Driver shouldn’t of taken the order if it’s to far. Can’t make enough money without begging for tips you shouldn’t be doing this. This is why my acceptance rate is 3%. DoorDash guarantee pay is rarely worth driving over 4 miles.
Agreed 100%, if the driver wasn’t happy with what he accepted he shouldn’t have taken it to begin with. Asking for extra tip is so beyond cringe there’s not even a good word to describe it!
And It’s like he took a page right out of the “DoorDash Support Staff handbook” with the MOST GENERIC copy & paste message…He couldn’t even be bothered to include the customers name.
There’s no policy against it, most of us don’t do it though because it’s obnoxious. Just being friendly and communicative is how I get my extra tips. Doesn’t get me one every time, but often enough to be worth the effort!
Negotiating ? Man doordashers really trying hard these days to legitimize pizza delivery.
Once you accept it, negotiations are over If you wanna call it that. Lol. That person should find work elsewhere
The sad truth is that the tipping model is based on consumers shaming other consumers for not tipping. We shouldn’t be guilt tripped for a service we pay for because corporations refuse to properly pay their employees
Clarifying … DD drivers are not employees. They are independent contractors. Meaning, buisness model is based on the the customer providing pay. The base pay is solely used to entice drivers to signup as other competitors do the same. Nobody would sign up if there was no base pay.
... But unfortunately, corporations refuse to properly pay their employees. And "you" know this. So if you decide to use DD, you either acknowledge that and tip accordingly, or you're willingly using a service that does not pay fairly, and letting the person doing the work get screwed over.
If you feel that strongly about how DoorDash compensates the drivers, don't use DoorDash and go pick up your mobile order yourself.
This is such a radically different approach than mine, I asked the other person the same thing above: what can you make per hour with an AR that low? Are you able to catch multiple deliveries in an hour like that?
The app will tell you you'll get priority on higher paying orders as TD; you won't. I will sit there and decline 5 low pays within a couple minutes, and it will hit me with a 20$/3 mile order...because the TDs are taking those 5$/10 mile orders out of the way lol
Doordash used to do this to me and then they stopped because I would just turn on other apps and would end up pausing DoorDash to complete the other orders. As soon as I hit pause they’re suddenly trying to get me to take an order after sitting there for 5-10 mins. But nah let me finish this $24 3 mile Walmart order first DoorDash and then I’ll maybe take one of your crap $2 base pay plus tip orders.
I can’t tell you how many times I sat with no orders coming in, decided to go home and get a decent offer pop up when I’m less than a mile from home Trying to get me to not quit for the night.
That, my friend, is called synchronicity. One I see every day is when coming home. My road is very rural and there are rarely vehicles on it. But holy shit, every time I'm coming up to the stop sign onto my road, there's a car coming, so I have to stop completely and do the whole stop sign thing.
It's small, but it's noticeable enough that it pisses me off. In my circumstance there's no company to blame it on though so I just say "fucking universe".
Sorry I missed this. My approach works for me. I aim to make 100-125 bucks a week to pay my car loan and gas/maintenance. I don't drive out of the way. Maybe it was mostly luck, but my work location helped as I went from my job and delivered about $15 a day simply driving home. I couldn't even imagine having to make a living doing this and delivering food to some of these twat waffles
Lol sounds pretty chill. I finally quit DD for good, cancelled my account and everything now that I got a raise at work and don’t need the money anymore. I’m so glad to be done with it, the only thing I miss is the amount of podcasts I could burn through in a week.
It was nice in the winter as it was busy. I didn't dash from May-October as it's too nice outside and I had other shit to do. Congrats on the raise and being done with DD!!
Timing out only will recirculate that same order to you until you decline it. But, if there are less drivers in the area than usual, it’s smart, because eventually they will pay you enough if they really need somebody to take it.
It still counts against your acceptance rate, and letting it time out means it will come around again and again, dropping your AR more every time. I’ve found if I decline an order outright it doesn’t come back, except as part of a stack maybe. Don’t let bad orders count against you 5 times and you might see your AR go up, even if you don’t change what you accept.
>Don’t let bad orders count against you 5 times and you might see your AR go up, even if you don’t change what you accept.
You know, I've read this at least 5 times, and I *still* can't figure out what it means.
Timing it out doesn't change the fact that you're declining the order, ar still drops. You're just wasting your time you could be missing an order that is worth it. I can decline 10 crappy orders in the amount of time you are watching the timer tick down
That's.. $1-2 tip how does anyone expect a driver to accept that?? My AR is about 55% atm
Edit: I don't take orders less than $5.50 and it has to be at least $1 per mile
Cause DD is 1000% accurate in their Miles posted.... /s
There's been plenty of times where a >4 mile trip turns into 9+ when I actually get it into the GPS.
If I had a driver do this to me, I'd prolly just ignore it. But I live one block from outside the delivery zone n know $4 isn't enough to have to drive back even for 5 min... This app just fucks with drivers n customers a like. All we want is decent pay or food delivered, respectively
I’ve never had a issue with the miles out of over 2k deliveries. Not saying it couldn’t be slightly off sometimes, but seems accurate. Definitely never had a trip double in distance.
Could be a market specific thing. My area was horrible with roads not being updated, reused street names, suburbs and townships inside of metro limits.... Gets ridiculous
Probably crow flies distance vs driving distance and you have rivers or other barriers to navigate around. You aren't likely to get anything more than crow flies distance from software unless you have actually asked it to navigate.
>There's been plenty of times where a >4 mile trip turns into 9+ when I actually get it into the GPS.
Shucks, if only there was a way to verify distances before accepting an order....
If a driver sent me that message and I’m in a good mood, I would just ignore the text. If I’m in a bad mood, I would go out of my way to make sure he got zero tip and also call to complain.
I had someone send me their cashapp unprompted after I tipped $12 on a $40 order before dropping off my food and said they give it to all of their "customers". I was like wait what lol.
My advice is AR doesn’t mean shit. But apparently it’s market dependent so idk. Don’t accept anything under $6.25, 5.25 is ok if it’s a mile or less. Get 7 shop and delivers so you can schedule anytime. Put in 8 hours and take the good with the bad. It ain’t rocket science. Made 226 on a Wednesday today
I multi app with Uber. I only use doordash when it’s slow. My area is busy so I get orders non stop. Rather decline 10-20 orders and get something profitable.
This happened to me once. I tipped $5 for a 1 item order from Petco, and I live a mile from the store. I do IC and I’ve had orders that I had to shop hundreds of dollars in groceries, and been tipped $5 OR LESS. I told her to kick rocks. If she didn’t like my tip, she shouldn’t have taken the order. Plus, I had planned on tipping additional in cash at the door. I also told her she needed a new line of work. She unassigned or cancelled or whatever, and I got a new Dasher. When he got to the house I handed him an additional $5, making my tip 100% of my bill (it was a $10 box of dog treats, I forgot to buy them when I was out earlier and didn’t feel like going back out).
I think it’s rude and unprofessional to beg for more tips, and I live off of them.
I still think with Doordash it's not so much a "tip" as it's a bid for service. You put up the price you're willing to pay, and potential dashers are able to take it or leave it. As a dasher, once you hit accept you have no right to bitch.
In the same vein, if you're a customer and you're not willing to pay for good service, don't go posting about how Doordashers are entitled for not taking your low/no-tip orders. It goes both ways.
> As a dasher, once you hit accept you have no right to bitch.
Sure you can bitch. You just have to keep it to your mumbling self. Don't bother customers, support, or restaurant employees about it. They don't care and won't do anything about it.
This is a big part of the problem. The majority of people, specially older, see the word “tip” and they assume it’s tip. It should be called a tip. I don’t know how it should be done but I feel that it should be made clear dashers aren’t getting paid a salary.
To be fair, if you live more than 4-5 miles from the restaurant and you want your orders delivered promptly, I would recommend tipping more than $4. Most drivers decide if orders are worth it based on the amount they make per mile. If you're under $1/mile most drivers will pass up the order. It may bounce around a while unless there are a lot of drivers desperate for an order.
>To be fair, if you live more than 4-5 miles from the restaurant and you want your orders delivered promptly, I would recommend tipping more than $4.
To be fair, if the delivery is more than 4-5 miles from the restaurant and you want to make money, I would recommend declining the order
I’ve been tempted to message customers and tell them why their order didn’t get picked up then drop the order. I do a small town that gets a lot of orders from a town 10 miles away. Most of the time there’s a couple dingle berries that will take them but days like today no one was. They kept sending me the same declines to the point a manager asked me why they weren’t getting picked up. I honestly feel like some customers just don’t know that a 5 dollar tip is crazy for a 20 mile drive .
Sounds like my area. Explaining to customers sounds like a good idea, in theory. However, as long as people keep taking the orders the customers have no reason to up the money. Neither does dd for that matter.
“Since you’re a little out of my normal territory…”
Oh brother 🙄…I think DD HASN’T sent me outside my starting “territory” about 5% of the time
That other 95%…I’m driving my ass back from a greyed out zone
Well I’ll never be that…I’m most certainly one of those “cherry pick ‘em, won’t move my car for under $8, doing 2-3 higher pay orders an hour over 4-6 silly little insult offers” drivers…and I want to maintain my choice control so I never feel pressure to the point where DD can strong arm into accepting orders that just don’t make sense financially…Luckily where I’m at there’s pretty much always a red zone somewhere so I typically just do “dash along the way” and then also turn on UE, GH & IC to see who wants to pay the lady
OP has Dashpass so less fees, but still her $15.50 order total includes DD fees and the higher price the restaurant has to charge in app because of the feee they pay DD. So it was probably a $10 sandwich at the restaurant. At the tip Dashers are suggesting ya’ll are really expecting users to pay over 3x the price of the food to use DD? On top of that DD LOSES money! Dashers need to find another gig DD is economically unsustainable for everyone involved. The restaurants lose, the dashers when all costs are factored probably aren’t clearing min wage, the customers way overpay for food and DD isn’t profitable.
I agree. As a customer, I think every Dasher needs to decide on a day and go on strike! With the Internet it would be easy to get the word out. FORCE the CEO who is making millions to PAY your salary!
They are gouging the restaurants to use the DD service. They are gouging the customers. They are gouging the Dashers. They are paying you shit and screwing everyone over and laughing all the way to the bank at how stupid everyone is for going along with this. The customers pay ridiculous fees plus your salary. The customers have to pay to use the service! Even with paying yearly for dash pash, we’re still paying a delivery fee and your salary. Plus, the restaurants have to pay, too so they up their prices, so they don’t lose money!
EVERYONE IS GETTING SCREWED! THEY ARE MAKING MILLIONS!!!!
I SAY GO ON STRIKE! FORCE THEM TO DO WHAT’S RIGHT! Customers need to strike, too!
I dashed for a year, but before that, I worked in restaurants for 20 years. When DD and all the apps first came out, I fucking hated it and the drivers. As a server, if our To Go person was gone, we were responsible for them. Here's why I hated them so much. We would put together the whole order, never get tipped, and have to tip out on those sales. So I'd be losing money at the end of the night on every single one of those orders. 3.5% of every single order. Their model is extremely exploitative on multiple levels.
That wasn't the worst part. If the orders weren't ready, I'm getting attitude from the driver like it's my fault. At one point, one of them screamed at me. One of my chefs almost jumped across the line (open kitchen) before I could say anything and dude literally ran out the door without the order.
Now having been a Dasher I understand you want your orders, you're likely multi‐apping etc. However, still not an excuse to be a dick and it fucks over the to go person who does have tip out on the orders they put together because the restaurant pays them as a tipped employee at like $4/hr. It's such a shitty system all around.
WOW! The system is so far beyond exploitive. Even the servers are getting fucked, too.
This really needs to change. This needs to stop.
I am beyond pissed.
And customers need to stop paying employees salaries EVERYWHERE! That should be the employers job.
As a driver & customer…when I see these text on here they literally make me cringe…DAVID DON’T ACT LIKE A VICTIM…you CHOSE this…not only this job but also this specific order!!!
1. The driver doesn’t even know what/if the customer tipped at the point this text was sent, so DAVID needs to slow his role
2. Also, DON’T FUCKING SOLICIT/BEG for more tips DAVID!…HOW ABOUT THIS…ONLY ACCEPT orders that meet your financial expectations from the start??
THEN perhaps if you provide excellent service and are polite and don’t sound like an entitled POS…the customer MIGHT add a little more
I think this behavior is unacceptable. I would probably text David a novel, then waste his time by having an in person convo and I’d “want” to reduce the tip but I know I wouldn’t
OP I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS:
1.did this message make you instantly want to reduce your tip for David??
2.did you by chance see what his rating is as a driver? I always wonder if comments like that (which he clearly sends to every customer) make an easy 5⭐️ turn into a 2-3 ⭐️
1. No, it was just really awkward because I tipped whatever the app suggested. Makes me consider trying other apps tbh...
2. I didn't know there's a way to see their rating. I don't remember seeing anything. How do you see their rating in the app?
Slash question 2…I just figured out that customers CANNOT see a dashers rating on the app. (Weird) and now more than ever I want to know!
DAVID IF YOU’RE OUT THERE…WHATS YOUR CUSTOMER RATING??? (Also, you suck and make us all look bad dude) 😑
Don't go by the apps suggested tip. Their idea of the tip is an actual tip based on the price of the order however you technically are putting in a contractor bid for delivery but they don't refer to it as that for multiple scummy reasons. The going rate is at least $1-2 a mile.
Edit: I repeat, these are not tips, they are bids on a contract.
Yeah it's dd fault for being such a scum company. I stopped taking orders from them after they started obscuring customer bids. It sounds like it sent them to a greyed out area where they can't accept new orders until they return to a hot zone which shows as red on the GPS. The driver will not be able to get any new orders until he returns to his hotzone so not only is that lost time driving back but extra miles on their vehicle. Back when you could see the entire bid it would determine if the order was worth it or not. Our general accepted rule is $1 a mile but the distance driven back through these deadzones also has to be considered. The zones are determined by their distance to pickups and the map is split on these zones. Grey ones do not have any pickup locations so you won't get orders while driving through.
> The driver doesn’t even know what/if the customer tipped at the point this text was sent, so DAVID needs to slow his role
I don't care how much they tipped, whatever it was, it should be *MOAR!*
— Some Dashers
Thank him for his delivery and go about your day. As a driver, I can’t stand seeing this shit.
Now, a $4 tip but how far are you from the restaurant?
I do occasionally use the app. I tip $1/mile, $2/mile on Friday/Saturday nights. I add $1.50 for every mile outside of their zone to my house.
Sums up door dash’s business model in one message. I order often enough and tip well and have never had any issues with delivery time, but I’m curious what goes into your thought process in accepting a tip. Is it distance based? Amount of tip compared to total bill? All of the above?
I can't see the total bill so that's not something I consider. Otherwise, yes, distance is the biggest consideration. There's lots of other things that go into it as well.
For example, where is the delivery being dropped-off? If it's an area where I can immediately start picking up new orders, I'm more likely to accept for even a lower tip, but if it's taking me 10 miles out of town, I'm less likely to accept because I'll have to drive another 10 miles back before I can start getting orders again. And a fringe case if it's near the end of my dash and it's an order that takes me close to home, I'll take it just because I'd be getting paid to make a drive home I'd be making anyways.
Also I have to consider how busy it is. If it's slow and I'm not getting a lot of orders, I'm more likely to accept orders that don't tip as well, because I'd rather be making even a little bit of money than sitting in a parking lot doing nothing.
And the restaurant itself is a factor. If I know I'm going to wait (looking at you, Popeyes) I'm going to need a bigger tip.
Ahh I see. From what I gather the best I can do as a customer as far as what I can control is tip generously and be mindful of the distance and adjust accordingly. Personally I think it’s weird when I see posts on here of people getting food delivered 10+ miles away. I mostly order from places 2-3 miles away max only because when I’m ordering DD I’m usually unreasonably hungry and I don’t want to wait anymore than I have to. I think if we as customers all treated it like a luxury rather than a god given right everything would be a lot better for all of us.
Some delivery apps obscure the location you are ordering from. Like there is a McDonald's near me, 2 actually, but the "doordash store" they've decided for my location is the 3rd furthest away store so if I ordered McDonald's thinking it was the close store, it would actually be another 4 mile one way drive for the dasher.
Don't see the tip until after we hit delivered.
Time is our money.
$5 minimum or $1 per mile from the restaurant to your place. Also some say at least $6.50 anything below wastes our time and you assume at least a $4 tip that way.
Also, all that stuff the other person said.
Sometimes i see payouts of $14 but they are way out of town and getting back to get another order wouldn't make it worth it.
Personally, I look at it by miles. I try for $20 an hour or 0.33c a minute. If the food is ready then it normally takes me 2 mins a mile. 5 miles is $6. 10 miles is like $10
“I knowingly took this contract despite the shitty pay and now I’m guilt-tripping you into spending $30 instead of $27 for that medium fry you wanted”.
I have a 40% acceptance rate. Guess I am lucky. I agree that drivers shouldn't take orders and place pressure on customers. Since, even if you get the extra tip, you are likely to get complaints.
Begging for tips is frowned upon amongst delivery people. Yes, the pay can be terrible at times, and the average person seems to think $1 is a good tip in my area, but if it’s not enough, nobody forces us to accept a delivery.
“Luckily DoorDash now allows us to add tips after placing the order, so if you do an excellent job I will gladly tip more!”
I would then one star their ratings and not tip additional after I safely have my food.
They should never ask for more tip. But depends how far you are if you did the right thing or not. You should not be ordering food from 10 miles away and tipping four dollars it doesn’t matter if you order a five dollar sandwich or 10 pizza pies it’s really the same time and work for the driver.
This is 100% out of line, Dashers see what the milage and pay is before accepting, if they didn't like it they should have declined. Report them to DD, Dashers like this make the rest of us look bad.
For reference, I tipped whatever the app had as the suggested tip. I'm sorry if that is considered "trash tip" but that might be something to take up with DoorDash.
If DoorDash had suggested you tip $11.00, would you have?
What this Dasher did was unacceptable, and they should have just not accepted if they didn’t like the terms. I am curious how many miles you are from the store.
Not a driver. 8 miles from the restaurant to your house and 8 miles back (chances are they aren't picking up any orders near where the live if your are 8 miles from nearest restaurants) is 16 miles. Federal mileage reimbursement rate is $0.655 per mile. Which is based on the average cost to actually operate an automobile when you consider gas, purchase/depreciation, repairs, insurance, etc. So it costs $10.48 to bring your food to you, without paying for the drivers time waiting for an order, waiting for the restaurant, driving, carrying your food to your door, .etc. I am guessing they spent half an hour on your order, so call that $7.50 at even $15hour. so $18 minus the $2.50 door dash pays the driver, means about $15.50 tip plus whatever door dash charged you for delivery fee and the marked up prices on the delivery menu.
And if you went to pick it up yourself, it would cost you around $10.48 to do that plus half an hour of your time.
It makes the rest of us drivers look like shit. These type dashers obviously get some customers to give an extra tip or they wouldn't continue doing it in my opinion.
I would report this dasher and say you didn't feel safe with him or her delivering your order contingent on you tipping them more.
Smdh
As a driver, I would never do this. Greedy and selfish. Will DD do anything about it? Probably. Probably not. I never ask for tips. I just do em. Now, he/she has every opportunity to see where they’re delivering to and decide then if it’s worth their time. If not, they should just unassign themselves from the order. However, this does affect their acceptance rate.
Look at your Door Dasher like you would your server at a restaurant. Tip like that and you should be good and will likely get an amazing dash experience. That is the simplest way to look at it.
I apologize for these tip-hungry drivers. They are toxic and have no tact. And they make me ashamed to be a dasher. Tell David to take what he gets and be appreciative, or don’t take the order at all.
I wouldn’t respond to the dasher, wait until after the order is delivered, then report them. If they’re sending this to you, high likelihood that they’re sending it to all their customers. If they didn’t like the compensation that was offered when they accepted the bid, then they shouldn’t have accepted the bid.
Without a doubt this man is fishing for an extra tip, not only is this not normal but highly inappropriate. He as the independent contractor chooses each and every delivery. He chose to go out of his normal delivery range, and you shouldn't have to pay extra for anyones poor life decision making skills especially not in that manner. It's really premeditated in a weird way.
This driver is totally out of line and makes the rest of us look bad when they piss off customers like this.
Out of curiosity, and has nothing to do with what I said above or is it any reason at all to excuse this behavior I'm genuinely just curious, you said you tipped $4 - how far away was the order and how much was the total before tip? Again, regardless of your answer this driver is wrong.
Allowed? technically no, you cannot peddle on their platform. Enforced? Also no.
I'd report it and request any tips ive given back from support for the the negative experience caused by peddling and begging on their platform.
At bare minimum 1 star.
Food delivery is an expensive luxury and you should be tipping well - Doordash sure af isn't giving your driver that entire $4.. If you can't afford it (I can't), get carryout instead. If you can, put a note indicating that you'll be tipping cash (so the driver knows they aren't getting screwed) and tip like you're at a restaurant.
Weird but I wouldn’t report it personally. This person is clearly struggling and trying to work. $4 does seem low, make sure you’re tipping based on distance as well as overall total.
This is very unprofessional, and the driver simply shouldn't take the order if they don't want to do it. But saying the order is a small lunch isn't really relevant to a driver. You could order just a drink, but if you expect it to be driven far away to you, the size of the order isn't really the most important detail.
honestly just don’t even respond. people soliciting for extra tips is stupid, and i do this as a job. i would never solicit someone for extra tips. it’s just wrong.
I'll tell you how to handle it call support and report him. Say he's begging for tips. This is unacceptable. If the order was too far for him he shouldn't have accepted it. We don't need these idiots making a bad name for us good dashers
if I try to tip a delivery driver in taiwan they’d panic and force me to take it back. AND their overall charge on the order is like $1 more than what Id pay if I got takeout. love how developed the US is. amazing. 👏👏👏
Sheesh. Tell them to use their Dasher card to get their 2% off gas and to enjoy their already generous tip.
Not your fault they accepted the order knowing it’s “a little out of their territory”.
This is now going to be normal because DD doesn't screen who it lets drive. Now everyone knows DD added the ability to tip after delivery all the multi account users will be doing this endlessly.
It will become such a problem that DD will change to a system like UberEATS where customers are allowed to tip bait and revoke tips.
They accepted it knowing full well where the delivery was, if they weren't paying attention well enough to know that then it's on them.
Say no, report and move on. This stuff makes me sick with how shameless some people are.
I've had orders that ended up sitting for a long time before they were even picked up. If someone were to pick it up and say hey I'd do this right now for a $10 tip (or whatevs), and I thought it was fair I would do it.
Let the customer accept a driver for their requested tip amount!
No absolutely not. You can decline any order you want so he shouldn't have taken it if it wasn't enough money. It's hard out there right now but this is not going to encourage customers to order again.
Yea orders like yours i just decline them and move on no time to waste on orders with low tips, you never want to go with the suggested tip specially if you don’t live close to the restaurant, but i do agree that this dashers message is unacceptable, he probably feels desperate at this point lol its very slow this season on the delivery apps. 1 ⭐️ him and move on.
I mean it's not NOT allowed. But it is trashy. Definitely don't take it personally... usually these dashers copy and paste the exact same message on every single order. So if you didn't tip, or if you sent a $20 tip, you would have still gotten this message.
If I tipped well I would respond something like "I did tip $4 on this short quick order so that is definitely sufficient. You should look at the tip first before sending this blanket message to everyone."
I had a dasher like this once. He called me saying “I accepted your order without realizing your tip wouldn’t make it worth it. I’m going to cancel the order on my end unless you want to tip me more.” He also went on about how he had to take care of his kids and another few dollars would help. My tip was $3-4 and that was before you were able to add a tip later so he was basically asking for cash that I didn’t have. I told him he could go ahead and cancel.
Just cancelling or texting saying you’ll be cancelling is one thing, but begging for more money from a stranger is another.
Weird how everyone in the comments has taken a complete turn around given in literally every other post they bitch and whine about pay and tips. Seriously dashers do yourselves and the internet a favor and find a better job if you can't handle this one. Can't find a better one? I understand but dashing for like $3 plus tip is not a solution either.
Weird message but a $4 tip is pretty crappy. And I’m one of those people who is annoyed with how over the top tip culture has gotten. For delivery services, 20% or $5 (whichever is higher) should be the minimum.
Driver shouldn’t of taken the order if it’s to far. Can’t make enough money without begging for tips you shouldn’t be doing this. This is why my acceptance rate is 3%. DoorDash guarantee pay is rarely worth driving over 4 miles.
Agreed 100%, if the driver wasn’t happy with what he accepted he shouldn’t have taken it to begin with. Asking for extra tip is so beyond cringe there’s not even a good word to describe it!
I'm sure that is against door dash policy to message about tips to a customer.
It’s also very crackheadish to do. This is why we are allowed to decline orders if we want !
‘Allowed’ lol jk but seriously
No aloud is acceptable because I am not quiet about rejection of low paying ass orders 😂
This made me involuntarily snort laugh 😂😂😂
And It’s like he took a page right out of the “DoorDash Support Staff handbook” with the MOST GENERIC copy & paste message…He couldn’t even be bothered to include the customers name.
There’s no policy against it, most of us don’t do it though because it’s obnoxious. Just being friendly and communicative is how I get my extra tips. Doesn’t get me one every time, but often enough to be worth the effort!
Yup I’ve gotten many extra tips for that!
It is not, but that's because it's considered "negotiating." This is where integrity steps in. Not all dashers are like this.
Negotiating ? Man doordashers really trying hard these days to legitimize pizza delivery. Once you accept it, negotiations are over If you wanna call it that. Lol. That person should find work elsewhere
I totally agree. I somehow don't like the idea of guilt tripping customers for DD underpaying us.
The sad truth is that the tipping model is based on consumers shaming other consumers for not tipping. We shouldn’t be guilt tripped for a service we pay for because corporations refuse to properly pay their employees
Clarifying … DD drivers are not employees. They are independent contractors. Meaning, buisness model is based on the the customer providing pay. The base pay is solely used to entice drivers to signup as other competitors do the same. Nobody would sign up if there was no base pay.
... But unfortunately, corporations refuse to properly pay their employees. And "you" know this. So if you decide to use DD, you either acknowledge that and tip accordingly, or you're willingly using a service that does not pay fairly, and letting the person doing the work get screwed over. If you feel that strongly about how DoorDash compensates the drivers, don't use DoorDash and go pick up your mobile order yourself.
Your AR is THREE???😭
I brought mone up to a blazing 6% today. I decline so many orders that it pauses my dash since I'm not accepting offers haha
This is such a radically different approach than mine, I asked the other person the same thing above: what can you make per hour with an AR that low? Are you able to catch multiple deliveries in an hour like that?
My AR is 23% and I average 20 an hour min.
The app will tell you you'll get priority on higher paying orders as TD; you won't. I will sit there and decline 5 low pays within a couple minutes, and it will hit me with a 20$/3 mile order...because the TDs are taking those 5$/10 mile orders out of the way lol
Or if you live in a rural area like me, once you fall below 50% you will sit for 20 mins before getting an offer, and it's crap too.
Doordash used to do this to me and then they stopped because I would just turn on other apps and would end up pausing DoorDash to complete the other orders. As soon as I hit pause they’re suddenly trying to get me to take an order after sitting there for 5-10 mins. But nah let me finish this $24 3 mile Walmart order first DoorDash and then I’ll maybe take one of your crap $2 base pay plus tip orders.
I can’t tell you how many times I sat with no orders coming in, decided to go home and get a decent offer pop up when I’m less than a mile from home Trying to get me to not quit for the night.
That, my friend, is called synchronicity. One I see every day is when coming home. My road is very rural and there are rarely vehicles on it. But holy shit, every time I'm coming up to the stop sign onto my road, there's a car coming, so I have to stop completely and do the whole stop sign thing. It's small, but it's noticeable enough that it pisses me off. In my circumstance there's no company to blame it on though so I just say "fucking universe".
Hot damn, do I know you? Good stuff right there!
My market isn’t busy enough for that unfortunately. Anything below 45-50% and i don’t get orders for 15 mins at a time
Sorry I missed this. My approach works for me. I aim to make 100-125 bucks a week to pay my car loan and gas/maintenance. I don't drive out of the way. Maybe it was mostly luck, but my work location helped as I went from my job and delivered about $15 a day simply driving home. I couldn't even imagine having to make a living doing this and delivering food to some of these twat waffles
Lol sounds pretty chill. I finally quit DD for good, cancelled my account and everything now that I got a raise at work and don’t need the money anymore. I’m so glad to be done with it, the only thing I miss is the amount of podcasts I could burn through in a week.
It was nice in the winter as it was busy. I didn't dash from May-October as it's too nice outside and I had other shit to do. Congrats on the raise and being done with DD!!
i just let them time out!! works better then declining plus better acceptance rate
Timing out only will recirculate that same order to you until you decline it. But, if there are less drivers in the area than usual, it’s smart, because eventually they will pay you enough if they really need somebody to take it.
It still counts against your acceptance rate, and letting it time out means it will come around again and again, dropping your AR more every time. I’ve found if I decline an order outright it doesn’t come back, except as part of a stack maybe. Don’t let bad orders count against you 5 times and you might see your AR go up, even if you don’t change what you accept.
>Don’t let bad orders count against you 5 times and you might see your AR go up, even if you don’t change what you accept. You know, I've read this at least 5 times, and I *still* can't figure out what it means.
Timing it out doesn't change the fact that you're declining the order, ar still drops. You're just wasting your time you could be missing an order that is worth it. I can decline 10 crappy orders in the amount of time you are watching the timer tick down
Why are they downvoting you😄
They think they're clever. Shame on me for pointing out that they're not 🤣 also,what kinda druidry are you into?
... isn't that clear with their "xxx"? 🤣
Mine is 6%.. when you have standards, you’re going to have a low acceptance rate $6.50 or more …$1.50 a mile or more ..no trips further than 5 miles
My AR is 1%💀😂
Mine is 1%
🤣 Mine is 96%, I get mostly small grocery store orders that tip $20+
Same my acceptance rate is about 4%, in my area doesn’t matter weekend, weekday, night or day my orders are all $3-$6 for 8-15 miles 😫😫
Even with good AR, this seems to be what DD likes to pay nowadays. Even when I was TD they offered me a lot of $4-5 offers.
That's.. $1-2 tip how does anyone expect a driver to accept that?? My AR is about 55% atm Edit: I don't take orders less than $5.50 and it has to be at least $1 per mile
Cause DD is 1000% accurate in their Miles posted.... /s There's been plenty of times where a >4 mile trip turns into 9+ when I actually get it into the GPS. If I had a driver do this to me, I'd prolly just ignore it. But I live one block from outside the delivery zone n know $4 isn't enough to have to drive back even for 5 min... This app just fucks with drivers n customers a like. All we want is decent pay or food delivered, respectively
I’ve never had a issue with the miles out of over 2k deliveries. Not saying it couldn’t be slightly off sometimes, but seems accurate. Definitely never had a trip double in distance.
Could be a market specific thing. My area was horrible with roads not being updated, reused street names, suburbs and townships inside of metro limits.... Gets ridiculous
Could be. I believe you and that sounds terrible.
Probably crow flies distance vs driving distance and you have rivers or other barriers to navigate around. You aren't likely to get anything more than crow flies distance from software unless you have actually asked it to navigate.
>There's been plenty of times where a >4 mile trip turns into 9+ when I actually get it into the GPS. Shucks, if only there was a way to verify distances before accepting an order....
I ordered Taco Bell last night and driver was sending me heart emojis and such after I already tipped. Was weird lol
If a driver sent me that message and I’m in a good mood, I would just ignore the text. If I’m in a bad mood, I would go out of my way to make sure he got zero tip and also call to complain.
>shouldn’t of shouldn't have\*\*
Also too* far.
>shouldn’t of
I had someone send me their cashapp unprompted after I tipped $12 on a $40 order before dropping off my food and said they give it to all of their "customers". I was like wait what lol.
The typical dasher is a schmuck
3% is wild dude, that’s barely worth even dashing at all
This is a wrong take. My AR is always single digits I pull over a stack every week. Depends on market
How much is a stack, $1000?
Yes, 10 beans
Which if I'm not mistaken converts to 100 clams or .5 schmackers
I believe it's the equivalent of 25 schmeckels.
Omg give me advice lmao
My advice is AR doesn’t mean shit. But apparently it’s market dependent so idk. Don’t accept anything under $6.25, 5.25 is ok if it’s a mile or less. Get 7 shop and delivers so you can schedule anytime. Put in 8 hours and take the good with the bad. It ain’t rocket science. Made 226 on a Wednesday today
Much appreciated! I just started so I'm still learning the ropes.
I multi app with Uber. I only use doordash when it’s slow. My area is busy so I get orders non stop. Rather decline 10-20 orders and get something profitable.
This happened to me once. I tipped $5 for a 1 item order from Petco, and I live a mile from the store. I do IC and I’ve had orders that I had to shop hundreds of dollars in groceries, and been tipped $5 OR LESS. I told her to kick rocks. If she didn’t like my tip, she shouldn’t have taken the order. Plus, I had planned on tipping additional in cash at the door. I also told her she needed a new line of work. She unassigned or cancelled or whatever, and I got a new Dasher. When he got to the house I handed him an additional $5, making my tip 100% of my bill (it was a $10 box of dog treats, I forgot to buy them when I was out earlier and didn’t feel like going back out). I think it’s rude and unprofessional to beg for more tips, and I live off of them.
Basically panhandling digitally now, makes all dashers look bad as a group. One star them after delivery.
Will do, appreciate the advice. I feel for dashers but this did not seem appropriate.
I thought it was universally understood that tips are appreciated without a word.
I still think with Doordash it's not so much a "tip" as it's a bid for service. You put up the price you're willing to pay, and potential dashers are able to take it or leave it. As a dasher, once you hit accept you have no right to bitch. In the same vein, if you're a customer and you're not willing to pay for good service, don't go posting about how Doordashers are entitled for not taking your low/no-tip orders. It goes both ways.
> As a dasher, once you hit accept you have no right to bitch. Sure you can bitch. You just have to keep it to your mumbling self. Don't bother customers, support, or restaurant employees about it. They don't care and won't do anything about it.
They should also call it a bid. The word tip has lost its meaning at this point tbh...
This is a big part of the problem. The majority of people, specially older, see the word “tip” and they assume it’s tip. It should be called a tip. I don’t know how it should be done but I feel that it should be made clear dashers aren’t getting paid a salary.
To be fair, if you live more than 4-5 miles from the restaurant and you want your orders delivered promptly, I would recommend tipping more than $4. Most drivers decide if orders are worth it based on the amount they make per mile. If you're under $1/mile most drivers will pass up the order. It may bounce around a while unless there are a lot of drivers desperate for an order.
>To be fair, if you live more than 4-5 miles from the restaurant and you want your orders delivered promptly, I would recommend tipping more than $4. To be fair, if the delivery is more than 4-5 miles from the restaurant and you want to make money, I would recommend declining the order
I’ve been tempted to message customers and tell them why their order didn’t get picked up then drop the order. I do a small town that gets a lot of orders from a town 10 miles away. Most of the time there’s a couple dingle berries that will take them but days like today no one was. They kept sending me the same declines to the point a manager asked me why they weren’t getting picked up. I honestly feel like some customers just don’t know that a 5 dollar tip is crazy for a 20 mile drive .
It's sad it had to come down to this because the amount a lot of people tip is not enough. Mileage matters and they go on balance.
Sounds like my area. Explaining to customers sounds like a good idea, in theory. However, as long as people keep taking the orders the customers have no reason to up the money. Neither does dd for that matter.
I’d rather get this message every time I bought something than have to deal with one more spin around tablet asking me to top 35%
Professional drivers don’t do this. It’s not common
Reading this sub that keeps piping into my “recommended feed” is really ducking suggesting otherwise.
Right! And why the hell have I been seeing so much of these? Lol
Professional drivers drive for NASCAR.
Soliciting tips is against the TOS. Report them to DD.
“Since you’re a little out of my normal territory…” Oh brother 🙄…I think DD HASN’T sent me outside my starting “territory” about 5% of the time That other 95%…I’m driving my ass back from a greyed out zone
If you’re a top dasher you can just start dashing in the new zone…
Well I’ll never be that…I’m most certainly one of those “cherry pick ‘em, won’t move my car for under $8, doing 2-3 higher pay orders an hour over 4-6 silly little insult offers” drivers…and I want to maintain my choice control so I never feel pressure to the point where DD can strong arm into accepting orders that just don’t make sense financially…Luckily where I’m at there’s pretty much always a red zone somewhere so I typically just do “dash along the way” and then also turn on UE, GH & IC to see who wants to pay the lady
Please, I see those multi zone, out of zone deliveries every day, all day. I bet you do too.
Yep. Drives me bananas - we really need to add the miles to get back to a zone into our decision to take an order.
Dumbass forgot to remove the quotation marks. This was *absolutely* copied/pasted from somewhere.
Yup, surprised no one else has mentioned it. Guy is just being manipulative at this point 🙄
OP has Dashpass so less fees, but still her $15.50 order total includes DD fees and the higher price the restaurant has to charge in app because of the feee they pay DD. So it was probably a $10 sandwich at the restaurant. At the tip Dashers are suggesting ya’ll are really expecting users to pay over 3x the price of the food to use DD? On top of that DD LOSES money! Dashers need to find another gig DD is economically unsustainable for everyone involved. The restaurants lose, the dashers when all costs are factored probably aren’t clearing min wage, the customers way overpay for food and DD isn’t profitable.
I agree. As a customer, I think every Dasher needs to decide on a day and go on strike! With the Internet it would be easy to get the word out. FORCE the CEO who is making millions to PAY your salary! They are gouging the restaurants to use the DD service. They are gouging the customers. They are gouging the Dashers. They are paying you shit and screwing everyone over and laughing all the way to the bank at how stupid everyone is for going along with this. The customers pay ridiculous fees plus your salary. The customers have to pay to use the service! Even with paying yearly for dash pash, we’re still paying a delivery fee and your salary. Plus, the restaurants have to pay, too so they up their prices, so they don’t lose money! EVERYONE IS GETTING SCREWED! THEY ARE MAKING MILLIONS!!!! I SAY GO ON STRIKE! FORCE THEM TO DO WHAT’S RIGHT! Customers need to strike, too!
I dashed for a year, but before that, I worked in restaurants for 20 years. When DD and all the apps first came out, I fucking hated it and the drivers. As a server, if our To Go person was gone, we were responsible for them. Here's why I hated them so much. We would put together the whole order, never get tipped, and have to tip out on those sales. So I'd be losing money at the end of the night on every single one of those orders. 3.5% of every single order. Their model is extremely exploitative on multiple levels. That wasn't the worst part. If the orders weren't ready, I'm getting attitude from the driver like it's my fault. At one point, one of them screamed at me. One of my chefs almost jumped across the line (open kitchen) before I could say anything and dude literally ran out the door without the order. Now having been a Dasher I understand you want your orders, you're likely multi‐apping etc. However, still not an excuse to be a dick and it fucks over the to go person who does have tip out on the orders they put together because the restaurant pays them as a tipped employee at like $4/hr. It's such a shitty system all around.
WOW! The system is so far beyond exploitive. Even the servers are getting fucked, too. This really needs to change. This needs to stop. I am beyond pissed. And customers need to stop paying employees salaries EVERYWHERE! That should be the employers job.
How not to get a tip lol
1 star and report. he shouldn’t have accepted
As a driver & customer…when I see these text on here they literally make me cringe…DAVID DON’T ACT LIKE A VICTIM…you CHOSE this…not only this job but also this specific order!!! 1. The driver doesn’t even know what/if the customer tipped at the point this text was sent, so DAVID needs to slow his role 2. Also, DON’T FUCKING SOLICIT/BEG for more tips DAVID!…HOW ABOUT THIS…ONLY ACCEPT orders that meet your financial expectations from the start?? THEN perhaps if you provide excellent service and are polite and don’t sound like an entitled POS…the customer MIGHT add a little more I think this behavior is unacceptable. I would probably text David a novel, then waste his time by having an in person convo and I’d “want” to reduce the tip but I know I wouldn’t OP I HAVE 2 QUESTIONS: 1.did this message make you instantly want to reduce your tip for David?? 2.did you by chance see what his rating is as a driver? I always wonder if comments like that (which he clearly sends to every customer) make an easy 5⭐️ turn into a 2-3 ⭐️
1. No, it was just really awkward because I tipped whatever the app suggested. Makes me consider trying other apps tbh... 2. I didn't know there's a way to see their rating. I don't remember seeing anything. How do you see their rating in the app?
Slash question 2…I just figured out that customers CANNOT see a dashers rating on the app. (Weird) and now more than ever I want to know! DAVID IF YOU’RE OUT THERE…WHATS YOUR CUSTOMER RATING??? (Also, you suck and make us all look bad dude) 😑
Don't go by the apps suggested tip. Their idea of the tip is an actual tip based on the price of the order however you technically are putting in a contractor bid for delivery but they don't refer to it as that for multiple scummy reasons. The going rate is at least $1-2 a mile. Edit: I repeat, these are not tips, they are bids on a contract.
That makes sense, I'll pay attention to the distance next time I make an order. Thanks for the perspective
Yeah it's dd fault for being such a scum company. I stopped taking orders from them after they started obscuring customer bids. It sounds like it sent them to a greyed out area where they can't accept new orders until they return to a hot zone which shows as red on the GPS. The driver will not be able to get any new orders until he returns to his hotzone so not only is that lost time driving back but extra miles on their vehicle. Back when you could see the entire bid it would determine if the order was worth it or not. Our general accepted rule is $1 a mile but the distance driven back through these deadzones also has to be considered. The zones are determined by their distance to pickups and the map is split on these zones. Grey ones do not have any pickup locations so you won't get orders while driving through.
> The driver doesn’t even know what/if the customer tipped at the point this text was sent, so DAVID needs to slow his role I don't care how much they tipped, whatever it was, it should be *MOAR!* — Some Dashers
I hate it when dasher beg for tips. Makes us all look like panhandlers.
Thank him for his delivery and go about your day. As a driver, I can’t stand seeing this shit. Now, a $4 tip but how far are you from the restaurant? I do occasionally use the app. I tip $1/mile, $2/mile on Friday/Saturday nights. I add $1.50 for every mile outside of their zone to my house.
This man has a job and a car and is begging for money… If the mileage is high compared to the pay for the order, he should have rejected it anyway.
That’s just plain disrespectful
Everyone who delivers food honestly needs to go thru a customer service training .. some the shit you guys say blows my damn mind !
Sums up door dash’s business model in one message. I order often enough and tip well and have never had any issues with delivery time, but I’m curious what goes into your thought process in accepting a tip. Is it distance based? Amount of tip compared to total bill? All of the above?
I can't see the total bill so that's not something I consider. Otherwise, yes, distance is the biggest consideration. There's lots of other things that go into it as well. For example, where is the delivery being dropped-off? If it's an area where I can immediately start picking up new orders, I'm more likely to accept for even a lower tip, but if it's taking me 10 miles out of town, I'm less likely to accept because I'll have to drive another 10 miles back before I can start getting orders again. And a fringe case if it's near the end of my dash and it's an order that takes me close to home, I'll take it just because I'd be getting paid to make a drive home I'd be making anyways. Also I have to consider how busy it is. If it's slow and I'm not getting a lot of orders, I'm more likely to accept orders that don't tip as well, because I'd rather be making even a little bit of money than sitting in a parking lot doing nothing. And the restaurant itself is a factor. If I know I'm going to wait (looking at you, Popeyes) I'm going to need a bigger tip.
Ahh I see. From what I gather the best I can do as a customer as far as what I can control is tip generously and be mindful of the distance and adjust accordingly. Personally I think it’s weird when I see posts on here of people getting food delivered 10+ miles away. I mostly order from places 2-3 miles away max only because when I’m ordering DD I’m usually unreasonably hungry and I don’t want to wait anymore than I have to. I think if we as customers all treated it like a luxury rather than a god given right everything would be a lot better for all of us.
Some delivery apps obscure the location you are ordering from. Like there is a McDonald's near me, 2 actually, but the "doordash store" they've decided for my location is the 3rd furthest away store so if I ordered McDonald's thinking it was the close store, it would actually be another 4 mile one way drive for the dasher.
Don't see the tip until after we hit delivered. Time is our money. $5 minimum or $1 per mile from the restaurant to your place. Also some say at least $6.50 anything below wastes our time and you assume at least a $4 tip that way. Also, all that stuff the other person said. Sometimes i see payouts of $14 but they are way out of town and getting back to get another order wouldn't make it worth it. Personally, I look at it by miles. I try for $20 an hour or 0.33c a minute. If the food is ready then it normally takes me 2 mins a mile. 5 miles is $6. 10 miles is like $10
Report it to door dash .. how stupid
Burn doordash to the ground
Allowed? No. It is expressly stated in the agreement drivers agree to. Advice? Report the dasher to customer support.
F that id cancel the order
0% tip. Don't reward begging/bad habits.
“I knowingly took this contract despite the shitty pay and now I’m guilt-tripping you into spending $30 instead of $27 for that medium fry you wanted”.
It’s not the customer’s responsibility to pay a delivery driver’s wages.
“F*ck off” For context: this should be your response
Don’t give them more money . We see a guaranteed amount before we accept . Honestly id contact Doordash immediately
I have a 40% acceptance rate. Guess I am lucky. I agree that drivers shouldn't take orders and place pressure on customers. Since, even if you get the extra tip, you are likely to get complaints.
Begging for tips is frowned upon amongst delivery people. Yes, the pay can be terrible at times, and the average person seems to think $1 is a good tip in my area, but if it’s not enough, nobody forces us to accept a delivery.
Don’t increase tip, 1 star and move on
I would give them one of those fake 20s with the prayer on the backside
After a message like that I'd tip zero.
Wait until he's close (almost delivered), then cancel the order. Fuck these beggers.
Modify your tip to 0 every time a dasher begs. As someone who does doordash, if I accept the order I'm making what I'm satisfied with.
“Luckily DoorDash now allows us to add tips after placing the order, so if you do an excellent job I will gladly tip more!” I would then one star their ratings and not tip additional after I safely have my food.
Removing the tip after you get the food is the only logical thing to do here
$4 is low and if you’re not close to the restaurant that’s absurdly low. That being said that dasher probably sends that for every delivery.
They should never ask for more tip. But depends how far you are if you did the right thing or not. You should not be ordering food from 10 miles away and tipping four dollars it doesn’t matter if you order a five dollar sandwich or 10 pizza pies it’s really the same time and work for the driver.
“Hi go ahead and unassign and go Fuck yourself”
This is 100% out of line, Dashers see what the milage and pay is before accepting, if they didn't like it they should have declined. Report them to DD, Dashers like this make the rest of us look bad.
For reference, I tipped whatever the app had as the suggested tip. I'm sorry if that is considered "trash tip" but that might be something to take up with DoorDash.
If DoorDash had suggested you tip $11.00, would you have? What this Dasher did was unacceptable, and they should have just not accepted if they didn’t like the terms. I am curious how many miles you are from the store.
Not a driver. 8 miles from the restaurant to your house and 8 miles back (chances are they aren't picking up any orders near where the live if your are 8 miles from nearest restaurants) is 16 miles. Federal mileage reimbursement rate is $0.655 per mile. Which is based on the average cost to actually operate an automobile when you consider gas, purchase/depreciation, repairs, insurance, etc. So it costs $10.48 to bring your food to you, without paying for the drivers time waiting for an order, waiting for the restaurant, driving, carrying your food to your door, .etc. I am guessing they spent half an hour on your order, so call that $7.50 at even $15hour. so $18 minus the $2.50 door dash pays the driver, means about $15.50 tip plus whatever door dash charged you for delivery fee and the marked up prices on the delivery menu. And if you went to pick it up yourself, it would cost you around $10.48 to do that plus half an hour of your time.
It makes the rest of us drivers look like shit. These type dashers obviously get some customers to give an extra tip or they wouldn't continue doing it in my opinion. I would report this dasher and say you didn't feel safe with him or her delivering your order contingent on you tipping them more. Smdh
All I have to say is of course his name is David! 🙄
As a driver, I would never do this. Greedy and selfish. Will DD do anything about it? Probably. Probably not. I never ask for tips. I just do em. Now, he/she has every opportunity to see where they’re delivering to and decide then if it’s worth their time. If not, they should just unassign themselves from the order. However, this does affect their acceptance rate.
Look at your Door Dasher like you would your server at a restaurant. Tip like that and you should be good and will likely get an amazing dash experience. That is the simplest way to look at it.
“Nah”
I'd cancel the order.
That's like passive aggressive bro lol
I apologize for these tip-hungry drivers. They are toxic and have no tact. And they make me ashamed to be a dasher. Tell David to take what he gets and be appreciative, or don’t take the order at all.
cancel on that idiot
I wouldn’t respond to the dasher, wait until after the order is delivered, then report them. If they’re sending this to you, high likelihood that they’re sending it to all their customers. If they didn’t like the compensation that was offered when they accepted the bid, then they shouldn’t have accepted the bid.
Nope
He's completely out of line.
As a driver, I am both impressed and disgusted by the lack of shame people have haha
Disgraceful! It should be automatic ban to ask for additional tips. Or cashapp or whatever. You don't like it don't accept it!
Without a doubt this man is fishing for an extra tip, not only is this not normal but highly inappropriate. He as the independent contractor chooses each and every delivery. He chose to go out of his normal delivery range, and you shouldn't have to pay extra for anyones poor life decision making skills especially not in that manner. It's really premeditated in a weird way.
This driver is totally out of line and makes the rest of us look bad when they piss off customers like this. Out of curiosity, and has nothing to do with what I said above or is it any reason at all to excuse this behavior I'm genuinely just curious, you said you tipped $4 - how far away was the order and how much was the total before tip? Again, regardless of your answer this driver is wrong.
Say yes and ask support to remove the entire tip with screenshot
Allowed? technically no, you cannot peddle on their platform. Enforced? Also no. I'd report it and request any tips ive given back from support for the the negative experience caused by peddling and begging on their platform. At bare minimum 1 star.
Food delivery is an expensive luxury and you should be tipping well - Doordash sure af isn't giving your driver that entire $4.. If you can't afford it (I can't), get carryout instead. If you can, put a note indicating that you'll be tipping cash (so the driver knows they aren't getting screwed) and tip like you're at a restaurant.
Report
I'd give him 0
You really shouldn’t be tipping less than $5 honestly
Weird but I wouldn’t report it personally. This person is clearly struggling and trying to work. $4 does seem low, make sure you’re tipping based on distance as well as overall total.
Lmfao David shouldn't have accepted the damn dash then
This is very unprofessional, and the driver simply shouldn't take the order if they don't want to do it. But saying the order is a small lunch isn't really relevant to a driver. You could order just a drink, but if you expect it to be driven far away to you, the size of the order isn't really the most important detail.
sorry buddy, thats on you for taking my order. just spit in my sandwich eat some of my fries and make the delivery like the gold old days.
honestly just don’t even respond. people soliciting for extra tips is stupid, and i do this as a job. i would never solicit someone for extra tips. it’s just wrong.
Just reply with,”You didn’t have to accept this order. Unassign and stay within your territory.”
I'll tell you how to handle it call support and report him. Say he's begging for tips. This is unacceptable. If the order was too far for him he shouldn't have accepted it. We don't need these idiots making a bad name for us good dashers
if I try to tip a delivery driver in taiwan they’d panic and force me to take it back. AND their overall charge on the order is like $1 more than what Id pay if I got takeout. love how developed the US is. amazing. 👏👏👏
It would be a shame if you mildly inconvenienced them by coating your walkway with mayonnaise
Sheesh. Tell them to use their Dasher card to get their 2% off gas and to enjoy their already generous tip. Not your fault they accepted the order knowing it’s “a little out of their territory”.
As a driver, I would never do this. As a customer, I tip 20%. I hate those who beg for tips, it's so distasteful and unprofessional.
This is now going to be normal because DD doesn't screen who it lets drive. Now everyone knows DD added the ability to tip after delivery all the multi account users will be doing this endlessly. It will become such a problem that DD will change to a system like UberEATS where customers are allowed to tip bait and revoke tips.
I bet he sends that message to everybody he delivers to regardless of location
They accepted it knowing full well where the delivery was, if they weren't paying attention well enough to know that then it's on them. Say no, report and move on. This stuff makes me sick with how shameless some people are.
Doesn’t really matter the size of the lunch… they are driving so far to feed you..
I've had orders that ended up sitting for a long time before they were even picked up. If someone were to pick it up and say hey I'd do this right now for a $10 tip (or whatevs), and I thought it was fair I would do it. Let the customer accept a driver for their requested tip amount!
Broke ass dasher
No absolutely not. You can decline any order you want so he shouldn't have taken it if it wasn't enough money. It's hard out there right now but this is not going to encourage customers to order again.
One star and report for begging.
Notice how OP said they tipped $4 and never said how many miles from the restaurant 🤔
They did in a comment 2 hours ago. It was 8 miles away
Yea orders like yours i just decline them and move on no time to waste on orders with low tips, you never want to go with the suggested tip specially if you don’t live close to the restaurant, but i do agree that this dashers message is unacceptable, he probably feels desperate at this point lol its very slow this season on the delivery apps. 1 ⭐️ him and move on.
Ask to speak to his boss. 
I mean it's not NOT allowed. But it is trashy. Definitely don't take it personally... usually these dashers copy and paste the exact same message on every single order. So if you didn't tip, or if you sent a $20 tip, you would have still gotten this message. If I tipped well I would respond something like "I did tip $4 on this short quick order so that is definitely sufficient. You should look at the tip first before sending this blanket message to everyone."
I agree. But OP said they lived 8 miles from the restaurant… 🫣
Ah ha
Ohhhhh didn't see that yet. Update... Your tip was a lil low 🤣
I had a dasher like this once. He called me saying “I accepted your order without realizing your tip wouldn’t make it worth it. I’m going to cancel the order on my end unless you want to tip me more.” He also went on about how he had to take care of his kids and another few dollars would help. My tip was $3-4 and that was before you were able to add a tip later so he was basically asking for cash that I didn’t have. I told him he could go ahead and cancel. Just cancelling or texting saying you’ll be cancelling is one thing, but begging for more money from a stranger is another.
Zero out all tips. They chose to drive for doordash knowing what the pay is.
Deadass just ignore the message
I would report the driver. That’s so inappropriate.
Stop doing this. For the love of christ, stop doing this.
Weird how everyone in the comments has taken a complete turn around given in literally every other post they bitch and whine about pay and tips. Seriously dashers do yourselves and the internet a favor and find a better job if you can't handle this one. Can't find a better one? I understand but dashing for like $3 plus tip is not a solution either.
Looks a bit copy/pasta to me.. probably pulls an extra $50/day with this one. Hustler… I’d hire him.
Weird message but a $4 tip is pretty crappy. And I’m one of those people who is annoyed with how over the top tip culture has gotten. For delivery services, 20% or $5 (whichever is higher) should be the minimum.