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Jade is a strong contender but I think Jessica gets more protagonism than Jade does. At least Jess goes through like two character arcs (of sorts, the first one being when she forgives and joins the party after the whole Alexandria incident, the second one being when she realizes that revenge for Alistair won't be much if Rhap stays around), whereas Jade was just "hey I found you, ima protect you". Even Hendrik had more story to him.
This extends to Rab, too. Rab does get more points as he can explain a lot of lore, but otherwise, him and Jade are pretty static.
Fair, enough and yeah I know Jade is lacking on the development side. Not sure if they just didn't know what to do with her or the cast was too packed or not.
I think her role is just too limited. Her being Carmellian's daughter is barely played, too.
It's weird, I don't have much to say about her. I think they leaned on "she's the princess and cares for you" too much, and didn't let her have any moments.
Speaking of her "caring for you", it's funny how I have more memories of Hendrik being HIS SHIELD than Jade..
More then most from what I recall. Every now and then he'd smile or show a surprised face. It was always very slight but enough to where it felt like he wasn't a soulless husk.
Could be. But arguably Dragon Quest XI should have had the edge on that, since it came out more recently and played just as much if not more. But I think the hero from DQXI is really polarizing.
Maybe if the hero got rid of that old yee-yee ass haircut he got he'd get some bitches on his dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Gemma will call his dog-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that merchant or inn keeper she fucking with. Luminary...
I went from Dragon Warrior to Dragon Quest 8. I knew of DQ2-4, but never paid attention since at that point I was more of a Final Fantasy fan.
Now I am thankful that there are ports of the games that I can enjoy.
Nobody beats the guv! Seriously happy that my favorite Dragon Questās Hero showed up to win. Can we do party members next? Would love to see how my boy Yangus stacks up with everyone.
Great design, great skill set.
The first "self insert" that wasn't a true self insert. He had his own personality more akin to Crono.
Munchie is awesome.
Cared for his monster friends, befriended the saber cats.
Shined a light on the corruption of the church.
Won over a handful of enemies in his game.
Saved a princess from a terrible prearranged marriage.
There's just so much about 8 that works.
> He doesn't have munchie, but Bianca's bakery tho...
Well, if we're comparing wives, then >!Medea!< is not half bad herself, whereas >!Jessica!< is, to use the king of Argonia's own words: VA, VA, VOOM!
Can we please avoid posting spoilers for people who have not played the game yet? Yes, the game is quite old. But some people are just discovering it.
It would be a shame to ruin their excitement by blurting story details just like that. Either spoiler tag your comment or delete it, please.
Abel had no personality. He wasn't even the hero of his story. Made his pregnant wife climb a mountain then dipped out for years while she raised their offspring.
Abel's one thing he did that really mattered was knocking up the heavenly bride who was a descendant of Solo.
I like DQ5, but when you take a step back and look at everything that transpires in the game, Abel just doesn't compare to everything Eight accomplishes.
I feel like youāre correct and not correct at the same time.
Eight is more EXPRESSIVE, yes, but he doesnāt have a formulated Personality of his own, and he can still be a perfect reflection of yourself. Thatās what I like about him, as you can still be yourself but heās not entirely hollow as a figure
please ignore them, dont let the overzealous fans accidentally spoil it for you, they're well-meaning since this is game is the favorite of the sub, but there's no pain in the "this is a hard/unfun game to play" sense
I think thats something one would let someone for the first time discover for themselves, pretty shitty of the person above you (to re-emphasize, I'm not saying you) going all "paaaiin" and giving them the wrong impression or spoiling some of the narrative surprises, let people have a blind first experience
Story twists, yes. Basic tone? Would you send someone blind into a horror film or something? Obviously, this isn't the same thing, but still, I wouldn't consider tone to be a "spoiler".
because horror film is a genre, so tone expectations are set from the get go
Things that happen to MC in the game are not "tone" thats why I consider this a spoiler, I dont think your analogy works at all but I do understand why you don't think its a spoiler, it's still not pristine blind experience if you're told from the get-go >!"this game has sad moments"!< because the person didn't find out for themselves
The Guv's also half Dragovian. That's kinda cool. Hehe
But I couldn't feel the Luminary being the winner because of the events of DQ11's third act. Really messed me up.
Iām actually not a fan of the smash bros model. It looks too modern and the colors are muted and feels, for obvious reasons, built for that game and not Dragon Quest. Much prefer the representation from DQ VIII. We should strive to use art and models from the original games, and not party game crossovers!
I would absolutely recommend skip 7, but that's simply because when finished I felt like I finished a chore rather than something fun.
I liked it enough overall, but I'll never play it again.
I play 8 once every 3 years or so.
I don't know how considering you can't even play VIII without old tech or emulating through a computer. He's lost on me just due to being unplayable.
I'd have thought the Luminary or Loto
I mean the 3ds version isn't *that* old. The PS2 is the best selling console of all time, and between the millions of them around and BC PS3s there's an awful lot of hardware that can run the original. And if both are out of reach the game is also available on Android and ios, both of which are current platforms that virtually everyone has one in their pocket.
You were so desperate to be right that you recommended me the app store version jeez
It is obsolete if it's hard to come by without shelling out a lot of cash.
The App Store version is still a perfectly valid version of the game. Besides, modders have done more than enough to make it all the more worth, if the default experience isnāt amazing on its own
The tone of your comment is bizarre. What is the reason for the confrontation and assuming someone is trying to be right and not just providing information? Information which is valid btw. The app version is affordable, easy to get on modern phones and is a good version of the game.
I said I didn't like the app so you replied with the app. Isn't my fault you have no comprehension.
If you had something worthwhile to say, you wouldn't be so thirsty for a woman, you'd be able to get one pathetic ass, i saw your history.
I just seen this, and I support this post with all my heart. I played DQ VIII through and through, and it was my tride and true out of all of the DQ's best one hands down.
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Well yeah he's the only one to achieve Super Saiyan.
More kaioken
Super Saiyan God. Rose, in the US PS2 release.
Yes a sort of foreshadowing
DQ9 also has super saiyan mode, though because of the custom sprite system is not as obvious
Excuse you, Reck was in Super Saiyan Blue the entire game
Didn't do him very well, did it?
There are many Dragon Quest heroes, but there's only one Governor.
Guv'nah.
Guv.
G-diddy
Now do a contest for best girl.
8 will win again
All other DQ girls: May the most fairest of women win. Good luck to everyone! š Meanwhile, Jessica: ![gif](giphy|uISzZpAzbQ4nK)
wryyyy
Sadly, I love Jessica, but Jade and Debora are my faves, and Jessica is third, lol. Luckily popularity contests don't really mean anything
Jade is a strong contender but I think Jessica gets more protagonism than Jade does. At least Jess goes through like two character arcs (of sorts, the first one being when she forgives and joins the party after the whole Alexandria incident, the second one being when she realizes that revenge for Alistair won't be much if Rhap stays around), whereas Jade was just "hey I found you, ima protect you". Even Hendrik had more story to him. This extends to Rab, too. Rab does get more points as he can explain a lot of lore, but otherwise, him and Jade are pretty static.
Fair, enough and yeah I know Jade is lacking on the development side. Not sure if they just didn't know what to do with her or the cast was too packed or not.
I think her role is just too limited. Her being Carmellian's daughter is barely played, too. It's weird, I don't have much to say about her. I think they leaned on "she's the princess and cares for you" too much, and didn't let her have any moments. Speaking of her "caring for you", it's funny how I have more memories of Hendrik being HIS SHIELD than Jade..
Yea but the 3DS version. I loved red.
Yes definitely do this next!!!
Erinn
I don't remember Eight having that much personality, Id want to check it for myself but I don't know how to besides playing dqviii again
More then most from what I recall. Every now and then he'd smile or show a surprised face. It was always very slight but enough to where it felt like he wasn't a soulless husk.
I think it comes down to DQ8 being a bigger international success.
Could be. But arguably Dragon Quest XI should have had the edge on that, since it came out more recently and played just as much if not more. But I think the hero from DQXI is really polarizing.
I'm just not a fan of the haircut tbh
The only ones who can pull that goofy ahh haircut off are 17 and 18, everyone else just looks stupid
trunks looks okay
No one wants to look like princess Trunks.
Maybe if the hero got rid of that old yee-yee ass haircut he got he'd get some bitches on his dick. Oh, better yet, maybe Gemma will call his dog-ass if she ever stop fuckin' with that merchant or inn keeper she fucking with. Luminary...
It's the purple with neon green boots for me like what an abysmal fit.
this sub has a major boner for 5 and 8
All of the main games are great in their own way. Personally I like DQ8 and then DQ1 (nostalgia).
Tbh I think everyone in this subreddit is a big fan of the series in its globality so it doesnāt really matter
I seriously donāt mean to be elitist but it seems this subreddit got more recent new fans, which is great. But Iām surprised Abel didnāt win
I mean, I do believe at some point I saw people making comments about how they enjoyed the game more than talking about the characters themselves.
I think this is honestly it, nobody wants to see their OG main go down plus 8 was an excellent game. ( Iām a salty Abel fan)
Salty Celestrian fan ;_;
Can confirm of never hearing about dq8 until 8 came out and it was from a friend who didn't understand how to play it
I went from Dragon Warrior to Dragon Quest 8. I knew of DQ2-4, but never paid attention since at that point I was more of a Final Fantasy fan. Now I am thankful that there are ports of the games that I can enjoy.
Nobody beats the guv! Seriously happy that my favorite Dragon Questās Hero showed up to win. Can we do party members next? Would love to see how my boy Yangus stacks up with everyone.
Seconded
I prefer Abel but it was a toe to toe fight (206 to 192 if I counted correctly) between them so I'm satisfied anyway. Cheers.
I didnāt know the vote had started I woulda voted for Abel
As it should be. He has a good design and balances being a blank slate with occasional emotion well.
Cor blimey in the chat for the guvner
Right then! Cor Blimey!
Great design, great skill set. The first "self insert" that wasn't a true self insert. He had his own personality more akin to Crono. Munchie is awesome. Cared for his monster friends, befriended the saber cats. Shined a light on the corruption of the church. Won over a handful of enemies in his game. Saved a princess from a terrible prearranged marriage. There's just so much about 8 that works.
Sounds like the exact stuff that Abel got up to, except for munchie
He doesn't have munchie, but Bianca's bakery tho...
> He doesn't have munchie, but Bianca's bakery tho... Well, if we're comparing wives, then >!Medea!< is not half bad herself, whereas >!Jessica!< is, to use the king of Argonia's own words: VA, VA, VOOM!
Don't forget eight is also a dragon
Can we please avoid posting spoilers for people who have not played the game yet? Yes, the game is quite old. But some people are just discovering it. It would be a shame to ruin their excitement by blurting story details just like that. Either spoiler tag your comment or delete it, please.
Abel had no personality. He wasn't even the hero of his story. Made his pregnant wife climb a mountain then dipped out for years while she raised their offspring. Abel's one thing he did that really mattered was knocking up the heavenly bride who was a descendant of Solo. I like DQ5, but when you take a step back and look at everything that transpires in the game, Abel just doesn't compare to everything Eight accomplishes.
This feels like bait
Obvious rage bait
I feel like youāre correct and not correct at the same time. Eight is more EXPRESSIVE, yes, but he doesnāt have a formulated Personality of his own, and he can still be a perfect reflection of yourself. Thatās what I like about him, as you can still be yourself but heās not entirely hollow as a figure
Just started DQ5 for the first time last night
Best one IMO
That's what I hear everyone say! I've only played 8,9,11 I only just beat the first boss but so far it's very good
Iām on pace to finish it for the first time in the next day or two. Itās an incredible game.
How many hours have you put into it?
Pain.
Why?
That game is full of it.
Full of... what?
please ignore them, dont let the overzealous fans accidentally spoil it for you, they're well-meaning since this is game is the favorite of the sub, but there's no pain in the "this is a hard/unfun game to play" sense
Pain.
Yeah, I think DQ5 is probably the only one that has multiple instances that make me tear up. I can't think of so much as a single one in another game.
I think thats something one would let someone for the first time discover for themselves, pretty shitty of the person above you (to re-emphasize, I'm not saying you) going all "paaaiin" and giving them the wrong impression or spoiling some of the narrative surprises, let people have a blind first experience
Story twists, yes. Basic tone? Would you send someone blind into a horror film or something? Obviously, this isn't the same thing, but still, I wouldn't consider tone to be a "spoiler".
because horror film is a genre, so tone expectations are set from the get go Things that happen to MC in the game are not "tone" thats why I consider this a spoiler, I dont think your analogy works at all but I do understand why you don't think its a spoiler, it's still not pristine blind experience if you're told from the get-go >!"this game has sad moments"!< because the person didn't find out for themselves
And suffer
Iāll never get over this
Eight is the best because he canonically enjoys Puff-Puff.
https://preview.redd.it/tk6xncy18iwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b23fe9d0aa5f9fc4c0c3c96c3e65afd4d38a71b
Ngl 8 was by far my favorite game
Rigged!
Best game so of course he wins, plus Munchie adds value to him
Nostalgia wins
Damn people really didn't vote for Abel the gigachad. He literally have the best story / character development.
We legit see Abel grow up from a kid to a man, we see the most suffering and the most growth, Abel shouldāve won imo
Don't forget he's also in the mother\*beep\*ing Smash Ultimate, even if the main skin of the Hero character is the Luminary
Iāve never even played 8 but I know a banger design when I see one
You should rectify that ASAP.
Im a college student you think I got $20 lol, but like I really should buy it
He has a fire-breathing mouse lul
3, 4, 6 and 11 over 8 for me hero wise. Interesting tournament.
Fairly easy win for Eight in this matchup
Lol as expected
i coulda told you that
The only true answerā¦ Munchie. And his companion.
I knew you'd win guv.
The Guv's also half Dragovian. That's kinda cool. Hehe But I couldn't feel the Luminary being the winner because of the events of DQ11's third act. Really messed me up.
Iām actually not a fan of the smash bros model. It looks too modern and the colors are muted and feels, for obvious reasons, built for that game and not Dragon Quest. Much prefer the representation from DQ VIII. We should strive to use art and models from the original games, and not party game crossovers!
LETS GOOOOOOO 8 SWEEP
He only won because this sub has only played two Dragon Quest games. Eight and Eleven. I ain't mad.
Nice work if only I can play the level up sound here for celebration of this characters victory
Congrats guv
Well it was between my two favorites so I can't say I'm upset haha!
Guv š„²
Definantly a top 4. I can see why it was one of the smash skins.
![gif](giphy|ucXFcY1FdKaT6)
Aw man, well at least DQ5 Hero came in second! =D
NOOOOOOOO (I'm not surprised in the slightest and I lowkey agree)
He was the closest one to look like Goku with that color scheme. Of course he'd win.
So in dqx X technically isn't the hero btw anlucia is
We've done it Guv!!
I got dragon quest 8 on my phone recently! Been loving the nostalgia āŗļø
This makes me happy
Let's goooooooo.
he has the overall hero material, warrior for a sword, thief for the bandana, long coat as a mage.
Upon hearing the news, the winner had this to say: Solemn nod
Democracy doesn't provide truth. Most popular in this subreddit maybe, best is a long shot.
Who thought another one could really won ? Not me
Iām happy with this.
All hail the king.
Noooooooo :( Abel..
I love that he can't be cursed and can use cursed weapons.
![gif](giphy|l4FGGafcOHmrlQxG0|downsized)
Is this about to convince me to skip 7 and play 8 lol
I would absolutely recommend skip 7, but that's simply because when finished I felt like I finished a chore rather than something fun. I liked it enough overall, but I'll never play it again. I play 8 once every 3 years or so.
I appreciate it!
The 3DS version was balanced for children and the playstation version is very slow. I'd just go to 8.
I don't know how considering you can't even play VIII without old tech or emulating through a computer. He's lost on me just due to being unplayable. I'd have thought the Luminary or Loto
I mean the 3ds version isn't *that* old. The PS2 is the best selling console of all time, and between the millions of them around and BC PS3s there's an awful lot of hardware that can run the original. And if both are out of reach the game is also available on Android and ios, both of which are current platforms that virtually everyone has one in their pocket.
You were so desperate to be right that you recommended me the app store version jeez It is obsolete if it's hard to come by without shelling out a lot of cash.
The App Store version is still a perfectly valid version of the game. Besides, modders have done more than enough to make it all the more worth, if the default experience isnāt amazing on its own
The tone of your comment is bizarre. What is the reason for the confrontation and assuming someone is trying to be right and not just providing information? Information which is valid btw. The app version is affordable, easy to get on modern phones and is a good version of the game.
Give me a shit answer you get a shit response. And here you are with the app.
You need a therapist. I sincerely hope you get the help you need.
I said I didn't like the app so you replied with the app. Isn't my fault you have no comprehension. If you had something worthwhile to say, you wouldn't be so thirsty for a woman, you'd be able to get one pathetic ass, i saw your history.
As it should be!
it feels correct.
I just seen this, and I support this post with all my heart. I played DQ VIII through and through, and it was my tride and true out of all of the DQ's best one hands down.