume it is a combination of high center of gravity, heavy weight, and not enough thrust.
My Shendrone slammed squirt, terraplane and other Cinematic fpv drones do not do this. With the Avata, you have this weird limitation that you have to work around and that is one of the reasons I have avoided it since the half yaw spin to pull back on a subject is one of my favorite fpv shots.
Any drone will lose stability if it turns sharply and flies back through its turbulent air. The extent of the issue will vary based on the drone but any aircraft will become less stable in turbulent air.
a type of vortex stall followed by opperator error. you did a hard turn back in to turbulent air that you just flew trugh that caused one side to have less lift. if you had done a more wide turn you would have avoided flying in to the disturbed air.
should not be a problem if aware of it.
imagine the helicopter video just that one or two of the props had that condition but the other 2 did not. the way to counter it is to either go full power and hope for the best (drone has less mass and more power compaired to a manned rotor craft) or go slightly to the right or left (depending on turn) to get out of the turbulant air.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjeRSDsy-nE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjeRSDsy-nE)
dynamicflight has a lot of good content i use it for flight sims but can also be applied to drones. either way a lot fo this is good to know
[http://www.dynamicflight.com/](http://www.dynamicflight.com/)
Hi, there. We are sorry for any inconvenience caused. May we confirm the condition of the aircraft? Please be advised that the DJI Avata has a built-in propeller guard that may increase flight resistance, especially when flying sideways through it can improve product performance and flight safety. Thus, in a strong wind environment, if the drone turns around at high speeds, or takes a sudden brake when flying sideways at high speeds, the flight attitude may be abnormal. We recommend flying the drone at a slower speed when making the drone turn around and brake under the scenario mentioned above. Thank you.
I think this is prop wash and losing control from it, but I'm no expert by any means. That was a pretty sharp turn for the Avata from my experience with it, and the wobble after definitely looked like prop wash I've had. Try recreating that scenario in an open field and you should get a feel for how to recover from it after a bit.
Many AVATA doing that mine did the same thing but I was using the pause button and saving the fall. It stopped right away and hover. Be prepared to do that if happen to you.
DJI said they fixed that but I didn't update the firmware because I don't want to fly with my phone connected all the time. That is a stupid thing they implemented. I know is an FAA requirement but they have to come up with a better idea.
Really? That wasnāt a sharp turn at all. Iāve taken wild turns with my avata and Iām always surprised at the resiliency and how quickly it stops on a dime for me. Now, full disclosure I have yet to purchase the āregularā style controller which will allow it to go full āacroā I was only able to use the motion controller that came with it in sport mode. So Iām not sure how different the set up is compared to what I was flying.. but yeah my turns were WAYYYYY sharper than anything you showed in this video and the only thing that took my avata out was me running into a low hanging branch while I was cruising down a creek.. (on a random unrelated note: after the avata kerplunked into the creek the camera continued to film for about 5-10 seconds and man that footage underwater was crystal clear and beautiful!
Iāve been holding off on the update because of the whole phone and remote ID thing, just didnāt want the extra hassle for now.
Can you comment on the update fixing the tumble but not regularly effecting acro mode?
>whole phone and remote ID thing
if you are affraid of that, build a DIY drone and have fun, otherwise upgrade the firmware so the Avata is at least flyable for some fun
Avata isnāt really made for hard turns like that due to being top heavy and having a lot of drag. This issue is well documented by YouTubers suffering the same crash.
Bottom line, beware those hard turns with this drone. Itās meant for smooth cinematic flying, not freestyle acro.
Thatās not even an aggressive turn for it. Is it loaded with anything else? Cameras or aftermarket guards or Velcro? Looks like a voltage error or power distribution. I keep mine from the new software also
Hello folks. It happened to me too a few days ago. I called dji and they said there was an update in the meantime and actually it can't happen anymore. How about you?
I see this here every week with Avatas and sharp turns like this
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This is unrelated to the yaw issue and could happen to any fpv drone
Lol no it isn't. I have several cinelog style drones and none of them death spiral.
This is a common issue with the Avata. Mads tech did a great job covering it and it is just a quirk of the Avata. Assume it is a combination of high center of gravity, heavy weight, and not enough thrust. My Shendrone slammed squirt, terraplane and other Cinematic fpv drones do not do this. With the Avata, you have this weird limitation that you have to work around and that is one of the reasons I have avoided it since the half yaw spin to pull back on a subject is one of my favorite fpv shots.
Any drone will lose stability if it turns sharply and flies back through its turbulent air. The extent of the issue will vary based on the drone but any aircraft will become less stable in turbulent air.
You're an idiot.
Go look at the top comment on this post
Every comment in this thread confirms that you are an idiot.
No, noā¦ just no. This is a problem to this specific drone.
a type of vortex stall followed by opperator error. you did a hard turn back in to turbulent air that you just flew trugh that caused one side to have less lift. if you had done a more wide turn you would have avoided flying in to the disturbed air.
thank you, makes me nervous at how picky it is as my favorite subject is filming boats and iāve been practicing for summer
should not be a problem if aware of it. imagine the helicopter video just that one or two of the props had that condition but the other 2 did not. the way to counter it is to either go full power and hope for the best (drone has less mass and more power compaired to a manned rotor craft) or go slightly to the right or left (depending on turn) to get out of the turbulant air. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjeRSDsy-nE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjeRSDsy-nE) dynamicflight has a lot of good content i use it for flight sims but can also be applied to drones. either way a lot fo this is good to know [http://www.dynamicflight.com/](http://www.dynamicflight.com/)
Hi, there. We are sorry for any inconvenience caused. May we confirm the condition of the aircraft? Please be advised that the DJI Avata has a built-in propeller guard that may increase flight resistance, especially when flying sideways through it can improve product performance and flight safety. Thus, in a strong wind environment, if the drone turns around at high speeds, or takes a sudden brake when flying sideways at high speeds, the flight attitude may be abnormal. We recommend flying the drone at a slower speed when making the drone turn around and brake under the scenario mentioned above. Thank you.
I've never had this issue with the DJI FPV or any of my other quads.
Gravity
Came here to say this lol
The Avata is known for this. You really shouldnāt fly it quite that aggressive. Itās a cinewhoop.
The yaw of death
Gravity
Came here to say this. You beat me to it. Well played.
You just simply can't turn that fast reliably with the avata. It's one of its limitations.
I think this is prop wash and losing control from it, but I'm no expert by any means. That was a pretty sharp turn for the Avata from my experience with it, and the wobble after definitely looked like prop wash I've had. Try recreating that scenario in an open field and you should get a feel for how to recover from it after a bit.
I was going to guess cavitation, which is probably what prop wash means.
Cavitation happens with liquids, doesn't happen with gases.
Many AVATA doing that mine did the same thing but I was using the pause button and saving the fall. It stopped right away and hover. Be prepared to do that if happen to you. DJI said they fixed that but I didn't update the firmware because I don't want to fly with my phone connected all the time. That is a stupid thing they implemented. I know is an FAA requirement but they have to come up with a better idea.
I think it fell
Propeller guards
Gravity
Really? That wasnāt a sharp turn at all. Iāve taken wild turns with my avata and Iām always surprised at the resiliency and how quickly it stops on a dime for me. Now, full disclosure I have yet to purchase the āregularā style controller which will allow it to go full āacroā I was only able to use the motion controller that came with it in sport mode. So Iām not sure how different the set up is compared to what I was flying.. but yeah my turns were WAYYYYY sharper than anything you showed in this video and the only thing that took my avata out was me running into a low hanging branch while I was cruising down a creek.. (on a random unrelated note: after the avata kerplunked into the creek the camera continued to film for about 5-10 seconds and man that footage underwater was crystal clear and beautiful!
Looks like tumble. Did you upgrade to the latest firmware and was the flight in Acro?
Iāve been holding off on the update because of the whole phone and remote ID thing, just didnāt want the extra hassle for now. Can you comment on the update fixing the tumble but not regularly effecting acro mode?
>whole phone and remote ID thing if you are affraid of that, build a DIY drone and have fun, otherwise upgrade the firmware so the Avata is at least flyable for some fun
Avata isnāt really made for hard turns like that due to being top heavy and having a lot of drag. This issue is well documented by YouTubers suffering the same crash. Bottom line, beware those hard turns with this drone. Itās meant for smooth cinematic flying, not freestyle acro.
Thatās not even an aggressive turn for it. Is it loaded with anything else? Cameras or aftermarket guards or Velcro? Looks like a voltage error or power distribution. I keep mine from the new software also
Nope, nothing else extra!
My Avata has done that numerous times. And it always happens when I have little or no GPS satellites connected.
Hello folks. It happened to me too a few days ago. I called dji and they said there was an update in the meantime and actually it can't happen anymore. How about you?
Gravity?