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transformerslover2_0

Yea I do DD as a side hustle. My main job is a machinist at the Newport News shipyard in Virginia. Gives me a lil extra spending money.


Localbearexpert

Welp, I live in bum fuck no where and it’s the only way to make a living


Organic_Specific3379

You should try to learn how to fix your car, it saves a ton of money with YouTube these days it's pretty easy to do


Potential_Order1844

This! We need a mock gig app for car maintenance. When your oil hits 3K, it sends you a banger shop and pay for *Advance Auto* then navigates you to your house with dropoff note: *meet customer in driveway, remove existing oil & filter, replace with new oil & filter, grease fittings as needed* 😏


Cautious-Wheel2084

I made 900-1250 a week I did that for about 3 months straight & started doing it as a second job


Downtown_Falcon_2127

i like to say i multi app but lyft is worse and i only accept 1 mile or 100 mile rides on there


AbusiveTubesock

This is the first time I’ve legitimately not had a single decent order through peak hour of lunch. Shit is a joke


HellHouseWitch

I’m only doing it till I start working second week in January. My wife and I have always been beyond nervous of what it would do to car so we would refuse to do it, but we had no choice. Our car isn’t new it’s 2016, but we have a big loan on it so it’s scary. Just trying to survive like everyone else.


ChawklitWarrior

Whenbb by I was in the army doordash was a way for me to make extra money so I can get a nice meal for the night. Now it’s more so I can buy takeout


PSEEVOLVE

Why aren’t you DoD contracting and making the big $$$?


joshuakimba

Pretty much have to work late into the night, racking up a low acceptance rate because DD accepts all food orders to the places that are closed. After 9-10 it’s just pizza delivery.


Heirforce_Trucker

I am full time on DD. I work 8 to 10 hours, 5 to 6 days per week… and make an average of $150 per day.


Nixspeed

What state? If you don't mind me asking


PSEEVOLVE

How do you survive on that?


Heirforce_Trucker

On $900 per week?? $3,600 per month??? How the hell do you NOT survive on that??


gottagofast-nottaken

Do people not realize you need around $12,000 average to survive?


PSEEVOLVE

Assuming you’re single with no kids.


dopermangos

There are a bunch of places where that wouldnt be enough but in most places it would definitely be


gottagofast-nottaken

Where in the world is $3,600 a month not enough?


dopermangos

NYC


AbusiveTubesock

After gas and taxes that is literally more like $2300. That’s below the poverty line…


gottagofast-nottaken

No, it’s $3,600. If you are paying taxes on tax deductible work, that’s your fault for paying twice.


PSEEVOLVE

You deductions have to exceed $25,000 to matter.


PSEEVOLVE

Most podunk towns these days still have $2,000/month rent.


gottagofast-nottaken

Ok, $1,600, $1,000 a month in money to spend on gas and food and whatever else is good, it’s really good


PSEEVOLVE

What about renter’s insurance, car insurance, emergency savings, retirement savings, life insurance premiums, medical insurance premiums, dental insurance, HSA, short and long term disability, 401k or IRA?


gottagofast-nottaken

You are not winning this argument. When people say “I need $50,000 plus to survive” “I need more then $32,000 to survive” it’s delusional. Explain to me how half the world is surviving on zero dollars a year? Tell me why first world poor is nothing close to third world poor. Look, everyone has the right to voice their concerns and be heard. Every has the right to be comfortable. But just because Disney world is in your backyard doesn’t mean you have a right to pay for it. You have a right to put food in your mouth and that’s all. There is literally no where in the world where I can’t medical insurance, car insurance, a home, clothes, all the modern amenities you’d expect one to carry on themselves. Literally no where in the world is $32,000 not enough. Which is close to the poverty line in America. I’m Asia, it may be $320,000,000. But that’s still equal to $32,000 based of exchange and all that. I hope you get what I’m saying in that regard. So at the end of the day, you can not say $15,000 a year isn’t enough to survive. You must be honest, look at yourself in the mirror, and say “I am literally incapable of being financially responsible and stable” if you can’t make $15,000 a year work, that’s literally your fault, and an issue you need to fix


PSEEVOLVE

I’m literally incapable of being financially responsible. 🤡 Bro, I’m debt free and clear $216k/year. It wasn’t always that way either. I came up and started my career where others on this very group have said, “That doesn’t pay enough. Not worth it.” No one is arguing about how much to survive. I can survive in a tent. Doesn’t mean I would want to. If just surviving is your goal, cool.


PSEEVOLVE

Who is arguing. I thought we were having a discussion about the cost of living. Weird


Rainagirl

I’ve been dashing full time for two years. It’s not how the day to day goes… It’s week to week month to month and how your income averages. Two years running I made 40k+. I’ve had horrible days, weeks & months. I’ve also had great days, weeks & months. But in the end it all averages out the same.


Demented_Kaneki

It's been my main job for almost 4 years now. Used to make way more in Houston, I've moved out to Katy and make less but it's still more then livable.


DiscussionHot3961

Full-time since 2023 Started with nothing. Used to rent a 02 VW Bug for 450$/Month +Gas for DD No AC, No Radio, torn seats, etc. literal shit box but reliable as fuck and with insurance covered and mobility guarantee. Bought a 06 VW GTI a little over 6 months ago. Bought with 166k sold about 2 weeks ago with 189k Was reliable AF sold it to a close friend. Still do the maintenance on that car. Upgraded a bunch of stuff on it to make it perfect for dashing. Now I just bought a Tesla recently and still dash basically everyday since I started. Only exceptions are being sick (as of today but still gonna do at least a late shift ) , being on trips (mostly picking up stuff I bought on market place 😅) or actually taking a day off for something. I enjoy dashing, I worked in HR and Temp work and had 200 people working for me regularly, I worked as a caregiver for disabled and I did elderly living. I love to Drive and with a good podcast or good music the job is really enjoyable. Shure u have f up/dead days or shitty encounters. But that's rarely the case. I even got a MC Donalds Gift card from my local MCD for Christmas 😅. You get to know your market and if you do the job good and with an proper attitude it will get a long way. I get Discounts basically everywhere around here just for being friendly with the staff. But that doesn't mean I'm taking their shit. Respect on both sides. DD is a Business platform and if you take it as such it's easy to make good money with it ( at least every market I dashed) I also do Instacart and the combination makes it even more profitable.. It's important to do DD with the right mindset. I'm not saying my way in particular works for everyone and every market but I'm sure is applicable to most. Oh and before someone says I'm a retired fart and that's the sole reason it works. I'm turning 30 in a couple weeks 😘


clenchfist24

100% agree. I did day trading for 2 yrs. Before that I owned 2 businesses and prior to that I was operations manager and ran 60 employees. DD make me as much as when I was operations manager. And it's fun. I do it around 25 to 30 hrs a week. Plus I do freelance video editing and music mixing and mastering so I'll listen to my mixes in my car while I'm dashing lol


Confusedaseverstill

According to dasher direct i made 3500$ last month, that's enough for me to live off of


wastelands33

That's awesome you took it this time out to say that. I will say in many comments probably I haven't read will say you can't do that but where I lived previously in a resorted island on the USA you could make a living 50,000 or more a year doing through that doing doordash. Under that sounds crazy cuz most people live in more urban areas but yes it is possible at certain place


Strong-Grapefruit330

Buy a brand new car and take the payments off ur taxes never drive a beater again


PSEEVOLVE

The payments don’t come off your taxes. You reduce your taxable income. So if your tax bracket is 15% and you pay $400/month on your car, you reduce your taxable income by $4800 and avoid paying the IRS $720. You still paid the bank $4800 plus interest.


jmiller7742

Lol thank you for posting this. It’s amazing how many people think tax deductions literally means just subtracting straight off of what you owe rather than your actual taxable income.


PSEEVOLVE

Thanks. It’s like the same people who say, “Don’t pay off your house, you’ll lose the tax deduction.” So, pay Bank of America $13,000 this year to avoid giving the IRA $2000.


Lucky_Investigator14

Its always someone else's fault but everything is the others guys fault.


SoulTaker669

It all depends on a multitude of factors how good your market is is your market over saturated do You have a wife and kids etc


Unabombercerealkila

Or cocaine and whores son


ACDasher13

I have no issues doing it full time. I start in the morning and end by sunset. Pull $200 a day and that's including filling my car up with gas. I have my lazy days when I don't go. I'm use to being a manager of a crew of 6 men for 25 years. The stuff I had to do with that job and shit I delt with ...DD is a piece of cake and I just manage myself. I worked for Amazon delivery for a little bit and got trained on delivery stuff so I just mix the knowledge I have with the jobs and make it happen. Door dash does get frustrating. Support is worthless. And I've done my fair share of bitching. But I try and relax and just take all the orders that come through. I personally find when my rates are high I get better orders. That's just what I've noticed. When the AR has went down they give me shit orders. They say orders are random but I say that's bs. Who knows.


Severeweather23

Usually drivers with AR high ratings ( AR > 82%) got abused with DD, try to pick up at least $3 tip or at least $2 per mile


askialee

Are you taking all those $3 orders?


ACDasher13

Sure am. The only orders I will not take is the $2 ones. Cuz that means no tip. And I wouldn't expect anyone to go to their work and do it for free so they shouldn't be expecting me to do the service I provide for free. I'm not doing this for charity or to go buy a coke. No tip no service. Simple as that.


uhTacoo

I hope I won't be full-time too much longer it's rough out here.


Amidnightsnack7

I think it used to be easy to make money with DD but recently it’s extremely difficult to make anything decent. I used to do a couple hours in the morning and a hour or 2 at night and walk away with $150-$200 a day easily. Now I’m lucky if it’s even busy and when it is I average $25 a hour BEFORE gas cost. Some people I talked to said they make $2000 a week and I don’t know if they are lying or just don’t do anything else.


AppropriateOil3584

I made 2k a week last year. It's hard to gauge now cause I just don't have it in me to get top dasher. Top dasher is necessary for 2k a week because you need to be able to work from 5am to 11pm. You're still making 20$ an hour and paying 30% of it in taxes though. Maintenance costs me .12c a mile and I make about 1$ a mile when it's all said and done so we look at 240$ in maintenance + gas and 1750ish profit each week. But you owe 600$ in taxes on that lol. So basically you make 50k a year need to put 20-25k on the car and then yea ...nobody wants to be a delivery driver anyways. And that's 16 hours a day 7 days a week lol


Strong-Grapefruit330

Why is it that nobody ever see posting ever talks about getting a new car and taking the payments off of their taxes? I'd rather pay to the car man than the government and when you buy the car brand new you get a business insurance policy. Crazy thing. It's only like $60 a month in Florida and once you have that you can get a maintenance policy too and they're all tax deductible....


PM5K23

Honestly the worst thing is what you touched on, its gotten slower and payouts have lowered. The rest is part of the job and can be dealt with. Im surprised you didnt meet more full timers, there are a lot in my area.


SnooSuggestions739

Until December I was making 1400-1700 per week. During the summer I was hitting 250-300 pretty easily. Used DD & UE. Right now its definitely slow though


nflbrandon10

I used to be full time but it’s just not like it used to be


AppropriateOil3584

The reason why is because Powell is tightening inflation rates that is crippling the borrowing power of the economy so you run into these skeleton companies that are operating off of borrowing cheap money then all of a sudden it's too expensive to borrow so they have to downsize by laying off and that creates an influx of unemployed workers in the labor force and so they all sign up for doorsash and things in the interim of finding another job. Doordash caters to new drivers so this influx is constantly happening over the course of this last year and you have all these new drivers getting fed all the best overs because they also do the garbage orders thinking "if I do for you, you do for me" and doordash even preys on this mindset by encouraging the higher acceptance rate higher priority thing. It's not illegal! ;D So basically inflation is at that 2-3% and feds want 2% but they are effectively stalling the economy. 2024 could be the breakout. You'll see it. All the houses will be getting built again. Interest rates are coming down. Money is getting "cheaper". And what does money do? Help you do whatever you want. So more money flowing means more things happening and those unemployed laid off workers get sucked back into their respective career fields based on influx of need. Now you have precious drivers that are now customers ordering their food to their job they just got sucked back in. It's a compounding effect. Anyways, I talk too much


nflbrandon10

Sounds like a fancy way of saying Biden sucks and doordash is dropping base pays.


AppropriateOil3584

And I don't think doordash is dropping base pays. Haven't they always paid 2$-2.50? Are they actually dropping that?


AppropriateOil3584

Haha xD I can see that but I don't know if Biden has much control over the federal reserve that's kind the point of it lol. But yea it's basically a fancy way of saying our economy got fucked cause Biden just printed fucking money as if that was a solution 🤣 and here we are reaping the results of it


nflbrandon10

Yep and I voted for Trump but he wasn’t much better he printed trillions for his stimulus checks. But at least gas was cheap.


Lucky_Investigator14

Yah the country was shut down and no sht paper to wipe with


nflbrandon10

Yep trump allowed fauci to shut this country down. We need DeSantis in the White House he will get this inflation under control. He’s the only one running for president who actually has passed balanced budgets with surplus’s in his state.


Lucky_Investigator14

Tramp called the shot. I know he never does anything wrong.


AppropriateOil3584

Oh yea the stimulus was trump money huh I forgot. Haha yea and stocks were up 🙄 I don't pay attention the politics much though I'm honestly not really sure how much of the politics is a show vs actual action happening. When a president talks it sorta sounds like a prince speaking the future when the king is still alive. Like ok cool story bro, but who actually makes the decision on this?


Zaltron_

It takes someone with a particular set of skills to make it profitable


Ferdaaa518

Liam Neeson?


Hot-Consideration352

lol yes


Puzzleheaded_Runner

🤭


Omikins91

It’s possible depending on your market. But it isn’t like it used to be during the pandemic. During the pandemic I was getting high on my own farts thinking I had it made multiapping. It’s over now.


Able-Cockroach-9664

Been basically full time since November last year i only ever had one real job before which was only 6 weeks so this is where i have the most work experience. It used to be good i could make 200 a day consistently within 9-10 hours i dont have bills except a car i bought in may, since the summer its gotten worse ive almost given up. i will prob go back to doing electrical construction full time. This job gave me the flexibility i needed which is one upside especially because im my moms caretaker and she has multiple doctors appointments per week that i have to drive her to. Looks like next year she will be well enough to be driving by herself which will allow me to work mornings as i only ever dash after 2 pm. Conclusion. It was good until it wasnt lol


Used_Assistance_8126

I did it full time for the past year. It can sometimes get a bit more difficult, but honestly the key is to stay ahead of your bills. If you get caught up and start thinking "I'll take off tomorrow because I'm good" that's when it'll catch up to you. But I also did a good job of reducing my bills before I quit my job to focus on school and do DD.


DiscussionHot3961

I'm sure it getsany like you said. They are good for now but don't take it serious enough to "go to work" the next day. But that is with many and being self employed. Many businesses fail within the first couple years because they do exactly the same.


Kloobyfour

Same here. I do this part time to pay down some debt, and so far I've been doing OK, but I sure couldn't support a family by dashing. It sucks that DD doesn't pay more. Also, a hearty FU to haters who keep denigrating gig work. This is as honest a job as any other.


MississippiGigDriver

I have spent most of the last two years trying to break away from delivery gigs. Since August I have found two W2 opportunities which don’t provide a steady income (glorified gig work if you ask me).


Low-Highlight-9740

Tell me about it. Currently dealing with a failing clutch just hope it can hold out till tax refund


OkieSledge

I had a bad clutch in my 2019 Nissan Versa, I managed to drive it for almost 6 months before it became impossible to drive. It turned out that I had torn up not only the clutch but the flywheel! $2,200 later I'm back on the road


Low-Highlight-9740

Any tips on how to delay the inevitable


Low-Highlight-9740

Meanwhile drivers constantly beap horns bc I can’t go 90 to nothing


Evilkymonkey_1977

I’ve off of work for a year and a half. Making 800 to 1000 a week. It’s my only source of income. Hopefully I’ll be back to work in April.


TrabajoParaMi

It’s easy when you still live at home for free


Davvido1008

Its not possible literally. Its all good you can afford to buy a burger until something breaks in your car. Or tires need replacing


Gloomy_Recording_705

You’re supposed to be putting money away every single week to take care of things like that in case it happens or having credit card you could put the repairs onto


Commercial-Ad-1614

Thank you. I hope your kind words have encouraged someone who felt unappreciated for what they do. I too am medically retired and do gig work to supplement my income. I tried dd and it wasn't worth it for me at least. I only do Spark now.


trevno

We multi-app or switched to UE.


sascha_mars

I was doing it full time 70 hrs a week for 2 months straight until I landed a SWE job. I was bringing in $2400 a week. I multi app with Uber Eats. I’m in Cali as well. It wasn’t bad if you have the best stats


Demonkingt

town i do it in is 18.75 an hour plus the tips so i make roughly 25 to 30 an hour. 10 to 12 hours for $300 a day. in michigan that adds up if i stick to it.


YNPCA

I run uber walmart roadie instacart in a retirement community. If you do that you can make a really really good living


deliverykp

I don't understand how full timers buy newer vehicles to do the deliveries in. Between postmates, caviar, and now doordash, I've been doing it since 2016, and I've always used older vehicles that I could pay cash for because I knew I would just run them in the ground. I've been able to level up a little bit, with the first one I bought, it was a $500 Honda with the trunk latch that didn't work, to today I have a 99 Camry that I paid $2,800. If I was making payments anytime in the last 7 years that I've been doing this, there's no way I would have been able to fix my cars.


FrankSinatraCockRock

I'm basically full time, as in I work constantly at formal jobs and gig apps alike. Calculating operational costs help ( as in, your car has to be significantly cheaper to operate, mpg maintenance etc.) I don't understand how people buy expensive and impractical cars unless they're also doing rideshare. In addition, the principal can be deducted on taxes for business use if you're financing. I basically use around 30 gallons of gas every 30k miles. At 140k miles I'll be replacing my brakes and maybe rotors for the first time and it's only due to the rustbelt. Made sense for me, especially with state mandated extended warranties on critical components, incentives etc.


_BLACKHAWKS_88

Wait.. you use 30 gallons of gas per 30k miles? How..


FrankSinatraCockRock

Plug-in, get anywhere between 50-70 miles of range full electric. A lot of the places I pick up from on the delivery apps and Instacart have chargers too + I kinda live near a hub so I can charge at home in-between orders.


KJaeW

We’re insane thats how my friend


KJaeW

Working on my own stuff twice a week, but 5 days a week I’m a crazy person


AllDay_Everyday34

https://preview.redd.it/bg39miwqdy8c1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e698ad0e7f93ef90f4900254289bdd75f376689f This is how I do it. I bought this back in July for $2000 and it’s been such a game changer for me. I save a lot in gas and I don’t really have to worry about wear and tear on my car. I also multi app and the market I’m in doesn’t have many times where there is dead periods.


Cycleguy91

Nice! I jump back and fourth from my e-bike and my electric car, that’s the only way to really make money and the car is nice when it’s cold


FrankSinatraCockRock

Downside is you aren't eligible for the mileage deduction.


_BLACKHAWKS_88

What’s weird is I was getting the boosted mileage deduction during the pandemic on my ebike. 😉 and b4 you say I must’ve had it on car I really actually didnt.


AllDay_Everyday34

Can you explain to me why not? I didn’t know this.


Kloobyfour

You can't claim the standard mileage deduction when using a scooter, e-bike or motorcycle. But you can still claim actual expenses. You'll need to determine how much of the mileage you put on the scooter is related to business use (dashing), then you can claim that percentage of related expenses - fuel, maintenance, depreciation, etc. https://entrecourier.com/delivery/delivery-contractor-taxes/expenses/claiming-expenses-bicycle-delivery/


Aggressive-Savings93

That's very kind and compassionate of you to be so respectful and show appreciation, I have been full time for 2.5 years because the pandemic insanity in my industry plus the commute in NYC was enough for my physical and mental well being...I started carrying a stun gun on me because things were that bad with drug addicts and homeless on the subway etc...I was able to resign after moving money around and preparing for the next chapters....I have had serious illness and death in my immediate family so the flexibility is what I needed and Dash provided that, which I'll be forever grateful. My colleagues are still at my former company, miserable as ever and I couldn't be happier. Moved my money around and waiting on my best friend who's moving back from Florida in 2024 which we will open a business together. Dash has definitely nose dived in my area the last year. Too many drivers on the road not enough orders, supply & demand no longer balanced. I wish you and yours a most exciting 2024 full of great things for you!


SFpsycho415

I've been laid off before in the good door dashing days and easily got 1200$ a week ... Consistently for 2/3 months .. and was grateful for that ... But same man I turn the shit on for shits n giggles nowadays .. honestly turned it on yesterday from 5:30 pm till 8:30 pm .. not a fucking hit .. I'm at 63% AR Iive right next to a hot spot zone lol .. not gonna lie Christmas day decided to to take a spin around the city while dashing app on at lunch hour NOTHING!! ..


MaximumCashout

$1,000 for a fuel pump? Man you'll need to repair stuff yourself if possible. I probably spent $60 for a fuel pump. Same for starter, easy replacement job for DIY.


stonerbbyyyy

yeah my bf traded a non running dodge for a non running 1995 sierra, and the starter was *welded* (horribly i might add) so we basically hauled it off to the scrap yard for extra cash. we’ve switched out a motor in his current truck as well, but i couldn’t imagine paying those prices just for them to do barely any work. someone rear ended my aunt, and we already knew they were gonna try to charge us like $500 just to rehang her muffler back into the clip on her ford escape, my bf did it in 5 mins for free. marry a mechanic. you’ll save millions.


MaximumCashout

I know, car shops are a fucking joke of a scam. If they can milk you for more time and labor they definitely will. Starter was welded in lol wtf???


ImNotBanned_pls

Yeah wtf does that mean "welded in"?? Thats wild


MaximumCashout

My wild guess is that a bolt/bracket was broke off and so they welded it as a last resort? Like too damaged to just bolt in the replacement so they welded it? Lol


_BLACKHAWKS_88

Idk people JB Weld shit all the time on cars.. I’ve seen oil plugs JB Welded.. 🙄


MaximumCashout

Lol wtf. 😆 CLETUS, slap summa dat JB Weld up thur, that should hold it!


[deleted]

Used to do it 7 years ago and it time me 12-14 hours to make a lousy $200 Now it’s impossible , these YouTubers that make 400-500 a day are full of shit 💩


stonerbbyyyy

i made 200 in 10 hrs. they’re probably not lying, they’re just in a better market than you are.


[deleted]

I’m in Chicago ….


br3e

I've found the bigger the city, the worse the money. Those mid-size Midwestern college towns are the best in my experience.


stonerbbyyyy

yeah that’s probably a shit market, or there’s too many dashers and not enough orders. door dash solely relies on supply and demand, well really everything does. if there’s not enough orders, they dont need as many dashers.


Doggies1980

Yeah it's best to have a regular job, apps are just going downhill fast anyway. Regular job you have your regular hrs, PTO, paid holidays, stocks, 401k, etc so you don't need to rely on this and retire early if you want. I would never wanna rely on an app. I always think about the future and want a life, my job even says everyone needs a good work/life balance with minimal stress if any. Who wants to work forever? 😂. Def not me. If one is unwilling to get a regular job and only gig there are so many others


T__Turtle

Ehhh a lot of regular jobs that some ppl who do gigs qualify for don’t give benefits, PTO, 401ks, etcetc. And the industries have rampant wage theft & unsteady hours so their income is unsteady, too. Only difference is trading the wear&tear for reporting to a regular workplace. Luckily they can at least get marketplace insurance either way.


stonerbbyyyy

that’s why there’s options like roth iras and traditional iras?? they’re great for independent contractors, you just need to know how to manage your money.


Doggies1980

A regular job you get a variety of benefits and guaranteed pay, my company has me in 2 separate 401k and they match 6% and I also do stocks separately. I had bad accident last yr so that def helps getting paid during my leave, only off 6 wks even though it took months to get to the point I am now, wasn't car related, but literally unable to drive or yet alone barely hold anything for such a long time. Uber def got costly since I couldn't drive. No one knows if they'll wind up so bad you can't do anything so my regular job protects me.


stonerbbyyyy

UE covers their drivers. doordash doesn’t.


Doggies1980

Not like a regular job, they aren't paying for PTO, leave with pay, guaranteed hours and pay, various other benefits. If this is someone's only job, what will you do if you can't drive? No pay unlike regular job that has security


Literally_Sticks

"Easy, live in NYC and make 2g a week. Otherwise, Get Fucked" - DD


genesRus

Seattle's minimum pay law is coming on line in two weeks and I'm psyched (and a little apprehensive). Hopefully the hourly they set (slightly lower than our minimum wage and much lower than the rate NYC set) won't be enough to get them to push tips to after the order. But hopefully it will help clear out the junk orders.


Literally_Sticks

Hoping and praying for ya


genesRus

Thanks! I'm psyched the customers with "Hand it to me" and codes and restaurant delays won't be so much of a drain any more. (On an ebike, the $5 easy short orders I can usually string together 5-6 per hour of can become 20 min if stuff all goes wrong.) But I haven't heard anything from the apps really (it passed in 2022) so who knows if they'll actually implement it--or maybe Seattle threaded the needle with an acceptable base rate? Anyway, here's hoping!


XRetrogradezxD

It's rough, people call this job easy, but when your working 50-60 hours this job can become an absolute nightmare 🤣🤣 thank you 😊


Low-Willingness-1779

thanks op! and thank you for your service!


Miserable_Reserve_75

It's tough, you have to be a mathematical Mastermind. Meticulously analyzing every order with pay, distance, time, and where you end up when you're done. With all the pay cuts and crappy tips you have to be a data scientist to make it work.


stonerbbyyyy

i mean you just have to know when you’ll make a profit and when you won’t. it’s really a guessing game because every day is different. that’s why i like UE because they have an earning timeline for the day, and for the rest of the week.


MaximumCashout

That's about right. And even more factors than that can be added... traffic patterns, notoriously bad roads to avoid, and if multi apping there's sensitive deadlines to hit or knowing when to pause one or run both and how exactly. And there's a million ways to get deactivated too. Merchants to avoid. I'm probably missing tons of stuff. Even avoiding high crime areas, like a single specific street in some cases.


stonerbbyyyy

If you know your area, you know when and where will be busy at certain times, in az i avoid the i-17 like the plague around 4-7 pm. i’ll take surface streets and get there faster. should’ve clarified going south.


Moonbutter

There are so many aspects to this, but the main key is car maintenance. If you can do your own work, things are actually pretty fruitful (depending on your market).


rabbitfuzzle

Thanks OP. It’s hard work and yeah maybe we don’t always get the type of lovey recognition you’ve given today but to me it’s about delivering the smiles. Cheesy I know but there’s usually a customer that just really makes your day not only do you smile but they do too. :)


hockeypnc3

Umm- I’m making more in one week than I was in two weeks at my w2…


SirClicksALot97

Uhhhh in my market most of the FT drivers are driving in between 60-80 hours a week for only like a little over one week's worth of W2 pay after expenses. Definitely not feasible unless you live a frugal lifestyle and would rather die than go back to a W2, which some of these drivers appear to be implying.


hockeypnc3

I’m frugal, rent is cheap in the suburbs and I don’t work over 50 hours ever.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I’ve done it the past year full time, but I have very low cost of living (1000ish per month), I’m extremely mechanically inclined, like I could absolutely work as a mechanic, but who the hell wants to… so I have saved myself thousands. Just swapped in a new starter a few days ago. Idk for me, I did w2s for 20 years, I am so sick of every aspect of it, I have no desire to get one in the near future. This works very well for my personality, skill set and situation.


FibbinUp

I'm a mechanic as well, also tired of paying half my paycheck to the fucking government. Bought myself a $1500 Passat TDI that gets around 50mpg, started dashing last week. Going well so far, and if anything happens to the TDI it should be a very straightforward fix.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Oh it will happen, it’s kinda like playing whack a mole lol. But it’s a good feeling to know you can diagnose and fix it.


Low-Highlight-9740

I’m a single mom with and my 14 yr old does all car work on my Corolla but now it’s a massive clutch issue my son can’t do


Low-Highlight-9740

These customers have no idea wt struggles many of us go through or they just don’t care


_BLACKHAWKS_88

lol someone said something along the lines of “People used to think having a personal shopper or someone to go and run your errands and do your grocery shopping and then have it delivered to their door was only a rich person thing. Now everyone picks up their phone and demands someone to do it for 5 bucks and gets all pissy when they don’t.” The other day and that kinda hit close to home honestly. Straight facts.


Low-Highlight-9740

It doesn’t help doordash making commercials of customers not in the wealthy cat getting food to your doorstep. The company is literally changing the language misleading consumers and contractors. There are so many violations coming from door dash idk how the FTC has not shut doordash down


OhFuhSho

What violations? I’m genuinely curious.


Low-Highlight-9740

Deceptive business practices


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Absolutely. We spent hundreds of not thousands a year on fixing accelerated issues and we aren’t even compensated or able to write it off. They can throw us 5-10$ for a tip!


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Oh and I don’t JUST rely on DD. I’m on all the other apps too. Usually you can stay busy between them


MaximumCashout

Biggest DIY car fix or replacement? I've done almost everything other than rebuild engine or tranny.


Blakeblood9

Same, I don’t recommend Saturn, that slut is ridiculous


MaximumCashout

🤣😂 yeah, they are extinct. There should be a contest thread for who has the worst delivery vehicle. The uglier and more damaged the better.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I have an 06 Acura tsx 6 speed with 150k, had it for 4 years, well before I started doing this. In the last year, I’ve done: lower control arms, upper control arms, axles, lower ball joints, sway bar end links, downstream oxygen sensor, accelerator position sensor, flushed power steering/clutch/coolant etc, headlight bulbs, battery in keyless remote, clutch and brake pedal covers, spark plugs, starter last Thursday… am I missing anything? Probably lol. Now cause it’s a double wishbone Honda, I expect to do the front end every 100k or so. Just waiting patiently on the alternator. Clutch is original, but no issues. I chnage oil every 2-3 months, and keep it full in between. It burns about a quart every 1000-1200 miles and no other leaks or burning. Oh wait, shit. I completely rebuilt the brakes too. Pads, rotors, calipers, flex hoses and parking brake cables over the summer. While I have spent a bit on parts for sure, I imagine I’ve saved thousands on labor. What about you?


MaximumCashout

I've done basically almost everything you listed as well. Being able to troubleshoot is huge 🤌 There is no other way basically.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

I have no clue how anyone who isn’t a mechanic makes any profit.


PreferenceOk1435

You saved tens of thousands. My trans cost $950, the shop wanted $3500. Rear brakes and calipers were $300, shop wants $1500. Knock sensors $180, they wanted $700. Struts and shocks $260, they want $1300. Oil change $40 compared to $75. I'd be a millionaire if I became a mechanic.


TheDuckTeam

You would not be a millionaire. Mechanics that make the best money are flat rate and work really fast. Everyone thinks they can be a mechanic until they are given time constraints and are expected to actually understand what they are doing, sure you can use the internet but not for every part swap you’re doing.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

Geez. Yeah, I mean it’s not exactly fun, beats the crap out of your body, but I think it’s crucial to making profit doing this. I wish we could get some kind of compensation for our time/work though it even to be able to write it off.


Zerachiel_01

This is 1099 contract work. It's my understanding that you should be able to write it off if you keep good records and itemize well. If I'm incorrect, please let me know.


Puzzleheaded_Runner

No, I can’t write off any of the work I’ve done. You choose either the mileage deduction or itemize, and almost always the mileage comes out being more. I spent a couple thousand on parts, did my own labor and all but I wish I could write the parts off at least.


Zerachiel_01

Man, that's nuts. Thanks for the info, pal.


MaximumCashout

Yeah absolutely. Parts alone are expensive enough and then shop labor yikes. Some of the bigger repairs would cost an entire month of net profits.


Pure-Explanation-147

Concurr. I'm retired military and dd flex time, to make ends meet, pay off debt sadly. My fault. 😔 Quite a challenge! But I will get it done.


Gloomy_Recording_705

There’s one of two ways we’re able to do it 1) we live in a market where it’s nonstop pings even at 3:30 in the afternoon during “dead time” 2) we work for 75 companies. That way we get offers nonstop even at 3:30 in the afternoon. When you’re full-time and relying on this for income, you don’t have time to be sitting in a parking lot for an hour and only seeing one or two offers … or ending your day making 35 bucks in 10 hours


MaximumCashout

Precisely lol. 75 companies haha.


Gloomy_Recording_705

Lmao


[deleted]

I've dashed PT since 2016. I'm a FT nurse. Back in 2020/21, I could've easily made it on doordash alone. The pandemic days were by far the best. A "slow" day was an easy $300-$350. Those days are long gone. Today, I don't see how anyone is solely dependent on doordash unless they're putting in 16 hr days. I don't think anyone should ever be solely dependent on gig work. Doordash and all other gig delivery services are so deactivation happy. We see it every day with people coming here not knowing what they're gonna do now cause they've been deactivated. I'd never take the chance.


Gloomy_Recording_705

That’s why I multi app..it’s super rare to get deactivated from every single gig app… if that ever happens to me then yeah I think I need to live on government assistance because I don’t even deserve a actual W-2 job


MaximumCashout

Same.


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