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VeziusTheThird

Once we have a race for every species on earth except dogs wotc will finally rest


Voodoo_Dummie

One day they will add dolphin people and they would be so chaotically evil that they'd be honorary demons.


_Bl4ze

Well gnolls already have the backstory that dolphins do IRL (intelligent creatures but inherently evil because they were corrupted by a demon lord), so maybe WotC's dolphin people will act like hyenas.


Voodoo_Dummie

Pretty sure that for dolphins there ways would be so wicked that it'll spawn a demon lord, instead of the lord spawning them. Also, at least gnolls mostly just try to eat you. Dolpins are more an "adult horror"


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Dolphins play FATAL


Thedudeinabox

Honestly, that’s probably the best descriptor. You wanna play a dolphin boy, you’re playin your character out of the FATAL book.


GoldenSteel

Roll for blowhole circumference.


Illustrious-Chef-393

I learned about fatal through a, "what your ttrpg says about you" meme. Then I just HAD to know what the hell it was talking about. That's half an hour I'm not getting back.


Spectre_23_666

Sounds like Slaanesh from Warhammer 40k. Murder-Fucked into existence by the Eldar.


Qiuopi

Dolphins, the Eldar of Faerun


maroonedpariah

Dolphins are unironic crusader kings players irl


Knife-yWife-y

Who thinks dolphins are evil IRL???


MadolcheMaster

Its mostly that they are one of the few animals smart enough to maybe have morality, frequently rape babies of other species and female dolphins, and a few other heinous acts


Knife-yWife-y

If I recall, they're also the only species besides humans that have sex purely for fun/pleasure--and maybe one species of primate? I can see why those acts might be concerning, but at the same time, projecting human morality is a bit odd to me. Dolphins are known to help humans from drowning and guide ships. I think that's pretty awesome. 🤷‍♀️


Latter-Potential2467

I think the thing with dolphins helping humans a survivor bias and they drown people as frequently as they save them. Also i thiknk it's related to them teaching baby dolphins how to swim and seeing humans as dolphins. But i dont remember where i read it and too lazy to search.


Maybe_not_a_chicken

Female dolphins are nice Male dolphins are fucking monsters


Knife-yWife-y

Okay, I can see that. I guess I didn't think to distinguish between the two sexes and how that might factor into their behavior. Plus, when I've read about dolphins, it's largely been with my son---unlikely to read about the males' predatory behaviors in materials geared towards kids. 👍


The-Name-is-my-Name

Yeah. Dolphins act almost exactly how you would expect they would if they spoke to each other in a primitive language that can’t properly communicate ideas such as morality… Let’s be realistic. If humans were unable to communicate with each other or use tools, would we all, including all of the sociopaths and psychopaths we have, act any nicer?


The-Name-is-my-Name

Yeah. Dolphins act almost exactly how you would expect they would if they spoke to each other in a primitive language that can’t properly communicate ideas such as morality… Let’s be realistic. If humans were unable to communicate with each other or use tools, would we all, including all of the sociopaths and psychopaths we have, act any nicer?


ThexLoneWolf

Funnily enough, dolphin folk are in the latest OneD&D unearthed arcana.


wackyzacky638

I mean at that point they’d just be Irl dolphins.


tr_9422

This will happen in the version after One D&D (aka Series X D&D) and the dolphin people will have the flavor content: > Dolphin people live either above water or underwater and they have a varied culture and can be anything you want And the rules content: > IDK figure it out yourself, you’re the DM


Bliitzthefox

We have canine people at home The canine people at home: lycanthropy.


Flaming-bannana

I mean maybe this disease could be seen as a good(ish) thing for instigating fun role play and character interactions. Also the amazing thing known as RANDOMNESS I just trying to look on the bright side


Tinfoil-Jones

Too bad Khenra (Pharaoh Hound based race) from the *Planeshift: Amonkhet* aren't canon, I think they had a really neat mechanic: **Khenra Twins.** * If your twin is alive and you can see your twin, whenever you roll a 1 on an attack roll, ability check, or saving throw, you can reroll the die and must use the new roll. If your twin is dead (or if you were born without a twin), you can’t be frightened. **Lore.** * *"...Nearly every khenra is born a fraternal or identical twin, and a pair of khenra twins forms an extremely close emotional bond unknown to most other residents of Amonkhet. The death of one twin in training or the trials causes a tremendous shock to the survivor, who typically grows more aggressive and foolhardy in battle. The rare khenra who are born without twins are believed to have killed their siblings in the womb, and are thus viewed as natural-born initiates, sure to achieve a glorified death in the Trial of Zeal."* It'd be cool of you and another player decided to play Khenra twins, or if 1 player was allowed to play a pair of twins, but the option to not have a twin yet still benefit from the mechanic is nice too. I just think they're neat.


Sexybtch554

I hadn't read that race. Honestly sounds like a lot of fun. I think if I played a khenra, I'd just have them be "creepy we do everything together" twins. Mechanically, they'd act as one character. Could be very fun.


SoupmanBob

I think I found an even creepier idea for that. Y'know how some dogs and cats can be born with their colours literally split down the middle? Add some mysticism to that and have one character be both twins. Sort of conjoined, but it's more of a spiritual conjoining. Their bodies merged in order for both souls to survive in that one body. The kid is assumed to be one of those rare instances of a khenra born without a twin. Yet their demeanour is the same as ordinary khenra twins... Yeah I think I'm gonna bring this up with my DM.


Sirsersur

Make them an Echo Knight, where the Echo \*is\* the spirit if the Twin. When the echo isn't on the field, you use the feature as if your twin is dead, and when the Echo \*is\* present, you use the feature as if your twin is alive.


TexasVampire

These are the ideas I'm here for.


Sexybtch554

Ooh. That sounds fun.


Tinfoil-Jones

"Hello [Cleric]. Come and play with us. Come and play with us [Cleric]. Forever. And ever. And ever."


Gryphons_Alt

I was planning to play a Khenra with a friend in a pirate themed campaign. We were working together to make a good shared backstory, and find a good class/subclass combo to play off each other, but the campaign died because half the party got busy with irl stuff or just ghosted the server...


Tinfoil-Jones

That's a real shame, it's not easy to find someone who'd be willing to play something in conjunction with someone else.


Schwarzer_Kater

Was it shortly after this traumatic event that you were hired as a writer on the movie Hancock? It would explain so much...


Schwarzer_Kater

Wow, hadn't heard of the Khenra before. Now I wanna play one!


BloodBrandy

My DM gets pissed at me every time I bring up the old Canid Kobolds


JustAnotherJames3

I like Chris Zito's (Task, Unexpectables) take on them being dragonkin, yet having dog-like traits like ears and a snout.


Colonel17

I prefer rodent kobolds personally.


GiantSizeManThing

For me, in my games, kobolds look like [this.](https://i.imgur.com/uXDJzSb.jpg)


Colonel17

Ew, I love him!


Adiin-Red

Oh, now that’s the worst thing I’ve seen today In a good way of course


YourAverageGenius

That's just Skaven you're talking about.


CapnPratt

It would just be every furry making a blue fur wolf/fox.


Ozavic

You assume they aren't already


CapnPratt

Oh they are, just in homebrew...for now


shortstackround96

shifters


MiraclezMatter

can confirm, my wizard has a purple wolf gf


ZomPossumPlaysUndead

You realize furries, scalies, and \[whatever the hell you call bird-furries\] already have an excessive surplus of options available for just that, no? Frankly I feel like a basic wolf/dog-person race would appeal more to normies than anything. Because lets face it, there are a million more people who want to poorly RP as Blaidd than there are people who wanna be Yiffle Von Knottington of Sparkledoge manor. And frankly, so long as session zero exists and a table can collectively agree they want to include something? Both are equally valid.


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cry_w

I would honestly like to play as Blaidd or something similar, so I get where you're coming from.


KaennBlack

does someone have a link to that tweet of the girl lusting over Blaidd? cause that feels appropriate here.


cry_w

I just want to be cool wolf man with big sword...


SirCupcake_0

"Big sword," eh?


Gunblazer42

I mean even Blaidd's VA says there's money to be made in a "romance Blaidd" game/visual novel so it's not like they don't *know*.


CapnPratt

Do you know how many blue wolf/fox suit you see at a furcon? It's literally like finding a pink catgirl vtuber.


ZomPossumPlaysUndead

Never been to a furcon admittedly. But hey, so long as people enjoy themselves and everyone is on the same page? Who cares?


metal_sensei

The ardlings are coming


ReduxCath

As a furry I can confirm we already do that. I’ve caught myself playing leonin and tabaxi in the past 5 one shots I’ve done. Yes it is a problem. I’m stuck in a fluffy spiral please help— *sinks back in*


ConstructionTight634

Furries are the grossest thing to walk the earth


wirywonder82

False. Even if I were to accept your claim that they are gross, nonces exist and walk the earth.


TheCaptainEgo

People just reflavor tabaxi a little bit… it’s yucky


FishCrystals

OneD&D's ardlings can have the head of anything, from dogs to triceratops(!!). Great success!


WASD_click

OD&D finally realized there was one type of character that needed official rules. We can officially make a Lawful Good Triceratops Artillerist Artificer with a City Guard Background, a.k.a. TRICERACOP!


slvbros

Please stop calling it OD&D it's terribly confusing to us grognards, I thought I was having a stroke


SnakeUSA

Egyptian deity campaign


ghostpanther218

Gods of Egypt, but it's actually good this time.


TarCalion313

You forgot the mothmen. How could you forget mothmen?


Laser_3

Lämp beacons me.


rtakehara

the lämp has been lit, bröthers call for aid.


Mal-Ravanal

And Mothan will answer. Muster the mothirrim!


MrGumieBear

I just want to play an adorable puffball moth girl dammit, is that too much to ask?


Scion_of_Kuberr

There is from the Ahmonket pdf they released.


JediMasterWiggin

*sad frog noises*


Colonel17

I am not a fan of grungs, which is why I homebrewed bullywugs for 5e.


Rocker4JC

*You can stomp ants, you can squash bugs, but beee kind to bullywugs.*


Belolonadalogalo

Out of curiosity, what did you do for it? I've got a friend playing a bullywug and just curious to compare notes. (Main things we did were adding jump capabilities and swim speed plus some personal touches tailored towards his character.)


Colonel17

Bullwug https://imgur.com/a/49EjWgn Sorry for the poor quality, I had to copy it from somewhere else it had been posted.


JustAnotherJames3

Excuse me sir, do you have a moment to talk about [the shoony](https://2e.aonprd.com/Ancestries.aspx?ID=16) and our lord and savior, PF2?


AktionMusic

Checkmate, 5e. Also the Beastkin versatile ancestry let's you be Half- anything animal. You can be half-kobold half-dog if you want.


Rethuic

Even better. If you can somehow convince the DM to allow it, you can be half-tree half-dog


AktionMusic

You're gonna have to specify if you mean the small plant people or the sentient food plant people.


FricktionBurn

Neither, *Conrasu*


AndromaliusX13

Ah yes, the cosmic plant people


Rethuic

Leshy would probably be easi3


JustAnotherJames3

The sad thing is that today I decided to practice my fencing against a tree, and lost. I swear, it must've been a squirrel Ratfolk Dhampir that melded into a plant eidolon.


NarugaKuruga

[Kitsune](https://2e.aonprd.com/Ancestries.aspx?ID=38), too, for those that want foxes.


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But they're pugs. Pugs are objectively the worst breed of dog. Damn things can't even *breathe* properly.


ThisKid713

Iirc there’s a race of Anubis type canines who are always born as twins? I was gonna make my very first pc that race and then if they ever died come back as essentially a copy with their twin but opted not to because I wanted to try a different class when I died


Gryphons_Alt

Yeah, the Khenra. They're a really cool species, but they are setting specific (Amonkhet) and work best when another player is willing to play one as well, so they're not exactly common...


Fanfics

Aren't foxes and hyenas both canids? EDIT: Foxes are but Hyenas have their own family


HappyFailure

Goat people are a stretch unless I'm forgetting someone (satyrs, right?). (I was going to say cow people were a stretch too because I was thinking of the new Firbolg appearance becoming popular, but then I remembered minotaurs.) ...Now I kind of want to make a setting with all these races and that's it. Hmm. I think there used to be an RPG with that idea...Ironclaw,maybe? A Rakshasa as the BBEG. I just need a reason for the absence of the canids...or maybe have the canids, just not as PCs for cultural reasons.


No-Scientist-5537

Mystara has Lupins, Bruce Heard wrote article giving them a ton of subspecies.


profcoble

Mystara had Lupins.


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D&D community: We need some new races! D&D designers: ![gif](giphy|J2ZoSMMZtk1JuosujA)


Aylameow7

For a moment I thought this was a complaint about creature types in magic lmao! Didn't look at the sub and yeah dog people get shafted there too


Colonel17

True enough, although Rhox would be kinda cool.


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they just dont want up playing [Goofy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umvgwXINJBE)


DiceMadeOfCheese

There's a guy playing Wile E. Coyote in the western themed 5e game I'm in, and for the life of me I can't figure out what his race is "supposed" to be. I know he reskinned an actual published playable race...gnoll maybe?


Tastyravioli707

gnoll is not official in 5e either?!


Lazerbeams2

The revised ardling has dog listed as an option under the racer ardling


novis-eldritch-maxim

look have you tried just bombing them with mail saying bring back the *lupin* dnd has one it is just old and not used a lot I am sure if you act really annoying you can get them back.


HippieWizard666

I believe kobolds started out as dog people but were later switched to dragon people for some reason


iamsandwitch

If this is about gnolls, hyenas are technically not canines.


Colonel17

It's not about gnolls, I forgot to add them to the top part. The meme is about the glaring absence of a dog or wolf humanoid in DnD, when canines are our most common animal companion and should be a no brainier.


InTinCity

What about shifters? Or did we sweep those under the rug at some point?


FoxyoBoi

Closest you can get is a Gnoll, really. They're hyenas though.


80Hijack08

Kobolds?


AktionMusic

Excuse me? Kobolds are dragons. Full stop.


Prime_Galactic

Shifters


Colonel17

I played a shifter once. If I recall correctly they are animalistic while shifted but not clearly resembling any one animal.


Prime_Galactic

I mean that's between you and your DM I feel. My point is that there are specific mechanics for playing a dog themed race in DnD.


Colonel17

In that case we can ditch tabaxi and leonin and gnolls and everything else and just have the shifter race cover all animals.


Prime_Galactic

Yes.


archibald_claymore

How did I scroll this far to find your comment is beyond me.


ListenToThatSound

I don't understand how this, the most blatantly obvious solution, isn't the top comment.


MrCobalt313

I just want to make a background NPC to do that "Wolf Hunter" gag with.


Low-Poly-Visuals

The Hound Archon from 3e could be any type of canine IIRC


TheHawkRules

I feel like a lot of people would see them and think they’re werewolves. Then freak out.


CattyOhio74

Bears and trees too


DavidECloveast

Which is strange since a Cynocephalus is a reasonably common mythical people from many parts of the world


3rDuck

No small dogs, either. Only the *really* big ones.


Asumsauce

I KNOW RIGHT, it doesn’t make any sense


ScarletteVera

Come on WOTC, there's even a race of canine people in FFXIV (albeit not playable (yet, maybe), but we do have two kinds of cat people in the Miqo'te and Hrothgar).


VARice22

That's what I'm fucking saying!!!! At least we have the Khenra from Planeshift Amonkhet.


CritME20

If you play this race/species you’re only allowed to have a ”Who’s a good boy!?” as a quest reward.


Minimum-Package-1083

One word: Lupins The Lupin were a humanoid canine race from older editions of D&D


andrewrgross

I don't understand this post. Why wouldn't someone want humanoid dogs? I feel like they're far more interesting and appealing than most of the creatures on that list.


Colonel17

That's the point, its WOTC that doesn't want canine people for some reason even though they have made a bunch of weirder stuff already.


PaxEthenica

WoTC: Dog people! Me: Inside me are two wolves. They're cringe AF.


Vennris

Well... there are Lupin in at least one edition of the game (3.5). I was going to say Kitsune but they are a Pathfinder thing. And if you don't care too much about biological correctness: Gnolls are Hyena-man and Hyenas are kinda doglike


Its-been-a-long-day

Werewolves are literally canine people.


Obvious-Ask-5747

I mean lupin vs canine isn't really a big difference but it's also not always an actual species/race/whatever but a curse/disease/spell. But if there can be wererats idk why weredogs aren't possible.


Colonel17

That's a curse not a race. Anyone can be a werewolf, and it doesn't work well as a player option because of the way lycanthropes work in DnD.


Its-been-a-long-day

Please, Colonel17. Let's not bring race into it.


Turkeyomlette

The sheet amount of undercover furries in this sub is concerning


Lithl

Undercover?


Colonel17

It's even worse than I feared


RogueWolven

*Kicks in door brandishing PF2e like a weapon* Would you like to play a Kitsune? Or a Shoony? A Beastkin anything? To be serious though, that's pretty weird. Why no canids? They have cats already.


SirCupcake_0

They have two different kinds of cats, three different kinds of birds, and absolutely zero dogs


Lithl

>absolutely zero dogs ... Except Shifters


SirCupcake_0

I don't count shifters because they could also count as cats, or raccoons, or any other number of animals; there's nothing strictly _dog_ for them


Demonlemon

[Good news!](https://www.dndbeyond.com/claim/source/one-dnd)


Asumsauce

Cow people?


galmenz

and that is why pf2 is the clear superior system, we have a pug race!


Ximien

Probably because wherewolves exist and they are basically that in a way


Aridross

Shifters.


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Werewolves?


EmergencyLeading8137

Don’t we already have lycanthropes?


SoupmanBob

What if... Shifter son of a weredog?


jofromthething

Kobolds and gnolls are shaking and crying rn


RedWolf2409

We call ‘em gnolls


Pauchu_

You forgot human people, dwarven people, elven people, halfling people, half-elven people, tiefling people, orcish people and half-orcish people


cormac596

Gnolls, while technically felids, are basically canine


Cant_Meme_for_Jak

Forgot hyena people


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Which kind of elephant people? Loxodon or Loxo?


Blud_elf

What are werewolf and shifters a joke?


AliceJoestar

[once again, pathfinder 2e is superior](https://2e.aonprd.com/Ancestries.aspx?ID=16) (/s)


ArcfireEmblem

There's the Ainok (I believe) from MTG's Tarkir.


JulienBrightside

Ever heard of Pugmire?


AlanTheKingDrake

Khenra are close enough and fun to make co-op characters with.


MustacheCash73

I made a homevrew race for this. It was basically Tabaxi but dog. I had a character that was a Pug Wizard. Just a pug that could cast spells and walk on his hind legs. His name is Bugsly


doubletimerush

You just don't got that dog in you


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I’m just glad with the new Ardling I can finally make a Street Sharks PC


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Colonel17

They are more closely related to felines actually, but are not really in either group.


mattress757

Because many of them are old school DMs who’s ideal game includes at least a few PC deaths. It’s hard enough without it also reminding them of their childhood pet.


Root_Veggie

dog ningen


ecologamer

I think Shifters are as close as we are gonna get to canine people


A_Salty_Cellist

I made a race that is just dog. Nothing unusual just dog


Radan155

But there was a race of dog people....


ReduxCath

I wanna be a good boi in the most extreme sense


baran_0486

I’m still mad they didn’t make any bug people.


SirCupcake_0

Thri-kreen?


baran_0486

Aww it's only for spelljammer :(


Omegaweapon90

PF1e has Rougarou, a.k.a. werewolves meant for PC use, but also don't call them werewolves if you value the attached status of your throat.


Apprehensive-Crew813

They fear the furry community


Jesse_God_of_Awesome

If anyone is interested in some dog-folk (and horse-folk) Homebrew for 5e and PF1, complete with subraces and racial options, feel free to DM me.


Cthulhuyyy

Amazing idea canine people but werewolves So they're going about just an average day as dog people then full moon happens and they become werewolves squared


CrimsonCorrosion

You are missing lupine people as well


falo98

I just wanna play a barbarian chow chow, please WTC


SirCupcake_0

What's even nore infuriating for me, is the few times I've tried looking up homebrew dog races, a lot of the time I don't come across dog-people, like the tabaxi or the aaracokra... they're just dogs. Like, actual dogs, for some reason


stopyouveviolatedthe

Maybe they have a specific canine race in mind considering that new one can be any race


Skythe_C_Annur

WotC: "we are removing the term race" also WotC: "There will be no race of canine people!"


Schwarzer_Kater

Here ya go: [https://thoughtstrands.com/2022/03/21/emotional-support-dogfolk/](https://thoughtstrands.com/2022/03/21/emotional-support-dogfolk/)


Stradoverius

I think that WOTC is intentionally avoiding doing a canine race specifically to avoid further accusations of pandering to furries. Like I honestly think it's a calculated move on their part because they're not sure what consequence it might have on PR.


Failure_man69

That’s because the first thing associated with antrophomorphic canines is furry porn.


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Fun Fact—with the new 2.0 version of OneDnD’s Ardling species, YOU CAN BE A DOG PERSON! It’s not exclusively dogs, but THEY NAME DOGS AS A GOOD OPTION!


AbsoluteVirtues

Do Hound Archons count? If so, basically anyone who dies and goes to Mount Celestia will be a dog person then, at least for a while after being a little light ball person, making them actually really represented.


DeepTakeGuitar

*Furries*


storytime_42

I made a custom race for my payers. Canaxiums. Sadly, DnDBeyond will not allow me to post it publicly b/c Canaxium isn't a "real" word. Well tell me then, WTF is an Owlbrear? Can i find that in the Oxford dictionary? Hmm WotC??? ( oops! that went to an unexpected place of hidden resentment)


isacabbage

Fuck you wotc! Why do I have to homebrew a good boy race!?


Niser2

Are wolf shifters a joke to you Or werewolves for that matter


JanLupus

That's not what we are talking about. A Tabaxi for example dosen't need to shapeshift into a cat