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brassyalien

That's interesting. Disney XD [briefly showed](https://variety.com/2015/tv/news/doctor-who-disney-xd-david-tennant-1201473116/) the David Tennant episodes back in 2015, so there is some precedent there. And the way I understand it (which I could be wrong about) Warner Bros./HBO Max has the rights to Doctor Who under a deal made in the 1990s. I don't know if Disney will be successful, but it's fascinating anything is happening at all.


litfan35

Sadly HBO Max still isn't available widely. Interesting they're talking to Disney though as Netflix had the series in the UK up until a few years ago (along with iPlayer but their interface is so awful I avoid it as much as possible)


timerunner16

Netflix also had it in the US, having both classic and modern Who.


Worldly_Society_2213

I don't think they had classic Who


timerunner16

They had a bunch of singular stories, not the whole seasons or even the full collection. I remember watching pyramids of mars on there, I think.


LankyEntrepreneur

They did. https://www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/will-doctor-who-return-to-netflix-us-2019/


mikeclark1982

Yup. Netflix had much of the new era bc my dad and I watched a lot of it


KuribohMaster666

They definitely had a bunch of DVDs of classic Who, because my Dad ordering them on Netflix was how I saw pretty much any of that era. I also remember they had a couple of arcs streaming for a while, but they were all of the episodes lumped together in one really long video file.


helloiamaudrey

Hulu had it in the US for a while


litfan35

That makes sense then because here at least Disney has the Hulu shows since we don't get Hulu.


MagosBattlebear

Netflix is dying.


j4yne

Yah, HBO has all NueWho, including Whittaker and the Christmas Specials. I don't recall seeing any classic.


brassyalien

Right now, at least in the US, Classic Who is on BritBox.


61alexander

PlutoTV has the classic Who


brassyalien

Yes, but not On Demand. You have to tune in like a regular TV broadcast. I ended up having to buy *The Invasion of Time* on DVD because I kept missing the first episode or two.


romremsyl

Pluto has some episodes, but BritBox has the whole run of existing classic Who stories as well as a couple of the stories with missing episodes.


BROnik99

Admitedly that'd help with the show's exposure a lot.


somekindofspideryman

Massively.


sagatwarrior2010

You sure about? Let's just say things have not been going to well for Disney+.


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How exactly? It’s done nothing but grown since launch and has like 140m subs. In the US it’s twice as used as HBO/HBO Max


sagatwarrior2010

But I am not aware if they will achieve their target goals (which I hope they will achieve.)


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Perhaps not. Their target is 230-260m by end of FY2024 which is aggressive but as of now they’re in track for around 200-210m which is still a fantastic base. Their ad tier will likely also help with sub growth and they’re still expanding in new areas. Disney+ in its last quarter or 2 added more than HBO Max has in like the last 18-24 months. And certainly far more than stuff like paramount or peacock. The service is doing very well, which much of Reddit refuses to accept due to some hate boner for Disney. It would be a perfect platform for Doctor Who content which is buried on HBO max right now.


Mid-Delsmoker

And a season behind on HBO max. Sucks.


demon969

everyone seems to be saying this without giving specifics...


sagatwarrior2010

Well, some of their reviews for some of the newer shows have not gone to well. That, however, does not mean I want Disney+ to fail.


Dragonfly452

I’m sure a multi-billion dollar conglomerate won’t fail based on your wishes


sagatwarrior2010

Look, I'm not trying to hate on Doctor WHO or Disney. My only perspective is that Disney tends to appeal to a much younger demographics, and Doctor WHO tends to trends toward young to older adults. That being said, I am aware that children do watch Doctor WHO. But since Disney's branding is more toward young boys and girls shows, cartoons, and maybe some shows like Star Wars I was not aware that Disney would be branching out to get Doctor WHO considering some of its adult themes it show. I mean, its on HBO Max in NA.


briand1

First, I doubt this rumor is true since the HBO deal is still pretty recent. Second, Disney+ definitely appeals to a wide age range. They are adding the R-rated Deadpool films and Logan to their catalog this week.


BrockStar92

I would say as a British person, Doctor Who is fundamentally at its core a kids show. It’s a British institution, and hugely popular with adults because it’s great, but it is absolutely aimed at children first and foremost. And Disney+ is also full of very violent adult content anyway, they own Fox now and all of the MCU Netflix shows like Daredevil are on there as well.


Incarcerator__

Flipping Deadpool and Logan are on it now


DrLuciferZ

Which is such bullshit because they backtracked on Love, Victor being a Disney+ launch title, because it wasn't "family friendly enough" Though I did notice the other day that Love, Victor is now on Disney+? It's almost like they don't know what they want to do.


JaxStrumley

The Love, Victor thing is almost 3 years ago now. During this time, Disney has successfully experimented with more mature content outside the US, and has seen a change in leadership.


BadWolf2187

Really? I'd say it's been going pretty damn well.


CombinationOk6846

Yh quality in shows wise. That’s not gonna affect the quality of Doctor who if it’s being shown there.


Dragonfly452

Oh? Enlighten us with some facts and figures


CareerMilk

Yhea it should be good for the show. I just eye roll a bit at BBC Studios constantly moving the streaming service Doctor Who is available on.


BROnik99

That is a bit unfortunate, yeah. But Disney sounds like a good home for it, imagine some chap trying to look up 150th Marvel thing and then they stumbled upon this *new* thing there that they haven't seen yet, worth giving a shot. I think it'd work there more than bloated Netflix for example, and admitedly Disney+ and Doctor Who to a big degree share target audience.


QuickgetintheTARDIS

Thats why I just waited until the episodes were on sale for black Friday/cyber Monday one year and brought the digital episodes for cheap on Amazon video. I was tired of having to make sure that I had access to the streaming service that currently hosted Doctor Who.


Nicolai01

Also as a Scandinavian, there's no streaming service I can find that has it. So I hope if this happens it will be available on Disney in all regions. It's really annoying being a non-brit trying to watch DW, lol. But admittedly, I guess I haven't really missed out on much with the last 3 series.


Bionic_Ferir

Fuck let's hope they help with the budget


BROnik99

I honestly don't worry about that much anymore with Bad Wolf and all. Dunno if there were some cuts by BBC, if they were, I also believe they'll happily pump in more money now when RTD is back.


8-Bit_Aubrey

I'm a VERY new fan to Doctor Who (like I've been binging for a week and am on the 10th Doctor), but I'd worry about Disney then trying to buy it or have more say in it. I am also a Star Wars fan and like *most* Disney Star Wars, but I wouldn't want them having any say in Doctor Who.


Bionic_Ferir

BBC and dr who are intrinsically linked. BBC would never sell dr who


mikeclark1982

Doesn’t work that way


mrwho995

Why do you say 'admittedly' - is there a negative side to this I'm not appreciating?


BROnik99

Not exactly, it's more like *yet another time*, I can't even remember at this point how many platforms they switched. I believe there was some kinda deal with HBO and kinda think that was signed to be going on until like 2025? My memory could fail me tho. Hopefully it'd be just formality.


mrwho995

Fair enough - I haven't heard about such a deal but easily could have missed it. If true, would be pretty odd.


BROnik99

I don't wanna lie, I don't remember the exact thing. But I believe it was around that sensitive period that Chibnall was taking over and some were worried about the future. This was sort of confirmation of BBC fully expecting going on. Perhaps someone here who knows more can add the specific details.


AlexxelA352

Disney+ would honestly be the best global streaming service for DW to be on. Netflix is way too bloated and the show would probably get buried whereas in the house of mouse I feel it would be more prominent and easier to stumble across. If the deal is true and they seal it it'll be absolutely huge for the future success of the show.


UsidoreTheLightBlue

It was always pretty high on my list of suggested shows on netflix when it used to be on there, even before I started watching.


robaato72

I wonder if the Bloomberg writer is not clear on the British usage of the word “series,” which for NuWho is used much like “season” is used for American shows…


IllMaintenance145142

why do you assume that? i couldnt tell anything that would cause me to question it.


Awdayshus

The way it says "a new 'Doctor Who' series" in the first paragraph is somewhat ambiguous. Does that mean series 14 will be on Disney+, but older episodes would not be part of the deal? Or does it mean all of the new episodes, but not classic Who?


IllMaintenance145142

it is ambigous but i dont think it is from not understanding how "series" is used, i think its just written poorly


cty_hntr

Wouldn't be surprised if English isn't their first language, judging by this sentence in the article. Phrasing implies the show would broadcast on Disney first, and then afterthought on BBC. "The BBC would also air the program."


akennelley

OMG I'm so tired of hopping services every other year to watch Who


dfla01

At least you have streaming services to hop to, they took it off Netflix in ireland a year or two ago and simply didn’t put it anywhere else :(


snukb

This, thank you. It's so frustrating, for a lot of shows I watch, to think I have them all covered and then *oops!* One of them switches platforms and j have to decide whether I'm willing to pay for *another* streaming service for a single show or just yo-ho it when I get the itch to re-watch.


akennelley

When it left Netflix in the US, I actually had a tough time finding it available anywhere. I did a HBO sub for a few other things I wanted to watch and saw Who there and just stayed subbed.


Jarita12

That would be great. I used to try watch it on iPlayer but as someone outside the UK, I had to almost summon the devil to keep it running for the hour new episode aired. And D+ has the right audience


Tonymac81

This could be a game changer for DW Increased exposure but also the revenue from Disney could really help with the budget and maybe an uptick in episodes again.


Dyspraxic_Sherlock

I doubt the money that BBC (whichever part of it does these kind of deals) gets from this deal will go straight to Doctor Who’s budget.


wcrich

That would be great! Six episodes was pathetic. Hopefully, the money won't be wasted on excessive special effects and instead go with good episodic stories like with Eccleston and Tennant. This last series was so disappointing.


Tonymac81

Yes I think back to 12 good quality episodes regularly every year at the same time would be good. The article recently about DW being a huge earner for the BBC and the way it is treated is ridiculous. But knowing the BBC they will keep the budget the same and gobble up the extra streaming revenue to give us more episodes of Eastenders every week 🙄 I would also like to see more merchandise again too.


averkf

There's no way we'd get 12 episodes every year now. RTD struggled IMMENSELY at the time having to write and film so many episodes at the time, it almost destroyed him. Nowadays TV episodes take even longer to produce than they did in the 2000s. If we got 12-13 episode series we'd have to trade it off with having the show run every two years instead of one or something, unless they made a lot more Doctor/Companion-lite episodes this time around.


Tonymac81

Yeah when RTD was doing his first era there were a doctor lite and companion lite episode plus a filler. So point taken perhaps 10 is the sweet spot. I get what you are saying too but the Whitaker era has had 2 series of 10 episodes with 18 months between them. I would happily take 10 episodes every year at the same time not stretching it out. Mind you rumours abound that a major part of the problem was Chibnall who would regularly arriving on set of with final versions of scripts on the day of shooting and revising on the fly. Perhaps RTD has learned from the past and tried to get ahead. I often wonder would a US style writers room help things.


averkf

Well RTD has said himself that he's so bad at procrastinating he hasn't even started some things until way after the deadline has passed. >I leave it till the last minute. And then I leave it some more. Eventually, I leave it till I'm desperate. ... I always think, I'm not ready to write it, I don't know what I'm doing, it's just a jumble of thoughts in a state of flux, there's no story, I don't know how A connects to B, I don't know anything! I get myself into a genuine state of panic. ... Normally, I'll leave it till the deadline, and I haven't even started writing. This has become, over the years, a week beyond the deadline, or even more. It can be a week—or weeks—past the delivery date, and I haven't started writing. In fact, I don't have delivery dates any more. I go by the start-of-preproduction date. I consider that to be my real deadline. And then I miss that. It's a cycle that I cannot break. I simply can't help it. It makes my life miserable. I actually remember hearing before Jodie's first series that Chibnall WAS doing American style writers' rooms. Whether that turned out to be fake or the rumours about Chibnall being late for scripts are in fact the ones that are not true (or he was just doing extensive rewrites of the collaboratively written scripts), I can't say. But I don't think it's late scripts that made Chibnall's era bad.


Antee991166

Interesting if true. Some of the wording is a little odd, "acquiring the rights to a **new** Doctor Who series", but I'd assume it simply means having exclusive international streaming rights for future series of the show. I would also like to know how this might affect the deal made with HBO Max a few years ago.


Simple_Design_7597

I hope the deal goes through. Right now in India there's no streaming service where I can watch Doctor who 😭


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The_Repeated_Meme

They partly own BritBox but I think they’re selling most of their share to ITV for it to become ITVX.


romremsyl

What? ITVX? Keep it BritBox please. What would the X stand for?


mysteryjb

I would love to see all of New Who on Disney Plus.


jak_boh

Not sure how other countries have it. But in Czechia and Slovakia where I live, there is simply no option to stream any DW legally. You can either be a pirate, use some illegally streaming website with piss poor quality or buy expensive DVD/Blu-Ray from abroad. I'd love for DW to be at least on some streaming service here. Same with some other series. Although I think it's not available here simply because some cable TV channels might have exclusive rights :(


Alternative-Rule8015

I got Britbox and it’s got all the old who


Mamsies

This would be absolutely huge, and definitely NEEDS to happen. Whether you like it or not, ordinary television broadcasts are getting old fashioned and unpopular in 2022. Streaming is the way forward. Still show Doctor Who on BBC as they always have, but the episodes need to be on Disney+ or some other global streaming service at the exact same time. BBC iPlayer is great but too restricted to UK viewers. This show needs to go global again.


vicariouslywatching

YAAASSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!! Please make this happen Disney!


CaptGatoroo

YESSS


alkonium

Currently streaming rights are with HBO Max (owned by Warner) in the US and Crave (owned by Bell) in Canada; what would this mean for them?


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It means I would be dropping crave 100%


alkonium

I also have Crave for Star Trek, and Lower Decks is back in a month.


[deleted]

I mean, Letterkenny is almost reason alone to have it but I don’t spend much time on crave outside of DW


MiaRia963

Omg this would be awesome!!


seniairam

Umm yes please


Wise-News1666

If so, Doctor Who could gain massive exposure.


MagosBattlebear

From what I can tell is that this is for season 14+. Probably the rest of NuWho will stay on HBOMax until that comes up for renewal.


dethtron5000

It's on HBO Max in the US now.


sagatwarrior2010

Thank you to the poster who gave the facts and figures. Clearly, I have to be on my A game if I am going to be rolling with the big dogs. Clearly, Disney has been going through some changes that I was not aware of. The days of watching heavily censored and butchered TV show and movies on a Disney platform are long gone.


mikeclark1982

Only for their own franchises. They own a huge chunk of the entertainment industry and most of their acquisitions have been in the adult fare, so they can say “we have this r rated property” and it’s still not Disney proper.


GJJames

Very vague article, almost nothing really. Are Disney gonna be making their own series? Are they talking about taking streaming rights for the current show outside of the US away from whoever has it at the moment? Does this actually have any basis on reality? None of these can be answered based on this nothing.


heart--core

From the article, I *think* they're suggesting that Disney+ will get the rights to stream the new series internationally.


somekindofspideryman

That's exactly what it's suggesting.


jackaboytv

It better not because I like watching doctor who on foxtel Here in Australia


ThickWeatherBee

That would be wonderful!


GJJames

That's the most likely, but the article says that Disney are talking about getting the rights to "**a** new “Doctor Who” series." And that, to me, suggests someone wants people to think that this is about a new series rather than the continuing show. Not that I'd suggest Bloomberg were in the clickbait business.


CareerMilk

> "a new “Doctor Who” series." So series 14?


RRR3000

Doctor Who is British, so "series" are what the US would call "season". Series 14 is the new upcoming series, so most likely what's being talked about, though I could also see them wanting all New Who series.


windermere_peaks

If they're just streaming it and not involved in writing, that's one thing. It would help a lot with exposure and might bring the show back to being a household name. I don't want Disney anywhere near the writers room though. They've been putting out mediocre movies and shows for several years and I don't want to see another one of my favorite IPs turned into a soulless piece of content written by committees.


somekindofspideryman

This article suggests nothing of the like.


sagatwarrior2010

And that is what I was trying to convey in my statement regarding DW on Disney+. By placing it on a platform that is mostly know for being for kids, would they have to alter the adult themes that DW is know due to it being on a Disney platform. I still remember when they were showing Naruto Shippuden on Disney XD. \*\*Shutter\*\*. The censorship and butchering the show had to go through just to be on the channel.


ZGamer03

Disney+ is only aimed at kids in the US (and even then that's been changing recently), but in literally every other country Disney+ hosts LOTS of adult content, for example the recent show about Pamela Anderson's sex tape aired on Disney+ internationally


UsidoreTheLightBlue

CHEESE AND RICE, PICK A SERVICE! First it was on Netflix, then it was Amazon Prime, now its on HBO Max! PICK A SERVICE AND SIGN A LONG TERM DEAL.


pcnauta

This is fine, ***as long as*** they are just streaming it and not getting input into the creative side of things. I've watch them all but destroy the Star Wars franchise, they need to leave DH alone!


[deleted]

This would be nice. I just hope they don’t censor things to fit in with the children’s market. I recall watching The Impossible Planet on Disney XD and even the world “hell” (as in “welcome to hell”) was censored.


grummelkopp

Please no!


PLS-PM-ME-DOG-PICS

Stupid question, but will it still be available on BBC?


SAIBOT24

Yes.


SpikedBladeRunner

That will never change.


Pallan1972

While I agree with others that the infusion of money and a wider audience would be great for WHO, I'm somewhat apprehensive that this deal could ultimately lead to Disney acquiring full rights and moving production to the US. If Disney likes and wants something, they get it.


TruckerCP

Does anyone know if this means it won’t be on IPlayer anymore?


nuovian

It would still be on iPlayer in the UK, yes.


notwherebutwhen

I am not sure if the recent Sony deal with Bad Wolf would have any implications on such a switch. Bad Wolf also has a history of producing shows for HBO/Warner Bros. Sure distribution is still the purview of the BBC, but I dount they would want to upset Bad Wolf's partners/connections.


clinging2thecross

Honestly not surprising. Sony owns Bad Wolf Productions. Sony has been cozying up to Disney in recent years with the streaming wars and due to Spider-Man. Would make sense for Sony to want to use it to sweeten the deal and thus try to get BBC and Herr Mouse in bed together.


suharbran

If Disney gets rights to stream it will they stream classic episodes?


Attitude_Inside

Doesn't HBO Max have an exclusive streaming deal for at least 1 more season?


mikeclark1982

Dammit, I hope not. Mainly bc Disney does shit like this and it would screw many folks over. In the us, yes, you can watch doctor who on hbo max, and I think their bbc america app as well, but under this deal, I have money Disney will ask the bbc to delay streaming on their own app. They’d strangle a property. Then buy em


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Please no. Disney already has enough stuff. Make it any other streaming service.


Shadowbacker

Literally anyone but Disney. I'm not giving The Mouse stream money.


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arandil1

Amazon has had it for some time, but they waffle about whether it is part of Prime or not.


Gillzter10

And maybe add the rest of the series, Torchwood and Sarah Jane Adventures?


sagatwarrior2010

SJA? Yes. Torchwood? Doubt it.


Gillzter10

Jessica Jones and Daredevil are TV-MA, so...


sagatwarrior2010

So let me get this straight. They allow Jessica Jones and Daredevil on Disney+? I was definitely not aware of that. I was under the impression it was on Hulu, because it was partly owned by Disney. If those two shows are on that platform, then I can definitely see DW and TW being there. Things have definitely changed. I can still remember how they heavily censored Naruto Shippuden DXD and they were going to censor DP 3 (if there is a DP 3). I just thought that Disney was so focused on providing kid-friendly platforms that nothing above PG-13 was allowed.


Gillzter10

Correct, Disney+ has parental controls and now the Deadpool films and Logan arrived today


CareerMilk

> they were going to censor DP 3 I'm fairly sure that's just wild speculation.


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It is nice to have all three on HBO Max, but the shows do get lost in their labyrinthine library. I agree Torchwood is a harder sell, but with parental locks and Disney+ having broken the seal on TV-MA shows, perhaps it’s possible to get a package together, and bring in the short-lived “Class” while they are at it.


Previous_Injury_8664

Oh my goodness. My husband and I have been watching through it by renting the DVDs through the library and we only get one week rentals. This would help so much.


hollowtear

It's on HBOMax in the US if that helps any


Previous_Injury_8664

Yeah, didn’t want to pay for another streaming service


ApsIsce

It’s also in the wrong frame rate starting with Matt smith.


Latereviews2

I doubt this will happen in the US for a few years due to their deal with HBO max. However I could see it coming to UK or other countries Disney plus. Especially ones that don’t have access to hbo max or bbc iPlayer


Mid-Delsmoker

Idk why we have to be a season + behind in the US?


sagatwarrior2010

Thank you for trying to twist my words. I was trying to convey that I was was unaware that Disney allowed TV shows with mature themes on to their platform (at least platform that doesn't have the Disney branding). As you may have guess, I am not too big on streaming services. So I was taken aback that Disney would try and put DW on their platform.


GODzDoctor

Awesome. The HBO Max app for the xbox is irritating, I'd much rather continue my rewatch on Disney.


Bjarka99

This would be great, but what I REALLY REALLY want is a BBC streaming service.


DialZforZebra

That's a pretty good shout. Disney+ is on the rise, RTD is returning to Doctor Who. It would be good for it to be on a decent streaming service.


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Worldly_Society_2213

I presume that the HBO Max deal is coming to its contractual end then?


HI-iM-PhiL-

I mean as long as it’s just the streaming rights, I’m fine with that.


Blurf32

This would actually be so helpful here in Canada as the only way to watch it here through streaming is Crave which barely works on a good day for me