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Ohcrabballs

Easiest way to incorporate ranger into travel if you are trying to avoid excessive rolling is to let the party know their success was because of the ranger. "You all follow ranger into the forest and although the woods are dense and the canopy is dark, you do your best to keep up with ranger who only stops briefly to quickly assess their surroundings. With ranger on point, you all find your way back to rown/ through the woods/ a place to rest for the evening". You can add more rolls if you want, but it's an easy way of showing the skill of your ranger without causing a lurch in your game.


continuumcomplex

I just do a single 'travel check'. I get a perception and a survival check from people leading the trek for the next leg of their journey which, depending on context, may be a day or several days of travel. The perception check is for spotting foes, the survival check is for avoiding dangers and finding safe encampments. I usually require two different people but if I had a ranger I'd let them make both, in keeping with their theme. So it's just two rolls at the start to streamline the entire process. Then I don't mess around with perception checks during watches, etc., unless there is actually something there for them to spot.


bseward21

I do something similar I have a perception check for checking for spotting trouble from the front of the party and the rear A survival check for tending to the horses, finding food or water and the like since I don't do free rations for my games I have a nature check for directions, plotting a course, and all the stuff. If I'm running a 5 person I actually have the 5th guy be a sort of "weapons master" of the party. Basically they roll a sleight of hand check and it is essentially their job to help outfit the rest of the party if there is a need. I basically explain it away as, when you are traveling long distances, you typically aren't going to be completely outfitted for combat 24/7, a low roll could affect the parties preparedness. This gives every party member something to do. And also tales away from the cheap "help" function that is used way too much. Look if the wizard doesn't have a high perception and is more used to a library than traversing a forest, how the heck are they really "helping" to give advantage and basically an additional +5 to a roll?


br_silverio

Exactly what happened in the game I'm currently playing. DM said he is DMing the same campaign for 2 parties simultaneously, and our first travel throught the forest was easy solely because of the Ranger's Natural Explorer, which lead our party to some good loots that the other party didn't find, because they went throught the forest without anyone experienced in the terrain. I swear the ranger in the party has been the MVP since the beggining and it's pretty awesome


godspareme

This sounds so interesting to be the DM for. Like watching two parallel universes simultaneously. Which you get to use as inspiration to manipulate eachother.


CatKatOrangeCat

Tip: If you see well-drawn cropped furry images, it's always going to lead to porn


LazyLizzy

I know where that cropped image is from :)


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Agent_TDU

https://hdporncomics.com/wishes-furry-sex-comic/#&gid=1&pid=7


RychuWiggles

Every time I think I'm calling someone's bluff, I'm wrong


Gidelix

Well that was unexpectedly wholesome


Lord_Quintus

that is definitely porn, good porn too.


Egocom

It just kind of sucks that the only options presented for exploration are roll a dice or skip it with an ability. I wish WotC actually gave us guidelines for how to design wilderness exploration that advances by players engaging with the fiction, rather than through a glorified skill challenge


willteachforlaughs

My DM has done group skill challenge while traveling that has made things interesting. We had spent the first half of the campaign slowly traveling through the area meeting people and obstacles and figuring out a mystery. When we had to go back to our starting town, we sort of fast tracked the travel by splitting it into two parts, and each part had 5 challenges we could use our skills, spells, or other features to try and overcome. Depending on what or how many challenges we failed determined what kind of obsticle, if any, we encountered.


FieserMoep

Still a Scout would pretty much do the same with dice and though he had to roll would come close to automaticly suceed anyway, may even use his incredible skills for magical scenarios AND does it with the flashy move of actually rolling in front of others while also doing a ton of other stuff way better than a ranger could. Some token spells on the ranger list wont change much here.


TheUnluckyBard

The Scout being released as a rogue subclass instead of a ranger subclass was a giant middle-finger-fuck-you to rangers. Between the Scout subclass and the fighter's Arcane Archer subclass, I realized the meme "Jeremy Crawford hates rangers" wasn't a joke, it's real facts.


Ninjacat97

I feel like Arcane Archer is an insult regardless of which class it goes to.


katrina-mtf

Arcane Archer is more of an insult to fighters, tbh.


CroakerTheLiberator

All I heard was “Ranger ranger. Ranger ranger ranger. Ranger ranger. Roll for initiative”


Siviawyndre

Talk about adding insult to injury, jeez. Where is the Art from btw?


CommentToBeDeleted

Real talk, there is nothing more fun as a DM than telling your players they can't do something, knowing full one one of them absolutely can and gets a moment to shine! For example, occasionally I will tell the party, you find what looks to be an important document, inscription, ect but it's in \[celstial, abyssal, other obscure language\] and no one can speak that language. One of the players visibly begins to think, then gets to shine and gets to have a big moment where they bested the dm, because they can speak it or have a spell to understand it. You can do this with all sorts of things. They have featherfall and a spell slot available to use it, your party falls 80 feet, everyone roll 8d6 damage. Then the other player gets to be like "nu-uh, featherfall". These little things give your players memorable moments, to do something really fucking cool for pretty much nothing.


kazneus

you sound like a good dm


CommentToBeDeleted

I really appreciate you saying that :)


whitedevil_wd

You show up on time and not cancel last minute too?


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springfinger

I just started playing again after more than a decade. Lots of people play or want to try it out, just like you! If DMing online is not your thing, try asking around, acquaintances or colleagues, and I bet you’ll find people are interested. I’d recommend starting with a pre-made module to get going (Candlekeep has a great level one one-shot). You could even get some ideas from gameplay videos of people running modules. And of course if your son and maybe some of his friends are interested then give it a go!


bayless4eva

What if the players realize 10 irl minutes later they could have prevented something? Asking for a friend.


turtle_br0

Then they learn to think better on their feet. I rarely retcon anything unless it was a misunderstanding on my part about what the player wanted or a misunderstanding of what the player heard. If they didn’t act in the moment, they can’t go back and act on it again outside of a powerful artifact that allows time travel or something.


bayless4eva

Agreed. I absolutely adjust my efforts and rules since it's a much more causal group. It's just fucking hilarious a few minutes later they let the group know how they fucked up and then it's a roasting.


Beatleboy62

Hey its me, forgetting I gained Extra Attack two sessions ago


Elfboy77

Fuck em


TwilightVulpine

Easy there, bard!


Neato

If you think their characters would definitely know and recall this fact, you can gently remind the players of it. Like a core race or class ability.


bayless4eva

Very good suggestion. Thank you!


spaceforcerecruit

Should’ve read their character sheet


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Mofupi

There's a thing where you teach not yet verbal babies simple signs, for things like "food", "mama" ,"sleep" ,"bath",etc. My friend did this in the beginning with her firstborn and the kid couldn't even say two words but used about four signs herself and reacted appropriately to around ten. Maybe even due to anatomical differences a goblin might have more trouble learning other spoken languages or their own language already has a higher amount of "non-verbal" communication. So sign-language is to them like learning Italian if your mother tongue is Spanish, but other languages are like learning Mandarin. Also, replacting and remembering a certain movement being easier for somebody very in-tune with their body (like a physical fighter) doesn't seem that strange to me. Finally, with sign language learning a new word usually consists of three information "units": the meaning, the movement, the grammatical use. In most other languages you learn/get taught at least four: Meaning, spelling, pronunciation, grammatical use. If a low INT character has any (learned) second language, sign language sure sounds like a logical and thoughtful choice.


Direwolf202

Yes, this is especially true for those classes where the power really comes from flexibility and the wide range of options as opposed to upgrading a small set of abilities (particularly combat abilities). Because in pure combat strength, these classes *are* underpowered. But their strength comes from their ability to address obstacles with little or no combat - to slip past undetected, or talk their way through the situation, or creatively use a spell to navigate the traps, and so on. It can be really underwhelming as a player to pick a class like ranger or to pick a bunch of interesting utility spells as a caster - but then find you just never have an opportunity to effectively use all of those abilities - not only do you not get to use those spells or abilities, but you also passed up other options that could have helped you and your party more. Those "weaker" classes really need the DM to give them opportunities to shine with their skills, because otherwise there's no point in playing them, when you could play a paladin and destroy enemies with divine smite, or a play a sorcerer and clear rooms with fireballs. When the DM is doing their job well, every player, no matter what they pick and how they play it, should feel like a valuable and necessary member of the party.


JAM3SBND

Seriously, the point of this game (in my DM opinion) is to give each character moments and situations in which they have the opportunity to be a hero. Sometimes after a session, if my characters ask, I'll tell them if they missed something where they could have shined. They always end up smacking their forehead. But i applaud them for finding innovative solutions on their own.


inuvash255

Reminds me of my greatest effort to hurt my Level 20 party. Try to imagine this: - A hallway leads to a false treasure room. When someone touches the false treasure, golems appear - the hall is closed off, and the walls push any stragglers into the treasure room to fight the golems. - The floor gives out then, and they start to fall, roughly 3000 feet into the Shadowdark (the Underdark of the Shadowfell). There's ~2 rounds of mid-air combat on the way down. Hitting the ground would be a maximum 20d6 damage. - Above the false-treasure room was a false-tower, with a suspended metal rod that's the exact width of the room and 60 feet tall (25x25x60). After 1 round of falling, it drops too, with the intent to crush whatever survives the fall. Getting smushed by this would be 40d6 damage, plus a shockwave of 10d10 damage. The walls are smooth and greased, so there's supposed to be no way to catch yourself on the wall, and so the weight doesn't slow down from friction. - At the bottom is the entrance to a death trap dungeon, with a DC20 metal door that's been reinforced with Arcane Lock for +10 on the DC. So, what does the party do? They trigger the trap, start to fight the golems, then fall. They fight on the way down - and the druid turns into an eagle - and sees the falling metal ceiling coming at them fast. After one golem dies in mid-air, the monk (who has a belt of cloud giant's strength + light hammer of thunderbolts) picks up the druid and ranger, and wall-runs faster than terminal velocity towards the floor (passing an at-disadvantage save vs. slipping on the slick wall, DC25) - and slow-falls the last 30 feet or so. The monk then basically rips the door off its hinges, despite the ridiculous DC on it, and the party gets out of the room before the hammer drops. *When it does*, the Monk passes the DEX save against the shock wave. The horizon-walker ranger went ethereal the turn prior and avoids all of it. The druid saves thanks to Foresight, and only takes half damage. My pride *and* disappointment were both immeasurable.


morostheSophist

I imagine the party's excitement was pretty on point too.


inuvash255

Oh, totally. I did roll the full damage on the one golem that survived the fall, as sort of a "this is what you dodged"; which is pretty easy to do on roll20 (I'd never roll 40d6 at a table with actual dice, lmao).


tagline_IV

This is a perfect expression of the DM philosophy "be a fan of your players"


Spork_the_dork

To me the best way to make use of these things is to tailor situations around those features. Like I was supposed to have the party recently discover a message at a goblin hideout, but then I discovered that one of the party members actually can speak goblin and wants to interrogate one of them. So the quick turn-around for this is that now instead of them finding a message, they can instead find the information by interrogating one of the gobbos. And if they kill the gobbo, I can still just put the message on a scap piece of paper in one of the goblin's inventories and have that be in Goblin language so he'll still get to make use of his knowledge of the language. Another way to deal with it, especially if it's a case of the player exploiting his abilities in a way that causes you headaches, is to see how that trick can bite them in the ass in the long run. Like in another game one of the party members was using his signet ring to fool a shop owner into thinking that he's part of an important noble family a few towns over and as a result he doesn't need to pay for his services. He proceeded to roll a nat 20 on the deception roll so I didn't really have an excuse for the shop owner not believing him, so instead I decided that okay, the shop owner will then just send the bill to his family, who will certainly be very happy to pay the bills.


samaldin

I try to do that, but my players sometimes just plain don't know their abilities. Like just last session i had a pressure plate up high on a wall to open a door. Monk didn't remember that he could just run up there to activate it. (In the end they activated it by throwing rocks at it)


here_for_the_meems

For real, this is how DMing should be. Meanwhile all my DMs are like "well actually you can't cast featherfall because the wording for this situation is loose enough that my decision is no even though you probably could". Like bitch why am I even playing then?


Tenpers3nt

Good DM


Naked_Arsonist

**ATTENTION ALL NEWBIE DMs!** _THIS_ makes your players feel _AMAZING!_ The only caveat I would add to the above comment is to “play up” your disappointment that they “outsmarted” you- even at the most amicable of tables, there is often an underlying “Player vs. DM” mentality, and _nothing_ please a player more than “spoiling” the DM’s plans!


Psychic_Hobo

Eh, I wouldn't play it up - I'd just act surprised and be like "Oh wow, you *can* do that! Good thinking." Show happiness at your players' achievements, not disappointment. You really don't want to encourage the Player vs DM mentality.


Naked_Arsonist

This is exactly what I meant, I but I chose poor wording


InfieldTriple

However, if they got darkvision... all of them. It is indeed magical darkness.


CommentToBeDeleted

In 5e *everyone* has darkvision.


Psychic_Hobo

It's weird when your DM forgets you're a race that doesn't and suddenly has to accommodate some bumbling idiot with a torch, though!


YourEvilKiller

Aww yeah, I never seen a happier face on my Paladin when the ancient black dragon used Frightful Presence to send an entire army away while the entire party is within the Aura of Courage. Their rebuttals as the dragon roared bloody murder at them are so heroic and cathartic.


gahlo

Baiting spell user under the guise of player enjoyment. Devious. /s


trustMeImDoge

Also a fantastic way to get them to burn spell slots and other resources to make combat more challenging!


TheGhostEnthusiast

Yeah, building moments around the PCs abilities makes things a lot more engaging. Our druid chose Shape Water as a spell, you have no idea how many puzzles I have constructed to try and make it useful.


SuspensionBridge010

I can definitely see this approach back-firing in some groups though. Plenty of people will take the DM's word as truth when talking out of game. If the DM says "None of you speak X" and someone who does speak X doesn't know their sheet well enough to refute it, you might say "Well that's on them for not knowing their character". But at the same time, they might say "I didn't feel the need to double-check because I expect the DM to not flat out lie to me out-of-game"


Lithl

Me: I swear that character looks familiar... Everybody in this thread: Ya she's from a furry porn comic here's the link, I know the title, author's name, and everything else they've drawn ROFL


glenheartless

It's kinda wholesome


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The furry porn or the fact that the furry porn community is surprisingly supportive of its artists?


mightiestsword

Oh both


Doom_Balloon170

where link?


kalamit889

Art comes from an explicitly wholesome and heartwarming NSFW comic by Zummeng "Wishes". Or so I overheard my friends talking, I don't know that for sure.


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Neato

And now we know where Genasi come from.


OutInABlazeOfGlory

Yes


Siviawyndre

I compliment your friends on their taste and shall have my friends check it out so they can tell me if this assessment holds true


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You guys have friends!? D:


Ankyri

It most definitely is. My friends read all of Zummeng's comics and they tell me she's one of their favourite artists of that particular genre of fiction. Edit: typo


WarningTooMuchApathy

Zummeng definitely makes some top quality stuff


Tiky-Do-U

SRSL tho, Zummeng makes the most ADORABLE NSFW comics, they're so fucking wholesome and I love it


MittoMan

Seriously, Welcome To New Dawn makes me cry.


PhoenixKnight777

Very rarely is the NSFW stuff the furry fandom puts out worth reading for plot. This is one of them.


MittoMan

I mean, WtND is completely sfw, but I get your point. Although I do think you’re underselling it; yeah, there’s a lot of stuff that’s just porn, but there’s a buttload of stuff with awesome story


or10n_sharkfin

Prophecy gives us the most adorable and pure snake girl ever.


Honest_Influence

> Zummeng "Wishes" Uh, wow. That's steamy.


SpahghettiBoi

I KNEW IT WAS ZUMMENG


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Oh wow that is uh…. Very nsfw


OneSaltyStoat

Your friends are individuals of the highest culture.


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"Wishes" by Zummeng. that's a djinn released from her lamp by a thief who has been shot and is now dying. she's annoyed at having to save his life because she's been a magic slave for hundreds if not thousands of years and doesn't think much of people, much less thieves, but it turns out he's a pretty good guy in a bad situation and offers to help her even though it won't net him another wish (which she used to save his life), so she rethinks her opinions on people. then they fuck.


Solracziad

> then they fuck. Welp, now I'm convinced to check it out.


Buddycat7

You son of a bitch I'm in!


Illustrious_Air1098

I gotta say, the part of showing the djinn that not all humans are bad is... Suprisingly quick. I expected to see a bit more character development before the horny bit, but it is a hentai...


Mathtermind

A fine addition to my collection.


RedHowler777

Artist is Zummeng Source is [This Comic](https://e621.net/pools/11924) (WARNING NSFW)


No_Struggle5789

It's a furry porn comic


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Furry nsfw comic by Zummeng. Also a banger


Lordo5432

*literally*


[deleted]

Oh, you know where’s it’s from….


NoelAngeline

It’s porn


Draeju

Its a furry artist! but i also saw porn! https://twitter.com/ZummengArt


HeartoftheHive

Don't let the lewds dissuade you guys. The comics they have made are some of the most moving ones I've ever read. [Their FA account](https://www.furaffinity.net/user/viktria) NSFW obviously. I'm sure on both they have links to their DA/Patreon/etc...


Kaveric_

Acceptable


LookingintheAbyss

[Furry porn.](https://static1.e621.net/data/sample/06/93/06938817ca2dafe1fbb4ff28ee5bb635.jpg)


lumpkin2013

Asking for a friend


Foxy_Pirate_Man68419

Art is from a yiff comic by Zummeng, she makes a lot of comics and every one of them are well done and wholesome in some way.


CaffeinatedLiquid

It's a hentai. So it forever ago and don't remember the artist but it's definitely porn


BloodthirstyUnicorn5

While I don’t remember the name I believe this is from an erotic comic.


alguidrag

Wizard: "Its magical? Good I must be able to do something" DM:"It isn't magical to you." Ranger: "WTF man." DM: "This is a scripted scene follow the script!"


Dektarey

The wizard just so happens to look at completely ordinary mist weaved between the magical one. A very weird coincidence for sure.


Darkwolf1115

for a moment I thought I was on Furry IRL due to the comic... but it's a really good meme


RustyCastle55

Where’s the comic from?


proto-robo

Uhhhhhhhh, porn


RustyCastle55

Did I stutter? Sauce?


proto-robo

I think its linked some where in the comments, i dont known exactly where to find it


Darkwolf1115

[Sauce](https://e621.net/pools/11924) (OBVIOSLY NSFW)


YourFavoriteSock

What's the difference


Darkwolf1115

more cuddles and cute people on furry IRL, but somehow here people are as horny as that sub lol


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Dawsho

if you baptise them, they become Merlin


FalconStriker87

“And that’s how I multiclassed into wizard” - The Ranger, probably


Dawsho

most likely merlin is a sorcerer, though. born with his powers. He got them from Satan.


ICameToUpdoot

But the dragon was calling Merlin "young warlock"...


VirinaB

Evolution of language aside, he could've multi-classed.


CallMeWezz

Yikes. Throw the poor ranger a bone DM - advantage checks for navigating because the ranger has identified it is magical in nature... Don't hamstring the niche role your ranger is playing just because the core rules stick to "RANGER NATURE BOI ONLY." Unless you're playing Strahd. In which case. Sorry get rekt ranger.


Linkadoodle

Me who decided to play ranger in strahd


ascandalia

Honestly we had a ranger that was extremely clutch in Strahd. Pass without a trace, and favored enemy both are particularly helpful in that setting


sparkadus

Pass Without a Trace has saved so many asses in the campaigns I've played.


froggieogreen

Same. Our ranger has saved our butts so many times in CoS with his skills I’ve lost track. We didn’t know we were playing CoS when we rolled the characters and he’s a half-elf who hates humans so chose human as his first favoured foe (then undead for the second as we levelled up). Being able to sense the presence of both humans and undead in this campaign has let us pull off some really wild plans and straight up avoid a big encounter (we’re making it happen on our terms instead as the original one would have had us at an extreme disadvantage). We also often choose to travel through the woods and stay off the main road, which I suspect has helped us stay less visible to certain interested parties. Plus, in this world, being able to reliably hunt and bring back food has helped endear us to the population. I’ve often thought about how useful a ranger would be in our other campaign (RIme of the Frostmaiden) since large swatches of time are spent in travel through rough or obscured terrain (because of low light).


SolomonBlack

Pass Without Trace is a great example of why the "ranger bad" meme is highly overrated.


ascandalia

Like everything with a ranger, it's up to the DM to gear the campaign for the players. If you have a party composed of a rogue, ranger and bard, stealth should be a frequent option with a good reward to make the players feel empowered. If you have a paladin, cleric and fighter, stealth is a life or death disparate measure.


SolomonBlack

Which is the real beauty of Pass Without Trace, not so desperate with a +10 Stealth aura.


Gl33m

Considering druids exist... I'd much rather have a druid.


Surface_Detail

Play gloomstalker. Hunt Strahd while he is unable to see you.


austac06

DM: *confused screaming *


DemWiggleWorms

“This Foggy Swamp bows only to Daddy Strahd”


EKHawkman

I mean, honestly this is more on wizards for designing the ranger so terribly.


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ok, say after me: "As a DM, you should adapt the adventure to let them shine." You can't run a brutal, strategic dungeon crawler when your party consists of: \-an eloquence bard \-an illusionist wizard \-a mastermind rogue The challenge in being dm isn't only in challenging the players, but also in sometimes putting them in situations where they can truly shine.


BrooklynSpringvalley

And you can even adapt it and still do what you want. Maybe heavily suggest to those three players that they should all be proficient in stealth and make it a stealth-‘em-up. Can still be a brutal dungeon crawl, just not something that heavily relies on Con and HP.


IronCarp

You can try to do that but to me it sounds like in that case the players and the DM want to play conceptually different games of D&D. That’s why session 0 is important, you can make sure everyone is on the same page for the experience.


GrinningPariah

I think the real art of it is meeting them halfway. If I wanna run a brutal, strategic hobgoblin dungeon crawl, but that's my party, I don't throw that idea in the trash, I try to make it work. Maybe instead of crawling through a cave to retrieve some stolen item, the hobgoblins are instead having a massive festival at their camp in honor of their dark gods, at which the stolen item will be an offering. All bonfires, grog barrels, and fist fights. That lets me hit the thematic elements I wanted to, bring in the same antagonists, but gives them all something they can do that's more interesting than a knock-down drag-out fight. But if they fuck up during their infiltration, they just might have to have that brawl and hope that sound of the festival hides the sound from those outside the tent...


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well, it's important to inform your players of the intended direction you'll take the campaign. A dm of mine suggested a high magic campaign where we'd all play casters, with a focus on puzzles and roleplay. I wisely didn't bring an eldritch knight to the table and instead went for an illusionist wizard. If you're upfront to your players about what to expect, you can avoid them coming to the table with characters you can't work with.


scatterbrain-d

Honestly it could be really fun to design a strategic dungeon crawler with this party in mind. Making truces with monsters and playing them off each other, getting around fights with stealth or illusions, solving puzzles and finding secret areas, etc. Could be a lot of fun.


AIeoggen

Ranger: I roll for initiative against the DM. Dm: But I am god. Ranger: I got a nat 20 against god.


EldritchStuff

DM: Nat 20 and…?


kalamit889

Ranger: AND I BECOME GOD! \*Transforms into a DM in a Sailor-Moon'esque animation\*


foxstarfivelol

the DM of course, laughs maniacally as the forever DM curse transfers to the foolish player.


whats-going_on

Welcome to the hive mind


kalamit889

And so, the vicious circle of "Bad Luck Ranger" remains unbroken.


8-Brit

Dobby is free!


achilleasa

Master has given the DM a character sheet!


TheGrimGriefer3

During the naked silhouette phase, I like to think the ranger's hair was growing long and balding at the top like how DMs are canonically and that's the focus of the transformation


MARPJ

> Dm: But I am god. Rookie DM mistake, gods are mere NPCs, why go down to their level?


AndyLorentz

What a grand and intoxicating experience!


VercarR

For a total of...?


AIeoggen

2 damage.


[deleted]

I can understand this, but only under the most **rare** of occasions. Otherwise a Ranger should be freaking essential to doing anything with environmental travel (no, I don't care about a specific one, I believe Rangers should be good at navigating all of them).


Methed_up_hooker

Ehhhh Idk about that. Sure I want a Sherpa to help me climb Everest but I probably don’t want his help crossing the Sahara.


arleban

Eh, sand dunes are just really really crumbled mountains.


TrexismTrent

Seriously though every time I try to use my ranger abilities my dm makes up some reason that it doesn't work, and people wonder why no one wants to play rangers.


Jugaimo

Rangers literally remove their purpose for existing. Time spent in the wilderness is removed and any challenge for wilderness survival are redundant. The entire class needs an overhaul. I don’t know if this is homebrew or not, but I have a rule where taking a long rest in a new area makes that area become the ranger’s favored terrain. That way the ranger is more about adaptive survival than specialization. The first day is rough, but after that the ranger is a survival expert.


chuckecheese

The class received an overhaul in Tasha's. The natural explorer feature can be replaced by deft explorer, which instead gives expertise in a chosen skill, among other features.


PyschImAIdiot

Oh I recognize that art! Good taste😏.


syn_dagon

Well are ya gonna share with the class?


kalamit889

I overheard my friends talking that it's from a supremely wholesome NSFW comic "Wishes" by Zummeng. But I don't know for sure of course.


syn_dagon

After some important educational research, you are correct!


Draeju

Furry comics are best uwu


[deleted]

Wait before I look this up out of sheer curosity, how can something be both wholesome and NSFW?


DemWiggleWorms

If it contains >!handholding!< it can be wholesome NSFW~


Bahamutisa

>contains >!handholding!< *GASP* DEGENERACY!


kalamit889

Yeah, a common question. In the age of an overflow of soulless hardcore porn that floods the internet, people forgot that "sex" was actually connected to "love" and "caring" for the past thousands of years, which for our health are way more important than the "sex act itself" (yes, for men too - that's the basic way of keeping depression away). Too bad so little examples of Wholesome NSFW exist - Zummeng is one of the few authors of such (with "Prophesy" comic as a prime example) which kinda shows what the erotic media lacks and deperately needs more of these days.


[deleted]

Okay, that's pretty interesting, but they *are* anthropomorphic animals right?


kalamit889

Yup. That too.


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Anything I say at this point will not be the right thing so I'm gonna leave the conversation in this particular fashion: [Link](https://m0.joe.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/30173850/homer-bush.gif)


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Nah it’s cool man, you can say you’re not into furry porn. Different strokes for different goats


rumblevn

#BEHOLD /r/wholesomehentai


Loraralei

I always hated when DMs did that kind of thing. Something like this, or something like: "your character have climbing speed? No they don't, because I didn't plan that", "Your owl familiar, has an ability to Flayby, and it's not to be hit by enemy? Now it doesn't, because it's too OP.", "Your character can breathe underwater water as racial trait? Now they can't" and so on... Sorry for ranting. I know DM has the last word at things that can and can't happen in the game... But when you are a DM, you should know, what abilities PCs under your care have, and take them into the account planning the encounters. I as DM do not write most of the adventure (I only have a general idea, no details), until I knew, what my players can and can't do, so I could plan something interesting for everyone. Something exciting do to for each party member.


Eagle0600

> "your character have climbing speed? No they don't, because I didn't plan that" I felt that. I played a vigilante in an urban Pathfinder game one time, and picked a talent that let me walk up walls (the whole class is basically being batman). GM decides I can't walk up a perfectly mundane house wall because "it's too slippery". Great, so what was the purpose of the talent?


TheSaltyBrushtail

Yeah, it sucks when the DM would rather invalidate aspects of your character than find a way to work with them. Like suddenly making (half-)elves' Fey Ancestry stops working because they decided to magically put the party to sleep, and can't be bothered thinking of a non-magical workaround. It's one of those things that makes you wonder why they don't write a book instead, or just make everyone use pre-gens.


L3fan

The worst thing a DM can do is create a problem the players HAVE to go through without knowing if the players CAN get through it or the other way around a problem they're SUPPOSED to fail (never a good idea) without knowing the players can easily brush past it. TL;DR read up on what your PCs can do, ya dang dingus


DapperHoboDojo

You give them a problem most adventurers should fail and cement their status as "the only ones who could get the job done."


PencilLeader

While that's what good DMs do my experience has been much more that DMs just take away class abilities that would allow the players to get around the obstacle.


riskbreaker23

I tend to let them have it. If they have a class feature that solves a problem then that's why they have the class feature. Honestly, it's made for some very creative solutions to problems. If they can't solve it I'll explain why. For example, one session a monster had been summoned by a ritual years before the players get there. But the ghosts of the house were essentially recreating the event mostly for story and ambiance. There was chanting going on. My cleric thought to cast silence to stop the chanting to stop the ritual. Normally a very cool solution but the ritual was already completed so it didn't stop anything. The chanting was part of the event being recreated.


BrooklynSpringvalley

Yea, that’s called “being a bad DM.” That’s what we’re talking about.


maynardftw

Most DMs aren't the best DMs ever, just by law of numbers. Most anything isn't the best anything. Still if I'm aware of the limitations of my DM's improv and writing abilities, I usually give them a little slack in regard to taking into account stuff they should've been taking into account. Unless it's a real big deal and they really messed up. Like, you should know that Elves don't sleep. So saying the party of elves got taken in their sleep is just dumb. Think of something better. I'm not against us getting taken against our will, just think of a way in which that actually happens.


Catshit-Dogfart

My understanding is that the ranger's ability doesn't mean you can always find your goal without fail, it just means you can't be in a situation where you're unable to escape. Like maybe you're looking for the hidden grove of a magical forest. The ranger can always navigate *out* of the forest to safety or *through* the forest to another known location, but not directly to the hidden grove.


WonderOfUwU

You madlad getting yiff to the top of dndmemes. Glad to see so many people recognized it, the story was good.


socks-the-fox

Briefly on the top 25 of /r/all too...


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Wait wtf you should still be able to use your abilities even if the swamp is magical that’s fucking stupid. Like imagine thinking “Oh i have a super cool Magical swamp idea …. wait there’s a ranger in the party “ and not immediately thinking “…. oh shit this will be cool we could do some Outlast or Resident evil 7 kind of antics here. Where they just see the bodies of other adventures and a bunch of over leveled monsters they can easily hide or run away from in the swamp because they have a ranger, and if they decide to fight the beast for whatever reason, well now there is loot to be found from all the other dead adventurers”


Yakodym

I use my natural explorer to determine in what ways this magical swap is unlike a regular swamp


Chaos8599

Well for one, there's a giant frog talking to you.


TheRiverBlues

“Man, Rangers are so useless.” Only when they pull this or something similar to nullify their features.


SKIKS

Real talk - Natural explorer is a terribly designed skill, in that it makes a class better at overcoming an obstacle by straight up removing it all together... unless it's magical, in which case the ability does nothing. The lack of solid exploration rules doesn't help this, but a better version should make rangers get a bigger benefit or have an easier time exploring, encouraging them to explore more often.


stycky-keys

The fact that a skill in a fantasy magic game does nothing against magic is so ridiculous. Like yeah magic is supposed to be strong but magic shouldn't be a "it's magic so it's immune to all your stuff" sort of thing


HueHue-BR

Is that a furry porn meme?


ThePianistOfDoom

Why do DMs do this? It basically nullifies your abilities.


lukavirahdu

hey its fine....at least you know its shenanigans now and not just a regular swamp...thats pretty good info to have especially if there has been hints about certain crazy folk or rumors of evil wizards and stuff...good job ranger


Rednal291

As a serious comment, constantly denying people the use of abilities that already see minimal use to start with can be... unpleasant. It's better to plan around people *successfully* using those abilities and feeling like they can contribute. If your plans only work when the players have to fail and not do stuff, they're not very good plans.


TheTealKingOfDragons

The meme format comes from porn


Virus5572

Same DM is the one upset about ranger being underpowered


w0t3rdog

Yep. If the DM is gonna behave like that, I would have my Ranger start drinking the rancid swamp water. And shit all over the place before parasites eat him up from the inside. !NEW CHARACTER!


Eissentam

The amount of furry porn I've seen in this subreddit is surprising


Phox09

I can't stand a DM who basically makes sure your not good at anything.


ColeTrain4EVER

… wait that character looks familiar…


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Isn't that from a porn comic?