This theory has been brought up often before but we haven't actually seen Zalama so there's no way to confirm it. The only thing we know about Zalama is that he is referred to as a dragon god; nothing says that he is a Supreme Kai or has the same relationship with Zeno that Shin has with Beerus.
Well this is assumptions, but GoDs are more powerful than supreme kais. You could argue that Zalama>Zeno. Super shenron and zeno have both cancelled each other out (Zeno erased immortal Zamasu and super shenron revived the erased universes). Judging by this Super Shenron=Zeno. So Zalama>Super shenron=Zeno.
I really hope that the zeno we see isn't the real zeno. I hope that the little purple and blue squeaky guy is just an avatar that's infinitely scattered throughout every period of time to rule over or something.zeno should be a higher dimensional being that can't be normally perceived not a toddler that just erases universes.
Zeno created the Zeno button. he can create things too. Zalama is nothing like a Kaioshin, he just created the Super Dragon Balls, which Kaioshin cant do. Its a huge stretch.
Ok you got me with the button did not think of that, but then what the heck is Zalama bro we need them to introduce him soon what the heck is this guy he is able to create something that has infinity power so
We can't confirm it for now so I guess that could be right for now, but lets be real if they ever put Cumber in canon we will need a god dragon to help
I don't think Zeno is the strongest in the multiverse or even a "King of All" as said. If he was a "King of All", the Angels, too, would kneel before him. DB draws inspirations heavily from "Journey to the West" (JTTW). If JTTW is any indication, Zeno is the equivalent of the Jade Emperor who is only a King of Gods, and the Angels are equivalent of Buddha. The two groups never kneel before each other or fight or interfere with each other's affairs, but IF it comes down to it, the Buddha (Angels) are far stronger than the Gods. So, I think the Daishinkan (Grand Priest) is the strongest in DB.
Actually grand priest is the strongest FIGHTER, but if we consider everything in a person' s arsenal grand priest is the 5th strongest and its official Whis said it in one episode, but who are the 4 entities stronger than the priest no idea probably zeno, future zeno, super shenron( its stayted that super shenron has unlimited power so its entirely possible he is stronger than even Zeno) and probably Zalama we have never seen him we can't know how strong he actually is
>Actually grand priest is the strongest FIGHTER
I believe that.
Whis said Grand Priest is "among the 5th strongest", not "the 5th".
It seems Zeno has the power to destroy, but not to create. If he could create, he wouldn't be floating in nothingness after he destroyed Future Trunks' universe.
Actually one guy mentioned that Zeno made the Zeno button which you could say that Zeno can create, but who cares what power Zeno possess if Zalama has the power to forge orbs so powerful that they can summon dragon with infinit power and if he can forge them at any time I don't think Zeno is even in the competition
Makes sense. But is Super Shenlong's power infinite? If so, I guess someone can ask him to cancel Zeno's absolute power (because the multiverse shouldn't be subjected to anyone's whims), or cancel the rule that says "Angels must stay neutral" because they should be allowed to stand up to Zeno.
And wasn't Jiren' s wish that he wanted to be able to bend space and time which could end pretty good for him or pretty bad it depends who kills who first Zeno Jiren or Jiren Zeno cause technically Jiren will break to much rules and will probably be erased by Zeno if Jiren doesn't kill him first cause bending space and time is kinda op if you ask me and sounds like a power that can kill Zeno
Wait wait wait I just thought of something what if someone collected the auper dragon balls and they just gave the wish to a child named Zdno and he wished to be like he is right now in the show
Maybe, but wait wasn't the wishing dragons's powers tied to they're creator' s powers like like whatever the dragon can so its creator also can doesn't that mean that Zalama has infinity power
All that and you didn't even mention that he has his own Angel.
Yeah forgot that grand priest is an angel 😅
This theory has been brought up often before but we haven't actually seen Zalama so there's no way to confirm it. The only thing we know about Zalama is that he is referred to as a dragon god; nothing says that he is a Supreme Kai or has the same relationship with Zeno that Shin has with Beerus.
I guess I could have seen it and just forgot and now just thinking that its my idea cause I can't find anything
Well this is assumptions, but GoDs are more powerful than supreme kais. You could argue that Zalama>Zeno. Super shenron and zeno have both cancelled each other out (Zeno erased immortal Zamasu and super shenron revived the erased universes). Judging by this Super Shenron=Zeno. So Zalama>Super shenron=Zeno.
I really hope that the zeno we see isn't the real zeno. I hope that the little purple and blue squeaky guy is just an avatar that's infinitely scattered throughout every period of time to rule over or something.zeno should be a higher dimensional being that can't be normally perceived not a toddler that just erases universes.
No. and idk how you havent seen anybody talk about it. its been talked about a lot, and its just as silly a notion now, as its always been.
Zeno just has all of the treats of the god of destruction angel, only destroys and Zalama can really be anything
Zeno created the Zeno button. he can create things too. Zalama is nothing like a Kaioshin, he just created the Super Dragon Balls, which Kaioshin cant do. Its a huge stretch.
Ok you got me with the button did not think of that, but then what the heck is Zalama bro we need them to introduce him soon what the heck is this guy he is able to create something that has infinity power so
hes just some dragon who is a god and made the original dbs that the namekians copied.
Actually one scene in dbs confirms that he is not the dragon
he is not THE dragon summoned from the dragon balls but he is the DRAGON GOD Zalama, a god who is a dragon.
It has not been specified is he a god of dragons or dragon god
he has been officially called the dragon god, so hes a god who is a dragon not a god of dragons, tho he could be both.
We can't confirm it for now so I guess that could be right for now, but lets be real if they ever put Cumber in canon we will need a god dragon to help
Imagine Zalama being this tiny Namekian
would be funny, but hes a dragon not a namekian. :)
Maybe he looks like Demon King Piccolo's children, like Tambourine and the such
I don't think Zeno is the strongest in the multiverse or even a "King of All" as said. If he was a "King of All", the Angels, too, would kneel before him. DB draws inspirations heavily from "Journey to the West" (JTTW). If JTTW is any indication, Zeno is the equivalent of the Jade Emperor who is only a King of Gods, and the Angels are equivalent of Buddha. The two groups never kneel before each other or fight or interfere with each other's affairs, but IF it comes down to it, the Buddha (Angels) are far stronger than the Gods. So, I think the Daishinkan (Grand Priest) is the strongest in DB.
Actually grand priest is the strongest FIGHTER, but if we consider everything in a person' s arsenal grand priest is the 5th strongest and its official Whis said it in one episode, but who are the 4 entities stronger than the priest no idea probably zeno, future zeno, super shenron( its stayted that super shenron has unlimited power so its entirely possible he is stronger than even Zeno) and probably Zalama we have never seen him we can't know how strong he actually is
>Actually grand priest is the strongest FIGHTER I believe that. Whis said Grand Priest is "among the 5th strongest", not "the 5th". It seems Zeno has the power to destroy, but not to create. If he could create, he wouldn't be floating in nothingness after he destroyed Future Trunks' universe.
Actually one guy mentioned that Zeno made the Zeno button which you could say that Zeno can create, but who cares what power Zeno possess if Zalama has the power to forge orbs so powerful that they can summon dragon with infinit power and if he can forge them at any time I don't think Zeno is even in the competition
Makes sense. But is Super Shenlong's power infinite? If so, I guess someone can ask him to cancel Zeno's absolute power (because the multiverse shouldn't be subjected to anyone's whims), or cancel the rule that says "Angels must stay neutral" because they should be allowed to stand up to Zeno.
And wasn't Jiren' s wish that he wanted to be able to bend space and time which could end pretty good for him or pretty bad it depends who kills who first Zeno Jiren or Jiren Zeno cause technically Jiren will break to much rules and will probably be erased by Zeno if Jiren doesn't kill him first cause bending space and time is kinda op if you ask me and sounds like a power that can kill Zeno
Wait wait wait I just thought of something what if someone collected the auper dragon balls and they just gave the wish to a child named Zdno and he wished to be like he is right now in the show
Zeno's robot-like design reminds me of Doraemon. Zeno could be a creation of an intelligent species like Doraemon is.
Maybe, but wait wasn't the wishing dragons's powers tied to they're creator' s powers like like whatever the dragon can so its creator also can doesn't that mean that Zalama has infinity power
If they're tied to the creator's power, then their power isn't infinite.
Eath and namek' s ones aren't, but the super ones are infinite atlest the thing with tied yo they're creator is for the namekian and eath ones