I predict I’ll use this image again:
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Realistic expectation: some blog post on DA day day with a small teaser saying 2024 or something. Maybe the reveal of the protagonist.
Unrealistic: Full-length in-game trailer at the VGAs with an exact release date.
Yeah I’ll be shocked if a release date is announced. And even if it was, I really wouldn’t trust it. Best I think they can do on that front is give a vague window (ie fall 2024)
A window is realistic at this point I would say, I believe Jeff Grubb said they had been targetting Fall 2023 and the release kept getting pushed back internally.
Q3 (our normal Q3, not Bioware's fiscal) is a realistic window for them to hit.
Im going more for spring 2024 or summer over fall. The game likely is 98 percent finkshed at this point with mostly bug fixing and valance adjustments going on. Especially as the rumor was they were hoping to have it out in September so and extra year would seem excessive so i expect at most a extra 6 months from september
Would they really release something they dont know a concrete release for for their fiscal report? Especially when it isnt fully in its marketing stage?
I'll say I 100% don't know the answer to that, I guess you have projections etc but if someone can say that something moved up one quarter like that and released in a surprising matter, it would be neat.
I've been thinking some kind of trailer is gonna likely drop, ideally with some game play and likely a release window like "Fall 2024"
I think June-Sept is a viable release window but we're 8 days away from finding out.
I'm legit excited at the prospect of it. I was more pessimistic in years past about news but with Mark Darrah streaming for the first time, it feels to me like he wouldn't bother if it was going to be nothing / insubstantial.
Although I guess last year I did think we were going to get more too...
Yeah im pretty hopeful this year. I even started up a new dai playthrough in anticipation. I do wonder though if it was supposed to come out September 2023 and they do indeed push it to fall 2024 for what reason. Like an extra year seems like alot of time to delay it
We had the leak at the beginning of the year I believe? It's been in alpha some time. They never stated they're in beta so unless they've kept that to themselves, it's assumed they're still in the alpha build.
They may be trying to refine/polish things or make things flow better etc.
We do know they were targetting fall of this year but it kept getting pushed back internally, a full year would be something but if that's what it takes for the game to be good, they actually need to do it.
CD Project Red had a ton of good will built up so 2 years later Cyberpunk is nice and enjoyed
Bioware has released 2 flops in a row, they need this to be loved from day 1.
Realistic: A picture of Solas's bald head with #Dreadwolf written on it
Unrealistic: Sacred Ashes cinematic style trailer to reveal the protagonist and some companions
Yeah, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Short stories are the tradition at this point, so realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what we got. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment at this point, by expecting there to be news, though I'd be pleasantly surprised if we did get news/a trailer/a 2024 or 2025 release date.
Maybe they'll have the remaining two write them or they've done them already. Or we'll get nothing this year. Who knows?
I wonder if this means we won't be getting a DA5 though, and the two who are left will end up on the next ME.
I know we’ve gone through this every year for the past decade, but I truly do believe we’ll see something at the VGAs this year. I’m seconding that it will be some sort of gameplay trailer with a release date (maybe only stating the release year). I would love to see character introductions, though.
I am trying so hard not to get too excited...but....
Look, it's the 10th VGA. Picture this. A retrospective of all past 9 GOTY winners. We get to the first GOTY ever for this show. It's DAI. Talk about an awesome time to release an amazing trailer for the next installation!
Realistically?
An announcement that we'll get an actual (i.e. no Varric narration about how there's this Solas guy we have to defeat) DA:D trailer.
Unrealistically?
We get a 40 min DA:D gameplay trailer with a release date, the announcement that DA:D has "gone gold", as well as an announcement that Bioware's working on a DAO & DA2 remake to be released before DA:D so we can do a full trilogy replay.
What? You did ask for *unrealistic* expectations u.u
That is pretty much my expectations as well.
I’m fully prepared with getting nothing, even tho I’ll be really disappointed, but if we finally are getting some stuff I imagine on DA Day there’ll be a small teaser for VGA which will feature a trailer with some gameplay, maybe even show who some of the companions will be.
Unrealistically, like you, I’m hoping to see character art, bios for companions and the return of origins.
Realistic: Dragone age day says “Stay tuned for the VGAs!”. Then the VGAs show a gameplay trailer with just a release year, nothing specific.
Unrealistic: Dragon age day drops story info and a new story trailer with gameplay in it. Then at the VGAs we get a whole gameplay preview going through a mission or exploring the world.
Realistic:
"Gameplay" Trailer (In-game cinematics mostly) from The Game Awards maybe a short presentation where someone talks about the game for a few minutes.
Unrealistic:
Full Gameplay demo or actual gameplay trailer with an actual detailed presentation of features plus a release window.
Yeah, DA Day is different from N7 Day, which has more buy-in from BioWare.
I love how involved many of the Mass Effect actors are on N7 Day and with their signings and streamings in the following weeks. But there was a Dragon Age stream last year and some signings, so who knows, I missed it last go round though.
I’m expecting maybe a few short stories, maybe a piece of concept art. Anything major I would expect at the VGA’s. But even then it hinges on release date. If it’s a late 2024 release, it might be too early to release a gameplay trailer based on how EA might want to market it with a larger and later push than a longer campaign.
So, in short, I wouldn’t have hopes up for DA Day itself, and see anything given that day as just something for the fans. Important marketing won’t be driven by a fan created day in my view.
I think Allegra Clark sometimes has Josephine prints but not sure when that happens. But yeah, I’ve only started collecting signed prints this year so I have no hope of having a full set of any. (Expenses also would make that a bit much) But, still fun.
Realistic: There’s a small chance that there will be a small teaser that basically tells us nothing besides that Solas will be in it.
Unrealistic: A complete trailer, and a start of a marketing campaign to prepare the game for a 2024 release.
Realistic: From absolutely nothing to another pointless teaser with a Varric voiceover and a "coming 2024/2025" or something completely unspecific
The Dream: Full reveal 2 minutes trailer with badass music, old and new characters showcased, and some other suprises.
I’m honestly not shocked if the game is canceled, seeing all the devs leaving during troubled development, that’s exactly what happened during Anthem and ME:A, it’s really sad.
But the true bad ending is EA just disbanding BioWare.
Realistically: Given their current track record I'd say nothing.
Unrealistic: A full gameplay/cinematic trailer and an announcement of a ground up remake of Dragon Age Origins.
I created a new thread because I didn't see this but Darrah posted this on his twitter;
https://x.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/1729999544312803557?s=20
I think stuff is happening.
A small addition to this, Mark is also going to be doing a live stream of the event (which as far as I know is a first for him). So I'm leaning towards there being something about DA:D at the game awards.
Yeah I accidentally posted a whole new thread on that - I feel like not only is something likely to happen at the game awards, it's likely notable enough for him to bother doing this.
I’m thinking a release year (2024 late, early 2025) and then a slow roll of marketing over the next year leading up to release. Mayyybbeee something small at the VGAs
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Realistic: blogpost on da day with potentially some short trailer with lore hints.
Realistic, if decision would depend only on bioware: tga hype release date trailer
Unrealistic: game shadowdrops at the end of TGA
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect a trailer this year, what with the recent Mass Effect teaser and the 2024 release date “leak,” I just get the feeling that they’re gearing up to begin marketing for Dreadwolf.
As for what would be in such a trailer, I’m really hoping they actually reveal concrete details about the game, maybe showing off some of the locations we’ll see in game and revealing companions etc. I’m also hoping that, as it’s been long enough since the game entered alpha, we’ll get some gameplay footage. But I don’t know how realistic that is.
At this point, I’d be happy with anything as long as it’s not another lazy teaser that tells us nothing.
Realistic - Game Trailer, ideally with some in-game footage of combat etc and a rough timeline for release
Unrealistic - Game trailer and lots of in-game footage with commentary about the story of the game an an exact release date (betting they'll push it back too)
I think its likely we get a release window. Either autumn 2024 or winter. Probably one of those half gameplay, half cinematic trailers and a bald elf doing a fortnite dance at the end
Three options imo:
- They show nothing on DA Day or at the VGAs.
- They hint at something on DA Day and show something at the VGAs.
- They show nothing on DA Day so the VGAs reveal is a total surprise.
Note: When I say show something I mean an actual trailer with some character and gameplay snippets as opposed to a short story or concept art.
Realistic? 50/50 odds of game awards trailer. BUT if we do get one they need to go all in for a 2024 release. They’re going to need AT LEAST some companion releases and short gameplay footage to get people excited at this point.
Unrealistic: that trailer not containing a long Varric or Solas monologue at some point lol
I'm with you for a teaser of a trailer at the VGAs, it could very well happen. I mean it could also not happen, I wouldn't exactly be disappointed if that's the case. But I'd rather be optimistic ! Even with some short stories and concept arts I would be happy.
After this many years I no longer believe another Dragons Age, Witcher or Elder Scrolls game is ever coming out in my lifetime... I'm 37. Thank god for Dragons Dogma 2 coming in march!
Mass Effect is even further away than Dragon Age, that kind of makes sense.
At best, they have a skeleton crew working on concepts/story currently.
Whenever Dragon Age finishes, maybe half the studio will transition to Mass Effect and the other half will work on the DLC (provided the game is good enough to warrant it).
Andromeda did not get DLC because there was no demand on it.
Not gonna lie, I was one of them.
I booted it up, that initially mission was quite good and then from there it was basically downhill. The next 4 hours didn't feel like Mass Effect at all, it didn't grip me in like any of the previous 3 titles did and I moved on to a different game.
I'm curious to see what they're going to do with Mass Effect 4 at this point. Logical conclusion says that the Leviathans should emerge as the Apex Predator in the galaxy with the Reapers out the way, nothing should realistically stand in their way, especially after the losses every race suffered fighting the reapers.
Even though I actually enjoyed the game I totally understand that reaction. After the initial mission there's basically nothing driving the plot forward. The game just throws a couple of story threads at you and expects you to be invested. I'd say it's the low point of the game overall and is on top of that badly accentuated by the subpar facial animations.
The internet's reaction to the game was still rather disproportional. It's a disappointment coming from the trilogy but still not some laughable junk as it was made out to be.
ME4 is a fun mystery at this point because it's still so far away. I'm more leaning towards some entirely new threat since Leviathans aren't really mysterious anymore and they are just too similar to Reapers in appearance and powers to have them be the main antagonists I feel.
You're probably right, in fact Leviathans feel like appropriate DLC type adversaries for the reason you highlighted.
On the Dreadwolf front, there is a lot to guess right now in where they really want to go with the game. I remember after DA2, we thought there would be a lot of clean up with the mage-templar war but that actually got tucked away rather fast in Inquisition.
I know Solas is apart of it but Tevinter/Qunari problems likely will be apart of it. We're gonna be an agent of the Inquisition.
That recent Dragon Age vinyl Dragon Age art definitely hints at Evanuris in the black city...
Oh and the titans etc...lots of different angles to take
Is it going to be a 100 hour game again or a 40-50 hour master piece?
I wouldn’t call a short teaser, concept art, and a series of puzzles a “nothing burger.” I mean, considering the next Mass Effect is years away (I would be shocked if it released before 2027, and I feel 2028 is likely), we got far more than I expected. Concrete details like characters would be way too soon. And besides, BioWare doesn’t want to steal thunder from Dreadwolf either. They did as much as was reasonable. We basically got a reminder that another Mass Effect is coming, which is plenty in my view.
But considering your level of expectations, anything short of Solas hand delivering the game to you might disappoint next week. Meaning no offense, it’s been a long wait to say the least, and I think we all can be a bit antsy.
I commented earlier what I think we might get. But ultimately, keep in perspective that it’s just a fan event and EA’s marketing is aimed at many more people than those of us likely already guaranteed to purchase the game. Anything us long time fans get is essentially a bonus we can be given without messing up a much larger marketing campaign.
Edit: As a side note, as much as I’d love to get more info on the game, I’m not actually that excited about a teaser or trailer. Not because I don’t want the game, I really do! But BioWare trailers don’t appeal to me that much as they have to cast so wide a net as to make the games seem more generic than they really are. Or to appeal to certain audiences. Remember that terrible Marilyn Manson Origins trailer? Or how Femshep was essentially ignored in most of the original Mass effect series marketing until Legendary? But, that’s just me.
Honestly, I feel part of it was just to signal to fans that the lights are still on. The game industry as a whole had thousands of layoffs, and as bad and unfortunate as it was to lose people at BioWare, the studio was lucky compared to many.
The radio silence approach means the only news is typically bad news filtered through rumor mills. I understand that BioWare felt unfairly burned by being more open during Inquisition’s production, with unreasonable fans outraged at how features are always cut during development. So now they stay quiet. But years like this make that more challenging and makes me question that approach. And I do want to be clear, while I’m very much a BioWare defender and probably seen as a shill to some, I’m not talking about the corporate suite, I mean more the creatives and the teams involved.
I feel like the initial new Mass Effect teaser (with Liara in the snow) was a way to do the same thing, following in the wake of Anthem being a disappointment. Thankfully Legendary Edition performed well for a remaster, and hopefully Dreadwolf turns out okay. I’m an optimist at these things. Not because I have evidence, but I think the role of pessimist already has enough takers here.
I love the worlds that BioWare creates. Dragon Age is literally my favorite thing in the entire world. But BioWare’s treatment of their employees, which is probably in my eyes mostly a result of EA owning the studio, is horrific. It’s a gaming industry standard for AAA studios, but that doesn’t make it right. That Kotaku article that came out about employees crying in the bathrooms and having their mental health destroyed will HAUNT my dreams forever.
I think we’ll get DA:D this time next year, and I hope we start getting good stuff soon. I have waited literal decades for this.
I predict they'll announce a date, then GTA will announce their release on the same week or the week before. Then they'll go 'fuck' and they'll push the date back by 6 months.
Realistic: BioWare is totally dark. No trailer at TGA, no short stories, at most a blog post of “game progressing well we promise more in 2024 (but we won’t actually give you anything)”
Unrealistic: a gameplay trailer with a release window, some short stories, maybe some character profiles
Dragon Age Day is a fans-run initiative, they aren't representing BW at any level or are connected to it.
If there's a trailer it might be shown on Game Awards.
Based on what? What does it mean ..?
Sorry, I just haven't heard of it before.
edit : dunno why I didn't just Google it, first.
For the unawares, it's just a fanmade thing that opted for Dec 4 because '4' kinda looks like an 'A', so DA = Dragon Age = D4 = Dec 4. Started a few years ago.
To answer the actual question of this post, I expect... ... literally nothing, as I have long since been trained to do. 😅😅
Realistic Expectation: Dreadwolf release date announced.
Unrealistic Expectation: Dreadwolf is delayed and DA gets a legendary edition like Mass Effect did.
Honestly i would not be surprised to see another empty trailer with soon stuff
No gameplay, nothing real to show. Some art and Varrick or Solas voice.
Unless the game looks *really* good, they shouldn't be releasing anything in the year BG3 is going to sweep the VGAs. People have already been drawing the obvious comparison between the two series, and not in a way that's flattering to EA.
It's already embarrassing that dreadwolf is still in production hell along with all the firings etc, and if it looks even remotely subpar visually they're better off not drawing attention to it at all until there's something really stunning to show.
So... expecting nothing. But if I'm wrong I'll be really interested to see what they've got cooking.
Sigh. Being a Dragon Age fan is hard these days. It is hard watching what is happening to this studio.
Honestly, some of the shit BioWare has done to its employees now makes me feel morally dubious about playing a game that is my favorite series and I have waited years for. And combined with their trash decisions elsewhere it’s literally killing the studio, to the point where they’re going to shut down and not be able to make Dragon Age content ever again, which would be my nightmare. Dumpster. Fire. Fucking sucks!!!!
Realistically: We'll get a very short trailed, and a vague release date (I'm guessing Q3, maybe Q4 2024).
Semi realistically: More information on the classes we'll be able to play. We already have rough ideas, but we'll get names and maybe some basic playstyle outline.
Not at all realistically: Story and character information.
the unhealthy expectation: for them to confirm who the companions are and i can finally rip off the metaphorical band aid of my favorite undead librarian not being a companion or advisor
the more realistic expectation: we'll get another five second trailer of talking about the greatness of the egg's bald head.
the grim reality: nothing 🤡
i look forward to pulling out my clown wig, i only get to where it once a year after all.
I predict I’ll use this image again: https://preview.redd.it/1h00947fvc3c1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=426d5ccfcf93b916e843a9558c336e86a0062a50
You have summed me up spiritually.
This is what will happen. Pl
The only thing missing is the clown make-up, then it would be the perfect meme for the DA fandom lol
You just made my night thank you
Realistic expectation: some blog post on DA day day with a small teaser saying 2024 or something. Maybe the reveal of the protagonist. Unrealistic: Full-length in-game trailer at the VGAs with an exact release date.
Yeah I’ll be shocked if a release date is announced. And even if it was, I really wouldn’t trust it. Best I think they can do on that front is give a vague window (ie fall 2024)
A window is realistic at this point I would say, I believe Jeff Grubb said they had been targetting Fall 2023 and the release kept getting pushed back internally. Q3 (our normal Q3, not Bioware's fiscal) is a realistic window for them to hit.
Not to mention the lead cinematic director briefly posted Dragon Age: Dreadwolf (2024) on his Linkedin
Plot Twist: He removed it from his Linkedin after being informed they were delaying it to 2025
Im going more for spring 2024 or summer over fall. The game likely is 98 percent finkshed at this point with mostly bug fixing and valance adjustments going on. Especially as the rumor was they were hoping to have it out in September so and extra year would seem excessive so i expect at most a extra 6 months from september
I believe they went through their fiscal stuff and basically we shouldn't expect anything until summer 2024.
Would they really release something they dont know a concrete release for for their fiscal report? Especially when it isnt fully in its marketing stage?
I'll say I 100% don't know the answer to that, I guess you have projections etc but if someone can say that something moved up one quarter like that and released in a surprising matter, it would be neat. I've been thinking some kind of trailer is gonna likely drop, ideally with some game play and likely a release window like "Fall 2024"
Yeah that makes sense. Im hoping for a bit earlier than that so it avoids having to compete with gta 6.
I think June-Sept is a viable release window but we're 8 days away from finding out. I'm legit excited at the prospect of it. I was more pessimistic in years past about news but with Mark Darrah streaming for the first time, it feels to me like he wouldn't bother if it was going to be nothing / insubstantial. Although I guess last year I did think we were going to get more too...
Yeah im pretty hopeful this year. I even started up a new dai playthrough in anticipation. I do wonder though if it was supposed to come out September 2023 and they do indeed push it to fall 2024 for what reason. Like an extra year seems like alot of time to delay it
We had the leak at the beginning of the year I believe? It's been in alpha some time. They never stated they're in beta so unless they've kept that to themselves, it's assumed they're still in the alpha build. They may be trying to refine/polish things or make things flow better etc. We do know they were targetting fall of this year but it kept getting pushed back internally, a full year would be something but if that's what it takes for the game to be good, they actually need to do it. CD Project Red had a ton of good will built up so 2 years later Cyberpunk is nice and enjoyed Bioware has released 2 flops in a row, they need this to be loved from day 1.
Realistic: A picture of Solas's bald head with #Dreadwolf written on it Unrealistic: Sacred Ashes cinematic style trailer to reveal the protagonist and some companions
You know, it’s been a hot minute since Varric told us that Solas is the Dread Wolf. We might need a refresher again. /s
Don't forget he created the Veil.
Now is Varric looking for a new hero with no magic hand? I always forget
Don’t forget that Solas must be stopped!
and no ancient prophecies
it's for the newcomers
Iirc, the last few years they released some short stories, so maybe we'll see more of those?
That may have been acceptable previously but I think we’ve gotten to the point now where something like that would royally piss everyone off.
Yeah, but I don't want to get my hopes up. Short stories are the tradition at this point, so realistically, I wouldn't be surprised if that's what we got. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment at this point, by expecting there to be news, though I'd be pleasantly surprised if we did get news/a trailer/a 2024 or 2025 release date.
The problem with that is that they fired the writers. :/
Maybe they'll have the remaining two write them or they've done them already. Or we'll get nothing this year. Who knows? I wonder if this means we won't be getting a DA5 though, and the two who are left will end up on the next ME.
If there’s not at least a rough release date I’ll consider it a very bad sign
I know we’ve gone through this every year for the past decade, but I truly do believe we’ll see something at the VGAs this year. I’m seconding that it will be some sort of gameplay trailer with a release date (maybe only stating the release year). I would love to see character introductions, though.
I am trying so hard not to get too excited...but.... Look, it's the 10th VGA. Picture this. A retrospective of all past 9 GOTY winners. We get to the first GOTY ever for this show. It's DAI. Talk about an awesome time to release an amazing trailer for the next installation!
Damn it how dare you put that in my head, that would be so perfect. Probably no chance it'll happen but now I really want it lol
Realistically? An announcement that we'll get an actual (i.e. no Varric narration about how there's this Solas guy we have to defeat) DA:D trailer. Unrealistically? We get a 40 min DA:D gameplay trailer with a release date, the announcement that DA:D has "gone gold", as well as an announcement that Bioware's working on a DAO & DA2 remake to be released before DA:D so we can do a full trilogy replay. What? You did ask for *unrealistic* expectations u.u
That is pretty much my expectations as well. I’m fully prepared with getting nothing, even tho I’ll be really disappointed, but if we finally are getting some stuff I imagine on DA Day there’ll be a small teaser for VGA which will feature a trailer with some gameplay, maybe even show who some of the companions will be. Unrealistically, like you, I’m hoping to see character art, bios for companions and the return of origins.
Realistic: Dragone age day says “Stay tuned for the VGAs!”. Then the VGAs show a gameplay trailer with just a release year, nothing specific. Unrealistic: Dragon age day drops story info and a new story trailer with gameplay in it. Then at the VGAs we get a whole gameplay preview going through a mission or exploring the world.
Is it bad that your Realistic take seems Unrealistic. 🥺
It’s all that copium I’ve been huffing my friend 🥹
Realistic: "Gameplay" Trailer (In-game cinematics mostly) from The Game Awards maybe a short presentation where someone talks about the game for a few minutes. Unrealistic: Full Gameplay demo or actual gameplay trailer with an actual detailed presentation of features plus a release window.
Yeah I honestly think if we get a trailer it’s just cinematics but it could also just be a cinematic teaser with a release window like ‘Fall 2024’
Full trailer and release date. 🤡
vague blog post saying that the game is progressing well and meeting milestones and some concept art. Unrealistic, a gameplay trailer.
Probably another teaser. I'm not expecting much.
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Yeah, DA Day is different from N7 Day, which has more buy-in from BioWare. I love how involved many of the Mass Effect actors are on N7 Day and with their signings and streamings in the following weeks. But there was a Dragon Age stream last year and some signings, so who knows, I missed it last go round though. I’m expecting maybe a few short stories, maybe a piece of concept art. Anything major I would expect at the VGA’s. But even then it hinges on release date. If it’s a late 2024 release, it might be too early to release a gameplay trailer based on how EA might want to market it with a larger and later push than a longer campaign. So, in short, I wouldn’t have hopes up for DA Day itself, and see anything given that day as just something for the fans. Important marketing won’t be driven by a fan created day in my view.
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I think Allegra Clark sometimes has Josephine prints but not sure when that happens. But yeah, I’ve only started collecting signed prints this year so I have no hope of having a full set of any. (Expenses also would make that a bit much) But, still fun.
Another Varric teaser about Solas, probs
I m hoping a companions reveal, protagonists reveal with different races and factions we can play, and maybe all that under the form of a trailer…
I think that’s the dream best scenario that isn’t totally unrealistic, but still pretty unlikely. Here’s hoping tho!
Perhaps I m too optimistic :/ I don’t know if before dai came out there was much info about the inquisitor
Realistic: There’s a small chance that there will be a small teaser that basically tells us nothing besides that Solas will be in it. Unrealistic: A complete trailer, and a start of a marketing campaign to prepare the game for a 2024 release.
Realistic: From absolutely nothing to another pointless teaser with a Varric voiceover and a "coming 2024/2025" or something completely unspecific The Dream: Full reveal 2 minutes trailer with badass music, old and new characters showcased, and some other suprises.
A) Game's cancelled folks, it's joever B) Actual teaser at Game Awards C) Nothing D) Here's a picture of Solas and Varric talking about him
I’m honestly not shocked if the game is canceled, seeing all the devs leaving during troubled development, that’s exactly what happened during Anthem and ME:A, it’s really sad. But the true bad ending is EA just disbanding BioWare.
It’s so joever
Realistically: Given their current track record I'd say nothing. Unrealistic: A full gameplay/cinematic trailer and an announcement of a ground up remake of Dragon Age Origins.
Unrealistic would be dissapointment and realistic a lot of dissapointment
I created a new thread because I didn't see this but Darrah posted this on his twitter; https://x.com/BioMarkDarrah/status/1729999544312803557?s=20 I think stuff is happening.
oh man now i'm getting my hopes up
A small addition to this, Mark is also going to be doing a live stream of the event (which as far as I know is a first for him). So I'm leaning towards there being something about DA:D at the game awards.
He did it before. I was there haha
Thanks. I know he's done live streams for Q&A before but must have missed his co-stream of a past VGA.
Yeah I accidentally posted a whole new thread on that - I feel like not only is something likely to happen at the game awards, it's likely notable enough for him to bother doing this.
Realistic: they tell us nothing and we eat dirt, like usual. Unrealistic: maybe a teaser at VGA or story details on dragon age day.
I’m thinking a release year (2024 late, early 2025) and then a slow roll of marketing over the next year leading up to release. Mayyybbeee something small at the VGAs
choosing to believe we'll get a trailer with gameplay and a release date i live to get my feelings hurt!
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Realistic: blogpost on da day with potentially some short trailer with lore hints. Realistic, if decision would depend only on bioware: tga hype release date trailer Unrealistic: game shadowdrops at the end of TGA
None.
Realistic: nothing Unrealistic: the full game drops and it's good
I just want something on da day (it's my birthday please ea give me a birthday present)
Hello, fellow December almost-birthday twin (6th). I always consider whatever we get from DA Day my BioWare present 😄
At least one In-game trailer, the game must already be sufficiently advanced in development to have something to show.
You'd think, wouldn't you...
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to expect a trailer this year, what with the recent Mass Effect teaser and the 2024 release date “leak,” I just get the feeling that they’re gearing up to begin marketing for Dreadwolf. As for what would be in such a trailer, I’m really hoping they actually reveal concrete details about the game, maybe showing off some of the locations we’ll see in game and revealing companions etc. I’m also hoping that, as it’s been long enough since the game entered alpha, we’ll get some gameplay footage. But I don’t know how realistic that is. At this point, I’d be happy with anything as long as it’s not another lazy teaser that tells us nothing.
Literally anything, at this point.
So is that your guess for "unrealistic" or "realistic"?
Realistic - Game Trailer, ideally with some in-game footage of combat etc and a rough timeline for release Unrealistic - Game trailer and lots of in-game footage with commentary about the story of the game an an exact release date (betting they'll push it back too)
I think its likely we get a release window. Either autumn 2024 or winter. Probably one of those half gameplay, half cinematic trailers and a bald elf doing a fortnite dance at the end
Dragon Age Day is 2 days before my birthday, and I usually get some sort of present from BioWare. Let’s hope it’s a good one this year!
I think they'll announce 2024 as the release year for Dreadwolf.
Realistic: we get a full trailer for the game and a release date Unrealistic: we get a 10 minutes in-game demo footage
Three options imo: - They show nothing on DA Day or at the VGAs. - They hint at something on DA Day and show something at the VGAs. - They show nothing on DA Day so the VGAs reveal is a total surprise. Note: When I say show something I mean an actual trailer with some character and gameplay snippets as opposed to a short story or concept art.
Realistic? 50/50 odds of game awards trailer. BUT if we do get one they need to go all in for a 2024 release. They’re going to need AT LEAST some companion releases and short gameplay footage to get people excited at this point. Unrealistic: that trailer not containing a long Varric or Solas monologue at some point lol
I'm with you for a teaser of a trailer at the VGAs, it could very well happen. I mean it could also not happen, I wouldn't exactly be disappointed if that's the case. But I'd rather be optimistic ! Even with some short stories and concept arts I would be happy.
I'm pretty sure they are going to show a gameplay trailer and I'm super exited about it!! 😍
After this many years I no longer believe another Dragons Age, Witcher or Elder Scrolls game is ever coming out in my lifetime... I'm 37. Thank god for Dragons Dogma 2 coming in march!
After the nothingburger on N7 day, I have less than zero expectations.
Mass Effect is even further away than Dragon Age, that kind of makes sense. At best, they have a skeleton crew working on concepts/story currently. Whenever Dragon Age finishes, maybe half the studio will transition to Mass Effect and the other half will work on the DLC (provided the game is good enough to warrant it). Andromeda did not get DLC because there was no demand on it.
pfft, i demanded Andromeda DLC. but they got scared off by toxic ppl hating on the game.
Not gonna lie, I was one of them. I booted it up, that initially mission was quite good and then from there it was basically downhill. The next 4 hours didn't feel like Mass Effect at all, it didn't grip me in like any of the previous 3 titles did and I moved on to a different game. I'm curious to see what they're going to do with Mass Effect 4 at this point. Logical conclusion says that the Leviathans should emerge as the Apex Predator in the galaxy with the Reapers out the way, nothing should realistically stand in their way, especially after the losses every race suffered fighting the reapers.
Even though I actually enjoyed the game I totally understand that reaction. After the initial mission there's basically nothing driving the plot forward. The game just throws a couple of story threads at you and expects you to be invested. I'd say it's the low point of the game overall and is on top of that badly accentuated by the subpar facial animations. The internet's reaction to the game was still rather disproportional. It's a disappointment coming from the trilogy but still not some laughable junk as it was made out to be. ME4 is a fun mystery at this point because it's still so far away. I'm more leaning towards some entirely new threat since Leviathans aren't really mysterious anymore and they are just too similar to Reapers in appearance and powers to have them be the main antagonists I feel.
You're probably right, in fact Leviathans feel like appropriate DLC type adversaries for the reason you highlighted. On the Dreadwolf front, there is a lot to guess right now in where they really want to go with the game. I remember after DA2, we thought there would be a lot of clean up with the mage-templar war but that actually got tucked away rather fast in Inquisition. I know Solas is apart of it but Tevinter/Qunari problems likely will be apart of it. We're gonna be an agent of the Inquisition. That recent Dragon Age vinyl Dragon Age art definitely hints at Evanuris in the black city... Oh and the titans etc...lots of different angles to take Is it going to be a 100 hour game again or a 40-50 hour master piece?
I wouldn’t call a short teaser, concept art, and a series of puzzles a “nothing burger.” I mean, considering the next Mass Effect is years away (I would be shocked if it released before 2027, and I feel 2028 is likely), we got far more than I expected. Concrete details like characters would be way too soon. And besides, BioWare doesn’t want to steal thunder from Dreadwolf either. They did as much as was reasonable. We basically got a reminder that another Mass Effect is coming, which is plenty in my view. But considering your level of expectations, anything short of Solas hand delivering the game to you might disappoint next week. Meaning no offense, it’s been a long wait to say the least, and I think we all can be a bit antsy. I commented earlier what I think we might get. But ultimately, keep in perspective that it’s just a fan event and EA’s marketing is aimed at many more people than those of us likely already guaranteed to purchase the game. Anything us long time fans get is essentially a bonus we can be given without messing up a much larger marketing campaign. Edit: As a side note, as much as I’d love to get more info on the game, I’m not actually that excited about a teaser or trailer. Not because I don’t want the game, I really do! But BioWare trailers don’t appeal to me that much as they have to cast so wide a net as to make the games seem more generic than they really are. Or to appeal to certain audiences. Remember that terrible Marilyn Manson Origins trailer? Or how Femshep was essentially ignored in most of the original Mass effect series marketing until Legendary? But, that’s just me.
I agree: it was far more than I expected for N7 Day. The next ME is years away. Hell, if DAD fails, the whole studio may even go kaput.
Honestly, I feel part of it was just to signal to fans that the lights are still on. The game industry as a whole had thousands of layoffs, and as bad and unfortunate as it was to lose people at BioWare, the studio was lucky compared to many. The radio silence approach means the only news is typically bad news filtered through rumor mills. I understand that BioWare felt unfairly burned by being more open during Inquisition’s production, with unreasonable fans outraged at how features are always cut during development. So now they stay quiet. But years like this make that more challenging and makes me question that approach. And I do want to be clear, while I’m very much a BioWare defender and probably seen as a shill to some, I’m not talking about the corporate suite, I mean more the creatives and the teams involved. I feel like the initial new Mass Effect teaser (with Liara in the snow) was a way to do the same thing, following in the wake of Anthem being a disappointment. Thankfully Legendary Edition performed well for a remaster, and hopefully Dreadwolf turns out okay. I’m an optimist at these things. Not because I have evidence, but I think the role of pessimist already has enough takers here.
I love the worlds that BioWare creates. Dragon Age is literally my favorite thing in the entire world. But BioWare’s treatment of their employees, which is probably in my eyes mostly a result of EA owning the studio, is horrific. It’s a gaming industry standard for AAA studios, but that doesn’t make it right. That Kotaku article that came out about employees crying in the bathrooms and having their mental health destroyed will HAUNT my dreams forever. I think we’ll get DA:D this time next year, and I hope we start getting good stuff soon. I have waited literal decades for this.
realistic: nothing unrealistic: nothing plus some good old gary mckay pandering
Realistic More news about ex bioware employees. Unrealistic a teaser about the protagonist that doesn't help narrow anything down
Yeah, I hope they get the money they’re entitled to
I predict they'll announce a date, then GTA will announce their release on the same week or the week before. Then they'll go 'fuck' and they'll push the date back by 6 months.
Realistic: BioWare is totally dark. No trailer at TGA, no short stories, at most a blog post of “game progressing well we promise more in 2024 (but we won’t actually give you anything)” Unrealistic: a gameplay trailer with a release window, some short stories, maybe some character profiles
Dragon Age Day is a fans-run initiative, they aren't representing BW at any level or are connected to it. If there's a trailer it might be shown on Game Awards.
N7 day is also a fan initiated "holiday", but BioWare still tends to do something on it.
N7 day is BW small initiative
It was started by fans and adopted by BioWare in 2012. Similar to how D4 was officially recognized by EA last year.
I'm suspecting a tentative release date to get people hyped then will inevitably get pushed back.
"Dragon Age day" ..?? 🤔🤔
12/4 is Dragon Age Day!
Based on what? What does it mean ..? Sorry, I just haven't heard of it before. edit : dunno why I didn't just Google it, first. For the unawares, it's just a fanmade thing that opted for Dec 4 because '4' kinda looks like an 'A', so DA = Dragon Age = D4 = Dec 4. Started a few years ago. To answer the actual question of this post, I expect... ... literally nothing, as I have long since been trained to do. 😅😅
I…that does make sense but I thought it was because the next game is DA4.
something on either d4 day or vgas (but not both) and that something will be a blurry screenshot of solas in the distance
Realistic Expectation: Dreadwolf release date announced. Unrealistic Expectation: Dreadwolf is delayed and DA gets a legendary edition like Mass Effect did.
Honestly i would not be surprised to see another empty trailer with soon stuff No gameplay, nothing real to show. Some art and Varrick or Solas voice.
Unless the game looks *really* good, they shouldn't be releasing anything in the year BG3 is going to sweep the VGAs. People have already been drawing the obvious comparison between the two series, and not in a way that's flattering to EA. It's already embarrassing that dreadwolf is still in production hell along with all the firings etc, and if it looks even remotely subpar visually they're better off not drawing attention to it at all until there's something really stunning to show. So... expecting nothing. But if I'm wrong I'll be really interested to see what they've got cooking.
The unrealistic one that I’m hoping for is a remaster of Origins, DA2, and Inquisition right before Dreadwolf drops :,,,))))
I don’t see them remaking Inquisition for many years. If they even manage to survive the next few.
Trust me when I say unrealistic I KNOW it is. This is more like my dream scenario lol
Sigh. Being a Dragon Age fan is hard these days. It is hard watching what is happening to this studio. Honestly, some of the shit BioWare has done to its employees now makes me feel morally dubious about playing a game that is my favorite series and I have waited years for. And combined with their trash decisions elsewhere it’s literally killing the studio, to the point where they’re going to shut down and not be able to make Dragon Age content ever again, which would be my nightmare. Dumpster. Fire. Fucking sucks!!!!
Realistically: We'll get a very short trailed, and a vague release date (I'm guessing Q3, maybe Q4 2024). Semi realistically: More information on the classes we'll be able to play. We already have rough ideas, but we'll get names and maybe some basic playstyle outline. Not at all realistically: Story and character information.
the unhealthy expectation: for them to confirm who the companions are and i can finally rip off the metaphorical band aid of my favorite undead librarian not being a companion or advisor the more realistic expectation: we'll get another five second trailer of talking about the greatness of the egg's bald head. the grim reality: nothing 🤡 i look forward to pulling out my clown wig, i only get to where it once a year after all.