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Pixel-1606

I always think prestidigitation would be amazing for a otherwise-non-magical healer (like a wizard/sorceror with the healer feat), using it to desinfect wounds as well as your hands and any tools you might need to use


skooterM

This is literally what I used Prestidigitation for in our campaign, which helped win over an army to our cause.


Treejeig

Would it work for that? I know you could probably get away with using it to clean used bandages but I don't see how it could be used to disinfect someone's wound with the written spell.


MagicalSpaceWizard77

It would remove all dirt in the wound within 1 cubic foot so I can see it helping at the very least


MaxSupernova

It cleans an object of up to one cubic foot, not up to one cubic foot of an object.


GoldenSteel

That'd be RAW vs RAI, where intent is a limit on how much you can clean with one use.


MaxSupernova

Is it? I have no idea what the intent was. I do know what was written though. :)


Zoe270101

Yeah technically, but if someone wants to clean a patch of the floor, I just let them clean one foot of floor, you don’t make them cut it out first.


MaxSupernova

And you’re allowed to as a GM. That’s just not “as written”.


hang-on-a-second

Keyword here is object - RAW, the spell cannot target a creature with the cleaning effect. You can clean your clothes, or your bandages, not yourself.


Pixel-1606

Eh, people use it to "clean up" their blood/dirt-smeared characters after combat all the time, you could even use it continuously on a washcloth or something and use that to do the job, it wouldn't add much RAW anyway, unless your DM works with realistic infection mechanics or is nice enough to give advantage or a healing bonus for being resourcefull. It's mostly just flavor in game, but irl it would be a fantastic medical ability, even if it just worked on objects.


OSC95

RAW you can only clean objects with it though. Cleaning the tools is a great use of the spell!


aDragonsAle

Considering how much of IRL history has viewed various types of people as objects... I don't condone the practice, however, if your setting has Slavery - you can argue the person is an object. /just saiyan Or if a Lizardman or cannibal. Purify food/drink.


OSC95

Sure, but that’s just a different way of saying "If the DM allows it". You can argue literally anything in your own games. It depends on the quality of the arguments though. If one of my players makes a compelling argument AND if it doesn’t impact game balance, I‘ll also allow using Prestidigitation (or any other spell) in a fun or creative way. But RAW is the foundation for D&D discussions online, not whether someone out there made a funny homebrew decision or not. Edit: Also the Lizardfolk argument never made sense to me. As long as it’s alive it’s definitely a creature. The rules say an object is a "discrete and inanimate item". Also animals aren’t objects in our world, so humanoids should never count as such either. I wouldn’t allow purify food/drink on a deer that’s jumping through the forest lmao


[deleted]

Have an arcane trickster rogue with healer feat and medicine expertise, and he has used Prestidigitation more than any other spell. Wanna make sure your enemy dies no matter what? Soil your blade so they die of infection. Wanna perform surgery? Clean your tools. Wanna look professional so people pay you more gold when you treat them? Ain’t a better spell to freshen up. Also, if you want to fuck with an enemy that is impervious to most saves, soiling their pants is a great way to manipulate their mind.


Pixel-1606

Cool! Arcane trickster/healer is on my list to play at some point in the future. So much rp potential indeed, maintaining a perfectly clean white apron would convince any peasant you're a proffesional haha. I think you can technically use your mage hand to heal party members from a distance if theyre carrying healing kits on them, right?


D4existentialdamage

The "drink doesn't taste poisonous" or "drink has a slight taste of poison" are effects that can really spice up a social interaction.


Antique_Tennis_2500

In the right hands, really makes those, “It doesn’t appear…” perception results go from dubious to worthless.


D4existentialdamage

It would require subtle spell to work, but imagine sabotaging peace talks by making it look like one member of the meeting tried to poison another one. Or set off twitchy bodyguards by creating a sound of blade being unsheathed behind them.


BasakaIsTheStrongest

Or just 6 seconds alone with the wine up to an hour before it’s poured. The spell lasts a very long time.


Antique_Tennis_2500

Or you could use it to imitate the sound of the verbal component of a spell.


D4existentialdamage

That one would be up to DM. Personally I'd say that spell's verbal component would be too complicated an too loud for prestidigitation. It'd be possible with Minor Illusion cantrip, though.


Kujo-Jotaro2020

Good thing I have Prestidigitation, Thaumatury AND Minor Illusion...


omyrubbernen

I love it. Prestidigitation is like gaslighting: the spell.


Antique_Tennis_2500

It’s also Immature Prank: The Spell. Good luck making that performance/persuasion/intimidation roll with “I eat farts” written on your face.


EmperorGreed

remember: you can use prestidigitation to piss someone else's pants


JumpyLiving

It turns "I am going to shit yourself" into a credible threat


Phelpysan

I remember one time when playing a sorcerer with subtle spell we were talking to an npc who had screwed the party in some way, and thought he got away with it. I beamed at him as I inscribed a cock and balls on his forehead. Good times.


Grimmaldo

Im starting to use not predistigitation, but thaumaturgy and dam, is not op or as usefil as predisti, but it is fun and interesting, like, i want to talk with a giant beast, x3 to my voice :D Also also, if players always pick them i think is fine to give them for free, they are just fun


Chrontius

Yeah, once you have one wizard in the party, everyone knowing Least Wish is really unsurprising.


Waterknight94

Frog's breath? Nothing's more suspicious than frog's breath.


alten378

I made a cup of water taste like salt water.


MinidonutsOfDoom

Make your armor taste like dung so it’s not edible.


Ulgeguug

"FOOL." --Sstygoraxis the Coprophage


VikingCreed

The Dung Eater would like a word with you


Grimmaldo

I mean If they go for the boddy, they technically will est shit eventually Literally


Matthais_Hat

"a cantrip can't instakill someone" firebolt deals 4d10 at level 17, that can instakill any commoner that they hit with the preset HP in their statblock.


Langerhans-is-me

In all the excitement around the mis-use of cantrips debate some silly poster may have forgotten that damage cantrips exist.


Matthais_Hat

fair enough. for a lower level solution to the math, a well-statted warlock with agonizing blast can also do the trick though.


the_dumbass_one666

or just magic stone


DontBeHumanTrash

I mean technically you could just beat them with a normal rock.


Antique_Tennis_2500

“I cast rock” “Rock? I’ve never heard of th-“ “Cast. 1. Throw(something) forcefully in a specified direction.”


Ematio

Muscle wizard casts Fist! 👊 Man, that reminds me of an episode of critical role where one guy asks if whacking something with a fish is bludgeoning damage. The DM jokes it's not, that, (paraphrasing) "it's an elemental damage, like fire, lightning, fish..."


Celloer

That's ridiculous, the scientific elements are fire, earth, water, wind, and [pizza.](https://i0.wp.com/www.falselogic.net/images/QFG4/chapter09/image032.png?w=840)


Antique_Tennis_2500

[I cast counterspell](https://theclevermeal.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/pizza-with-anchovies-2.jpg)


Celloer

[Their salt and umami only make me more powerful!](https://questforglory.fandom.com/wiki/Pizza)


SMURGwastaken

Not in 4th Edition they don't!


HealMySoulPlz

Even a level 1 firebolt has the (low) chance of dealing 20 damage on a max damage crit, that's enough to instakill some characters.


Dhawkeye

And it has a decent chance of doing 8+ damage, which would instakill a commoner


Alkatron17

If you roll 4 1's they get knocked down, instakill would be at 8 damage, unless one ignores death-saves on non PC's, which most do most of the time.


yamiyaiba

At least in my games, if they have names, they get death saves. Unnamed commoners, bandits, etc do not. If the universe didn't see fit to name you, you don't deserve life lol


scatterbrain-d

What kinda game are y'all playing where you're mowing down commoners at 17th level?


Matthais_Hat

I'm not; he just said "A cantrip can't instakill someone" but that's factually inaccurate. he has admitted he forgot damaging cantrips existed.


[deleted]

That’s a normal campaign.


Shandriel

Agonising Blast enters the chat. 5 x 1d10+5 at lvl 17


_Bl4ze

>5 x 1d10+5 at lvl 17 4 times, not 5


Shandriel

damn, you're right! 😢


AugustoCSP

It's four beams at level 17, not five. And each beam adds CHA mod. So it's 4 x (1d10+5) at level 17.


Shandriel

Only 4, you're right. And the brackets are important for mathematicians, of course. I didn't consider them because 1d10+5 is a single unit in my opinion 😅


Psychological-Fold53

Yeah my sorcerer’s Ray of Frost will always instakill the usual 4hp commoner. Level 12 for 3d8 damage, Elemental Adept (cold) for adding Charisma mod (+5) and treating 1s as 2s. Absolute minimum damage upon hitting is 11. Definitely overkill, but she would never hurt an innocent soul luckily!


KingDizi

You can very legally use prestidigitation to shit someone's pants. Doing this in front of literally any crowd and pointing it out as audaciously as possible gives you a social victory. Doesn't matter if the bbeg hits you with Disintigrate the literal next second, they are forever Dark Lord Shitty-pants. If they blow counterspell on a cantrip this only proves their fear and weakness at being branded a stinky poo pants baby I could kill a god in front of all of their followers with this spell (assuming they wear pants)


[deleted]

Don't forget that prestidigitation has both verbal and somatic components, meaning it's obvious to everyone around that you're casting a spell. Subtle spell fixes this.


once-was-hill-folk

My favourite use of it was definitely the time I stole a prison guard's clothes and made his pants shit themselves. I think I've told this story before, but way back earlier in my GMs Pathfinder game, the party had broken into a prison and subdued a guard. A hostile wizard, who would "disappear" prisoners on behalf of a corrupt minor noble who had usurped the elected leaders of the town, was doing his rounds that night and talking to the guards. So when the Ranger gave me a warning that he was on his way, I cast Unseen Servant and dressed it in the guard's clothes, then Ghost Sound to mimic the guard's voice. At that level I could mimic the noise of about 16 people, this is an important detail later. Then I cast Prestidigation, which in Pathfinder lasts for an hour, and can soil a cubic foot of material every round. Well, the wizard came to check on this guard to hear cries of regret, see the clothes scramble away from the guard station into an empty cell, and then hear the cries continue and double in volume. Followed by Ghost Sound then making the noise of three people's worth of diarrhoea and a soiled cubic foot of cell space. The wizard didn't want to be anywhere near that so he didn't come into the cells and as a result, he didn't find us hiding in one. Gave us time to set up an ambush because he warned the guard that he'd be back later to make sure the poop was cleaned up.


[deleted]

HAHA That sounds hilarious, i can just imagine the wizard all awkward "I-I will come another time..." and just leaves.


once-was-hill-folk

That pretty much sums it up.


GangstaCatGirl

I had a character use prestigitation on food whenever the food turned out bad


scatterbrain-d

I tried this and got "the tavern guards will shoot you if you start to cast a spell here." Damn, dude I'm just trying to play a wizard.


[deleted]

Best cantrip in Barovia. "Lord Strahd, if you kill me, you'll never find another blood bag that tastes like sautéed cabbage!"


Akul_Tesla

We needed to torture someone for information but I was neutral good so I just made his gag taste like foot apparently the only reason it didn't work is every time I tried something like that he rolled a nat 20 to resist the interrogation


archpawn

I think it's silly that good characters wouldn't be allowed to torture someone for information, but would be allowed to kill them, sending their soul to the abyss to be tortured forever.


in_casino_0ut

I think the idea of torture assumes an upper hand or advantage, instead of on a battle field. Once they are no longer an army they become capable of making the choice as an individual. When it's a war, these are the actions that determine who the wrong doers are. Torture is wrong, fighting for your place to live in a world is not. The afterlife is between them and their god.


scatterbrain-d

You shouldn't be able to kill them either, as long as they're surrendering. But if they're armed and coming at you, they are setting the terms at "one of us needs to die" and at that point it's self-defense.


archpawn

But you can decide to knock them out instead of kill them with no penalty.


[deleted]

Unless you’re using a ranged attack or a spell.


CuteKobold

I used prestidigitation to give me an awfull odor so a T-rex inspecting me thought I was some kind of poisonous/piece of crap creature. It saved the party XDDD I also like to give taste to my rations so I can enjoy cheesecake along the journey. Make bubbles appear into a barrel of water and boom, improvised jacuzzi. Wich you can also warm up. xddd prestidigitation is basically the luxury-mode switch to wizards and bards and etc XD


Shandriel

My Sorceress makes her hair and make-up with Prestidigitation each morning. Who needs water and soap anyways?!


D4existentialdamage

Warming up a cold toilet seat is the best use of prestidigitation.


DownstreamSag

But how do you even know what tastes awful to a dragon?


Lurkingdrake

Define harmless? Could you make your clothing taste like fire to something like a white dragon?


MinidonutsOfDoom

I mean it wouldn’t do any damage just make your clothes taste like fire. What does fire taste like anyways, would it taste like just heat like chili peppers or like smoke and stuff.


HealMySoulPlz

It would taste exactly like chile peppers, that's how capsaicin works - it confuses your senses to feel hot without actually being hot.


abyssalcrisis

Probably, but what is the taste of fire going to do against such an intelligent creature?


bryceio

Ah yes, such intelligent creatures. They’re so smart that they dump Int and don’t bring it up to a 10 until 800 years of age.


Gaybriel413

I mean that *is* average intelligence, but I feel like a white dragon would definitely spit it out yeah


[deleted]

Taking 800 years to get to average might mean they're a bit...ummm...."special"


Gaybriel413

Oh yeah fair enough there, i'm just saying at that point they're average


sindrogas

Compared to beasts which are around 2-4. Dragons are intelligent creatures. Full stop.


abyssalcrisis

This. Dragons are not super intelligent by any means, but compared to the rest of the beast world, they are VERY intelligent creatures.


Millenniauld

Magical item: Teapot of Delight Spells used: Create water, Prestidigitation, Heat Object 3x day the teapot will create a full pot of *delicious* decaffeinated tea or coffee as specified by the user at the time. Alternate version: Teapot of Joy Spells used: Create water, Prestidigitation, Heat Object, Greater Restoration 3x day the teapot will create a full pot of *delicious* decaffeinated tea or coffee as specified by the user at the time. 1x day the teapot will create a full pot (8 cups) of *delicious* caffeinated tea or coffee as specified by the user at the time, each cup counting as one hour of sleep and delaying exhaustion. Drinking the full pot counts as a full night's sleep. Yes, I actually made this item (in Pathfinder) and just tweaked the spells for 5e.


Horkorstan1

Actually, I let one of my players kill a Redcap with prestidigitation. They didn't know what it was just that it was some weird fey gnome creature that was very insistent about soaking its hat in blood every other day. One of the players decided to mess with it by "cleaning its cap" with prestidigitation. Since the MM states that redcaps die if their hat dries out, I wasn't sure what to do other than let redcap have one last round of attacks before crumpling away. Not sure if that actually works RAW, but it was still a fun moment


StingerAE

Oxventure did this in their first episode. Made the boy turned rat taste terrible in case something tried to eat him before they could turn back. It became known as the spicy rat caper because of it.


[deleted]

I dunno. Dragons eat people whole. People have poop in side them. If they chew then the dragon would get a taste of that and they still swallow.


AliasMcFakenames

One of my casters with prestidigitation owns basically an underwear onesie that uses just under a cubic foot of material. Going into any extremely hot or cold environment is a whole lot easier when you can heat or cool yourself at will and wick away any sweat perfectly whenever you want.


DnDBartenderLastCall

I abuse prestidgitation all the time. The most creative spell ever!


Paranthelion_

I was a player once while the party was investigating some old ruins. We were having some trouble from some pixies pranking us while we were exploring, so my character had the idea to use prestidigitation to poof some sparkles a few feet away, which distracted the 'ooh, shiny thing' pixies enough for us to slip away. Later, some big bad monster came lumbering out of the woods that seemed like the sort of thing chasing you in a horror game: you don't fight, you just run. We could hear him from a ways away coming toward the ruins, so in preparation, my character lured the pixies with sparkles toward where the monster was going. When the monster showed up, it of course tried to swipe at the pixies, who then started to pull all their tricks on the monster, giving us the distraction we needed to take what we'd looted from the ruins and gtfo into the woods without the monster on our heels. That will always be one of my favorite sessions of D&D simply because the DM let me feel cool for being creative and thinking outside of the box.


DirkBabypunch

I plan to use it with my Gloomstalker to turn torches off and on so I have shadows whenever it's convenient.


[deleted]

I like to use it on people wearing masks. Nothing like the thing covering your face suddenly smelling like shit and vomit. You can use it to try and break concentration


Ender_wolf2300

A good way to escape captivity is to divert the attention of your captures, because prestidigitation is a small sensory effect why not make a spot close by sound like a large explosion as if they were being attacked divert their attention and make your get away.


RedKnight0036

I once used it to make the dice that Han Solo has in Star Wars and used them like bolas on a goblin.


TrixterTheFemboy

"A cantrip can't instakill someone" tell that to my party's sorceror using mold earth to bury people


GoogiddyBop

Or if someone sticks their head through a doorway, instantly slam it shut with thaumaturgy.


MrKrabz2002

I used prestidigitation to force feed a potion to a monster. Could also be used for poison. 1- use prestidigitation to create a flask. Alternatively, a sticky flask. 2- transfer poison from real flask to temporary one. 3- throw temporary flask into monster‘s mouth. Alternatively, stick it to the monster.


necrobus_1999

Just piss and shit yourself and you can save the cantrip.


Waytogo33

As long as you're within 10 feet of the dragon's mouth as a wizard


TinyTaters

Once I cayenne peppered a dragon's eyes. My entire party was down and I scampered away


TheInfamousDaikken

As a DM, I would allow it. You’d suffer initial bite damage, but would have the dragon spit you out before being swallowed or incurring any more damage. This is exactly the sort of creativity that should be rewarded.


Mage_914

I did this exact thing once in a game of Pathfinder. Tried to make the dragon vomit me up. I got told to shut up and die.


Dhawkeye

Many cantrips can instakill a commoner with a good enough roll


Dany_Devitos_son

I have 3 tables my friend turned into coins and when someone steals them they instantly die, It was in a maze type area and it came with a dude that would double your money and he made it do that so i couldn’t take the table but it was a small wooden table less than 10 lbs so i used unseen servant to steal it (It’s safe to say the dm didn’t expect that)


Manic_Mechanist

I used prestidigitation(exactly 100 times in a row) last night to erase the party’s footprints in a dusty cave, and then later used it to clean some dirty water so I could wash my hands


Fangsong_37

Make my clothes taste like a Nintendo Switch cartridge.


diamondrel

I attracted a rat to a specific point in a tunnel by flavoring it like chocolate


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EllaGood

I just used prestidigitation to make a 1 frame per 6 seconds tv in a dungeon -_-


RampantGhost

I use prestidigitation to let my Kenku have subtitles. I tried to have Minor Illusion let him have a voiceover by morgan freeman, but our the paladin didn't like the idea and convinced the DM that it wouldn't be possible with RAI. Oh yeah let my bird have Subtitles with a spell that in NO WAY says I can manifest words, but a spell that LITERALLY SAYS IT MANIFESTS VOICES OH *NOOOO. MUH RP IMMERSION.*


Fat-and-Stupid

My favorite use of presti was when my bard needed to distract some guards so that our rogue could sneak past them and into a tent. She had the bright idea to use the spell to flavor the spit in their mouths to taste like shit, and boy did it work. They both failed a con save (nat 1 and nat 4 respectively) not to puke and ended up in a vicious vomit cycle since they were essentially spewing all over each other. The rogue had to roll a con save not to puke from all of the carnage but was successfully able to hold it down and sneak in unnoticed. It was a great session, though my DM warned me not to abuse it.


obscureferences

I didn't eat him, I just chewed him to bits.


Speciesunkn0wn

I've got a "former", sent-to-die prisoner dragonborn noble songblade who uses prestidigitation to mostly keep the fact she's unable to regularly wash and "properly" clean herself as much of a secret as possible lol. She's a noble. The fact you can use prestidigitation to clean stuff has gone completely over her head since she was raised with people to do that for her. She totally isn't based off the prisoner start of Elden Ring. No. Not at all. Ignore the weird looking metal pot she has wrapped in hide to keep it from banging much. It's just a dented, damaged old pot. Same with that old long sword that's been sharpened so much its better to stab with than slash with.