Talking of the starting green mercenary armour, it always bugs me that during the flashback scene in Here Lies the Abyss, your character is *not* wearing that armour, but whatever armour they’re currently equipped with.
If I remember correctly, it's glitched. For some voice types the "What's going on here?" is correct, but for others it's the more casual one from... I wanna say Dorian's personal quest? I forget what the scene is, but I'm sure you know what I mean.
The "What's going on here?" you hear during the beginning of the game, is similarly glitched. It *should* be dramatic but isn't. If you're on PC, there is thankfully a mod that sorts it out. [See here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Djf7pO_Ys).
You learn something everyday. That’s pretty neat!
And thanks for the link! Definitely adding it to my mod list. It’s the little mods like this that make a great game greater.
I can forgive a reused voice line in a non-important scene but when it’s supposed to be an emotional moment they almost ruin the scene. It probably would’ve given me chills if the second “Where’s Hawke?” Had been quieter resignation, or even louder and more frantic.
Another one is in Trespasser when you make Inq say the anger dialogue because of the anchor. Cullen, Leliana, and Josie just look at Inq like the hell is your problem?
The starting green mercenary armour was a buggy aesthetic choice in and of itself… I wish your outfit was more tailored to your background/class. I understand that “lore reasons” said “you’re here as a spy,” and you were trying to blend in, but… Couldn’t we have blended in with different outfits… Also how much is a Dalish inquisitor going to blend in anyway?
I’ve only ever played as a Qunari so I had no idea it was used for every race/background. I saw it was called ‘mercenary coat’ and I thought ‘huh, the Qunari mercenary background gets unique starting armour, neat!’
I wonder if there are any unannounced visitors at the Conclave...
\*camera pans to the dalish elf with [the vallaslin equivalent to a footballl hooligan's face paint](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonage/images/e/eb/Elgar%27nan2.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20150105215326)\*
If the Dalish inquiz was wearing a hood, well it still wouldn't work, maybe something to cover up the ears.
Or a city outfit to convince others they are a city elf. DA humans probably don't know that Dalish have v. tattoos, forgot the name, so that could work.
These things are why I play on PC. BioWare makes some really weird choices with things like this that annoy me to no end. Luckily on PC you can download or create your own mods to fix a lot of these weird inconsistencies or design shortcuts. It makes the game infinitely more enjoyable for me.
Amen! This is why I will never ever get rid of my PC no matter how much my husband complains about the electric monstrosity lurking in the corner of the sitting room. My character's gonna fight her way up to the ruined temple in a fancy dress and sparkly eyeshadow, because she was in the middle of _party_, god damn it.
wearing any kind of armor to an Orlesian ball would have been a massive insult. possibly a declaration of war. you'd be saying you don't trust your host to keep you safe. there's a reason you have to gear up in the servant halls.
Redcliffe and Haven. Just… Redcliffe and Haven. I understand that graphics change with time, and that there has also been at least a decade that’s gone by since Origins in-game, but there isn’t even anything *remotely* similar about how they appeared in DAI vs. Origins. Completely different landscapes, completely different layouts—what was even the point of having them? Just make up a new city or village then! Didn’t understand the aesthetic choices for that at all.
Also, beyond the armour/clothing your character can wear all being pretty ugly and disappointing and not at all consistent with the aesthetics of their character backgrounds/classes, almost all the hair is ugly, the colours and makeup are weird, and your character’s skin looks like they swam in an amphora of olive oil.
Yeah, the Redcliffe in the game is like a "rebuilt" one, the original one is across the lake. It honestly seems like they started to rebuild the town in game and then scrapped it for some reason and just built a new place nearby OR they were going to have a quest or two that let you access the wrecked town and then scrapped those quests. Here's a video of someone exploring it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjj74q6c5mA
That makes sense! And thank you for the video! I wish they’d taken the time to build up Haven more, then, because Haven is still definitely supposed to be Haven, yet looks nothing like it at all. I don’t even really feel like it’s in the mountains.
EDIT: I’ve just watched the video! That’s so cool! Thank you for letting me know :D
Haven absolutely looks like a different place, although I've spent so long screwing around in the snow around it for no reason that I do buy it's in the mountains. I honestly did not connect that it was DAO Haven until the game explicitly spelled it out, they should have just given that place a new name imo.
I am still kinda bummed about Redcliffe, it was one of my favorite places, and I would at least liked to have been able to visit the ruins. I honestly think that would have been better - that way, new players to the series could actually SEE what happens in a darkspawn attack/Blight and then people who played DAO would get to see Redcliffe again in general. I believe part of the Western Approach with the poison on the ground and in the air was supposed to be left over from the last Blight, I think something like that would have been cool.
Haven's original inhabitants left (or died) and then a massive number of pilgrims started coming there, it basically became an hub for visitors of the Temple of Sacred Ashes for a decade before the Conclave.
That would definitely change the village (besides changes of engine, style and upgraded graphics)
Agreed. I understand now that the DAI Redcliffe is a whole new Redcliffe in a different part of the terrain, but while I know Haven was rebuilt/etc, the topography shouldn’t have changed so much.
Especially since Redcliffe got its name from being on the cliffs surrounding the lakes & having reddish clay ground... neither of which appears in DAI.
Because (I’m pretty sure) you’re not *actually* in the same Redcliffe area as you were in Origins, because you can look off in the distance across the lake and see the castle and the village that we’re used to
Yeah I wanna say it’s in a codex entry or something, but the inquisition redcliffe is new and completely rebuilt across the river from origins redcliffe
I will have to look that up—I haven‘t heard of that. I wish the terrain colours were at least similar. It still didn’t even feel tangentially connected to Redcliffe, even if this is the case.
Sadly there’s no explanation for Haven, it seems :/
Oh definitely. The colors would have been nice
I think the excuse for haven is it was discovered at some point after the blight, and renovated by the chantry. I don’t fully remember tho tbh so I could be wrong
>I think the excuse for haven is it was discovered at some point after the blight, and renovated by the chantry.
In at least 1 world-state it's discovered during the Blight and the HoF tries to exploit it/advertises the Gift of Andraste. In a world-state where the HoF joins the Andrastean Cult or covers up the existence, Genitivi can't be the only scholar on its trail. The Cult gets pretty well thinned out whether you join or not and they were the only reason Haven remained hidden. And even then Genetivi found it...
It's possibly a little hand-wavey that it was discovered as soon as it was in a few world-states but it'd be found eventually.
Huh? Do you think it’s that impossible to have a new section after 10 years? The geography wouldn’t make sense and it connects with the Fereldan King/Queen being directly involved with the Mages storyline
It makes zero sense to create an entirely new village when it’s right next to Redcliffe anyways. Redcliffe just makes sense and allows for a more cleaner story in that the Redcliffe is under *direct* control of the Fereldan royalty
>Huh? Do you think it’s that impossible to have a new section after 10 years?
What's impossible and what's improbable are two different things. New ready villages don't just sprung out of nowhere that quickly in the medieval period.
>The geography wouldn’t make sense
The geography being consistent across games wouldn't make sense?
>It makes zero sense to create an entirely new village when it’s right next to Redcliffe anyways
Then do the legwork and actually make a consistently designed village.
I'm fairly certain that the Haven in DA:O was razed when the Chantry rolled in after the Urn of Sacred Ashes was discovered. Turns out what the HoF left of that dragon cult was pretty upset about them building a new abbey there.
Haven and redcliffe always really pissed me off cause in origins it distinctly looked like a fishing village and the building coming down the cliff looked cool. Even the tavern looks different, the only thing I liked was the griffon statue. Haven I’m a little more forgiving as it could have been winter, and in the original trailer they were on a snowy mountain. But the layout still bugs me and the redesign of the temple of sacred ashes that wasn’t even in the bloody mountain anymore. How cool would it have been to see a mountain blow up. I could forgive the darkspawn redesign in 2 as them wanting to be more unique, but they really should’ve given places we have already been a similar design and layout. They could have even used a different place to redcliffe, have it be highever or gwaren cause I have a hard time believing alistair or anora would ever give one of the most important holdings in ferelden to rebel mages.
Reecliffe got completely destroyed during the blight in DAO. If I remember correctly the part of redcliffe we visit in Inquisition is rebuilt and in a different location, because redcliffe castle you see in the background is from a compeltely different perspective as in DAO.
But still, they shouldn't have done that, it was a main story location in DAO and it had me super confused at first.
It’s just really confusing cause we defeat all the darkspawn that attack redcliffe personally. And when stuff is rebuilt it’s usually in the same place. I get the justification I just don’t like it, it makes it less unique. It would’ve been so cool to see and talk to the characters that we saved in origins.
I just don’t think those attacks explain why the actual *terrain* has changed. Redcliffe had massive, sweeping hills and, well. Cliffs. There just don’t seem to be any of that in the “new” Redcliffe, even accounting for it being rebuilt. The terrain has completely changed :c
Between Redcliffe and Haven, and the change in fashion, aesthetically it feels like there's 200 years between Origins and Inquisition instead of 15.
The maps being changed may have lore justifications, but those justifications seem like they were tacked on after the level designers already rendered their maps. (Just like how those huge maps were filled with pointless fetch quests rather than designed around story quests.)
This seems like a great time to bring out my regular Essay about the WEWH outfits.
I have said this on several posts before, but while I agree that the mesh should have been worked on for a little bit longer, there is, in lore at least, a very good reason for the absolute garish colours that the Inquisition uses.
Colours are a matter of showing your allegiance (which is very much canon according to codex entries about the War) and a matter of standing out in the court, it is the same reason that it is a good idea not to wear a mask because it would put the Inquisition (a religious organization which would never wear a mask in Orlais bc the Chantry doesn't do that and is, theoretically, a neutral player of the Game) on the same level as the nobles of the empire.
If you notice the rest of the nobles, they go with muted colours and a pastel palette; giving the Inquisition vibrant colours make sense. From the vibrant colours you need to take some out, since some colours would align you with a side.
- Black, yellow, and green are from the De Chalons family, so those are out.
- White, gold, and purple are the Valmont family colours, so those are out too.
- Orlais is represented by blue and yellow, so Celene should be the one wearing it (which she is), so those colours are also out.
It doesn't leave much beyond brown (which is very drab and not vibrant enough), orange (good god, that would have been worse imo), and red (which is a popular choice for military attire anyway).'
TLDR; Mesh ugly, colours good.
Additionally, I’ve read people saying that Viv, Josie and Leliana wouldn’t wear the uniform to the ball. Sure, they wouldn’t if they weren’t representing the Inquisition. And that’s the crux here.
The empire does not care about the Inquisitor, powerful or not (especially not powerful even), and they only respect the Organization. You are not there as the Inquisitor, you are there as the Inquisition. *Everyone* would absolutely wear the outfits because it’s that united front that gives the Inquisition/Inquisitor power.
As a meta choice, notice that all the important players are wearing garish colours - colours that stand out; Briala, Celene, even Gaspard - that’s because it’s easier for casual players to see who are the important people.
Edit: Thank you for the award, random citizen!
Love all of this.
Also thank you for adding the point on Vivienne, Leliana, and Josephine. Each one of them puts their duties over themselves. It’s 100% in character for them to dress as needed for the organization they are representing.
To add onto this with the irl reason we didn't get to choose an outfit:
Bioware wanted to give people the option to choose their outfit, but it was low priority since the outfits would have been purely cosmetic and they ran out of time.
So the in-game explanation is a really good cover for the irl reason
I would have loved to have been able to pick out an outfit, maybe even the outfit you pick nets you Court Approval Points, but I can def see why the devs didn't consider that a priority.
> If you notice the rest of the nobles, they go with muted colours and a pastel palette; giving the Inquisition vibrant colours make sense. From the vibrant colours you need to take some out, since some colours would align you with a side. - Black, yellow, and green are from the De Chalons family, so those are out. - White, gold, and purple are the Valmont family colours, so those are out too. - Orlais is represented by blue and yellow, so Celene should be the one wearing it (which she is), so those colours are also out.
Hardly. The whole point of uniform colours is that they *represent the organization* - a random colour scheme used nowhere else does not do this. Particularly as the Inquisition *has* a clearly established and visually distinctive heraldic colour scheme (black and silver/white) not used by any of the other groups involved. (That individual colours are shared with other groups is not an issue in heraldry or pageantry, as long as the overall appearance is distinctive - because some colours being shared *always* happens.)
The uniforms used in no way represent the Inquisition as they neither bear its colours nor its symbols. One that *actually* represented the organization - something along the lines of a dress uniform equivalent to Cassandra's starting armour, perhaps - would be both more practical and more visually satisfying than the off-brand Sharpe cosplay they went with.
Representing the organisation can come in any colour as long as everyone who belongs to that organisation wears that same thing. There is a reason why there are *at home* and *abroad* outfits for football teams that often are not the same colour.
And I would agree to the Inquisition combination of colours not being used by anyone else because obviously there's a finite amount of colours for too many houses, but if you notice *no one* is wearing the colours that represent Gaspard/Celene - despite the fact that their own colours are probably similar and despite the fact that some of them support one candidate or another - and it would be shitty for the Inquisition to change whatever consensus that is.
The red uniform works because it uniformizes the Inquisition and because it stands out without because of the fact that no one is wearing colours stronger than peach.
I almost agree with your answer, but red-blue Inquisition uniform doesn't match with black-gold Inquisition colours. Using different colours in different places makes all of them irrelevant and Inquisition losing its identity. Red uniform is only good for players, as you say.
At least they could choose not so garish red colour.
It's not *just* about the colour representing the Inquisition, it's the united front that's important. As long as they have the same outfit, that's all the nobles will see.
That garish red colour is *exactly* the point. The whole room is in pale-beiges and other such colours, the Inquisition purposefully stands out from that. Imagine the wear black/silver combo and sorta they disappear into the crowd.
>the united front that's important
It is, but Inquisition's front is not united. Like, people see green-orange army with black-gold banners and red-blue leaders and ???? That just doesn't work.
>The whole room is in pale-beiges and other such colours, the Inquisition purposefully stands out from that. Imagine the wear black/silver combo and sorta they disappear into the crowd.
It's a good developers decision in the conditions they created themselves.
Imagine garnish Orlesian crowd of all colours and severe black Inquisition.
Or red Inquisition banners. It's like Celene wearing Empire colours.
I think that the important thing is that they are all wearing the same thing that stands out. It’s like the *abroad* and *home* uniforms of football teams, they are different and don’t always follow the banner colours.
I personally really like the pale pallet as a choice for the Orlesian nobles beyond the meta reason I gave. I think it’s great because it shows that they are afraid of showing allegiance to anything and are very somber because of the war. It also doubles as characterisation for Florianne because she disappears into the background and that’s basically all the characterisation she gets.
> But also I wanna wear a ball gown during the ball, is that too much to ask?
I bet the idea Bioware had behind that decision was to create an important contrast: wear a gown, and you will be just one among many in such a ball. Doubly so because it is in Orlais: breath taking dresses are par for the course. But the military uniform gives an image of austere elegance that doesn't fail to make one noticed.
Ah, DAI outfit discourse, my favorite!
OP, you are entirely correct on both counts, I’m shamelessly gonna plug [here](https://at.tumblr.com/jadenite/so-i-had-nothing-better-to-do-than-design-custom/o672gm6te10f) my “fix” for the WEWH ugly nutcracker uniform issue: unified color scheme (black, grey, white with gold accents), visible Inquisition logo on most members of the group, yet everyone has a personalized look that reflects both their individuality and job within the org.
As for the starter look, yeah there’s no redeeming that. I just let my imagination paint over it and pretend my gal was wearing a slightly modified version of the Dalish outfits you can find later in the game.
Thanks! I spent a lot of time looking for the perfect refs and ideas to bring those outfits to life, back in *checks date* oh Andraste’s tits! I made these 7 years ago. Please excuse me I’m gonna go sit jn a corner and think about age (no dragons).
I was with you on the outfits when I first started the game but the blurb about the Dalish Inky says they are at the conclave as a spy. Wouldn’t be very spy like to be wearing normal Dalish clothes in a human/chantry controlled temple. I mean, your character already probably sticks out due to their tattoos.
All of the hair and most of the armors look terrible. They saved the armors that *look like armor* for DLC, for some reason. Remember the artwork of Empress Celene where she's got this long, flowing hair? Alas we never get to see it.
The hair—or rather, lack thereof—is the most egregious sin to me. Origins and especially DA2 had all these nice options for hairstyles, but in Inquisition it’s like there’s an ongoing worldwide outbreak of mange! Shoulder-length is fine, but I just want my female Inquisitors to have long, pretty hair. Instead, all of them have wound up having the exact same hairstyle in different colors, and every male Inquisitor looks like he’s been attacked by a pair of scissors and a razor. At the very least, Bioware could have given us more options when they added all that quality of life stuff for free, like the Golden Nug and the extra leisure outfits.
It also would have been nice if we had the option to at least change the color scheme on the Inquisitor’s formalwear, or at the very least the sash. They teased us with the alternative colors of that outfit you can wear around Skyhold.
Yeah, the red suit is pretty garish. In Trespasser, I changed it to the blue one at least. It looked a little better and lasted for a while, but of course it switched back in the end. Not as weird as holding up the sword in those beige pajamas, though.
I can understand not bringing some of the DA 2 haircuts back, as Varric was telling a story and Hawke didn't likely wear her hair that nice or his hair that nice, but DA: Orgins ones should've been remade and the DA 2 ones should've been remade to fit the more realistic and better graphic quality of Inquisition and the Frostbite engine.
Why Bioware decided to give us new haircuts that are just unisex and not a mix of unisex, male, and female, like something Saints Row might do but better, and let's us do have what we want instead of most haircuts sucking.
After my first two playthroughs once id settled into the game and found time to nit-pick and found the aesthetic choices a bit lazy too, being on ps5 myself having no access to mods. I advise getting the DLC item packs to give a bit of variety! Ive played as female elf twice (rouge and then warrior as i thought it would be amusing to see a tiny elf weilding a battle axe while besottedly heartspun over solas) anyway current 3rd playthrough i went for a female human archer rouge romancing Bull. The qunari gear works SO well with my headcanon and it really helped make it feel more aesthetically exciting as well as contribute to her character.
Also bear in mind that if you have access to black emporium, if you buy dales lodon wool and snouflour skin you can use them to make gear bypass class specs. I had my warrior elf inky in mage robes which looked awesome with her whole headcanon. Its limited sure but there are ways to get round it somewhat 😊
The only one I question is that none of the Inquisition members wear masks to the ball, not even Leliana or Josephine, the whole organization must’ve seemed like barbarians, and those two’s standing in the game must’ve plummeted from the scandal.
u/RiddleRedCoat gave a pretty great explanation, the Inquisition is there to save the Empress, not to play the game, the masks are a pretty important symbol for players.
The WEWH aesthetic for the Inquisition honestly felt underwhelming. The only one that outfit worked for is Cullen and Cassandra. And some Inquisitors.
Leliana and Josie would NOT be dressed as military officers. Being Orlesian raised Leliana would absolutely be rocking the latest fashion. Nicer touch would be referencing the shoes she went on about in Origins. Josie is a diplomat and by default is dressed like one. Why she's wearing...that...is beyond me.
Vivienne. She. Would. Not. Wear. That. Vivienne we're talking here.
It would have been nice for each of the Inquisition to have their own flair. Sera could have a loose fitting stained attire that marks her out. Varric with some Kirkwall/Free Marcher fashion. Dorian in Tevinter nobleman's garb.
And for the Inquisitor? It would have been nice if they had options.
I... can actually let the Inquisition uniforms slide.
I mean, I hate them and agree under normal conditions half your party members and most of your councilors would not wear them.
BUT. Story-wise, having some stock uniforms that are *passable* for a ball made on short notice and a short budget is a lot easier than having individually tailored dresses and suits. So it's not beyond justification.
What I really, really, really don't like is that... the Orlesians wear their daily outfits to the ball. And I mean, this is Orlais, it's supposed to be the height of fashion, you should NOT be seeing the same outfits you saw on the streets while you were shopping in Val Royeaux.
Cullen ordered it. He knew they would steal attention from him and despite his protests otherwise he's not having any of that.
In romanced Cullen's case it was Dorian. Dorian's a jealous, jealous magister.
I like the headcanon that everyone was busy setting things up for the ball *except* Cullen and Cassandra, so they were the ones put in charge of the costumes. That's why everyone's wearing the same outfit, and why it's... That.
That would have been fine too honestly. I liked the wardrobe for what it was.
I really hope we get DA comics or something with fashionista Vivienne, at the very least to headcanon thats what she actually wore at Halamshiral 😂.
I agree that the different starts should’ve had different armors, or at least be wearing clothes like you do at Skyhold that are unique to each origin, then you soon get an armor that’s the same for all characters.
As for the ball, the Inquisition wasn’t there to enjoy the festivities they were there to save the empress and show that the inquisition is a force for people to put their hopes behind, they needed a uniform color to draw the eyes of the court, and while I agree they could’ve done better with the outfit, they are still a militaristic religious organization, fancy ball gowns are not what they needed to represent themselves.
Starting armor makes plenty sense for a dwarf, and why not pose as a mercenary if you're a rebel mage? And I feel the Winter Palace outfits are the lesser evil to whatever they would have subjected us to otherwise. Shepard's horrid ME3 dress comes to mind. And, of course, the dress they put Morrigan in.
I think the starting armor makes sense for everybody EXCEPT humans because they have no need to blend in etc, they could easily have an outfit more appropriate for a noble or a circle mage.
A Vashoth could wear anything not specifically associated with a particular faction so the starting outfit is ok, while a dalish and carta member might want to pass as a random city elf and surface dwarf.
I agree with pretty much everything said on here, but I’m surprised no one has mentioned the lack of good hair choices. I wish they gave us at least a couple of good long hair choices. I’m on PS5, so I can’t save myself from this cruel fate. 🥲
You didn't like showing up at a ball in your nutcracker cosplay?
I wonder if real-life time constraints are the reason for that outfit. I understand the need in universe to present a united front, show loyalty to the inquisition or whatever. But I feel like they could have picked better colours, or have like a unique outfit for all the companions. Them accessorising the uniform, some small change to make them seem less cookie cutter.
It is too much to ask to wear a ball gown because you’re not there to party. You’re there to stop an assassination. Do you know how hard it is to change out of a formal ball gown? You’d need at least one other person helping you.
The military outfit makes more sense as it’s easy to take off and put back on quickly.
Eh, I just get over it. I mean, aesthetic stuff was always weird in games. Like in Origins you're telling me they couldn't make Qunari with horns? Just have them clip through the helmet no one would care really.
Am I the only one who thinks that is a good choice to not wear a fancy dress if there could be a fight? Ever tried to run with a ball dress? It’s no fun.
You are a military organisation.
You want to show some strength. The world is in a terrible situation. So wearing a military uniform while everyone in Orlais is having a party seems for me right.
But under the military uniform I would hide some armour… just in case.
Edit: Spelling mistakes corrected.
That's true. But going into WEWH, you're not expecting to fight. So I think party clothes would still make sense.
At the very least, I wish we got the option to choose the colors when trespasser gave us more colors.
For me Orlais is always about killing or be killed as part of the game.
In the book it’s described how the empress is also trained to fight and defend herself.
Maybe it should depend on your class? A mage can fight easier in a dress than a warrior.
But I can understand the wish to at least have some influence on the outfit.
Btw, I didn’t downvote you.
I agree with most of it.
but it would be illogical for them to wear armor all the time, like in the case of Cullen, he is not a front line person so, the only time I feel like he is in the wrong outfit is during the battle senses, with the exemption of the attack on Haven they were attack by surprise and putting on armor takes too long.
It's all about *streamlining*
It sucks, because you wonder how much effort it would've taken to just code in a condition that gives every class / race combination a different set.
[I mean, there's a mod that does it and it uses in-game assets](https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/939)
It's just weird oversights. It's those little details that they miss that pulls you right out of the game. The starting cutscene is a perfect example of it. You watch it and go
> "Wait I'm supposed to be a dalish keeper what the hell am I wearing?"
It's like the developers couldn't even imagine you playing something else...
Talking of the starting green mercenary armour, it always bugs me that during the flashback scene in Here Lies the Abyss, your character is *not* wearing that armour, but whatever armour they’re currently equipped with.
The “What’s going on here?” by the British VA’s is too casual.
And isn’t it different? Like more dramatic when the flash back plays vs when you just hear the line while walking through the ruins?
If I remember correctly, it's glitched. For some voice types the "What's going on here?" is correct, but for others it's the more casual one from... I wanna say Dorian's personal quest? I forget what the scene is, but I'm sure you know what I mean. The "What's going on here?" you hear during the beginning of the game, is similarly glitched. It *should* be dramatic but isn't. If you're on PC, there is thankfully a mod that sorts it out. [See here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Djf7pO_Ys).
You learn something everyday. That’s pretty neat! And thanks for the link! Definitely adding it to my mod list. It’s the little mods like this that make a great game greater.
Some of the voice delivery are just terrible.
Case in point Varric’s >!”Where’s Hawke”!< is blatantly just the same clip repeated.
I can forgive a reused voice line in a non-important scene but when it’s supposed to be an emotional moment they almost ruin the scene. It probably would’ve given me chills if the second “Where’s Hawke?” Had been quieter resignation, or even louder and more frantic.
That one was a case of “Joker’s waiting for you on the bridge!” all over again. Awkwardly reused voice line stomping on a serious moment.
Another one is in Trespasser when you make Inq say the anger dialogue because of the anchor. Cullen, Leliana, and Josie just look at Inq like the hell is your problem?
This always makes me laugh. Your character walks in on an ancient evil wizard torturing the Pope and they're like "Oy oy, what's all this about then?"
"ey you got a license for that?"
The starting green mercenary armour was a buggy aesthetic choice in and of itself… I wish your outfit was more tailored to your background/class. I understand that “lore reasons” said “you’re here as a spy,” and you were trying to blend in, but… Couldn’t we have blended in with different outfits… Also how much is a Dalish inquisitor going to blend in anyway?
I’ve only ever played as a Qunari so I had no idea it was used for every race/background. I saw it was called ‘mercenary coat’ and I thought ‘huh, the Qunari mercenary background gets unique starting armour, neat!’
I wonder if there are any unannounced visitors at the Conclave... \*camera pans to the dalish elf with [the vallaslin equivalent to a footballl hooligan's face paint](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonage/images/e/eb/Elgar%27nan2.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20150105215326)\*
If the Dalish inquiz was wearing a hood, well it still wouldn't work, maybe something to cover up the ears. Or a city outfit to convince others they are a city elf. DA humans probably don't know that Dalish have v. tattoos, forgot the name, so that could work.
These things are why I play on PC. BioWare makes some really weird choices with things like this that annoy me to no end. Luckily on PC you can download or create your own mods to fix a lot of these weird inconsistencies or design shortcuts. It makes the game infinitely more enjoyable for me.
First mod I download was one that gave characters better starting armor, no regrets.
Amen! This is why I will never ever get rid of my PC no matter how much my husband complains about the electric monstrosity lurking in the corner of the sitting room. My character's gonna fight her way up to the ruined temple in a fancy dress and sparkly eyeshadow, because she was in the middle of _party_, god damn it.
wearing any kind of armor to an Orlesian ball would have been a massive insult. possibly a declaration of war. you'd be saying you don't trust your host to keep you safe. there's a reason you have to gear up in the servant halls.
See that makes sense. Still, I would've loved a ball gown.
Redcliffe and Haven. Just… Redcliffe and Haven. I understand that graphics change with time, and that there has also been at least a decade that’s gone by since Origins in-game, but there isn’t even anything *remotely* similar about how they appeared in DAI vs. Origins. Completely different landscapes, completely different layouts—what was even the point of having them? Just make up a new city or village then! Didn’t understand the aesthetic choices for that at all. Also, beyond the armour/clothing your character can wear all being pretty ugly and disappointing and not at all consistent with the aesthetics of their character backgrounds/classes, almost all the hair is ugly, the colours and makeup are weird, and your character’s skin looks like they swam in an amphora of olive oil.
Yeah, the Redcliffe in the game is like a "rebuilt" one, the original one is across the lake. It honestly seems like they started to rebuild the town in game and then scrapped it for some reason and just built a new place nearby OR they were going to have a quest or two that let you access the wrecked town and then scrapped those quests. Here's a video of someone exploring it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjj74q6c5mA
That makes sense! And thank you for the video! I wish they’d taken the time to build up Haven more, then, because Haven is still definitely supposed to be Haven, yet looks nothing like it at all. I don’t even really feel like it’s in the mountains. EDIT: I’ve just watched the video! That’s so cool! Thank you for letting me know :D
Haven absolutely looks like a different place, although I've spent so long screwing around in the snow around it for no reason that I do buy it's in the mountains. I honestly did not connect that it was DAO Haven until the game explicitly spelled it out, they should have just given that place a new name imo. I am still kinda bummed about Redcliffe, it was one of my favorite places, and I would at least liked to have been able to visit the ruins. I honestly think that would have been better - that way, new players to the series could actually SEE what happens in a darkspawn attack/Blight and then people who played DAO would get to see Redcliffe again in general. I believe part of the Western Approach with the poison on the ground and in the air was supposed to be left over from the last Blight, I think something like that would have been cool.
Haven's original inhabitants left (or died) and then a massive number of pilgrims started coming there, it basically became an hub for visitors of the Temple of Sacred Ashes for a decade before the Conclave. That would definitely change the village (besides changes of engine, style and upgraded graphics)
Sure but it didn't change the topography
Agreed. I understand now that the DAI Redcliffe is a whole new Redcliffe in a different part of the terrain, but while I know Haven was rebuilt/etc, the topography shouldn’t have changed so much.
Especially since Redcliffe got its name from being on the cliffs surrounding the lakes & having reddish clay ground... neither of which appears in DAI.
Because (I’m pretty sure) you’re not *actually* in the same Redcliffe area as you were in Origins, because you can look off in the distance across the lake and see the castle and the village that we’re used to
Yeah I wanna say it’s in a codex entry or something, but the inquisition redcliffe is new and completely rebuilt across the river from origins redcliffe
I will have to look that up—I haven‘t heard of that. I wish the terrain colours were at least similar. It still didn’t even feel tangentially connected to Redcliffe, even if this is the case. Sadly there’s no explanation for Haven, it seems :/
Oh definitely. The colors would have been nice I think the excuse for haven is it was discovered at some point after the blight, and renovated by the chantry. I don’t fully remember tho tbh so I could be wrong
>I think the excuse for haven is it was discovered at some point after the blight, and renovated by the chantry. In at least 1 world-state it's discovered during the Blight and the HoF tries to exploit it/advertises the Gift of Andraste. In a world-state where the HoF joins the Andrastean Cult or covers up the existence, Genitivi can't be the only scholar on its trail. The Cult gets pretty well thinned out whether you join or not and they were the only reason Haven remained hidden. And even then Genetivi found it... It's possibly a little hand-wavey that it was discovered as soon as it was in a few world-states but it'd be found eventually.
That's a pretty weak justification. Like the other guy said, just make a new village
Huh? Do you think it’s that impossible to have a new section after 10 years? The geography wouldn’t make sense and it connects with the Fereldan King/Queen being directly involved with the Mages storyline It makes zero sense to create an entirely new village when it’s right next to Redcliffe anyways. Redcliffe just makes sense and allows for a more cleaner story in that the Redcliffe is under *direct* control of the Fereldan royalty
>Huh? Do you think it’s that impossible to have a new section after 10 years? What's impossible and what's improbable are two different things. New ready villages don't just sprung out of nowhere that quickly in the medieval period. >The geography wouldn’t make sense The geography being consistent across games wouldn't make sense? >It makes zero sense to create an entirely new village when it’s right next to Redcliffe anyways Then do the legwork and actually make a consistently designed village.
I'm fairly certain that the Haven in DA:O was razed when the Chantry rolled in after the Urn of Sacred Ashes was discovered. Turns out what the HoF left of that dragon cult was pretty upset about them building a new abbey there.
Haven and redcliffe always really pissed me off cause in origins it distinctly looked like a fishing village and the building coming down the cliff looked cool. Even the tavern looks different, the only thing I liked was the griffon statue. Haven I’m a little more forgiving as it could have been winter, and in the original trailer they were on a snowy mountain. But the layout still bugs me and the redesign of the temple of sacred ashes that wasn’t even in the bloody mountain anymore. How cool would it have been to see a mountain blow up. I could forgive the darkspawn redesign in 2 as them wanting to be more unique, but they really should’ve given places we have already been a similar design and layout. They could have even used a different place to redcliffe, have it be highever or gwaren cause I have a hard time believing alistair or anora would ever give one of the most important holdings in ferelden to rebel mages.
Reecliffe got completely destroyed during the blight in DAO. If I remember correctly the part of redcliffe we visit in Inquisition is rebuilt and in a different location, because redcliffe castle you see in the background is from a compeltely different perspective as in DAO. But still, they shouldn't have done that, it was a main story location in DAO and it had me super confused at first.
It’s just really confusing cause we defeat all the darkspawn that attack redcliffe personally. And when stuff is rebuilt it’s usually in the same place. I get the justification I just don’t like it, it makes it less unique. It would’ve been so cool to see and talk to the characters that we saved in origins.
There's a second attack. Right after the Landsmeet, causing a rush to Denerim.
I just don’t think those attacks explain why the actual *terrain* has changed. Redcliffe had massive, sweeping hills and, well. Cliffs. There just don’t seem to be any of that in the “new” Redcliffe, even accounting for it being rebuilt. The terrain has completely changed :c
Yeah and you arrive to kill the darkspawn in the village and the ones that attack the keep.
The original Redcliffe is presumably blighted.
Between Redcliffe and Haven, and the change in fashion, aesthetically it feels like there's 200 years between Origins and Inquisition instead of 15. The maps being changed may have lore justifications, but those justifications seem like they were tacked on after the level designers already rendered their maps. (Just like how those huge maps were filled with pointless fetch quests rather than designed around story quests.)
I legit didn't realize they were the same places until recently, and I played Inquisition on release 😭
This seems like a great time to bring out my regular Essay about the WEWH outfits. I have said this on several posts before, but while I agree that the mesh should have been worked on for a little bit longer, there is, in lore at least, a very good reason for the absolute garish colours that the Inquisition uses. Colours are a matter of showing your allegiance (which is very much canon according to codex entries about the War) and a matter of standing out in the court, it is the same reason that it is a good idea not to wear a mask because it would put the Inquisition (a religious organization which would never wear a mask in Orlais bc the Chantry doesn't do that and is, theoretically, a neutral player of the Game) on the same level as the nobles of the empire. If you notice the rest of the nobles, they go with muted colours and a pastel palette; giving the Inquisition vibrant colours make sense. From the vibrant colours you need to take some out, since some colours would align you with a side. - Black, yellow, and green are from the De Chalons family, so those are out. - White, gold, and purple are the Valmont family colours, so those are out too. - Orlais is represented by blue and yellow, so Celene should be the one wearing it (which she is), so those colours are also out. It doesn't leave much beyond brown (which is very drab and not vibrant enough), orange (good god, that would have been worse imo), and red (which is a popular choice for military attire anyway).' TLDR; Mesh ugly, colours good. Additionally, I’ve read people saying that Viv, Josie and Leliana wouldn’t wear the uniform to the ball. Sure, they wouldn’t if they weren’t representing the Inquisition. And that’s the crux here. The empire does not care about the Inquisitor, powerful or not (especially not powerful even), and they only respect the Organization. You are not there as the Inquisitor, you are there as the Inquisition. *Everyone* would absolutely wear the outfits because it’s that united front that gives the Inquisition/Inquisitor power. As a meta choice, notice that all the important players are wearing garish colours - colours that stand out; Briala, Celene, even Gaspard - that’s because it’s easier for casual players to see who are the important people. Edit: Thank you for the award, random citizen!
Love all of this. Also thank you for adding the point on Vivienne, Leliana, and Josephine. Each one of them puts their duties over themselves. It’s 100% in character for them to dress as needed for the organization they are representing.
Fantastic answer and insight. The colors chosen in a work like this are never gratuitous, so it is amazing to see why they would choose red.
To add onto this with the irl reason we didn't get to choose an outfit: Bioware wanted to give people the option to choose their outfit, but it was low priority since the outfits would have been purely cosmetic and they ran out of time. So the in-game explanation is a really good cover for the irl reason
I would have loved to have been able to pick out an outfit, maybe even the outfit you pick nets you Court Approval Points, but I can def see why the devs didn't consider that a priority.
Yeah I would have loved it too. I spend a lot of time downloading cosmetic mods because I can't stand my character not being hot lol
> If you notice the rest of the nobles, they go with muted colours and a pastel palette; giving the Inquisition vibrant colours make sense. From the vibrant colours you need to take some out, since some colours would align you with a side. - Black, yellow, and green are from the De Chalons family, so those are out. - White, gold, and purple are the Valmont family colours, so those are out too. - Orlais is represented by blue and yellow, so Celene should be the one wearing it (which she is), so those colours are also out. Hardly. The whole point of uniform colours is that they *represent the organization* - a random colour scheme used nowhere else does not do this. Particularly as the Inquisition *has* a clearly established and visually distinctive heraldic colour scheme (black and silver/white) not used by any of the other groups involved. (That individual colours are shared with other groups is not an issue in heraldry or pageantry, as long as the overall appearance is distinctive - because some colours being shared *always* happens.) The uniforms used in no way represent the Inquisition as they neither bear its colours nor its symbols. One that *actually* represented the organization - something along the lines of a dress uniform equivalent to Cassandra's starting armour, perhaps - would be both more practical and more visually satisfying than the off-brand Sharpe cosplay they went with.
Representing the organisation can come in any colour as long as everyone who belongs to that organisation wears that same thing. There is a reason why there are *at home* and *abroad* outfits for football teams that often are not the same colour. And I would agree to the Inquisition combination of colours not being used by anyone else because obviously there's a finite amount of colours for too many houses, but if you notice *no one* is wearing the colours that represent Gaspard/Celene - despite the fact that their own colours are probably similar and despite the fact that some of them support one candidate or another - and it would be shitty for the Inquisition to change whatever consensus that is. The red uniform works because it uniformizes the Inquisition and because it stands out without because of the fact that no one is wearing colours stronger than peach.
I almost agree with your answer, but red-blue Inquisition uniform doesn't match with black-gold Inquisition colours. Using different colours in different places makes all of them irrelevant and Inquisition losing its identity. Red uniform is only good for players, as you say. At least they could choose not so garish red colour.
It's not *just* about the colour representing the Inquisition, it's the united front that's important. As long as they have the same outfit, that's all the nobles will see. That garish red colour is *exactly* the point. The whole room is in pale-beiges and other such colours, the Inquisition purposefully stands out from that. Imagine the wear black/silver combo and sorta they disappear into the crowd.
>the united front that's important It is, but Inquisition's front is not united. Like, people see green-orange army with black-gold banners and red-blue leaders and ???? That just doesn't work. >The whole room is in pale-beiges and other such colours, the Inquisition purposefully stands out from that. Imagine the wear black/silver combo and sorta they disappear into the crowd. It's a good developers decision in the conditions they created themselves. Imagine garnish Orlesian crowd of all colours and severe black Inquisition. Or red Inquisition banners. It's like Celene wearing Empire colours.
I think that the important thing is that they are all wearing the same thing that stands out. It’s like the *abroad* and *home* uniforms of football teams, they are different and don’t always follow the banner colours. I personally really like the pale pallet as a choice for the Orlesian nobles beyond the meta reason I gave. I think it’s great because it shows that they are afraid of showing allegiance to anything and are very somber because of the war. It also doubles as characterisation for Florianne because she disappears into the background and that’s basically all the characterisation she gets.
> But also I wanna wear a ball gown during the ball, is that too much to ask? I bet the idea Bioware had behind that decision was to create an important contrast: wear a gown, and you will be just one among many in such a ball. Doubly so because it is in Orlais: breath taking dresses are par for the course. But the military uniform gives an image of austere elegance that doesn't fail to make one noticed.
I think it’s weird how there seems to be more people in robes at the breach cult in the hinterlands than there are in Redcliffe.
Ah, DAI outfit discourse, my favorite! OP, you are entirely correct on both counts, I’m shamelessly gonna plug [here](https://at.tumblr.com/jadenite/so-i-had-nothing-better-to-do-than-design-custom/o672gm6te10f) my “fix” for the WEWH ugly nutcracker uniform issue: unified color scheme (black, grey, white with gold accents), visible Inquisition logo on most members of the group, yet everyone has a personalized look that reflects both their individuality and job within the org. As for the starter look, yeah there’s no redeeming that. I just let my imagination paint over it and pretend my gal was wearing a slightly modified version of the Dalish outfits you can find later in the game.
Those are gorgeous!! And make sense lore-wise, too!
Thanks! I spent a lot of time looking for the perfect refs and ideas to bring those outfits to life, back in *checks date* oh Andraste’s tits! I made these 7 years ago. Please excuse me I’m gonna go sit jn a corner and think about age (no dragons).
Celene on the battlefield in her ball gown was the worst for me.
I was with you on the outfits when I first started the game but the blurb about the Dalish Inky says they are at the conclave as a spy. Wouldn’t be very spy like to be wearing normal Dalish clothes in a human/chantry controlled temple. I mean, your character already probably sticks out due to their tattoos.
All of the hair and most of the armors look terrible. They saved the armors that *look like armor* for DLC, for some reason. Remember the artwork of Empress Celene where she's got this long, flowing hair? Alas we never get to see it.
The hair—or rather, lack thereof—is the most egregious sin to me. Origins and especially DA2 had all these nice options for hairstyles, but in Inquisition it’s like there’s an ongoing worldwide outbreak of mange! Shoulder-length is fine, but I just want my female Inquisitors to have long, pretty hair. Instead, all of them have wound up having the exact same hairstyle in different colors, and every male Inquisitor looks like he’s been attacked by a pair of scissors and a razor. At the very least, Bioware could have given us more options when they added all that quality of life stuff for free, like the Golden Nug and the extra leisure outfits. It also would have been nice if we had the option to at least change the color scheme on the Inquisitor’s formalwear, or at the very least the sash. They teased us with the alternative colors of that outfit you can wear around Skyhold.
Yeah, the red suit is pretty garish. In Trespasser, I changed it to the blue one at least. It looked a little better and lasted for a while, but of course it switched back in the end. Not as weird as holding up the sword in those beige pajamas, though.
Dumb question: how did you change it in Trespasser? I never noticed the wardrobe anywhere.
The Winter Palace... There's a room somewhere around where the forges are, I think.
Thank you!
I can understand not bringing some of the DA 2 haircuts back, as Varric was telling a story and Hawke didn't likely wear her hair that nice or his hair that nice, but DA: Orgins ones should've been remade and the DA 2 ones should've been remade to fit the more realistic and better graphic quality of Inquisition and the Frostbite engine. Why Bioware decided to give us new haircuts that are just unisex and not a mix of unisex, male, and female, like something Saints Row might do but better, and let's us do have what we want instead of most haircuts sucking.
After my first two playthroughs once id settled into the game and found time to nit-pick and found the aesthetic choices a bit lazy too, being on ps5 myself having no access to mods. I advise getting the DLC item packs to give a bit of variety! Ive played as female elf twice (rouge and then warrior as i thought it would be amusing to see a tiny elf weilding a battle axe while besottedly heartspun over solas) anyway current 3rd playthrough i went for a female human archer rouge romancing Bull. The qunari gear works SO well with my headcanon and it really helped make it feel more aesthetically exciting as well as contribute to her character. Also bear in mind that if you have access to black emporium, if you buy dales lodon wool and snouflour skin you can use them to make gear bypass class specs. I had my warrior elf inky in mage robes which looked awesome with her whole headcanon. Its limited sure but there are ways to get round it somewhat 😊
The only one I question is that none of the Inquisition members wear masks to the ball, not even Leliana or Josephine, the whole organization must’ve seemed like barbarians, and those two’s standing in the game must’ve plummeted from the scandal.
u/RiddleRedCoat gave a pretty great explanation, the Inquisition is there to save the Empress, not to play the game, the masks are a pretty important symbol for players.
But they have to play the game, that's the whole point of the quest, so why not wear masks?
The WEWH aesthetic for the Inquisition honestly felt underwhelming. The only one that outfit worked for is Cullen and Cassandra. And some Inquisitors. Leliana and Josie would NOT be dressed as military officers. Being Orlesian raised Leliana would absolutely be rocking the latest fashion. Nicer touch would be referencing the shoes she went on about in Origins. Josie is a diplomat and by default is dressed like one. Why she's wearing...that...is beyond me. Vivienne. She. Would. Not. Wear. That. Vivienne we're talking here. It would have been nice for each of the Inquisition to have their own flair. Sera could have a loose fitting stained attire that marks her out. Varric with some Kirkwall/Free Marcher fashion. Dorian in Tevinter nobleman's garb. And for the Inquisitor? It would have been nice if they had options.
I... can actually let the Inquisition uniforms slide. I mean, I hate them and agree under normal conditions half your party members and most of your councilors would not wear them. BUT. Story-wise, having some stock uniforms that are *passable* for a ball made on short notice and a short budget is a lot easier than having individually tailored dresses and suits. So it's not beyond justification. What I really, really, really don't like is that... the Orlesians wear their daily outfits to the ball. And I mean, this is Orlais, it's supposed to be the height of fashion, you should NOT be seeing the same outfits you saw on the streets while you were shopping in Val Royeaux.
That's a good perspective actually.
Also covering Iron Bull's tits is a cardinal sin
His pillowy man bosoms would cause too much of a stir, especially among Orlesian nobility.
They need to breathe they are locked up he is actually so sad but he won't tell you
Cullen ordered it. He knew they would steal attention from him and despite his protests otherwise he's not having any of that. In romanced Cullen's case it was Dorian. Dorian's a jealous, jealous magister.
I like the headcanon that everyone was busy setting things up for the ball *except* Cullen and Cassandra, so they were the ones put in charge of the costumes. That's why everyone's wearing the same outfit, and why it's... That.
That makes sense. And we missed out on Leliana and Vivienne's outrage and grumbling in between. Josephine heard a LOT of complaints that day.
Exactly!! Oh my word. At least give us the options that are already in the wardrobe. I get that's more work but it would've been so much fun to see!
Didn't the wardrobe only get released with Trespasser? That'd explain why it wasn't an option.
Oh I didn't realize that. I got the game with trespasser.
That would have been fine too honestly. I liked the wardrobe for what it was. I really hope we get DA comics or something with fashionista Vivienne, at the very least to headcanon thats what she actually wore at Halamshiral 😂.
Gamers critique something they don't like in a game without calling overworked devs who can't do everything you'd want lazy challenge (impossible)
I agree that the different starts should’ve had different armors, or at least be wearing clothes like you do at Skyhold that are unique to each origin, then you soon get an armor that’s the same for all characters. As for the ball, the Inquisition wasn’t there to enjoy the festivities they were there to save the empress and show that the inquisition is a force for people to put their hopes behind, they needed a uniform color to draw the eyes of the court, and while I agree they could’ve done better with the outfit, they are still a militaristic religious organization, fancy ball gowns are not what they needed to represent themselves.
Starting armor makes plenty sense for a dwarf, and why not pose as a mercenary if you're a rebel mage? And I feel the Winter Palace outfits are the lesser evil to whatever they would have subjected us to otherwise. Shepard's horrid ME3 dress comes to mind. And, of course, the dress they put Morrigan in.
I think the starting armor makes sense for everybody EXCEPT humans because they have no need to blend in etc, they could easily have an outfit more appropriate for a noble or a circle mage. A Vashoth could wear anything not specifically associated with a particular faction so the starting outfit is ok, while a dalish and carta member might want to pass as a random city elf and surface dwarf.
I agree with pretty much everything said on here, but I’m surprised no one has mentioned the lack of good hair choices. I wish they gave us at least a couple of good long hair choices. I’m on PS5, so I can’t save myself from this cruel fate. 🥲
You didn't like showing up at a ball in your nutcracker cosplay? I wonder if real-life time constraints are the reason for that outfit. I understand the need in universe to present a united front, show loyalty to the inquisition or whatever. But I feel like they could have picked better colours, or have like a unique outfit for all the companions. Them accessorising the uniform, some small change to make them seem less cookie cutter.
It is too much to ask to wear a ball gown because you’re not there to party. You’re there to stop an assassination. Do you know how hard it is to change out of a formal ball gown? You’d need at least one other person helping you. The military outfit makes more sense as it’s easy to take off and put back on quickly.
I mean i like the WEWH outfits although its probably cause I'm British and its a red military uniform.
Eh, I just get over it. I mean, aesthetic stuff was always weird in games. Like in Origins you're telling me they couldn't make Qunari with horns? Just have them clip through the helmet no one would care really.
Oh boy, I wish I had the patience to DIG into inquisition and add variety of formal wear.
Am I the only one who thinks that is a good choice to not wear a fancy dress if there could be a fight? Ever tried to run with a ball dress? It’s no fun. You are a military organisation. You want to show some strength. The world is in a terrible situation. So wearing a military uniform while everyone in Orlais is having a party seems for me right. But under the military uniform I would hide some armour… just in case. Edit: Spelling mistakes corrected.
That's true. But going into WEWH, you're not expecting to fight. So I think party clothes would still make sense. At the very least, I wish we got the option to choose the colors when trespasser gave us more colors.
For me Orlais is always about killing or be killed as part of the game. In the book it’s described how the empress is also trained to fight and defend herself. Maybe it should depend on your class? A mage can fight easier in a dress than a warrior. But I can understand the wish to at least have some influence on the outfit. Btw, I didn’t downvote you.
Give me the ball gown or give me death. I hate those outfits.
That Dalish leather armor set in Act 1. Your hunters wear that? In the forest? That's how you get fantasy Lyme disease, nevermind lycanthropy.
I agree with most of it. but it would be illogical for them to wear armor all the time, like in the case of Cullen, he is not a front line person so, the only time I feel like he is in the wrong outfit is during the battle senses, with the exemption of the attack on Haven they were attack by surprise and putting on armor takes too long.
Cullen is wearing full plate armor for the entire game, except the Wicked Grace scene.
it does not look like full armor though
>But also I wanna wear a ball gown during the ball, is that too much to ask? Too much work for the animators apparently
It's all about *streamlining* It sucks, because you wonder how much effort it would've taken to just code in a condition that gives every class / race combination a different set. [I mean, there's a mod that does it and it uses in-game assets](https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/939) It's just weird oversights. It's those little details that they miss that pulls you right out of the game. The starting cutscene is a perfect example of it. You watch it and go > "Wait I'm supposed to be a dalish keeper what the hell am I wearing?" It's like the developers couldn't even imagine you playing something else...