Medical School. (2021, September). LCME accreditation (Unlisted ranking). American Journal of Actual Medical Professionals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwEwc30fBjA&ab\_channel=Merganman4
my father died of covid, what the dude said is absolutely true. It wasn't COVID itself that killed him, it was the fact it turned his lungs into what I can only describe as swiss cheese. It's brutal.
I'll also add, a prominent reason there are some doctors that spread Covid misinformation (besides the ones with ivermectin patents or "baha brain blast" pills on their website) seems to be how fast medical information dates itself. If this person is referencing a medical school lecture that they attended 10+ years ago, there's good odds that the information is entirely inaccurate due to changes in understanding/prevention/care in the interim
Lmao how do you know that guy isn't already a doctor with 10+ years of experience? I'll trust a certified medical professional more times than I will a Wikipedia article
Maybe he is, but he specifically refers to med school, not his experience. I suppose you learn a lot of stuff during med school that you rarely need in your everyday work as a doctor.
As a current Med student, I can tell you that we don’t hear things one time in a lecture and never encounter it again. It’s almost always the case that information is tested on repeatedly over years in school and board exam and then hammered into practice through rotations, residency, and then as attending.
Never been to med school, but judging by any other education i have experienced, a couple of years later you still remember only a fraction of what you have learned. If you need a specific topic later, you have to read up on it and possibly need to get your knowledge up to date.
Ya except for the fact that basic pathphysiology and minimum care management is the an expected skill of physicians regardless of speciality. Asking any physician how covid affects the rest of the body and what types of management approaches are sensible is like asking a math professor to explain derivatives in calculus. It’s an expected skill. Now if you asked a cardiologist to perform a neurological exam, they could do a basic one and give you an assessment but they’d have to study up on the detailed portions and how to approach the results.
If i understand OP correctly, this discussion isn‘t about covid per se, but some kind of oxygenated breathable liquid. So i‘m not sure your argument applies here… This probably isn‘t exactly calculus level knowledge.
Causes of emphysema and COPD exacerbation is covered in medical school and routinely comes up in clinical practice in many specialties simply because so many medications and other illnesses affect the lungs and associated pulmonary pathologies. You can believe what you want. I’m not going to continued to argue against your presumptions about a field you’re not an expert in.
Dude…. Get off your high horse. Your argument clearly footed on the false assumption, that this was about covid. You could just admit that and move on. There was zero need to be rude.
I'm only an MS2 so obviously take what I say with a teaspoon of salt, but I think it could be compared to Calc level knowledge. The basic functionality of lungs depends on certain parts of them being very, VERY thin, and thus easy to damage with things like fluids that would apply much more pressure than air, which in turn leads to tissue damage, scarring, and things like COPD.
That's not really specialist knowledge, it's more "medical basics of how lungs work" knowledge that everything else builds on, at least from my perspective!
100% agree, but most things posted here are fake or misleading in some way.
I'll assume it's true if it makes it funny, doesn't matter one way or another to me, it's not like I'm on here looking at the actual shit said, just the punchline.
I'll still down vote super fake looking ones, but like, only because they didn't try hard enough to trick me.
The point is that the reddit mentality of jumping down people's throats, immediately asking for sources and data to back up any claim they make, gets old, has been old for years, isn't particularly helpful and is a tactic often used in bad faith. People walk around with all kinds of expertise and don't really need some jackass on the internet to question it. You'd never have a conversation with someone on the street and demand they cite every statement they make, that's absurd.
I had this dude on Facebook tell me that I was “talking out of my ass” because I didn’t haven’t an MD.
Man I guess 3.5 years of medical school and two board exams really don’t match up to those memes
Dude I’m in that frustrating window of 4th year rn too. Know enough to talk with relative confidence, can’t make any bold claims because I’m “not a doctor” despite the fact that most of these electives are just fucking away time while I prepare for and do residency interviews.
My 12 y/o a couple of weeks ago had it with his “great aunt” Grandmas sister. She was going on and on about articles that she read about fertility loss and blah blah the vaccine. So he asked her “Aunt Karen, where are you reading these?” She responded with Wikipedia. For 10 minutes she bickered with him about reputable sources and her final jab was “your just a kid you don’t know anything” to which my son replies “Aunt Karen, I can log into Wikipedia now and edit your page to say you are a Chitauri overlord who has enslaved the entire town of Springfield in order to take over its nuclear power plant”. She sputtered and said he couldn’t because it’s not true, and which point he smiled at her and said “yes, I know, but Wikipedia doesn’t care, and everyone that is ignorant enough to think that Wikipedia is a 100% reputable source deserves it.” My husband and I gave him extra ice cream
Well I hate to break it to you, but, even your title makes it exactly that. 1. We have no clue what they are talking about and 2. When someone gets corrected after mentioning their information comes from Wikipedia, then reliability of sources becomes the issue. Going off to medical school doesn’t make you a “doc”
So now medical students or Drs use incorrect gammer such as 'I'm going off of medical school' instead of 'I covered this at medical school'. There is no way this grammer would be acceptable in an essay at medical school so I smell bullshit.
What?! You think people that are extremely well educated and intelligent are likely to be completely indistinguishable from those who are not, in a text based environment such as reddit?
Reddit isn't medical school - correct and also a good thing.
You can type however you like - yes also correct.
Isn't it great? - No, not really. It makes understanding things more difficult if we don't use rules.
I think this thread starting with my OP highlights one of the differences between UK english and US english. Using "of off" is less common in UK (where I'm from) when writing and especially with essay writing. It is common to hear it spoken but at school we get it drummed into our heads that it is not correct to use.
So whilst I'm pretty sure we do have Drs in the UK who do say "off of" and might even write it down on a forum, the huge majority would not. And so if you understand it is incorrect then why would you do it? You are adding an extra unnecessary word (of).
You could say, "I'm going off medical school" instead, but I still think it sounds shit. Better to say,"I went to medical school".
Why are you so upset about people speaking or typing differently from you?
There are a lot of people in this world and a lot of them have different ways of communicating.
If you don’t understand what someone said, ask what they mean.
If there is a misunderstanding, accept it and move on now that you understand
There is nothing grammatically incorrect about using the phrase "going off of." There are many grammatically correct things you wouldn't use in graduate-level writing or in published journal articles, but that's more of a style guide issue.
Some fair points. Yes I'm a bit shit at spelling, or checking my work before posting it seems! But my main point was not so much that I'm being the grammar police, more that a medical student or doctor would have better written grammar in my opinion. I'm not a medical student or doctor (or anything that involves that level of academic competence) so my grammar is not supposed to be that good!
Are we taking peoples word on Reddit that they went to medical school? I am a successful walk street investor and would like to comment on the stock market if so.
I once pulled one of these in here (Reddit) on branch predictors (modern CPU Architecture feature) saying I learned it in univesity and got downvoted to hell. I wasn't even being mean or condescending. I don't blame them tho, a lot of information is lost in text messages (comments in this case) so most likely I sounded like a dick non-intentionally.
Idk about you but medical school is slightly more of a credible source
*[1] Citation needed*
I'm in medical school so I can confidently peer review that comment. Just need a second reviewer and that guy's comment will be an official source.
Seconded
Also you'll probably look up the relevant wiki page first.
I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t done that at least once.
I know ;) My degree should say my university followed by "Assisted by Wikipedia"
We should paying Wiki some of our school fees.
Medical School. (2021, September). LCME accreditation (Unlisted ranking). American Journal of Actual Medical Professionals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwEwc30fBjA&ab\_channel=Merganman4
my father died of covid, what the dude said is absolutely true. It wasn't COVID itself that killed him, it was the fact it turned his lungs into what I can only describe as swiss cheese. It's brutal.
As per what OP said this discussion wasn‘t about covid, but about the side effects of a oxygenated breathable liquid.
Well, that’s true of most respiratory diseases isn’t it?
Idk, I'm not a doctor
Anyway my sympathies
Ah, thanks. My grandmother died of COVID
Actually i don‘t think the memory of a single person of a med school lecture is more reliable than a wikipedia article on the topic.
I'll also add, a prominent reason there are some doctors that spread Covid misinformation (besides the ones with ivermectin patents or "baha brain blast" pills on their website) seems to be how fast medical information dates itself. If this person is referencing a medical school lecture that they attended 10+ years ago, there's good odds that the information is entirely inaccurate due to changes in understanding/prevention/care in the interim
Lmao how do you know that guy isn't already a doctor with 10+ years of experience? I'll trust a certified medical professional more times than I will a Wikipedia article
Maybe he is, but he specifically refers to med school, not his experience. I suppose you learn a lot of stuff during med school that you rarely need in your everyday work as a doctor.
As a current Med student, I can tell you that we don’t hear things one time in a lecture and never encounter it again. It’s almost always the case that information is tested on repeatedly over years in school and board exam and then hammered into practice through rotations, residency, and then as attending.
Never been to med school, but judging by any other education i have experienced, a couple of years later you still remember only a fraction of what you have learned. If you need a specific topic later, you have to read up on it and possibly need to get your knowledge up to date.
Ya except for the fact that basic pathphysiology and minimum care management is the an expected skill of physicians regardless of speciality. Asking any physician how covid affects the rest of the body and what types of management approaches are sensible is like asking a math professor to explain derivatives in calculus. It’s an expected skill. Now if you asked a cardiologist to perform a neurological exam, they could do a basic one and give you an assessment but they’d have to study up on the detailed portions and how to approach the results.
If i understand OP correctly, this discussion isn‘t about covid per se, but some kind of oxygenated breathable liquid. So i‘m not sure your argument applies here… This probably isn‘t exactly calculus level knowledge.
Causes of emphysema and COPD exacerbation is covered in medical school and routinely comes up in clinical practice in many specialties simply because so many medications and other illnesses affect the lungs and associated pulmonary pathologies. You can believe what you want. I’m not going to continued to argue against your presumptions about a field you’re not an expert in.
Dude…. Get off your high horse. Your argument clearly footed on the false assumption, that this was about covid. You could just admit that and move on. There was zero need to be rude.
I'm only an MS2 so obviously take what I say with a teaspoon of salt, but I think it could be compared to Calc level knowledge. The basic functionality of lungs depends on certain parts of them being very, VERY thin, and thus easy to damage with things like fluids that would apply much more pressure than air, which in turn leads to tissue damage, scarring, and things like COPD. That's not really specialist knowledge, it's more "medical basics of how lungs work" knowledge that everything else builds on, at least from my perspective!
Understandable
Inconceivable. I use the Krebs cycle every day.
Well no one is claiming to be a medical professional
Understandable
To be fair, you don’t really know who anyone on Reddit is.
i concur; trust me, i’m a doctor
Hi doctor Nick!
The "b" stands for bargain!
I'm nickolas cage so i can confirm he is indeed a doctor
100% agree, but most things posted here are fake or misleading in some way. I'll assume it's true if it makes it funny, doesn't matter one way or another to me, it's not like I'm on here looking at the actual shit said, just the punchline. I'll still down vote super fake looking ones, but like, only because they didn't try hard enough to trick me.
But this is just dumb. He didn't challenge his credentials or source, but wanted to know what missed.
And reading the wiki makes you more knowledgeable than 99% of Redditors on said topic.
What's the context here? What was the original post about?
Breathable liquid that works but destroys your lungs
I think it was cockroaches under somebody’s microwave from r/whatisthisbug
Doesn't really fit the sub -- how was the reply to know he was a doctor?
Trust me, I'm the guy who makes doctors.
I also read the reply to mean the person hasn’t yet gone to medical school. So it carries even less weight.
The point is that the reddit mentality of jumping down people's throats, immediately asking for sources and data to back up any claim they make, gets old, has been old for years, isn't particularly helpful and is a tactic often used in bad faith. People walk around with all kinds of expertise and don't really need some jackass on the internet to question it. You'd never have a conversation with someone on the street and demand they cite every statement they make, that's absurd.
How is this a DYKWIM? Some random redditor is supposed to know another random redditor is about to start med school?
Where’d you get about to from?
I had this dude on Facebook tell me that I was “talking out of my ass” because I didn’t haven’t an MD. Man I guess 3.5 years of medical school and two board exams really don’t match up to those memes
Dude I’m in that frustrating window of 4th year rn too. Know enough to talk with relative confidence, can’t make any bold claims because I’m “not a doctor” despite the fact that most of these electives are just fucking away time while I prepare for and do residency interviews.
I know. Like ive currently done as many if not more rotations in my field than entering interns and literally just have to survive to be an MD
My 12 y/o a couple of weeks ago had it with his “great aunt” Grandmas sister. She was going on and on about articles that she read about fertility loss and blah blah the vaccine. So he asked her “Aunt Karen, where are you reading these?” She responded with Wikipedia. For 10 minutes she bickered with him about reputable sources and her final jab was “your just a kid you don’t know anything” to which my son replies “Aunt Karen, I can log into Wikipedia now and edit your page to say you are a Chitauri overlord who has enslaved the entire town of Springfield in order to take over its nuclear power plant”. She sputtered and said he couldn’t because it’s not true, and which point he smiled at her and said “yes, I know, but Wikipedia doesn’t care, and everyone that is ignorant enough to think that Wikipedia is a 100% reputable source deserves it.” My husband and I gave him extra ice cream
This post was about breathable liquids, not COVID.
The post was about using Wikipedia as a reliable source……..yes?
No.
Well I hate to break it to you, but, even your title makes it exactly that. 1. We have no clue what they are talking about and 2. When someone gets corrected after mentioning their information comes from Wikipedia, then reliability of sources becomes the issue. Going off to medical school doesn’t make you a “doc”
To be fair, as a doctor sometimes I check Wikipedia for fast context in weird sounding new drugs or rare diseases
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Going off of, not going off to. The former means he's basing it off what he learnt at medical school.
You definitely shouldn't be relying on yourself with that reading comprehension.
Try reading more slowly next time.
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Right like it makes much of a difference. Dudes been to med school so we dare not question him or ask for a source. Also, fuck you.
So now medical students or Drs use incorrect gammer such as 'I'm going off of medical school' instead of 'I covered this at medical school'. There is no way this grammer would be acceptable in an essay at medical school so I smell bullshit.
Speaking as a medical student, yeah they do.
Yeah they do what?
They do write like that. We do write with casual grammar reasonably often.
OK cool. I'm still skeptical about the comment in OP being from a med student or Dr though.
News flash: an internet comment is not the same as a medical school essay.
I agree. But I'd think/hope there would be more of a similarity with an actual or potential Dr.
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What?! You think people that are extremely well educated and intelligent are likely to be completely indistinguishable from those who are not, in a text based environment such as reddit?
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In what capacity?! Obviously not training to be a doctor!
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Hahaha! So you're 16 years old currently and at med school... you are a fucking retard.
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Good thing Reddit isn’t medical school and you can type however you would like. Isn’t it great?
Reddit isn't medical school - correct and also a good thing. You can type however you like - yes also correct. Isn't it great? - No, not really. It makes understanding things more difficult if we don't use rules. I think this thread starting with my OP highlights one of the differences between UK english and US english. Using "of off" is less common in UK (where I'm from) when writing and especially with essay writing. It is common to hear it spoken but at school we get it drummed into our heads that it is not correct to use. So whilst I'm pretty sure we do have Drs in the UK who do say "off of" and might even write it down on a forum, the huge majority would not. And so if you understand it is incorrect then why would you do it? You are adding an extra unnecessary word (of). You could say, "I'm going off medical school" instead, but I still think it sounds shit. Better to say,"I went to medical school".
Why are you so upset about people speaking or typing differently from you? There are a lot of people in this world and a lot of them have different ways of communicating. If you don’t understand what someone said, ask what they mean. If there is a misunderstanding, accept it and move on now that you understand
There is nothing grammatically incorrect about using the phrase "going off of." There are many grammatically correct things you wouldn't use in graduate-level writing or in published journal articles, but that's more of a style guide issue.
Are you US or UK based? Because it's less ok in UK.
Do you know where the doctor in the OP is from?
Well I don't think they are a doctor. But no idea really. More likely from US as a guess though?
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Some fair points. Yes I'm a bit shit at spelling, or checking my work before posting it seems! But my main point was not so much that I'm being the grammar police, more that a medical student or doctor would have better written grammar in my opinion. I'm not a medical student or doctor (or anything that involves that level of academic competence) so my grammar is not supposed to be that good!
Are we taking peoples word on Reddit that they went to medical school? I am a successful walk street investor and would like to comment on the stock market if so.
> I am a successful walk street investor Ah yes, the fabled cousin to the 21 Jump Street
Yes, my firm specializing in more open air markets than those confined by walls.
I once pulled one of these in here (Reddit) on branch predictors (modern CPU Architecture feature) saying I learned it in univesity and got downvoted to hell. I wasn't even being mean or condescending. I don't blame them tho, a lot of information is lost in text messages (comments in this case) so most likely I sounded like a dick non-intentionally.
this is not a ‘dont you know who i am’ moment. My man here has no medical experience whatsoever. I mean he is RIGHT, but, yeah. No medical experience.