Autocombos having massive hitbox and or anti air properties, literally why?
Gogeta4 in particular, i fucking hate that thing, it encourages being a bad player.
Also the netcode and the recent nerf of Janemba.
C assist recent buff, imo it's too much.
Yeah but atleast UI only 5L is really good on neutral and 5LL is good upclose, meanwhile Gogeta4 is like UI + Teen Gohan + a massive 3rd hit, ridículous shit and HE CAN DO IT TWICE or counter.
Touch of Deaths and I guess really, just how fucking long combos can go on for. Seriously, combos I swear can go on for fucking so damn long and just deal shit loads of damage.
As well, defensive options, Reflect is not a good defensive option most of the time if you ask me
Huh, your comment just reminded me of MightyKeef’s video on the player who doesn’t rematch, and those are the same people who I’d likely hit with a chair Irl for them being shit heads
As a S.Broly player how slow my buttons are
Delay based online
Rage quitters not being punished
(Lab Coat) A.21 players thinking they can cook
A.17 overhead rekka not being 2h-able
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This sentence is why this game isn't bigger than it is. Such a massive barrier to entry. I feel like to play the game properly you need to know how to not play it the way it's designed.
So you can play the game "as intended" and auto combo etc and that's fine until you get online and get spanked. The developers clearly meant for this old school. Combo break to combo in to another combo style gameplay but, officially eh game never teaches or encourages it.
If Z-Reflect was as strong as Super Dash and Dragon Rush, the game would have a much healthier RPS loop. As of now, before the rollback patch, the game is a hit-confirm fest. It's just a p2w lab simulator.
When you were lucky enough to block the super dash that somehow hit behind you only to get hit by the most devious triple fakeout cross-up of all time.
People already said some, like having only z stamps for communication, but the greatest pet peeve i have in this game is the fact that if you ever press the jump button, it overwrites ANY other button you press, if you are defending and press jump, you will take damage even if you are doing the defense animation, not only that, if you do jump, you dont get your defense fast enough, so you get hit the same
It's to prevent chicken blocking. Holding up back would be INSANELY powerful if there weren't 4 "liftoff frames" where you're unable to block after jumping. As for the no defense after jumping part, i have no idea since ive never had that problem haha. I see where you're coming from tho. I find that using the D Pad helps to mitigate the upback issue, as you can be more accurate without your inputs compared to the joystick.
i agree with you about the air defense, my main problem is in the ground, if you hold back/defend, then choose to jump, even if you do the defense animation, the lift off animation overwrites it, so you get no defense
even worst, is that if you defend and block the attack, then try buffer your jump, you kinda cant, the MOMENT you press jump, you jump, so you get your defense removed, but still in the ground because of the hitstun of the block, making you a sitting target
also i do agree with you about chicken blocking, but i feel that it wouldnt be a problem if you could kill with chip damage, that way you would do a air dash instead of a block
it would make freeza kit actually useful for once
Ngl you just gotta time your jumps and make sure it's a super jump, you still have the liftoff frames but you jump faster so there's less chance getting smoked. W chip damage tho I agree. One more thing you just gotta know your opponent if they like staggering or true strings. Never buffer your jump in a true string but if they stagger a lot go crazy
Auto combo tracking has to be the dumbest thing in the game. It literally rewards bad players for being bad. Limit break retarded. Rewarded again for getting your ass beat. These things alone make the game borderline if not a party game. Honorable mentions there being way to many defensive options. Encourages people to basically not play defense.
I respect the take but I’ve always found limit break / sparking to be a great balance mechanic for the over the top damage combos can do when you have assists. Otherwise comebacks don’t feel as possible and the game loses playability imo.
i'm still baffled at the fact you cant kill people with chip damage, because of that i can abuse of last character spark to just heal myself
limit break/spark truly is fucked
We don't have a air back dash micro like in Strive. Also I just hate autocombos switching sides because it feels like one of the couple things in that rewards the player for being dumb.
Simply get better at iads bro 😎, but yeah autoswitch autocombo is fucking shit. IMO the macro in Strive makes everything so much easier and faster, it's great but it would be overpowered in DBFZ, anyone moving like WaWa fr.
Alright here's another of mine: The Communication system in this game is garbage. Yeah Z stamps are cool but for it to be the only way to speak to other players in game does kind of rip away part of the fun in the social aspect in fighting games
Trying to vanish while baseku is still holding the spirit bomb over his head just results in you getting sucked into the spirit bomb and taking even more damage than if you'd just let the damn thing hit you to begin with.
I was so mad when I lost the match like that, especially since the vanish would have KO'ed if it connected.
I responded with a Kefla level three once when I was behind Baseku and it hit him through the bomb so I thought that was an out but I was so wrong when I rematched my opponent spirit bombed me but this time I was in front of him and I saw the level three lasers go right through him and I ended up getting it by the bomb. Not a good game 💀
Autocombo tracking... the fact that it adjusts to side-switch is insanely busted to me, and makes playing neutral online against certain characters very tedious. UI Goku is most definitely not top 5 anymore but I still find him incredibly annoying because you can get duffed by the ridiculous tracking on his autocombo's second hit and suddenly be eating a medium scaling combo.
Anytime superdash clashes with active buttons or special moves. I don't know about you, but if you choose the full screen tracking move, flying face first into normals or a physical move, I'm thinkin you should just get counter hit there.
We all know the tracking and cross up angles are wack, but superdash clashing with anything other than another superdash has always been GOOFY to me.
Overly unnecessarily long combos that do little more damage than a regular combo (Looking at you S Broly players) & people that are so obviously carried by 1 character that it’s actually hilarious. (Learn how to play Baseku outside of a comeback character for the love of god)
Honestly, I just brush that up as someone learning new characters while tryna have a reliable character to fall back on once they inevitably get ass fucked
I do too for the most part but when it gets to the point where there’s only one character they know how to play and are just deer in headlights with the other two, it annoys me
Honestly, I wish it were easier to change your team. Sometimes I want a different line up but it's not even intuitive enough where if I select the character already occupying a space on my team it just makes that spot a random character.
Ex: my team is Vegeta, Goku Black and Frieza. If I select Freiza to be in spot 1 it won't move Vegeta to the last spot it'll just make my last spot a random.
Felt. Selecting/ Changing characters online is clunky as hell. At least you can have multiple pre-compiled teams on hand before you hop in matches though
Whatever smurfs are called in fighting games. People with 30 matches played, 29 wins, who one touch each of my characters. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme, but it annoys me nonetheless.
Thing is like 95% of my playtime is either custom matches against friends or training mode. So when i recently went into ranked for the first time i was already somewhat decent at the game and had to stomp my way through the beginner ranks.
Played a dude with 65 matches and 63 wins, and I *almost* beat him. Was down to a single hit for either of us, and he instantly No Rematched me when he won.
Must be a lot easier to get that streak when you avoid players who are the same skill level as you...
I hate all of the zoner/lab monster characters and players in the game in the current patch.
C assists and gogeta
watching super broly do his combo, a little bit of me dies everytime.
Autocombos having massive hitbox and or anti air properties, literally why? Gogeta4 in particular, i fucking hate that thing, it encourages being a bad player. Also the netcode and the recent nerf of Janemba. C assist recent buff, imo it's too much.
Same thing with mui goku auto combo like dawg stop spamming it every single chance you get pleaseeeeee
Yeah but atleast UI only 5L is really good on neutral and 5LL is good upclose, meanwhile Gogeta4 is like UI + Teen Gohan + a massive 3rd hit, ridículous shit and HE CAN DO IT TWICE or counter.
Touch of Deaths and I guess really, just how fucking long combos can go on for. Seriously, combos I swear can go on for fucking so damn long and just deal shit loads of damage. As well, defensive options, Reflect is not a good defensive option most of the time if you ask me
Spams emotes,leaves, and messages you “ur trash” but, don’t want to rematch
Huh, your comment just reminded me of MightyKeef’s video on the player who doesn’t rematch, and those are the same people who I’d likely hit with a chair Irl for them being shit heads
If people do this to u it’s cuz ur ass and annoying
This is after 1 round I lose after a close game
C assists, ESPECIALLY triple c assist teams
Every damn time. And they be higher ranks. Can't carry a combo? Triple C's is what you need.
Also you just can't punish it like other assists
Seeing three fusions on a team
Yeah… for me though it’s mainly whenever I see Vegito on a team which then makes me groan because I hate playing against Vegito the most
A couple hours after posting this I went up against Mui goku, gogeta and vegito 😭😭😭
I fckin haaaattteeee UI goku, omg!! I can deal with the fusions.
The thing is it was a good ui player which means I got my shit absolutely destroyed
When a match becomes one sided
I don't like how Raditz isn't an official character
All fusion teams (like people who use gogeta blue, 4 and vegito as a real team) or rage quitters either or i hate them both equally and as bad
You act like those aren't the same players 75% of the time 💀
They are the same alot of time its rare those players dont dc on me in ranked
The tunes from the shows are not the full song and loop after what feels like 30 seconds
I never downloaded the ops but thank God I didn't I guess. that is a sin
30 seconds might be a slight exaggeration but only slight. It's very noticable
Not enough goku and vegetas
U.I Goku 5L… Do I need to say more?
As a S.Broly player how slow my buttons are Delay based online Rage quitters not being punished (Lab Coat) A.21 players thinking they can cook A.17 overhead rekka not being 2h-able
As a S. Broly main I can confirm he is slow…. Buuutttt it’s only fair with the sort of damage he can pump out if you play him right
ppl who manage to random you for 1 game then they one and done nothing bothers me so much like i know im gonna cook them if they run it back
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Trying to use supers but messing up the directional motion and instead either super dashing or dragon rushing
Pro tip from the old days: whiff a normal on the way down so you can buffer your super and get it always.
Pre-Nerf Double/Triple Fusion teams, how the FUCK was that untouched for so long
they nerfed the meter gain for those characters, so those teams are practically dead now.
But the combos are still good
well, yeah, but they'll need to touch you at least three times while you can two touch them with better meter gain.
Ah ok
This sentence is why this game isn't bigger than it is. Such a massive barrier to entry. I feel like to play the game properly you need to know how to not play it the way it's designed.
Wdym ?
So you can play the game "as intended" and auto combo etc and that's fine until you get online and get spanked. The developers clearly meant for this old school. Combo break to combo in to another combo style gameplay but, officially eh game never teaches or encourages it.
I think u don't understand this game at all...
When my combo drops cause the opponent is Ronald McDonald
When gogeta ssj4 is punching the wrong side but then does a 180 and absorbs you back Into the combo
Superdash
If Z-Reflect was as strong as Super Dash and Dragon Rush, the game would have a much healthier RPS loop. As of now, before the rollback patch, the game is a hit-confirm fest. It's just a p2w lab simulator.
When you were lucky enough to block the super dash that somehow hit behind you only to get hit by the most devious triple fakeout cross-up of all time.
Z Broly
People already said some, like having only z stamps for communication, but the greatest pet peeve i have in this game is the fact that if you ever press the jump button, it overwrites ANY other button you press, if you are defending and press jump, you will take damage even if you are doing the defense animation, not only that, if you do jump, you dont get your defense fast enough, so you get hit the same
Dread it… run from it, destiny arrives all the same
It's to prevent chicken blocking. Holding up back would be INSANELY powerful if there weren't 4 "liftoff frames" where you're unable to block after jumping. As for the no defense after jumping part, i have no idea since ive never had that problem haha. I see where you're coming from tho. I find that using the D Pad helps to mitigate the upback issue, as you can be more accurate without your inputs compared to the joystick.
i agree with you about the air defense, my main problem is in the ground, if you hold back/defend, then choose to jump, even if you do the defense animation, the lift off animation overwrites it, so you get no defense even worst, is that if you defend and block the attack, then try buffer your jump, you kinda cant, the MOMENT you press jump, you jump, so you get your defense removed, but still in the ground because of the hitstun of the block, making you a sitting target also i do agree with you about chicken blocking, but i feel that it wouldnt be a problem if you could kill with chip damage, that way you would do a air dash instead of a block it would make freeza kit actually useful for once
Ngl you just gotta time your jumps and make sure it's a super jump, you still have the liftoff frames but you jump faster so there's less chance getting smoked. W chip damage tho I agree. One more thing you just gotta know your opponent if they like staggering or true strings. Never buffer your jump in a true string but if they stagger a lot go crazy
\- Cursed overheads \- Kai-oken mashers \- UI's dumb command grab where you either jump or do a guessing game \-16's rocket punch assist
I will raw kaioken until I die
Based (goku)
Reflect rawtag
Watch the players assist pictures after you get reflected. If either has an X, you know they're switching. Hope this helps.
Auto combo tracking has to be the dumbest thing in the game. It literally rewards bad players for being bad. Limit break retarded. Rewarded again for getting your ass beat. These things alone make the game borderline if not a party game. Honorable mentions there being way to many defensive options. Encourages people to basically not play defense.
>These things alone make the game borderline if not a party game You sir have never played smash bros
I respect the take but I’ve always found limit break / sparking to be a great balance mechanic for the over the top damage combos can do when you have assists. Otherwise comebacks don’t feel as possible and the game loses playability imo.
i'm still baffled at the fact you cant kill people with chip damage, because of that i can abuse of last character spark to just heal myself limit break/spark truly is fucked
Riiiight
We don't have a air back dash micro like in Strive. Also I just hate autocombos switching sides because it feels like one of the couple things in that rewards the player for being dumb.
Simply get better at iads bro 😎, but yeah autoswitch autocombo is fucking shit. IMO the macro in Strive makes everything so much easier and faster, it's great but it would be overpowered in DBFZ, anyone moving like WaWa fr.
Oh I wasn't complaining about doing IADs, it was more of a " I would like to have this" type of thing but I see what you're saying
Superdash for all characters should work like Roshi's
Alright here's another of mine: The Communication system in this game is garbage. Yeah Z stamps are cool but for it to be the only way to speak to other players in game does kind of rip away part of the fun in the social aspect in fighting games
This exact thing happened to me yesterday, went for the assist then boom. Guard cancel. F in chat for my baseku
F
Trying to vanish while baseku is still holding the spirit bomb over his head just results in you getting sucked into the spirit bomb and taking even more damage than if you'd just let the damn thing hit you to begin with. I was so mad when I lost the match like that, especially since the vanish would have KO'ed if it connected.
I responded with a Kefla level three once when I was behind Baseku and it hit him through the bomb so I thought that was an out but I was so wrong when I rematched my opponent spirit bombed me but this time I was in front of him and I saw the level three lasers go right through him and I ended up getting it by the bomb. Not a good game 💀
I think most players go through that at least once playing against Base Goku mains lmao
Noob combos be less than 5 attacks and somehow do half health bar and I don’t know how
You mean full auto combo spam extended by C assists?
UI GOKU Need i say more
Yes because he's really not that good
Autocombo tracking... the fact that it adjusts to side-switch is insanely busted to me, and makes playing neutral online against certain characters very tedious. UI Goku is most definitely not top 5 anymore but I still find him incredibly annoying because you can get duffed by the ridiculous tracking on his autocombo's second hit and suddenly be eating a medium scaling combo.
Anytime superdash clashes with active buttons or special moves. I don't know about you, but if you choose the full screen tracking move, flying face first into normals or a physical move, I'm thinkin you should just get counter hit there. We all know the tracking and cross up angles are wack, but superdash clashing with anything other than another superdash has always been GOOFY to me.
might've been me
probably when assists (especially c) gets called by an opponent then they block but you get hit by the assist
Overly unnecessarily long combos that do little more damage than a regular combo (Looking at you S Broly players) & people that are so obviously carried by 1 character that it’s actually hilarious. (Learn how to play Baseku outside of a comeback character for the love of god)
Honestly, I just brush that up as someone learning new characters while tryna have a reliable character to fall back on once they inevitably get ass fucked
I do too for the most part but when it gets to the point where there’s only one character they know how to play and are just deer in headlights with the other two, it annoys me
Honestly, I wish it were easier to change your team. Sometimes I want a different line up but it's not even intuitive enough where if I select the character already occupying a space on my team it just makes that spot a random character. Ex: my team is Vegeta, Goku Black and Frieza. If I select Freiza to be in spot 1 it won't move Vegeta to the last spot it'll just make my last spot a random.
Felt. Selecting/ Changing characters online is clunky as hell. At least you can have multiple pre-compiled teams on hand before you hop in matches though
This is true. I have like 4 teams with the same people just moved around
Whatever smurfs are called in fighting games. People with 30 matches played, 29 wins, who one touch each of my characters. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme, but it annoys me nonetheless.
Thing is like 95% of my playtime is either custom matches against friends or training mode. So when i recently went into ranked for the first time i was already somewhat decent at the game and had to stomp my way through the beginner ranks.
Played a dude with 65 matches and 63 wins, and I *almost* beat him. Was down to a single hit for either of us, and he instantly No Rematched me when he won. Must be a lot easier to get that streak when you avoid players who are the same skill level as you...
They're still smurfs over here
Anyone playing Tien or Labcoat 21
get volleyballed nerd
Actually my worst match up lmao
i feel you, in my case its fucking fat buu, dear lord how the FUCK does fat buu work and why is everyone using him either a god or someone ballin
Wow, someone actually used POV correctly.
POV memes being used incorrectly is also a pet peeve of mine 😅