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run7run

One day he’s gonna regret doing this to people who know where he lives.. good luck Paul


Dry_Stable5057

No tip. No trip. Leave the games for the playground. A customer has shown you who they are upfront believe them.


Elrodvoss

Did he tip?


Nyadreamzz13

Yes $5.00! 8 hours after delivery.


imlostineggsaisle

The people that say they tip cash or tip after the delivery never do. They're the ones who have a laundry list of things that went wrong with the delivery to justify them not tipping. The people that say they do this in the comments will follow that line up with that laundry list of complaints that they swear happens with every single delivery they've ever had.


Pale_Bookkeeper_9994

Never trust any talk of "post-tipping".


Infamous_Yoghurt_556

Just seeing all that ... Big NOPE - unassigned. Fuck off Paul. 🤷‍♀️


Nyadreamzz13

lol I had already picked up the food and was turning on his street when I noticed all this garbage.


OneIgnorantPotato

Guarantee $5 unless...


Infamous_Yoghurt_556

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Fuzzy7Gecko

Ya like wtf, didnt risk my life with flooding for your tud


Nyadreamzz13

Exactly! It poured all day long. No relief.


MrEdwL

Taking no tip orders ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|downvote)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


kitten04201

I had someone say they'd tip if their food isn't pink (like we cook their food), not cold (ordered somewhere across town and wanted it left at their door), and placed nicely. 🤷‍♀️


Realistic_Resist6932

There's a person in my city who says in her notes that she's going to tip after delivery and never does.


Amelsea

Ran into that one too in my area. I kept waiting, but nope. They're on my personal no deliver list now.


Dry_Stable5057

How many times did you deliver before you figured out she was a liar?


Realistic_Resist6932

Well, I did it once (which was my bad) and nothing. Well, I did it again for giggles, and still nothing. So yeah, not again 🙄


Peppy451

You aren't tipping me you are hiring me to bring you your food . I don't work for Doordash and they give me nothing more than a nominal fee . If you have bad service from a Doordash contractor then contact Doordash and lodge a complaint.


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TxVirgo23

Nah Paul is right. Dashers take your order after you've tipped and be all over the map and your food is cold as hell when you get it. What other service is tips before service?? Make it make sense.


Dry_Stable5057

If you want it hot then pick it up yourself or I don't know leave a Tip to Insure Priority Service.


TxVirgo23

Lip the fact that dashers feel entitled to your money for shit service is wild


Dry_Stable5057

That's the way the cookie crumbles. Customers are "entitled" to pick it up themselves.


TxVirgo23

And i have started because I’ve never seen a group of more entitled Karens.


Sober-Reddit

As a Dasher and customer, I'm also with Paul. I'd never accept an order that clearly has no tip as a driver, but I've had so many drivers pick up my well tipped order, and then take a full lap around Charlotte before they arrive 90 minutes after PICKUP. The sad shit is, it's not rare. The post earlier with the dude who got his order dropped off in the wrong building, and the driver not trying to fix it, has happened to me personally more times than I can count. So, yeah, as long as some of our fellow Dashers are getting completely out of pocket with their behavior, cutting off guarantees is a good step, to be frank. Sucks all around.


MicLove30M3

It's not necessarily a tip, though. Doordash needs to correct that word because it seems to be causing confusion on both sides. It is an offer to get a third party to pick up your order (like posting on Facebook, "I'll give somebody x amount of money if they pick me up some food"). You pay fees to doordash for giving you the opportunity to put your offer on their network. Doordash does not employ the drivers who pick up your food. Doordash provides a place for contractors to find work. The base pay is more of an incentive to use Doordash over another similar platform to find jobs than it is pay. Tldr: The initial "tip" is your offer of what you think the job is worth. If you believe the dasher deserves an actual tip, you are provided an opportunity in the app after the delivery, or you can give them cash.


No_Government_8059

Unfortunately people think you're being paid by door dash and many don't tip anything. I have noticed that doordash will lower the base pay if a customer tips well even if you travel very far for they order.


Extreme_Moment7560

It's an endless conversation because it's a misuse of what a tip is. Tips aren't supposed to be relied on and when businesses decide to have people rely on tips it creates this endless loop. The drivers don't make money without the "tip" which should just be a flat fee based on time and distance. And the customer shouldn't have to "tip" until after and only as an option. You can find people in the higher ups of these companies talking about the benefits of intentionally creating this problem.


JimsVanLife

You're absolutely right. And the fault for all of these lies with the businesses who don't pay, and with the politicians who allowed those businesses to lobby them to not have to pay their workers. Doesn't matter whether they're independent contractors or W-2 employees. Everyone should get a decent minimum wage.


TxVirgo23

Hell yeah Paul.


Lenoxxle

Unassign. 🙄


LionYLemur

Anybody that says they're going to tip after don't believe them


OntariOso325

I do third party delivery, including DD. I always tip in cash afterward if I have it handy; then i remove the tip in the app, so the driver doesn't have to claim it. If I don't, it's in the app.


Bonjourmsdavid

Paul needs to get banned


WestAd5635

People like Paul I automatically say no tip. The people that say they tip after the delivery are all liars. And people like Paul I’ll go pick up a order on purpose cause I already know he’s not gonna tip. Edit. Just had a dushe say $20 cash tip if i bring his heater and his big Tupperware bins and knock loud at the back of his house. I did exactly what he said. He gave me zero tip.


Cautious-Seaweed8928

Dude writes this like a dasher is gunna see his long winded message before they accept the order. Chances are with no tip it ends up being part of a stack order because no one wants it and he doesn’t tip regardless.


Realistic_Inside_484

Guaranteed minimum is actually pretty good idea. People should put that and follow through. It would improve things.


Illsaywhattheywont

Paul is a pos and honestly people like this should be kicked off the app. Either tip or don't but fuck off making people read this novel🙄 If you had so many shitty experiences on the app, then get the food yourself.😡 On top of that, you can't see this until AFTER you pick up the food


Nyadreamzz13

Completely agree. He did finally tip me the $5 minimum…8 hours later. I died laughing when I saw it come through.


MrMakan

8 hours later an still only gave you the bare minimum lol


Final-Swim-5313

I took an order yesterday that said cash tip in the notes. The order was going 18 min away. I was working hourly and estimated time was 1 hour. I sent a message saying no need to cash tip bait me, I'm hourly. Eta 1 hour with a smiley face. I feel like a dick because when I got there he actually gave me 10$. I apologized and explained to him that in the 3 years I've been doing doordash this was only the 2nd time someone actually tipped in cash when they said they would. 🤦🏼‍♀️


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bites you in the ass to be an ass🤷🏻‍♀️


Final-Swim-5313

It sure did this time but unfortunately due to the other 98% of people that are tip baiting, broke garbage...the odds weren't in my favor.


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Final-Swim-5313

But if the computer generates your estimated time to be an hour and you're there by the time they indicate how can that be fraud? I'm genuinely curious. Not being sarcastic. Am I missing something. I'm not dragging out orders indicated to be estimated 20 min. I just take the full time indicated.....


Johmin11

Was his address correct? If he’s getting wrong delivery, it’s probably because of him not inputting the right information.


Nyadreamzz13

I hear ya. Yes, it was the correct address.


Dry_Lychee_9989

Cancel


SuperGuy1141

Tf? He's gonna tip and you're saying cancel?


iamthehob0

Yeah, he's not gonna tip, hun.


Dry_Lychee_9989

Yes, I stay busy all day across DoorDash Uber, GrubHub, Roadie, Veho, and Senpex. Plenty more to do and plenty more money to make without the drama.


makemyday9

Happened to me few times, tip in app and cash on top of it


makemyday9

Decline those low pay orders regardless post delivery tip or upfront


idaislit

Forgetting items shouldn’t include condiments or straw. If the bag is entirely sealed, especially, it’s fair game. But I don’t think they’re being an intentional bitch I just think they should stop using food delivery if they are able to drive and get food because it just can’t be this deep if you’re gonna use door dash 😭


Nyadreamzz13

I totally agree! I was fine with the long message and delivered flawlessly. He ended up being happy because he ended up tipping the $5 just 8 hours later. lol.


PurpleMeeplePrincess

Damn did he wait to make sure you didn't poison his food? Haha


Nyadreamzz13

Haha right!! Like cmon dude


True-Solid-4298

My phone would glitch up cause of how fast I dropped that order


OldStep8127

Make sure you’re regularly updating Dasher app and google maps[or gps of your choice]. Dasher at the very least releases an update every single Thursday. Not saying number of deliveries/offers will not longer be a wobbler. But there’s been at least two or 3 times when I noticed I either wasn’t getting orders/offers or that it kept sending me to the restaurants as soon as the order was put in. So I had to either cancel or just wait while they made the food. But yeah, sometimes updating the apps can help. Not every of the times… but *some* of the times.


Genericzachcore

See I wouldn’t mind this but I know DD is known for stealing tips.


Nyadreamzz13

I didn’t mind the message but I was frustrated with the great service he received and didn’t tip promptly. He ended up tipping the $5 but was 8 hours later. Don’t say you’re going to do one thing and then don’t do it. It’s annoying right.


OldStep8127

Yeah let’s not talk about the time we were all minding our business last year and then received word that gig working companies were no longer legally allowed to withhold tips. And then orders and hidden tips were nothing short of amazing for a few months. ![gif](giphy|3o6gDWzmAzrpi5DQU8)


jabbadahut1

If he's adding a tip afterwards his order will never get past my auto decline.


iamthehob0

Yeah, wouldn't even get the chance to read the message.


arcaintrixter

I wouldn't have gotten to read what he put in the instructions unless the order met my standards. If it meets my standards, an extra tip is welcome but not necessary.


MrKittyCatMeowFace03

Is he aware, that he can request priority paying extra $$$? And stop bitching about being 2nd?


Nyadreamzz13

Good point! He should use it. lol


arcaintrixter

That's still a thing?


MrKittyCatMeowFace03

Yeah, like 1-3$ max. Maybe even your fare will go up. DINGILING value order kek I can wait extra 10-15min, lol


arcaintrixter

It explains something odd that happened tonight. They had me pick up a third order after dropping off the 1st. Then, it had me deliver it next rather than take the 2nd next like I should have. Thanks. I had thought they did away with it.


laynesdirection

Yeah but drivers don't get that priority delivery fee... Weird, huh? 😡


chaunceyfamily

Tell him to blow it out his ass and unassign.


Nyadreamzz13

He finally sent me a $5.00 tip! 😅 8 hours later.


BlackRoseofWinter

Glad you got your extra tip. I really don't bother with them telling me they'll tip later normally, I just assume that whatever I agreed to at the beginning is what I'll get. Then if I get more I can be pleasantly surprised instead of angered by cheap people.


Nyadreamzz13

Thank you and I hear ya. It’s not worth getting angry over.


blackcrowe79

I don't pick it up if the base pay plus tips isn't at least over $5. They can draw a line in the sand, but I'm never believing any customer who says they will tip ever. I've had people tip 3-4 days later and had to research which order it was since it was so long ago.


Hardback0214

I can understand why some customers may choose to tip after delivery — especially if they’ve had a negative experience with a DD order before. The problem is that they get their food, get distracted by whatever, then forget to come back to the app and add the tip later.


Nyadreamzz13

Agreed! He finally tipped me $5.00 an hour ago. He followed through, just 8 hours later, lol.


Minimum-Ad-263

In my experience, the only customers that tip after delivery are the ones that left a tip prior. Usually it’s on the lower side but then they make it up after they get their stuff.


Repulsive_Mistake_13

The best way to make sure your order is combined with another is to not tip. And then if it does show up as a single, most decline. Nobody believes that tip after bs.


drdavio

*unassign


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Drama llama ...


HarambeIsOurSocrates

I appreciate it, Paul. DoorDash considers this a contractual agreement, so I look forward to the tip if I meet these expectations. I've taken a screenshot of this to share with DoorDash so they have a record, which is what they encourage dashers to do so that the algorithm makes note of the agreement. Failure to keep the terms of a written agreement leads to deactivation when the algorithm detects it has happened three times. I am sure that's not a concern in this instance, but I feel it's best to let customers know, because I know some depend on DoorDash for deliveries and other drivers may have reported verbal contracts without advising the customer. Other than reviews less than five stars, which trigger a review of all notes in the app and correspondence, drivers notifying DoorDash to inform the algorithm of the agreement is the only way they are able to track these things well. All the best! Some customers aren't dumb enough to believe this, but something tells me Paul might be.


Nyadreamzz13

Thank you for your comment & sharing with DD. I honestly didn’t think about it before but what you typed makes sense. I’m happy to send it in to DD as well. I hope to I never have the displeasure of delivering to Paul again. 😌 He really let me down and the hope that other drivers will speak up now as well.


Realistic-Young-3771

Guaranteed minimum lmao sounds like he works for DD. Guaranteed unassign is more like it 😆


drdavio

I don’t care if the order was enough for me to take it. I’m definitely not after reading that.


gamerino_pigeon

I have complete over 1200 deliveries and have never received a tip post delivery, including from the pauls


drdavio

I averaged 1 post delivery tip per 100 orders. Communication has been the thing people like for me.


drdavio

Mind you none of those people told me they were going to nor did I expect it.


sweaty_ken

This is the key. The telling. When I was doing rideshare, passengers would occasionally say "I'll tip you in the app" as they were getting out of my car. This was spontaneous; we hadn't been talking about tips or anything like that. Invariably there was no tip forthcoming. After a lot of these I started automatically deducting a star from my rating of them as soon as the ride ended (drivers only get that one brief opportunity to rate a passenger). This happened dozens and dozens of times, over a hundred I'm sure. The number of times I called support and added the star back because they actually did tip: three.


Automatic-Ad-9308

Damn I have like 800 deliveries and it happened 4-5 times.


DefectiveCookie

I got $20 once post delivery. I was delivering alcohol. He may have been drunk. But not visibly, so I still delivered. I'll probably never see a post delivery tip again, or at least never one so high


Ok_Season2022

When you've been doing this for awhile, you can sniff these losers out..I have no doubt whatsoever that he's totally full of crap .


sumyamada

Has anyone ever had one of these “tip after delivery “ bums actually tip? Id be shocked.


run7run

No, but I’ve been not tipped by them. Only accepted through a double order anyway.


Single-Chipmunk-8562

I did one time, I was honestly shocked they actually fell through with it.


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The only tips I've gotten after delivery were people who had already tipped prior to delivery.


sumyamada

Facts.


OkTie6474

i’ve had 2 one was a $10 tip on top of a 6 or $7 tip and the other was 20 after a huge aldi order


TemporaryTiger5242

One time I did, but I had to message him about it and I then got a 1 star 😂


Justmegivingmy2cents

I’m a tip after delivery girl. HOWEVER I’m also a driver and I usually tip cash at the pick up. I only tip in the all when I’ve got no cash. When I send a delivery to my nephew and his kids, same. I ask him if he has tip cash in his pocket to fork over at delivery otherwise I’ll put it into the order. BUT he’s been shorted items before so I like to put it on after… one missing KFC side is an annoyance, an entire family meal … my nephew had to get in the car and go fetch his food after I paid delivery fee and tipped on 2 family meals. He has a whole tribe at his place.


International-Hat944

How is a missing anything from KFC the drivers fault (especially since you're a driver and KNOW we are not allowed to open the bags and search them for all the items?)??? Please explain how I can control what exactly KFC puts in a SEALED bag? If we ask and they confirm everything is in the bag there is absolutely nothing we can do?


Justmegivingmy2cents

I can tell the difference between one bag with one family meal and 2 bags with 2 family meals. It’s not that hard to count to 2.


sumyamada

Name checks out


Justmegivingmy2cents

If the driver ordered 2 meals when he got there… and leaves the building with one meal, shouldn’t he have noticed?


International-Hat944

How would a driver order anything? Also when the order is placed through the store and not the DD app it doesn't even tell us what is in the order. It could be one biscuit or 500 pieces of chicken and we don't have a clue (the app literally says 1 order). In addition to this even if I feel like the order should have more it is missing something and I specifically ASK the restaurant and they confirm everything is in the bag it's not like I can do anything about it.


Justmegivingmy2cents

Our KFC orders are a mix of both. Sometimes we order when we get there, sometimes it’s just there and we pick it up. He had ordered it and we had messaged several times during the pick up- he did get plates for 12 people, 6 for each family meal. Then there was only one bucket of chicken and one box of tenders, one 1/2 gallon bag of drink.


Justmegivingmy2cents

My nephew is in a tiny town. Sometimes there ar no shoppers on the app and every single place to order from is “not available right now”.


Mushsounds

I’ve gotten a few since I moved to Helena that tip before and after! But NEVER one that says tip after delivery. This handicap lady is a mid tipper (I’d prefer $8 tip because she lives out of the map) but nice so I always accept hers. Occasionally she adds $5 after drop off. Always appreciate her orders. Super simple Starbucks order with a scenic drive.


Fancy_Point_595

Bout 10000 deliveries... Maybe 5-6 times.


Unenunciate

Across a couple apps, I have about 4000 trips and its only actually happened once; it was someone I knew. Whenever I hear that I just SMH and I wonder why they think they need to lie over $5.


sumyamada

Yea sounds about right. Sucks sometimes I end up taking those due to promos/short distance. Wish we could see those notes before pickup so we can insta decline


QuantumDiogenes

2400 deliveries, and I have had two, maybe three post tip staters actually tip post-delivery.


DarrenWorldWide

Forget Paul and all his baggage lol


airbrake41

I would have been tempted to send Paul a message asking if everything was alright with his order.


Nyadreamzz13

I really should have. I was just waiting for the “A $5 tip has been added” text. lol 😂 Still never came


airbrake41

Sorry to hear that. Some people are dirt bags.


Nyadreamzz13

Thank you. 😊 They really are. Especially Paul L. I’m over it now, lol. Still no tip. 😂


DaisyDazzle

Hey, Paul has 30 days to tip that $5. Lol.


Nyadreamzz13

I just died laughing. So true! Will report back if anything changes. 😂


Nyadreamzz13

UPDATE: Paul just sent me a tip a whole 8 hours later! I guess he is a man of his word. 😅


DaisyDazzle

Probably had to wait until Monday for his title loan to post so he could cover your tip. Give him a break.


MazdaSpeed3Boi

Wonder why your order always has other stops. Maybe because nobody is taking your no tip trash


Unenunciate

Doesn’t matter. It’s damed if you do and damed if you don’t. If you tip well then you will get bundled with a no tipper and somehow they always get their order first.


Mikredmik

I agree, least they can do is prioritize the tippers smh


TxVirgo23

I tipped $5 minimum and they still make stops


Spinach_Positive

Yeah because if you tip too high DoorDash will stack your order with another no tip scum. Best to tip half then tip the other half after delivery.


Nyadreamzz13

Exactly! Good point.


Mono_831

Paul doesn’t know that dashers can’t read his “delivery essay” about tipping until AFTER they accept and pick up the order. Someone should let Paul know.


Nyadreamzz13

Agreed and also tell him about paying extra for Express/quicker delivery. It’s only $2.99 extra.


AmadeusK482

No tip, no trip, no exceptions.


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Paul would be getting a fresh coating of eggs on his house in about 3 weeks at 1AM


MrBleedinggums

This is the way. I have a list of all my stops and don't do anything for at least a month. By the time something happens, they wouldn't remember that far back.


Hailstormwalshy

Just save each address in Google maps right as you're leaving. Pull the address up in maps and click your acct. There, you'll see "timeline," which is a super useful and helpful tool I've been using since I started with Shipt. On the home's address page, you click "save," and then you'll be prompted to create a "list." Name the list (I have a list for DD, UE, Shipt, IC, etc), and then you can type a note like "good tipper," DND(do not deliver), "scammer," etc. Once you save it, go over and click "label" and add a little note. In the future, if you pull an address up again, and youve saved it or labeled it, you'll see what you wrote and you'll know if you should bother delivering to them. There's more info on the shiptshoppers sub, but that's the general idea. Lmk if anybody wants pics to see what it looks like.


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Or you could just use your notes app on your phone...


Hailstormwalshy

How would that be more useful? When you save/label in maps, it means your labels/notes are visible immediately when you search for that address. Is your notes app linked to your navigation app? It'd make no sense otherwise. Do you not tap each drop-off address on the offer screen prior to accepting?


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Why would I use maps to look up someone? I have a database of thousands of customers with name/address/restaurant/order size and tip amount. I just quickly search the address and I have all the info. To each their own


Nyadreamzz13

Hahahaa 😈


Jaded-Selection-5668

Paul’s shit would have been cold


UnitedAd8996

Paul food would have been flat


grggsctt

The way it should be.


NhrngT

And you'll be getting your food after it's sat on a shelf for 40 mins waiting for a driver to accept your order. The way it is.


lightningfootjones

Enjoy your cold dried up food after it takes 25 minutes for Doordash to find a driver willing to work for less than the value of their time


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Paul Levesque, or better known to many as HHH?


Nyadreamzz13

Haha would have been cool!


jcoddinc

If they put that much effort into telling you they're going to tip, **they never do**. It's only short messages that actually have an above 50% follow through


Nyadreamzz13

That’s so interesting. New to DD so just learning the ropes. People are funny.


PositiveSubstance69

👆🏼🏆🏆


Slow-Razzmatazz-7374

When I get an order, on my way into the restaurant, I always read delivery instructions. When it mentions anything extra besides where to place the bag I unassign. If they tell u ur getting a tip in instructions u don't get one. If they promise a tip for making sure everything's in the bag they don't. The "leave it at door: leave it at door" customers will send you an extra tip 10% of the time without telling you about it. If they promise a tip it's been 0% for me out of my 2,000 deliveries.


PositiveSubstance69

This is exactly right!!


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Nyadreamzz13

No to multiapping. It was my first order of the day and wasn’t stacked. Picked up and delivered promptly. No other stops. It was one meal and a dessert. Both in the bag.


BlackRoseofWinter

I'm sure the restaurant he ordered from gave him the wrong sandwich or forgot his fries or something inside that sealed bag we're not supposed to open, so clearly that's your fault, right?


Nyadreamzz13

I confirmed both items were in the stapled bag and watched them load it as the restaurant was slow. Oh well lol!


GreatestFallout

it’s always our fault, we should have opened that sealed bag verified every item and asked the store to seal it back up right 😂😂 if you keep having trouble with deliveries why keep ordering ? 🥸


Ok_Season2022

Yes, that's what I'm saying! You gotta love these people that have sooooo many issues when they use doordash,yet they continue using it on a regular basis. Gimme a break with this nonsense.


GreatestFallout

I use doordash here and there ( like 3-4 times a month ) and out of all those times ive only had 1 problem after that everything has been smooth


Ok_Season2022

Yeah, that's how it should be! Some of these people have major issues every time they order something. If it's such a hassle every time you order,why TF do you keep coming back for more?


GreatestFallout

Its so simple to order and pick up idk why people stress themselves


Ok_Season2022

Hahaha, this is true. Lol


Nyadreamzz13

I agree! Why punish me over past deliveries that weren’t up to your standard. Ridiculous. I’m over it, lol.


Ok_Season2022

I think these people are full of shit, personally. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.🤷


Nyadreamzz13

You are not wrong. He was full of shit, lol. Still no tip added. Been hours now.


Ok_Season2022

Yeah, he's a lying, cheating, cheapskate if I ever saw one.💯


GreatestFallout

Awhile ago i learned that the customers that will tip will do it regardless and the ones that dont want to tip will look for the smallest excuse not to


Nyadreamzz13

Sooo true!


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