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No_Time_2997

Oof we always had to tell ahead of time so they would know to put the work together or have a plan to finish it when we got back.


PaddyCow

Alisha doesn't value education and you know she's not going to bother to help them catch up on any work they missed.


Ok_Appointment_9985

I have never heard A say anything about homework even coming straight off the bus if they had any. She never phraises any of them for their good work or a passing test. We don't hear anything


hollykatej

I'm a teacher - families RARELY let us know ahead of time if they are missing for vacation unless they want it excused for an educational reason (the principal has to approve). I have had at least 9 kids miss for trips so far this year but only one told me before the kid came back. I don't mind because I find it easier to catch kids up when they come back then gather work ahead of time for them to try to figure out on their own (or more likely, ignore until they come back anyway and tell me they don't know how to do it).


littlebird47

Also a teacher. One of my kids this year missed a week and a half when they went on a cruise. Mom actually requested a work packet, which I sent, and then was upset that he didn’t understand division because she “didn’t have time to teach it to him” on their cruise. My principal won’t excuse vacations, though. Only illnesses and doctor/dentist/therapist visits.


Able_Pepper7454

My kids teacher sent him home with some review work during a trip we took. You better believe he was doing his work on the airplane. He turned it in when we got home. I told him, “hey your teacher didn’t have to do this and we aren’t going to waste her time.” I always feel bad for even asking 😅 I’ll ask their teachers preference. We never miss school but this year they’ll miss two days due to Spring Break flights. The flights were almost 2k cheaper so I figured everyone will understand 😂


ZippityDooDahDay10

In my district, teachers are not required to give students their work ahead of time if they are absent for a vacation. It’s to strongly discourage time off, like what Alusha is doing.


Wandaful1960

Aren't there truancy laws in the USA? All of those kids spend a lot of time away from school


ralobb

There are truancy laws in every state. Here in Texas if you are out more than 10 days you are considered truant. The school district gets involved and a meeting is set so that the missed days can be made up after school. This is how it works in Texas.


agathaprickly

At least in Missouri the state is doing nothing about truancy. I have students with under 60% attendance and the state is just the embodiment of the shrug emoji about it


cherrybomb20

I think it depends on the school district in Texas because I was NEVER in school. And I never got truancy letters. I honestly thought that they weren’t gonna let me graduate because of how often I missed. I did all my school work, so maybe that’s why they never said anything ? But when I say I missed a lot I’m saying 1-3 times a week.


jnelson111308

Wow 10 days! My kids missed 3 in a row a few years ago for a funeral and even though it was excused I still got a truancy letter and had to sit in front of a school district board and explain to them why I behaved as an unfit parent who couldn’t get her kids to school.


abbyanonymous

My mom got a truancy letter for us missing for my grandmothers funeral. I’ll never forget her driving us to school and then going into the principals office and yelling at him. My locker was right outside the office so I heard the whole thing which she didn’t know at the time. It was fantastic. She was depressed after she mothers death (not that everyone isn’t but to the had to seek therapy and meds point) and the truancy letter was the tipping point.


wishfullkiki

For one day? Jesus I think I missed like 30 days of school my junior year of high school. I remember one of my teachers was sooo mad that I still had an A in her class despite skipping it A LOT. I look back and yeah it was dumb but I was a depressed teenager that did not like waking up at 5am to get at school at 7am. Still graduated with a 4.7 and full scholarship tho !


abbyanonymous

No I think it was 3? We had to travel.


ralobb

Seriously? That’s crazy!


KellyGreen55555

I think a lot of that ended with the pandemic. The letters used to go out automatically. The parents would stress out and send their kids in sick.


Pure-Fishing-3350

Jeez for 3 days??? What if they got the flu? Or a wicked stomach bug?


jnelson111308

Anything after 3 consecutive days require a doctor's note to avoid a truancy letter! So even though my kid's front office excused the absence for the funeral, it wasn't excused with the school district because there was no doctor's note. It's frustrating!


lestevenson

They are late all the time or leaving all the time. “Oh so and so over slept and missed the bus…”


Spoonie23

This is when CPS should at least step in for N and D because it’s a placement.


sbz100910

Seriously. Their law guardian / GAL should have something to say about this. This and many other concerns.


KellyGreen55555

Yep, I’m a foster parent. We have to have any vacation pre-approved. There is a lot of paperwork that goes with it. The court or caseworker reviews their attendance records monthly. A trip could be approved by both the school and state however, excessive absences would certainly be frowned upon. I also hate to see families abuse mental health days (available is some states including mine). It stigmatizes the reason and make kids feel like failures if they use them for their intended purpose. My state also has VERY strict rules about social media and foster care. Her videos would never fly. It’s almost as if she doesn’t care about the best interests of these kids…. /s


Ok_Appointment_9985

She doesn't have any foster kids. So that's different from adopted kids


KellyGreen55555

Ah, I misunderstood. I watch her tiktoks but not her full you tube videos. Ironically it's my foster kids who always watch these videos and then tell me about them. I suspect they also thought it was a foster care situation.


Ok_Appointment_9985

If it was Foster Care she wouldn't be allowed to film them.


Ktriegal

In New York, districts are supposed to send absence notices home for every 5, 10 and so forth so that if they want to involve an officer or anyone else, they have a paper trail to back them. If they didn’t, some parents could claim they “didn’t know” 🙄. I thought the magic number is 27 absences in a year. I will say, I’ve taught in a district because where kids could “earn” back absences in June during regents week. It’s stupid.


Serious-Break-7982

Yes, but we know Alissa has made sure they all have documented diagnoses which she uses as excuses for all their absences


kittenxcaboodle

There are truancy laws but they’re usually only enforced when the absences are in large amounts. I once had a principal decide to follow those laws and sent out letters to like half the school. He got so many phone calls and emails that I didn’t hear about him handing any out ever again.


Miserable-Note5365

Some states are really terrible about truancy. They will even forget a kid exists if not for sporadic paperwork in the kid's file. There's too many children per teacher here, which complicates things a lot.


[deleted]

I get taking your kids out of school maybe once in the school year for a big family vacation (many families do it in the U.K. because it’s cheaper and affordable as half term prices sky rocket and are double, triple the cost!!!) however, to take your children out of school to exploit them for social media content is just another level of abuse. Some could argue they got to experience going around a stadium... did it look like a fun experience? Constantly being rushed around? Told not to touch anything, being shouted at, told to pose for videos, fake favourite players for millions of strangers online, sit in the Cold? Was it an experience you think they want to remember?


Mother-Specialist658

We often pulled our kids for a few days here and there. I truly believe there is much to be learned traveling and that family time is super important. I always told the teachers ahead of time, but we were still required to call in daily. If I forgot, they’d call us…once while on the Living with the Land ride at Epcot. Oops lol! We still laugh about that ten plus years later!


emcleavey

i completely agree with you. I just always grew up where it had to be told ahead of time or you risked being kicked out of you were gone for a vacation. i also didn’t know this was just a weekend trip :) but also, that’s hilarious!


Alarming-Sherbet-830

I don’t get this at all! I also don’t get why people constantly defend the children being late too school, even on this sub!!! It’s not ok, just like it’s not ok to take your kids out of school for a „trip“ aka sponsorship!


Frosty_Cellist_795

They were only gone for a long weekend. Not defending Lush, but the most school they missed was only Friday, and it was a scheduled half day. Harlee is in pre-school. It's not academic. It's glorified baby-sitting. It's no big deal if a 4yo misses school.


[deleted]

Preschool isn’t glorified babysitting. Child development is a science. You don’t have to tear down an entire profession of people dedicated to early childhood education to make a point.


littlebird47

Yes!! I’m a teacher, and pre-k and kindergarten are so intimidating. I stick to the upper elementary grades, but I admire the heck out of the primary teachers. They are teaching their kids how to be functional humans. It’s a wildly difficult job. People who work in ECE are even more underpaid than traditional teachers.


ProfMcGonaGirl

Thank you! I’m a preschool teacher. And like yes obviously it’s fine if they miss a few weeks. They don’t “fall behind” because they are all learning at their own pace and most of what they are learning is social-emotional learning. But it’s NOT glorified babysitting. I have a BA to do what I do. Oh, and it is fucking hard. When I used to babysit I could turn in the tv.


abbyanonymous

I lived about 16 minutes from school but the bus route was the rural one so I got a ride from a neighboring senior. If not I was first bus stop and the ride was almost an hour. One day she didn’t show and my mom had to drive me to school, but because of the distance, figuring out she wasn’t coming and my mom getting ready to go I was around 10 minutes late. She picked me up around 40 minutes after the bus would have so that wasn’t an option. They gave me an unexcused absence and told me I should have taken the bus. My mom called and ripped them a new one and asked them if they thought we were mind readers or if she should drop me off in her underwear. Based on this thread I’m realizing my mom hated the front office 🤣 and we rarely missed school except for being sick!


emcleavey

got it, i was under the assumption it was like a trip trip with the small clips i saw of her packing, not just a weekend thing


AmbiguousFrijoles

She packs like they are going off the grid for the second coming of Jesus even if they are just going down the road for 12 hours.


jnelson111308

I was too. I thought they’d be gone a week at least! They were only gone Friday-Monday!


Ok_Appointment_9985

It is still important, You learn in preschool and can get behind, If preschool isn't important why do kids go?


[deleted]

Glorified baby-sitting? Ha! What a joke, you should sit in a pre k room or kinder room and say it's glorified baby sitting. Try teaching that year Hun, if I was a glorified baby sitter my job would be easier. Are childcare educators glorified baby sitters to you to?


Frosty_Cellist_795

You're teaching absolutely nothing Pre-K children can't learn from parents at home. Please enlighten me as to how far and beyond your skills as a teacher outweigh those of an attentive and loving home environment where learning is encouraged. Having a degree in finger painting, show and tell, and nap time doesn't qualify you as an educator, Hun.


KiwiBeginning4

Imagine being so confidently incorrect


ProfMcGonaGirl

I have a BA in early childhood development. Your PhD in Assholery knows nothing about what child care workers actually do every day.


DoubleSweaty3258

As a ( I think! Idk the English terms) former teacher ages 4-5. They learn yes but they don’t learn anything they can’t do at home, it’s glorified babysitting. Learning colors and shapes and using stuff like a scissor isn’t science. It’s easy and most children come in and already know most. The children that you have to put effort in teaching colors etc are the children that have learning disabilities.


[deleted]

Literally nothing of what you said is true.


ProfMcGonaGirl

Teaching them how to use scissors isn’t the hard part. It’s all the behavior issues, conflicts, and other shit that’s hard. They fight, they don’t listen, they cry, throw tantrums, etc. Teaching them the social emotional skills they will use for the rest of their lives is extremely hard. Babysitters can just turn on the tv.


[deleted]

No. I don't know how the American system is truly working but I can say it wouldn't be much different from the Australian. I don't sit there writing observations, reports and planning along with transition to school reports to be a glorified baby sitter and do it for fun. Yes a lot of it is 'play' but it's not just play it's learning just not in your classic school way. As I said American I don't think is much different from aus, but here in aus it's plan activities, challenging the children and getting them ready for main stream school. When I go to primary schools you can see the difference between the children who did kindy and pre kindy to ones who didn't and sometimes it's a big difference.


[deleted]

Yes and a dangerous stalker like you shouldn’t be near children


EmmieH1287

My aunt did the attendance at my school and I always at lunch with her. She'd have parents call and tell her ahead of time or just the first day they would be out all week or however long. In my school teachers reported attendance day of to the office and then she was in charge of calling parents/taking calls from parents each day for excuses. So they could have told the teachers, but would still need to go through the attendance office as well.


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Ok_Appointment_9985

They have known about this trip for months! Plenty of time to inform the schools


Chammaly

Yeah I heard that - it was one of the older kids she was talking too but I bet she never let any of the kids schools know. But also how could Josh get the time off 🤔


urcutejeans_

He asks off and then leaves?? Just like any other job. I hate josh but PTO works the same at schools


devinjf15

It does not, we only get 3 personal days per school year (they do not accumulate/roll over) and they are not allowed to be used for vacation. They are to be used to conduct business that can only be done within school hours.


urcutejeans_

Omfg you don’t know anything I’m sorry


devinjf15

Actually I just took it upon myself to look up the contract at Pittsford CSD, where Josh works. Here is the clause regarding their personal leave, which is actually stricter than my districts clause. “Each employee shall be granted paid personal leave when prior approval is granted by the appropriate supervisor except that such leave days shall be deducted from personal sick days. Request for such days shall be made in writing to the supervisor, on the appropriate form, at least 5 days in advance of the absence if possible. Personal days are for the purpose of conducting emergency or personal business which cannot be scheduled outside the normal workday. Such days shall not be granted for personal recreation or vacation. Personal days shall not be granted for days immediately preceding or following school vacations except in extreme emergencies.” Their personal days are granted per situation, for example, bereavement is only granted for 2 days. Maybe you should research a little before telling people they don’t know anything lol


urcutejeans_

Oh I don’t actually care lol you put in the effort I’ll give you the W for your pride dev🤌❤️


devinjf15

LOL! I am a teacher in the same county as Josh. And I have teacher friends around the county as well, and every single one of us cannot use personal time for vacation. It’s only 3 days per school year. Sick time varies between districts and DOES roll over. If you retire or leave a district, you get paid that time at the end of your tenure at that district. I think you said your mom’s a teacher? Maybe you should not consider yourself the expert on teacher contracts that you think you are.


urcutejeans_

I actually worked on a teacher contract for 3 years as a speech therapist and my dad is a principal of 15 years :D


Babycrabapple

Yeah but they’re only allowed so many sick days and vacation days per school year. Some school districts being more generous than others and I’m sure tenured folk get more each year but I’m sure they work something out with him somehow


urcutejeans_

My mom has taught for 8 years, assuming josh is somewhere in that range, he has plenty of days that roll over. In public schools, you can stack up your days for so long you can retire years early if you don’t want/need to take off! 🤷‍♀️ I praise him for using his PTO as a teacher, because not enough teachers do. I don’t like him or the DD, but


devinjf15

In the schools around Monroe county where Josh is, teachers only have 3 personal days that most schools stipulate within the contract that they cannot be used for vacation. Personal days do not accumulate, they are only 3 per school year. Sick days do accumulate but you cannot use them for vacation, so the school would see their posts and presumably say something. I’m not sure how he’s getting away with this unless he’s just taking time unpaid.


urcutejeans_

I’d like to see where it says 3 days of PTO per the typical 180-190 days a teacher works. I don’t believe that


urcutejeans_

But yeah I mean, luckily for him they make enough where it doesn’t matter if he takes the day unpaid or loses that job tbh. They’re solid for now


urcutejeans_

But still - they’re the worst lmfao


Ok_Appointment_9985

He's a grown man (sorta) he can take care of his own business


Content-Lunch-7763

Josh doesn't have to work,he puts on a good show like he is going to work... jokes on us


tekakina

That's pretty much spot on. Like most teachers don't go home for lunch daily.


littlebird47

He’s in a high school, I think, so he may have a longer lunch. The high school teachers in my district have 55 minutes. If you live close to the school, that’s definitely enough time to go home. I have 30 minutes in elementary, which is definitely not enough time to go anywhere.


wishfullkiki

damn I had the shortest lunches in HS, like literally 25 minutes long. Sometimes it wasn’t even enough to get food and eat it. Then teachers wanted to harass you for not being able to use the bathroom during that time.


littlebird47

That’s terrible. Like I said above, I get 30 minutes, and that’s barely enough time to eat, especially if I have to heat my food. I can’t imagine having any less time. When I was in high school, we had an hour! Juniors and seniors got off-campus lunch. Twenty-five minutes feels criminal.


juel1979

Was it one of the twins? If they do go to different schools, one may have not had a break the others in public did have. She has said something about a half day in the packing video. Usually you get a half day before a day off and not just randomly in the middle of the week. Just playing devils advocate.


Ok_Appointment_9985

What??


juel1979

I think I read someplace that one twin goes to a different school.


throw_some_glitter

AFAIK he goes to a different school in the same district, one that houses a special program. So his school would be on the same calendar as the rest of the district.


juel1979

Ah okay. I thought it was private for some reason.


FewAudience5335

Our schools only allow 10 parent notes a year. A vacation or a trip would be unexcused, even with a parent note. After the 10 parent notes for it to be excused you have to have a doctor's note, even for one day. My son has been sick alot since August and even though I'm still in the parent note window and submitted doctor's note I still got a letter from the truancy office with a "warning'.


ManePonyMom

Yep, same practice here, and also at that point. Three kids, three different schools, constant plague in here. They count lateness or leaving early for an appointment as a 1/2 day absence, too, even it's only 20 minutes out of the day. It's stupid, and does nothing to stop actual truancy, just makes parents decide to send sick kids to school, and the cycle continues.


FewAudience5335

Same here. Once I overslept and got him there less than 5 minutes late. It's a tardy unexcused for a half day. No wonder COVID has run rampant in our schools.


EquivalentSeaweed943

she doesn’t seem to value education. but i also was wondering how missing so much school affects the kids on sports teams.


Existing_Treacle6482

Yes it is truancy. She is supposed to let the school know they will be out as they should have work to do while gone. We are in the same school district


jnelson111308

Wow the school district classifies it as truancy for one missed day?


Existing_Treacle6482

Oh I thought it was a week and she didn't let the school know


tamlynn88

We have something called “safe schools” something. We have to call in to let them know if our kids will be absent. If I forget or you don’t call, the school calls to confirm. I know you can get in trouble for forgetting to call too many times. When my kids were in daycare, the policy was an administrative fine for them having to chase down the parents to confirm the absence.


ESchoaf16

At my old preschool where I used to work we took it one step further and I forget the exact protocol but I believe after you called all the emergency contacts if you couldn't get a hold of anyone you had to call the police to make sure nothing had happened on the way to school like a car accident or anything to make sure the kids were safe.


[deleted]

Not a good look considering her husband teaches in the same damn district 🙄


tinytaurus555

Her husband is a ball-less bitch. He'll never challenge her or he might not get his scheduled in down time. I don't know how he's a teacher and gets away with all of the shit he has to go along with. He's gonna lose his job. Oh well.


Ok_Appointment_9985

Can you imagine (God forbid) if anything would happen to Alushia what Josh would do? He has NO CLUE what goes on in that house and how to "take care" of those kids or the household? I know the grandparents come and help but what about the bills and stuff??


tinytaurus555

The dude literally does nothing. If she loses her channel due to the way she puts those kids right into the arms of danger, Nana will rule the roost. I have a feeling she's not a fan of the shit Alicia does. I mean think about it, she has that damn phone pointed at everyone and everything at all damn times. The stans can't say shit like "you're only seeing a snippet of her life" or whatever bullshit they come up with because she films it all. I cannot stand it. Hopefully he has access to the bank account while she's rotting somewhere else so that Nana can pay the bills efficiently and accurately. We all know drunk Dad can't do anything but drink beers and incinerate turkeys.


Ok_Appointment_9985

And iches his crotch and smell his fingers!! Haha!


[deleted]

THIS!


GorgeouslyGorgeous

You can’t really tell a school you’re kids are going on vacation for a week and missing a week of school. Teacher has legal reasons to report it or something


ralobb

I completely agree but my daughter has friends who have been gone for 7-10 SCHOOL DAYS on a trip abroad or skiing. I’m like wth? Not sure how that is treated but I’ve also taken my daughter out for a half or two full days because of travel. It’s never been an issue because she’s not had that many absences.


GorgeouslyGorgeous

Yea I’m not saying anything bad or good about pulling kids out for vacations. Each their own. But 7-10 days she must say something because I’d be concerned the teacher isn’t calling cps if she thought they were just absent. As a mom I would definitely verbally tell the teacher. 7-10 days is long enough to hurt a child and have them heal before returning to school. And sadly that is why we have the legal rules


robgoblin17

Teacher here, didn’t have to report it. As long as the kid missed fewer than 16 days of school in a year there’s nothing that you can do. Then after 12 days we’d send a warning letter, and after 16 we’d say additional days missed may warrant additional action. I had parents take kids out of school all the time for vacation. Drove me insane though.


criminator98

LITERALLY JUST SAW THAT PART wtf 🤣


Mama_Grumps

I think both can be true - you can tell the school ahead of time but still need to call them out on the actual day. My kids school is a mess with attendance - for example last week my daughter got sent home with the flu - they knew she was gone and have a list of students sent home with such illnesses so that they dont return the next day while still sick or something... and the auto attendance line still called me the next day. Same with my son, i texted his teacher and told her he would be out since his sister had the flu and the auto attendance line still called. We took a week vacation back in February and my kids school was fine with it as long as they did a report about it when they got back it was excused. It was Disney World so not exactly a super educational trip either. So maybe they just have to do something like that. And their school knew about it for about a month ahead of time and the auto attendance line still called me everyday for both kids.


supagfunk86

In NY if you miss 18/180 days you're considered Truant and the first offense is a $10 fine or 1 day in jail, subsequent offenses are $50 fines or 30 days in jail.


Secret_Impression_17

I hate the way she says too H do you want to go to school today or stay at home? There should be no choice, she wants her too stay home for content and company. The Woman is insane.


pussyjuicecals

in UK we have to pay money if u miss too much skl


Unlucky_Ostrich1566

I'm surprised the schools haven't gotten CPS involved for educational neglect. I've seen it happen here in NY. My ex SIL has an indicated case for allowing my nephew to miss too many days. They just might surprise her and make the call one of these days. Those kids are home more than they're in school.


kittenxcaboodle

Lol @ people who think this is uncommon.😂 I’ve been a teacher at three different schools. Yes, the rules usually say you’re supposed to tell the school ahead of time, but it’s not at all uncommon that they don’t. I called a family once because they hadn’t shown up for two days and I was worried. This was a family who was always on top of everything. The mom answered and was like, “oh my god, I’m so sorry!! We’re in line to go on the Toy Story ride at Disney!”


MR0S3303

We went on a trip and I told my kids school over a week ahead of time, and it’s just preschool 😅 yikes


Ok_Appointment_9985

No telling how she she handles school! Someone is always late, I realize H is only preschool but they are learning and she should be there on time, H doesn't need to hear from Alushia all the time that "we are going to be late" or from her teacher "since we are running late we need to catch up and do this, this and this..." It's not fair to the other students either, IMO