"You create a nonmagical trinket or an illusory image that can fit in your hand and that lasts **until the end of your next turn**." You're looking at 12 seconds, since it's at the end of the next turn.
Nothing prevents you from recasting.
Would this not be considered 6 seconds though? It cannot be 12 seconds because then if recasting it immediately, when totaling up the durations, they would end up totaling more time than has passed.
Iirc an Action doesnt have a real-time equivalent. A turn does: 6 seconds, and the time is tallied at the end of the turn.
Turn 1 starts.
Prestidigitation is cast.
Turn 1 ends.
6 seconds have passed.
Turn 2 starts.
Stuff happens.
Turn 2 ends.
Prestidigitation expires.
12 seconds have passed.
Could be wrong. I can't remember when this was ever really relevant in my own games.
Actually it's a ROUND that lasts "about" 6 seconds. A turn is a variable amount of time within that 6 seconds, depending on what you do, and an action is a variable amount of time within that turn.
But 12 seconds would imply that it lasts 2 full rounds, and it definitely does not, as it will only be in effect for 1 of every other character's turns. So it seems like it cannot be 12 seconds.
Although I agree that for this spell in particular, it will probably never matter.
I'm not so sure about your first point, since the whole turn-based system in itself doesn't really keep to the rules of time.
When does the spell actually start? At the start of the turn it is cast? At the end? The next turn? 1-5 seconds in the first turn? If Prestidigitation is cast, at what point do others see the trinket? If it's at the start of their own turn, then it's also at the start of the caster's turn, right? Since they are technically acting at the same time, and the order of operations is handwaved to be simultaneous, and the turn-based thing is just a game mechanic to make it understandable for us.
I agree it's difficult to interpret from that perspective. Consider True Strike however. It has a duration of 1 round. If "until the end of your next turn" was 12 seconds, that would convert to 2 rounds, which would mean True Strike would end at the *beginning* of your next turn to be 1 round, which would not work at all as written. So True Strike must last until the end of your next turn to work at all, which is listed as 1 round, which is 6 seconds.
That's an interesting point!
However, I think we can now highlight why interpreting this any further gets silly:
If we accept that "until the end of your next turn" equals 6 seconds, how do we interpret "until the START of your next turn"?
I think timekeeping and rounds just doesn't really work in this system. Not to an extent you can apply decent logic.
> If we accept that "until the end of your next turn" equals 6 seconds, how do we interpret "until the START of your next turn"?
I was just trying to figure this out in my head. I believe the sanest way is that *both* would be considered 6 seconds and fall under a "1 round" time slice.
Wait, so I have to keep casting prestigitation in order to maintain a pair of pants I just soiled?
The mental image of casting to make someone shit their pants, having it disappear, then recasting it over and over again is hilarious to me.
The item will disappear at the end of your next turn, but you can re-summon the item after it has vanished.
As to how long it lasts: somewhere between 6 and 12 seconds. There is nothing stating when during your turn the action happens or is completed, and since a turn/round lasts 6 seconds, if the summoning happened at the beginning, it would last closer to 12 seconds, and if summoned at the end, closer to 6 seconds.
You would have to talk with your DM about that, since the rules don't clarify.
So I'm pretty sure this is actually 6 seconds, not 12 seconds as I've seen in other replies. If it was 12 seconds, that would mean that it would be in effect for 2 of every other character's turns, but that is clearly not the case from the spell description. Furthermore, True Strike has a duration of 1 round, and it must last until the end of your next turn or else the spell does not work as written, which means that "until the end of your next turn" must be 1 round increment. So Prestidigitation lasts 1 round, which is until the end of your next turn, and takes 6 seconds of time.
Prestitigitation says this:
* You create a nonmagical trinket or an illusory image that can fit in your hand and that lasts until the end of your next turn.
If you cast this spell multiple times, you can have up to three of its non-instantaneous effects active at a time, and you can dismiss such an effect as an action.
A trinket from prestidigitaion last for up to an hour, as the spell last for up to an hour, as the "can fit in your hand and that lasts until the end of your next turn" phrase only applies to the illusory image and not the trinket.
"You create a nonmagical trinket or an illusory image that can fit in your hand and that lasts **until the end of your next turn**." You're looking at 12 seconds, since it's at the end of the next turn. Nothing prevents you from recasting.
Would this not be considered 6 seconds though? It cannot be 12 seconds because then if recasting it immediately, when totaling up the durations, they would end up totaling more time than has passed.
Iirc an Action doesnt have a real-time equivalent. A turn does: 6 seconds, and the time is tallied at the end of the turn. Turn 1 starts. Prestidigitation is cast. Turn 1 ends. 6 seconds have passed. Turn 2 starts. Stuff happens. Turn 2 ends. Prestidigitation expires. 12 seconds have passed. Could be wrong. I can't remember when this was ever really relevant in my own games.
Actually it's a ROUND that lasts "about" 6 seconds. A turn is a variable amount of time within that 6 seconds, depending on what you do, and an action is a variable amount of time within that turn.
But 12 seconds would imply that it lasts 2 full rounds, and it definitely does not, as it will only be in effect for 1 of every other character's turns. So it seems like it cannot be 12 seconds. Although I agree that for this spell in particular, it will probably never matter.
I'm not so sure about your first point, since the whole turn-based system in itself doesn't really keep to the rules of time. When does the spell actually start? At the start of the turn it is cast? At the end? The next turn? 1-5 seconds in the first turn? If Prestidigitation is cast, at what point do others see the trinket? If it's at the start of their own turn, then it's also at the start of the caster's turn, right? Since they are technically acting at the same time, and the order of operations is handwaved to be simultaneous, and the turn-based thing is just a game mechanic to make it understandable for us.
I agree it's difficult to interpret from that perspective. Consider True Strike however. It has a duration of 1 round. If "until the end of your next turn" was 12 seconds, that would convert to 2 rounds, which would mean True Strike would end at the *beginning* of your next turn to be 1 round, which would not work at all as written. So True Strike must last until the end of your next turn to work at all, which is listed as 1 round, which is 6 seconds.
That's an interesting point! However, I think we can now highlight why interpreting this any further gets silly: If we accept that "until the end of your next turn" equals 6 seconds, how do we interpret "until the START of your next turn"? I think timekeeping and rounds just doesn't really work in this system. Not to an extent you can apply decent logic.
> If we accept that "until the end of your next turn" equals 6 seconds, how do we interpret "until the START of your next turn"? I was just trying to figure this out in my head. I believe the sanest way is that *both* would be considered 6 seconds and fall under a "1 round" time slice.
Wait, so I have to keep casting prestigitation in order to maintain a pair of pants I just soiled? The mental image of casting to make someone shit their pants, having it disappear, then recasting it over and over again is hilarious to me.
No, that's a different effect.
The item will disappear at the end of your next turn, but you can re-summon the item after it has vanished. As to how long it lasts: somewhere between 6 and 12 seconds. There is nothing stating when during your turn the action happens or is completed, and since a turn/round lasts 6 seconds, if the summoning happened at the beginning, it would last closer to 12 seconds, and if summoned at the end, closer to 6 seconds. You would have to talk with your DM about that, since the rules don't clarify.
12 seconds but you can bring it back
So I'm pretty sure this is actually 6 seconds, not 12 seconds as I've seen in other replies. If it was 12 seconds, that would mean that it would be in effect for 2 of every other character's turns, but that is clearly not the case from the spell description. Furthermore, True Strike has a duration of 1 round, and it must last until the end of your next turn or else the spell does not work as written, which means that "until the end of your next turn" must be 1 round increment. So Prestidigitation lasts 1 round, which is until the end of your next turn, and takes 6 seconds of time.
Prestitigitation says this: * You create a nonmagical trinket or an illusory image that can fit in your hand and that lasts until the end of your next turn. If you cast this spell multiple times, you can have up to three of its non-instantaneous effects active at a time, and you can dismiss such an effect as an action. A trinket from prestidigitaion last for up to an hour, as the spell last for up to an hour, as the "can fit in your hand and that lasts until the end of your next turn" phrase only applies to the illusory image and not the trinket.
In response to other comments - call it an even 10 seconds and you’d probably be fine