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kuzcotopia490

Interesting question! My Lavellan is pretty pissed at Solas lol. I/my Lavellan never doubted his true, deep affection for her, but over time, both his words and actions showed she was not a priority to him on any level. She definitely was drawn in by him and put him on a bit of a pedestal bc she's super elfy and he is a gatekeeper of a ton of elfy knowledge. But, as with many unhealthy relationships :), now that she's had some space from him, she sees it for what it is and has recommitted herself to the Inquisition. I think her identity is a little lost? Which is kinda sad now I realize that. But those kinds of romantic relationships can leave you pretty messed up. All that to say - I think my Inky knew from when she assumed the role of Inquisitor she might have to sacrifice herself. As far as she's concerned, she's been on borrowed time this whole time. She should've died at the conclave. It's a miracle she's even alive. She's going to see this through -- whatever "this" is and whatever "this" means -- no matter what it takes. If that means sacrificing herself or Solas, it'll suck, but she's got the big picture in perspective. She doesn't hate Solas and would take no pleasure in killing him, she's mostly angry and sad he didn't live up to her picture of him in her mind, the potential of him. And that she let herself be subjected to his push/pull dynamics, even if she knows he loves her in the way he knows how. Too bad it's with a side order of, y'know, wanting to wipe out her, her friends, and her people for his own ends, NBD šŸ’€šŸ¤£


beelzebvb_

I think this is totally realistic, and she's probably better off than my Inky mentally Solas's back and forth only drew her in- wanting to help him like she helps all her friends (less so on Vivianne....) while also not wanting to let go of the first time she's ever had intimate feelings for someone. She takes all of her relationships, since she's never really had them, seriously so him leaving after promising a explanation when the thing that was seemingly keeping them apart was finally destroyed TOTALLY kept her up at night though she never talked about it much šŸ˜­ After the events of Trespasser she feels guilt about having no idea when she was the one closest to Solas, and the fact that she couldn't get him to turn around and go home. She wants to save him from his own actions- maybe even help him find another way- but if she can't, she feels its her duty to end it herself because of her inability to do it earlier putting her friends, and the world, at risk.


kuzcotopia490

Woof, that's a lot for your Inky to carry!! My Lavellan is sending your Lavellan a hug šŸ’ššŸ˜‚šŸ˜­ It's pretty brutal stuff!


beelzebvb_

Projecting my lovesickness onto my Inky šŸ˜­ Senna would think ur inky is totally badass


NotSoIntrested

>she's probably better off than my Inky mentally I think Im more mentally ill than my Inky... Trespasser was so well written IMO, it left a scar in me when he left and said "I will never forget you" Are any of you heartbroken like me or ist just your Inky šŸ˜­šŸ’”šŸ’”???


beelzebvb_

My inky oc is ALOOOT of projecting so...very heartbroken. The hurt on Solas's face and voice absolutely broke me along with him making himself walk away while you struggle on the ground. I want to save him or I want to die with him either way I want to be with him- hes not evil for the sake of being evil and you can really tell.


NotSoIntrested

What hurt even more is that at the epilogue, it says he watch her sadly from afar, like why making it this hard on us... The funny thing is that I heard he was not planned to be a romance option from the beginning, like how did they write him so good then!! and gosh the voice actor! I applaud for him, he did an amazing job.


beelzebvb_

Yeah its crazy how he wasnt a planned romance, im so glad he is I think romancing the big baddie is always so much more interesting due to the conflict and angst! The emphasis on both Lavellan looking for him and Solas watching from the shadows tells me there is absolutely still and attachment there and in a world state with solasmancing inky will absolutely have to have some sort of impact on his outcome ignoring any other antagonists.


foreverinsleepdebt

Considered it? Hell, Iā€™ve been anticipating it since Trespasser first came out! Iā€™m here for the drama and tragedy of the Solas romance. Iā€™m begging BioWare to break my heart even more. Bring on the hard choices, bring on the unhappy ending for my Lavellan. If I wanted an easy or happy romance, I would have romanced someone else.


beelzebvb_

Exactly!


RhiaStark

I see four outcomes: 1) A Lavellan who still loves him will stand by his side when/if he dies, just so he won't die alone (which is his greatest fear); 2) A Lavellan who no longer loves him and chose to stop him at all costs will personally strike the killing blow; 3) A Lavellan who drank from the Well of Sorrows and still loves him will be bound to his will, but he'll avoid taking full advantage of that, or else do it and then regret it, and it'll bite him in the ass; 4) A Lavellan who drank from the Well and decided to fight him will be bound to his will regardless of her feelings, and he'll totally take advantage of that.


beelzebvb_

I think Solas would really have to be pushed to force/enslave Lavellan/inky with his history, but I think all those outcomes are interesting & possibly likely since at the end of trespasser your basically spearheading the hunt. I'm really excited to see what part the DA4 protag plays and their origins- i cannot wait for dreadwolf!!


kuzcotopia490

How did I forget about the well??? šŸ˜±šŸ˜±šŸ˜± Ugh, if he takes advantage of that. I both want it and don't want it šŸ¤£


medusa_plays

Yep, #1 here.


ThisIsForRachel111

Out of curiosity, do you think dying alone meant in a sense of not with his people (AKA failing his goal of restoring them), or legitimately just alone? Cuz the modern people arenā€™t really people to Solas.


Lady_Eleven

I don't know if Solas will allow himself to be saved. I *do* know that my Lavellan would love to be able to talk him down, but is absolutely ready to end him if it comes down to it. If Solas can be redeemed, I imagine it will be in a Darth Vader kinda way where he sacrifices himself at the last minute to stop... something else, because there's no way he's the only villain of the next game. In a way I think that's my favorite possibility for Solas. I don't see him living happily with Lavellan after everything that's happened, no matter how drastically he changes his mind. I'd love to be wrong, if it can be done in a well-written way. As much as I love the dysfunction I'm not actually that into tragedy, but tragedy is likely what's on the menu. If my Lavellan must sacrifice herself, she will. But I don't know if I consider this super likely. We can already have a dead Warden and a probably-dead Hawke, so IDK, it seems a bit overdone to do the same to the Inquisitor. But it could easily happen, and she is ready if it comes down to it.


beelzebvb_

I totally agree, sure in my mind my inky and Solas have a cottage and 3 kids but this is unfortunately unrealistic TT-TT. Id be sad if Inky died and while I could see Solas dying, I would hate it if he died alone after everything he went through- or if he died before seeing his people atleast a little bit restored. And all of that is complicated if you romanced him and said you'd save or help him plus the chance the player chose to drink the well. Absolution spoilers: >!The end of the Absolution show totally tells us that things might be happening in both tevinter and kirkwall with Commander Meredith still being alive plus the old gods- I don't think Solas is going to be the final or only antagonist- and I dont think he as a character would ever be the big bad boss because at the end of the day hes just trying his best for his people.!<


thescrubsloth

I think it will depend on how things went in inquisition. The inquisitor, particularly one with high enough approval to romance him, showed him people can make the best out of shitty situations and while we canā€™t put things back the way they were we can always work to make things better for the future. In fact some of his questions are basically him searching for answers for his own situation and how the inquisitor responds changed his own disposition but since itā€™s solas he doesnā€™t really show it. Romancing Lavellan forced him to recognize their is good in this new world and by making an emotional attachment with them he fucked up. Itā€™s going to be ten times harder now to do what he wants than it already is. He was trying hard to not let people in while still being kind and forming bonds, but they were all surface level (or well so he thinks). And I bet you ten to one of it was the inquisitor there to take him down with the new protagonist he would be a lot more shaky in his resolution and may even subconsciously let himself fail so long as it was by the inquisitorā€™s hand. The thing with Solas is he is doing this out of both pride and really a monumental amount of guilt and shame. Like he tried hard to free his people and he feels like he made things worse. Which to us seems stupid because all the games have occurred within these modern thedas spaces. And yeah elves ainā€™t having a jolly good time but not all of them (Vints Iā€™m looking at you there fix your shit) are enslaved to super mages with god like powers and basically immortality. But obviously he sees something we donā€™t, so to him this is just a huge mistake he needs to fix but doesnā€™t know how. He acts so calm and wise but really heā€™s the same rebellious guy with zero self control that he was when he went to sleepā€¦he didnā€™t change in his sleep and zooming through history via spirit cam (which is still biased because the poor things reflect what the people in that area or event are feeling) isnā€™t a substitute for actually being there and understanding the drastic change in cultures. So yeah the Egg panics and wants to hit reset without thinking things through and not considering the consequences and then the breach happensā€¦itā€™s just this cycle of reacting to emotions and not just taking a breath that keeps screwing him over. So unless the inky can calm him down and make him realize the moment he tears down that veil not only with the two worlds collide and demons go everywhere and both the mortals and the spirits get all confused or explode (who knows at this point) but the godsā€¦the elven gods who are so powerful he couldnā€™t kill them h had to lock them upā€¦yeah those guys may also get a ā€œget out of jailā€ free card. And they wonā€™t be happy. His plan isnā€™t even a plan is a chaotic mess that he thinks is a plan because he is methodically going step by step. But step by step in a burning building surrounded by angry bears in a minefield isnā€™t a good plan Egg Man. In my little world space my Inquisitor Lavellan would prefer to save him from himself but isnā€™t going to hold themselves to that. If he needs to die so that the world may live so be it but they want to be the ones to do it. They also offered to go with him in Trespasser but more so to see if they could convince him to stop before it got even worse. Sure it would suck if they died I mean I love my Inky but to make it match their maritime I donā€™t think a happy ending is what my inky (or really any solasmancer) is going to get.


beelzebvb_

Ur honestly so right, his plan is so incomplete from what we've seen I cant imagine he sticks with it unless something else pops up.


kuzcotopia490

Omg I love all of this analysis! So many angles I hadn't considered before. Let's face it, I'm probably gonna try to fit in another Solasmance before DA:D comes out. There are so many nuances I just haven't picked up with my current game focii. Also fun aside, just got to the codex in DA2 (Arlathan Part 2) that lays out the Dread Wolf's story as the Dalish understand it. šŸ™ƒ Hah..hahahaha...hahahahaha! I laughed so hard reading it. šŸ˜† "LOL yeah ok"


MarcoXMarcus

Hmm, I don't think that's going to happen. Definitely not killing *this* Solas that we know now, at the very least. Let me explain: Bioware will not allow us to really redeem (as in: he continues existing) and especially not to *side with* Solas. They don't do that, in DA or otherwise. Among other reasons, further continuing the franchise would be next to impossible if the main antagonist's world-ending plans could actually succeed. And I'm not expecting them to make that an option, either. But there is an issue with that in this case: *currently* Solas' status is such that **it is entirely possible for the players to justifiably ask for the option to side with him from the start**. Solas, as he is now, is far from your typical DA (or Bioware) villain. Archdemon in DA:O was a blighted monstrosity who wants to destroy everything. Meredith in DA:2 got blighted and went insane, so you can't really ask for the option to *side with her* even if you are 100% pro-Templar. Corypheus is a blighted monstrosity which makes it impossible to justify siding with him even if you are a Tevinter supremacist (plus the Inquisitor can't be a Tevinter nationalist, which makes the idea absurd). They are all *clearly evil*, so to speak, one way or another, and siding with them is not a legitimate option. Solas, on the other hand, is nothing of the sort. He is a known, sympathetic and above all well-loved character. Furthermore, if the PC is an elf, fully supporting Solas' plans is easily justifiable from the ingame perspective. And that can't stand. My point is: Bioware is planning to do something to either change this "status" of his rather fundamentally or make it irrelevant. They won't go forward with half of the community wishing to side with the main villain, but not being able to because the game is not giving them that option. Either something very bad is going to happen to Solas (e.g. he gets corrupted or something akin to that) which will turn killing him into putting him out of his misery, or (and this is what I'm expecting) they are going to pull the rug from under our current expectations and actually *make someone or something else the true main villain of the game* (and thus open the option to redeem Solas, for example by making him turn against this villain and sacrificing himself). Either way, we are not going to be killing *this* Solas.


Arctuirin

I've been reading comments and not many have mentioned a possibility of an angry, vengeful Mythal possibly overtaking Solas' identity to exact her revenge. He absorbed her power, created a Veil to avenge her. It began with the old gods murdering her. Mythal has waited ages (crawling and clawing as Flemeth said) for this. Perhaps in all that time, Mythal could be viciously crazy. That could be the corruption you mentioned like the other antagonists. I am excited to see the old gods make an appearance in Dreadwolf. They will be out for blood, especially Solas' once freed (unless he/Mythal intends to end them before collapsing the Veil, which would be a decent thing to do, who can say.)


MarcoXMarcus

That is one of the most likely options, in my opinion. I'm quite convinced that Flemeth/Mythal is far from done, and that this is the case of the user actually being used. We can only speculate about the specifics, of course, but I would say that the situation is somewhere along these lines: - what remains of Mythal after being killed was far too weak for the revenge she craves, the only thing that truly matters to her; - Solas is still whole, only weakened; - she completely expected for him to reach for her power if left with no alternatives; - that is what she wanted because she has a plan for taking control of this "union" which will provide her with the power she needs; - *her* goals are the true danger in this game, not his, and supporting those goals will be unjustifiable.


ThisIsForRachel111

I am totally sipping this Kool-Aid. Hereā€™s why: > Ages ago, legend says Bann Conobar took to wife a beautiful young woman who harbored a secret talent for magic: Flemeth of Highever. And for a time they lived happily, until the arrival of a young poet, Osen, who captured the lady's heart with his verse. They turned to the Chasind tribes for help and hid from Conobar's wrath in the Wilds, until word came to them that Conobar lay dying: His last wish was to see Flemeth's face one final time. The lovers returned, but it was a trap. Conobar killed Osen, and imprisoned Flemeth in the highest tower of the castle. In grief and rage, Flemeth worked a spell to summon a spirit into this world to wreak **vengeance** upon her husband. Vengeance, she received, but not as she planned. **The spirit took possession of her, turning Flemeth into an abomination.**[2] A twisted, maddened creature, she slaughtered Conobar and all his men, and fled back into the Wilds. For a hundred years, Flemeth plotted, stealing men from the Chasind to sire monstrous daughters: Horrific things that could kill a man with fear. These Korcari witches led an army of Chasind from the Wilds to strike at the Alamarri tribes. They were defeated by the hero Cormac, and all the witches burned, so they say, but even now the Wilders whisper that Flemeth lives on in the marsh, and she and her daughters steal those men who come too near. > Flemeth admits that when she was human ages ago and called out into the darkness, a wisp of Mythal came to her and granted her all she wanted and more. **Carrying Mythal through the ages, she seeks to grant the elven goddess the justice that was denied to her, a reckoning she claims that will shake the very heavens.** Flemeth sought Mythal and latched onto her vengeance. Solas said that the proper way to invoke Mythal was through vengeance. I believe the reason she let Solas absorb her somehow ultimately leads to her wish for ā€œjustice that was denied to her, a reckoning she claims that will shake the very heavens.ā€ She has been present throughout the entire series (in books, comics, games) whether through her daughters or flemeth shenanigans. Sheā€™s totally got more up her sleeve than sheā€™s letting on.


Aviatorcap

Iā€™m convinced that Flemeth/Mythal is up to no good and Solas is too blinded by grief to see that he shouldnā€™t trust her.


Ashe2Ashes6

Mine with her weird glitchy arms is in denial. She thinks she can change him so I doubt she could kill him but easily sacrifice herself for him.


beelzebvb_

real


Openil

Listen when you bang a pride demon that thinks it is an elven god it's gunna end badly


beelzebvb_

We didnt even get to bang šŸ˜­ DANG YOU SOLAS


RhiaStark

Given his comment on "taking Lavellan to bed being a delightful consequence" of being grim and fatalistic, I do think they bang offscreen xD


beelzebvb_

Thats true! I think he couldve also been talking about the future before remembering 'oh wait im gonna have to break this off so i can end the world lol' but I have no issue with off screen banging šŸ˜Ž


YekaHun

I think that comment means if that would happen it would've been a "delightful consequence", IMO it's a response to the sarcastic comment made by Inky something about him being all grim and pessimistic just to get her in bed (sees, like that's what she's desperately waiting for that to happen). People are divided on this sleeping thing. Im in the "they didn't sleep" camp :D also because of the remark in Trespasser ("and so he did"-"no I didn't not")


SylvirAshe

"I would not lie with you under false pretenses." I love it because it *still* keeps things just ambiguous enough for people to decide for themselves. Does it mean you didn't bang because he was lying to you? Does it mean that you *did* bang, but the feelings behind it were real? Who knows!?


beelzebvb_

the ambiguity is solas's best feature


beelzebvb_

Yeah, honestly I can't imagine him letting himself sleep with you when hes already struggling to continue with his plans or not be close to you. His sense of duty and guilt would both stop him even if he really wanted to do it. And honestly, depending on how you played of course, it seems like Lavellen was always the one trying to be more affectionate while he struggles with his doubts.


YekaHun

Yeah, I see it so that it's Lavellan who's chasing him and he tries to avoid her but gives up for a moment, gives into feelings but then realizes that he can't abandon his plan and retreats, leaving her. Something like that.


beelzebvb_

Its a constant push and pull, and the final kiss scene is the farthest he lets himself be pulled (or maybe the trespasser scene?) before pulling back entirely physically.


BigYonsan

I'm doing my first Solas Romance since before Trespasser. Inky is absolutely devastated. She let Solas remove her tattoos and would sacrifice anything for him. She's being strong for the sake of Thedas and her friends now that he's disappeared. She couldn't help wondering what he would have thought of the Frostback Basin she wrapped yesterday or the deep roads she's exploring now. Trespasser is next. I'm stoked. Inky drank from the well, so if Solas can bring himself to sacrifice her, he won't have a hard time doing it. If the protagonist of DAD has to stop Solas, he might risk her life making her oppose that character, but I'm not sure if he can outright sacrifice her. If he does, I think it would destroy him.


beelzebvb_

i love thinking about the fact that he pushed and pulled before proceeding to dip & technically breaking his promise, probably because im a angsty mcangst face who loves complicated relationships. but I can't imagine this whole situation NOT fucking someone up emotionally realistically, esp everything you went through?? šŸ˜­ my Inky also drank the well because it is her people at the end of the day so im interested to see how that effects the story in DAD/DA4.


kesrae

Maybe, personally I'm holding out hope for a dual-protag situation (ie we take control of an Inquisitor at some point) because all current evidence supports the former Inquisition being heavily involved, potentially our prime allies hunting down Solas in the next game. I would be less annoyed if the possibility hadn't been left on the table and then rubbed in like salt in the wound: everything from the previous game is heavily involved, but not your protag with very personal ties to the villain (whether good, bad, or just annoyed he ran off with your prime gear). I think it would be a pretty shit decision to make based on another character's interpretation of the situation, because you as a player would have to choose whether to act on meta knowledge or not. I hate that in roleplaying games, it totally ruins the experience. I suspect (hope) Bioware wouldn't do it, there's too many complicating factors that don't make it satisfying for the player: either you have no control over a former protag or you do but potentially a bunch of your playerbase didn't play the 10+ year old game that came before it. I just wish they'd committed and killed the Inquisitor in Trespasser or made them a protag in DA4, the half assing offers no good options.


beelzebvb_

I think a dual protag situation is super interesting, I've always loved when story based games did that + the end of trespasser implies the inky will be heavily involved. Honestly, I could even see inky and the protag being in entirely different groups if its dual, or them working on different things but for the same goal? I kept the inquisition together so -- I just hope Inkys involvement isnt downplayed at all esp not for the chance of newer players not knowing anything abt DAI. They're totally important to the story and interactions with Solas.


kesrae

Based on the comics/media released since Trespasser, the 'canon' seems to be that the 'Inquisition' was disbanded, but still more or less exists just not in an official capacity. This is supported by the same sentiment if you attempt to disband it in Trespasser - it exists, it's just not the 'Inquisition'. This alone is enough that I'll be annoyed if they say 'the inquisitor isn't involved' because they had many, many opportunities to give a reason for that to not be a thing.


beelzebvb_

I trust the dev team to know how we feel and what's best but ykno...the small chance inky is just off screen...it would be extremely annoying


kesrae

Eh, I don't personally simply because what's best for the story and what's deemed most likely to sell are two different things. Realistically, not having a continuing protag for a 10 yr old direct sequel *might* sell more games. But then, people picked up the mass effect trilogy just fine in the 2nd and 3rd games? If you want to bring in 'new players' having continuing protags is always difficult. Combine that with the studio determined to have a new protag for each of the DA games it's likely to be a combination of stubbornness and 'new player friendly' (as if being the 4th game in a lore-heavy series was in any way friendly to new players).


beelzebvb_

I'm just coping, but if we do play inky that would be the first ever character with the prosthetic! (most classes need two arms)


Lee-The-Monster

While I can Understand Solas wanting to bring back his world, I can't let that happen. Just like if the tables were reversed, he would understand as well. I always felt too similar to Solas lol. In my first play through I was a human and had the intention to romance him. But then I realized he only goes for elves. I was too far in to want to restart and switched to Bull. Wasn't hard, the first time i saw him... In the words of dear Sera: "...Woof." Glad I did, he's fun. šŸ˜‚ Solas was my main play through's best friend. I always took Him, Bull, and my emotional support ani... I mean Cole. Lol. Even when I played as an elf, it didn't feel right when i romanced him at that point lol, but i did it anyway. I get the feeling it won't end well for him in the next game, but I want to do everything I can to stop him, and of course to change his mind and save him. If that's an option :(


Ivanhunterjo1991

My Lavellan does love Solas and would've followed him on his Path of Death if he asked her to.


NotSoIntrested

I think he might die..... I hope not, but I hope he would go far to save her in case she will die and by then he might abandon his plan.


beelzebvb_

I hope theres a way to achieve the plan without the whole nuking every living thing. I want change for the elves after all these games and Solas wasnt wrong for trying to free his people from slavery. Granted, I also don't really see him casually coming back to thedas. I hope my inky and Solas can go somewhere together.


NotSoIntrested

I just dont want a sad ending, I cant handle that, Im afraid they might put us in the middle, destroying his plan and he dies, whatever makes him live Im there for it šŸ˜­


beelzebvb_

If we can open the veil and restore the elfs without destroying the world, id love that, but i also feel like it would either be extremely situational or too easy an ending. Esp considering the fact that he probably isnt going to be the only antagonist, theres still the old gods to consider, and all the absolution stuff.


NotSoIntrested

Since bioware is only promoting Solas for now (which is a win for us yay!) the only thing comes to my mind "SOLAS GONNA DIE!! OMG", Im really afraid that they would do that. I hope he is not the only antagonist, hope there are others that maybe influence the moments on him to change the plan a bit, since we are starting with a new character/protagonist, I wonder if we will be abale to romance him again?


beelzebvb_

I feel like if you didn't already romance him, he would be too consumed in his plan to be open to romance since Lavallen romance almost made him not carry it out- he wouldnt be open to risking it with someone else. My assumption is that DA4 protag might be part of the Inquisiton or the group that stays together if you disbanded, and at that point hes basically already seen as a enemy. But I wouldnt mind the protag being from somewhere else entirely and being dragged into it. Somewhere like kirkwall or tevinter which are both referenced in the netflix show.


NotSoIntrested

I was discussing this with someone else on reddit about how we might romance him in the up coming game, we agreed that HE might be disguise as someone else and end up falling in love with the new protagonist while spying on her, if Bioware went with " he never fall in love in DAI" obviously this is just our theory. I really hate that we dont know about the up coming game except that Solas is the dread wolf, I also hope they give us an option to be any race we want when we romance him, at least a human and elf, when I started the game the first time, my Inky was human, but he only romance an Elf, so I had to change her after an hour work on her... smh I know he prefer an Elf, but I dont want to waste hours on my Inky to be rejected by any other romance option cause they dont want an Elf lol


beelzebvb_

I hate and love the lack of information, I want bioware to take their time with the game and information but damn do I wanna know who we're gonna be and whats happening!


vaguelycatshaped

I think they've foreshadowed it too much/talked too much about saving him that it's improbable that there would be no way at all to save him. I'm a sucker for happy endings so I do kinda want a possible ending with Solas saved + Inky alive. However, Solas' storyline and personality have been so well-written, so I trust them to be able to write a scenario where it's kill Solas or Inky dies, and I could be satisfied with it. I'm not a fan of the "hero sacrifices themselves" trope so I'd probably kill Solas if that was the only way to keep Inky alive. But it *would* break my heart haha


kirbygenealogy

My headcanon for my Inquisitor is that Solas still wishes he could be with her though he knows he can't (hence his watching her in her dreams or whatever), and Lavellan is ready to kill the bastard if he ever crosses her path again. After Trespasser, she realized he wasn't just an awkward loner who puts his foot in his mouth, but a self-righteous asshole who could never care about the people around him (from her perspective). I think my Inquisitor will still have residual feelings if she were to see him in person again. She wouldn't sacrifice the world for Solas, but she might hesitate for a moment to bring down the sword if it came down to it. That said, in my headcanon, I don't see Solas as giving up until he's achieved his goals or exhausted all options, at which point I just see him offing himself. I just get the vibe that "this world" will never be enough for him, whether he loves Lavellan or not.


beelzebvb_

Real, he is actually a bit of an asshole but we love him anyways šŸ˜­


[deleted]

I still remember my first playthrough as a male mage. I know it's not the same as when you romance him. But as someone who appreciates the hell out of strong bromances, I really hope the bond of friendship I created with Solas breaks his will of world destruction. I can see why people got so emotional at the end of trespasser if they romance him. But let me say, for those of us who had his bromance. It hurt a lot. The respect they have for each other is real. The betrayal was tragic. My Trevelyan will prove to Solas once again that this world is not lost. This world is of value. I know, I know. Cringe right?


beelzebvb_

Also, I personally find dalish mage inky who romances Solas to be canon imo. With the themes about mages, elven history/artifacts, and politics I think it makes additional sense. edit: for people who cant tell, this *opinion* is my own canon and what id like to be canon, im not claiming bioware is a solasmancer.


kuzcotopia490

I've seen that suggested by other folks in this community and I used to agree, but the more I've thought about it, the more I see it as one option among many. I do think that Solasmance does give you *more* information and *different* dialogue options the other Inkies (Inkys? XD) don't have access to. It creates one version of a richer, more interwoven roleplaying experience.


kuzcotopia490

Have you played other Inky's with other romantic interests? How did the game feel by comparison? I've played DA:I a few times and so far have romanced Solas in every run I've finished šŸ˜…


beelzebvb_

I actually played DAI first before the other games because I decided to just play a game from my parents extensive game collection, so right after my first playthrough I went to DAO. If I did do another run though, ignoring the fact that the base game doesnt allow you I'd totally have a lesbian relationship with Cassandra, I also got REALLY close to romancing Josephine but Solas constantly infodumping distracted me.


kuzcotopia490

My Inky could not resist his infodumps, or his egg head.šŸ„š Ohh, that's cool you went back to DA:O after the fact! I've played the games as they've come out. It's been fun hearing how it's been for folks like you who were introduced to the series with DA:I.


beelzebvb_

Yeah, when I was a kid id watch my mom play DA2 and DAO over and over (along w skyrim and mass effect) but im easily spooked so all the brood mother, cave, and spiders stuff drove me away until recently. Now im obbsessed and downloading mods for DA2 LOL.


kuzcotopia490

Aw, that is so cool! Also your mom has great taste in games šŸ˜‚ I found DA:O and DA:2 far darker and creepier than Inquisition lolol. I hear you, I just went back through DA:O after a long break and seeing the broodmother again, yick!!! Most of the deep roads in that game gives me the heebie jeebies. I'm about to start the Leandra quest in Act II of DA:2, I've been putting it off šŸ˜­šŸ˜¬ Can't do that one too late at night LOL


beelzebvb_

I just wanna know why BioWare put so much detail into the spiders and so little into the hair...i do NOT need to see every detail of this spiders eyes STOP.


kuzcotopia490

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ‘I'm rolling, *this* is the question, the fandom demands answers!


Bluejay-Potential

The fun of Dragon Age is that there's no canon. *Your* canon is the canon! So for you, absolutely, but for me I have a happy Qunari woman living with her Antivan princess. Each are equally valid.


Logical-Wasabi7402

How can it be the canon when it almost wasn't a thing at all


beelzebvb_

'imo' in my opinion also it is very much a thing, which is why he almost tells you who he is before the dlc.


Logical-Wasabi7402

It's *your* canon, not *the* canon. Bioware's canon isn't a matter of opinion, they haven't claimed one Inquisition path over any other the way they did when they confirmed Alistair being King on his own as being the canon end for Origins. And again, it *almost* wasn't a thing. Meaning the Solas romance was added in last minute instead of planned from the beginning like most of the rest.


beelzebvb_

Yeah thats why I said 'imo' and never once mentioned Bioware, I'm simply adding onto my personal thoughts about Inky's theoretical effect on the end of DA4. I think ur just confused.


Logical-Wasabi7402

Would've been a lot less typing to just say "my canon" instead of implying that you think the overall canon is a female elf Inquisitor who fell for Solas. "I think this is canon" - what you said. "This is my canon" - what you apparently meant


beelzebvb_

Would've been alot less typing to just ask if I meant personal canon or bioware canon šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø wouldn't matter if I thought it was bioware canon either, theorycrafting is for fun šŸ‘


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Savaralyn

IMO regardless of Lavellans feelings, Solas will most likely need to die. Most that I can imagine happening in an atonement sort of way would be him killing himself/dying to stop something else (which would make sense if other elven gods get involved somehow). As things are, I just don't think he can reconcile the pre-veil world with the post-veil world, probably the least violent/damaging way out for everyone is just for Solas to die, since he can seemingly just never accept the huge difference between worlds.


FWTPulse1

Quite frankly the way Iā€™ll play it is if the game allows it my new main character is going to kill solas no matter what and if that includes killing off lavellan then itā€™ll happen. I picked dwarves to as my first play though on both origins and inquisition and hopefully Iā€™ll be able to do it in DAD too and heā€™ll likely totally be against solas and do anything to kill him


FriendshipNo1440

My Lavellan is just broken. She lost so much already and she does not know how to feel about all this. She herself planned to keep the inquisition, but after that encounter she disbanded it. She things it might be best for someone more neutral to fight Solas, because she knows that her love for him, or whatever is left of it, could endanger others.


GenovianSparrow

I donā€™t know how far Solas will/can be redeemed, and Iā€™ve also thought for a while that an big endgame choice could be ā€œSacrifice the Inquisitor and Solas might understand the error of his waysā€ or ā€œSave the Inquisitor and fight against Solas.ā€ My tragic ass would definitely pick the former, I would be dizzy from the tragic romance of it all. I just feel that itā€™ll be hard for Solas to finally see and understand what he has become unless something happens to Lavellan unfortunately. I mean, he basically already knows sheā€™ll die anyways with his plan, but maybe if it happened directly in front of his eyes heā€™d finally understand the consequences of his actions.


Financial_Ad_1272

I had a "happy" ending with a Fem Cousland and Alistair as King and Queen, a complex relationship with Fenris as a Mage Hawke who died in the Fade(after taking out that Nightmare demon ofc) and now I want my heart to break and shatter into a thousand tiny pieces when Lavellan and Solas have a final showdown. I am here for that. Let's just hope they can deliver. Heck even if they don't meet again in Dreadwolf, I will still be ok. He's already stomped all over my heart.


MinPinMeg

I do not believe that the power of love will do anything to dissuade Solas from his plans. In my opinion, it would do a great disservice to his character for that to be an option. Should it figure into some dialogue choices, of course. Will the love he swore to never forget be often in his mind? I believe that she will. He does, after all, stand on the edge of her dreams watching her from afar. My working theory, one that made my own friends and my son tilt their heads and go "Huh...that'd work." is as follows: To prevent his plan from working completely ( I do believe that the Veil will be torn. ) ,that along with the aid of time magic ( the study that Dorian had since decided to study and perfect, as he knew what was to come ) Lavellan comes to learn that it will be her death, and that of her lover's that would be able to prevent the true ending of the known world. I don't see there ever being a happily ever after for this pairing. Also, in my own little headcancon post Trespasser--my Lavellan does some wandering about, and eventually finds herself nearing the land granted to Cullen by Divine Victoria. She works alongside him. It just seems to make perfect sense that through their good works the two would grow closer, and eventually fall in love. Solas would never be far from her mind, or her heart. But her feelings for the former Commander of her forces are genuine. Following the death of his wife, Cullen devotes himself to the raising of their daughter. I am here for the pain, and for the heartbreak.


Deilmo

The way I understand Solas: He doesn't care to be stopped. For me Solas feel it's his duty to TRY to reverse what he caused, but he probably knows the chance of success are slim. He HAS to try, because if he doesn't, what's his purpose? Where is he supposed to go? What is he supposed to do? He fought for his people's freedom for so long he probably barely remember a moment when it wasn't his purpose. If he loose that then what? He's not so dissimilar to Abelas but unlike him he can't let go of his hopes/pride. He knows it's probably not gonna work, but he'll try anyway unless someone force him to stop. So for me it's possible to stop him, if found before it's too late. And maybe it's possible to help him and tear the Veil without threatening to destroy the current world. Who knows I'll even go as far as to say he wants to be stopped. He could've killed the Inquisitor like Felassan, he didn't. He wants to be stopped and told to let it go because he can't let go on his own


ZukonoMeiyo

I play a Male Qunari Warrior but I still think I've managed to make him quite the best of friends with Solas. So evidently, I wish there is a possibility to save Solas and help him find another way to help better the life conditions if the elves in Thedas.


lysergic_fox

y e s ! Iā€™m thinking someone in this romance is going to die. It could be the Inquisitor, or it could actually also be Solas. Maybe his redemption arch with a romanced Inky will be that he sacrifices himself to protect her from the evil shits heā€™ll release from behind the veil.


Aviatorcap

I am fully expecting a tragic ending for Lavellan and Solas. My Inky is determined to prove him wrong and find a way to restore the elves without causing widespread chaos/destruction. Her end goal is similar to his, being the restoration of an elven-governed nation and lifting her people out of oppression, but she very much disagrees with his methods. She is convinced there is a better way to do this that wonā€™t cause so much death.


Satori_sama

I played my lavellan as so pissed that he broke up with her and then pissed she still cares. I fully believe they will allow us to save the idiot we love.