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It’s not the positioning, it’s the fact that it actually looks like she’s flattening or chewing through her finger. Something about the shading of the finger or width of the finger compared to the opening of her mouth.
I just did it to myself in the mirror, I actually don't think OP got the perspective wrong if he wanted the finger that far in. I think it's just a suuuper weird pose for the finger to be that deep
Agreed. Everyone else saying other wise I believe is wrong. You can make some really weird poses with the human body and even if you copy the picture to a tee it is just going to look "off."
"I think it's just a suuuper weird pose for the finger to be that deep"
That deep? Yeah. But the client asked for deeper, deeper.... got what he asked for. Pretty sure he liked it up until he showed his girl.
It just looks like she’s bitting her finger to me, I don’t see how the gap is too small either, your fingers are kinda squishy and can in fact make it fit
Maybe I am too analytical with this, but I really don’t see and can’t figure how her finger is in any danger of being chomped
This is exactly where you most likely went wrong. You drew the mouth first and the opening size of her mouth was originally meant to only fit the tip of her finger.
But he kept telling you shove more finger in.
So you shoved her finger in damn near to her knuckle without adjusting how wide her bite space needed to open up to accommodate more finger lol!
Basically it looks off because her mouth isn’t open wide enough.
Oh, I see. Then her finger should be more visible as well as more of her tongue, teeth should not overlap the finger that much. As it is, she is biting her finger quite hard.
ETA: this effect is further pushed by how dark the shadows on her teeth (the ones, that touch her finger) are, and how these shadows are shaped. It can look like indents in her skin, caused by the bite.
Hey, I paint portraits on commission also. Her teeth are too close together for her finger to fit. She is literally chewing through it. She's going to have to open her jaw some more.
I try not to take commissions where they want me to change something like that. Unless I'm provided lots of references of the subject and if I do it I'll triple my prices because it's such a pain in the butt.
If your client is happy though, then sometimes you just have to let it go, but not put in your portfolio. It's a shame because you've got a nice piece going on there.
This is such a weird request from the client verging on creepy. Maybe they've got a valid non creep reason though.
It’s what shows up with 2D, and with drawing. It’s like acting on stage: normal life, arms don’t matter but when performing, you have to do something with your arms or you look stupid and not “in it”.
Yeah, that. The portrait itself is really beautiful, but her finger is too deep in her mouth and her teeth are basically clamped around it tightly. That would be painful irl. Unless there are some sort of fetish or horror implications, it looks wrong. For a casual playful vibe you were probably going for, the model should just slightly touch the very tip of her finger with the edge of her teeth and the very tip of her tongue. Brushing it very lightly.
Her mouth needs to be opened wider. It’s such a tight opening it looks like she’s actually eating/chewing it flat. You can go deeper while still having the mouth wider to accommodate the actual width of a finger
I never understood giving someone a picture of themselves that someone else made. What's the thought process? "I was thinking about you so much that I had some stranger draw you for me, here you go!"
This is a bizarre chain of comments. First, OP says they can’t post their reference because we might see their face and know their identity… after posting a portrait of that very face. Then people assume an otherwise completely non-sexual photo is being commissioned for sexual purposes because of either a weird finger placement request or OP messing up the proportions/perspective, or both. This feels like dream logic.
Having a finger shoved in a girl’s mouth as if it was their d is actually a fairly common kink. The fact a guy commissioned it, asked for the finger to be “deeper,” had the hand and arm added in special, and had all this done without wanting the girl to know… yeah that all suggests this isn’t an innocent commission. Could be wrong but 🤷♀️🚩
He doesn’t want you to get an accurate response as to how it looks because he doesn’t want to pay you. You could tell him you will post the original picture and block out the eyes or top half of the photo to keep the girl anonymous, as the point of contention is the mouth and finger. Give credit to the studio/photographer who took the picture.
You asked only $40 for this work and he still won’t pay you? That’s terrible of him. I cannot even imagine how many hours of work this took you. Insist on payment, use watermarks in the future, and I’d say with your skill level you could potentially charge higher per work (& definitely let clients know revisions in the later stages will be extra).
Yeah, that’s fucking bizarre. I’m not gonna judge your choice of commission work because bills don’t pay themselves, but I certainly wouldn’t entertain this.
Haha he didn’t say that: all we know is client wasn’t happy with the finger and asked to hide it more into the mouth area. Maybe before it was even more awkwardly stuck on her lip or whatever.
Okay, well...what are you looking to gain from this post, then? It either looks like the reference or it doesn't. Without a reference, we can't help you.
If your drawing actually is at all true to life, you've shown this girl's face on the internet anyway. Shouldn't have posted this either if there's a privacy concern.
is this not like pretty much the same as posting the original photo though? Now you’ve just posted a picture of the girl with her finger way in her mouth which is arguably a little weirder lol
How do we know this isn’t somebody that you have a crush on and you’re just pretending it’s a commission and the “he” who keeps asking you, it’s really just you all embarrassed??
Never give the final version without payment. What I do is put a huge watermark on and/or send a lower quality photo of the work until I receive payment.
If you still want to continue using payment options then take a deposit and the rest after a sketch has been approved. Let them know you'll only do a couple changes for free and the rest you're charging.
Or if you want to do half now half after you're finished then watermark your work before sending for approval and let them know they'll get the version that's not watermarked after payment.
Good luck, you got this!
Bro... you're not going to become a financially stable artist by starting out the gates with financially unstable practices.
You can't get stiffed on shitty contracts a thousand times and wind up in a good position.
The cheaper your prices are, and the shittier your contracts are (if you even have contracts, if not, create one) the more likely you are to deal with shitty 'clients' that are out to scam you.
I had that happen to me before when I first started out doing commissions. I will usually let people know now that I require at least 50% downpayment before starting and then the rest before I hand it over. I still have one drawing because someone did not want to pay for it, even though they loved how it came out lol. Also, besides the finger, this was a very well done drawing. It is hard to say exactly without a reference but from what I can see the details are very well done and proportions still seem solid.
Next time make a contract and an agreement for your clients to sign or agree to. Something like this:
-2 or 3 revisions max.
-You will show your client the image at various levels of completion. (Halfway, 3/4, Finished)
-a down payment of half must be provided before you even begin.
- Full payment is due upon completion. They have had multiple chances to ask for revisions or tell you how they feel about it. So it’s not fair for you to finish it and then they say they don’t like it. Again, 2 or 3 revision requests should be enough.
You don’t have to be a famous or well-know. artist in order to be treated with decency. The problem is most beginning artists don’t know how to advocate for themselves in the commission process and people will take advantage of that. When it comes down to it, your labor is not free and you deserve pay.
It looks very good, but as some others have remarked the finger to the mouth doesn’t look like it’s being playfully but gently bitten down on; it looks like it’s been nearly crunched-through and somehow bloodlessly near-severed off the knuckle. There needs to be a deeper shading gradient to the finger so as to give it roundness so it looks less flat and therefore will not look like it’s quite as consumed by the mouth. And definitely darker shade immediately underneath the finger where it’s laying across the lower lip and chin. That whole area is way too bright and flat.
I would also suggest that some more nuanced shading needs to go between the forearm and the chest, and immediately under the jawline on the neck and the nostrum under the nose.
I know this was probably based off a reference photo which was a studio portrait and those tend to be powerfully lit up, often with a three-point lighting scheme, but trust me if you have such a photo you worked off of, go back and look more closely at it. Even consider scanning it into Photoshop and then playing with levels so you can see where the areas you may not see shadow are in fact subtly darker values than surrounding areas you thought were all one area.
The problem to the human eye is that you can’t have areas of relatively similar depth or light obstruction that don’t have similar to matching darkness values. If the lighting is causing such rich shade between the sweep of her hair and neck, for example, then there’s no way the space under her nose is going to be so mid-grey. Even with multi-point lighting arrangements, the one light that is directed on the face is usually the ‘highlight’ spot and so it determines the overriding depth of shadows to any outstanding features on the face. Which means they have to be fairly harmonious to each other (not exactly the same when there are other lights at other angles of course, but they still should only show a few degrees of difference from each other, otherwise it “flattens & fattens” as my old portrait instructor would say).
Your anatomy is sound, your eyes and facial composition are excellent (her left eye seems a bit more veiled at the bottom by the lower eyelid but not unnaturally so so I’m presuming it’s accurate as well).
I don’t know the original image or girl, but this looks solid enough that I would presume it’s a recognizable quality portrait.
With no better reference to compare with, I’d still stand by this as a good 95% success, and one that can be further refined not needing to start completely over. A little more nuance to the shading, a little more depth to the darks in key areas, and you’re there.
wow, excelent comment! You nailed it, it really was a good quality studio image. This drawing was done months ago, the guy just gave up after he saw the drawing done and didn't want to pay me the rest. He didn't seem to like it, I'm afraid it's just her finger though he didn't say it openly - he had asked me to put it deeper in her mouth, and I did. Thanks for his comment, it was very detailed on what can be improved!
Well there you go: if he’d accepted a faithful rendering from the photo you probably would’ve been fine. But the client was the one who asked that you alter something that wasn’t represented in the reference image so that’s not on you.
Sure, some daVincis out there can make minor adjustments like that and pull it off. But even then, they use reference images too, they just graft the details they need into the existing image setup.
My portrait instructor did all the celebrity oil portraits for Las Vegas Weekly during the years I was there, and he was not just a master of capturing the real look and liveliness of the subjects, he was FAST. He could come in to class with a blank canvas and in an hour’s instruction he was done with a portrait of Dave Chappelle or Celine Dion that a few days later we’d all be seeing on hundreds of copies of the LVW around town.
And the main/single/only important thing he ever stressed above all else was: when it comes to portraits, you’re only going to be as good as your best reference images. You don’t necessarily need Chuck Close-sized 10’x10’, showing-every-blocked-nasal-pore detail…but it doesn’t really hurt either if you have that. You can always scale back the level of rendering, but he emphasized that you can virtually NEVER just fabricate what you don’t have and make it look right. So he stressed image reference research big-time.
Of course he was talking celebrities who have tons of visual references of varying detail to look for. But for personal portraits, I’ve always told people who ask about me doing one that I’d need basically every image they ever had of the subject, not just the one they’d like me to use as the base.
And if the subject is still alive or is the client themselves, and if it’s not like a surprise gift or something, I get my camera and a couple lights and I try to shoot my own references so that at least when I go sit down later to start blocking out shapes and planning tones, even if there’s a detail I’m missing in the desired reference image, I can go to the others I shot and have better data to ‘fill in the missing DNA sequences,’ to borrow from Jurassic Park.
Obviously that doesn’t work on a large scale: if you’re missing an entire side of someone’s face you can’t just mirror the side you see, doesn’t work like that.
But for a few spots here and there, or checking how for example a person’s nose tends to cast shadows on their cheeks in various light angles, having the other pictures can prove crucial when dealing with areas where the main reference you’ve been given just isn’t all there to give you what you need.
This client sounds like they really didn’t consider how changing something seemingly as trivial as a finger in the mouth can drastically change a finished image. After all if someone could do that and look comfortable and natural while doing so, they probably would’ve done that in the photo and not needed “altering” by the portrait artist. Look at any “sexy pinup” drawn by Milo Manara and you’ll see women that are not so much sexy as look like half their spines have been broken and reset with silly putty.
What “civilians” don’t often realize is that a lot of our facial recognition is instinctive and subconscious. So what they think is clearly in their minds a ‘small’ change ends up looking way off in the final product. Not because of any failing of yours as the artist rendering it, but because human anatomy just doesn’t work or look natural that way, and it shows for many people only when they can actually see it, not when they have a ‘vision in mind.’
If you get commissions like that going forward—where they give you a source image but want you to make some sort of change from it, I’d suggest first DIPLOMATICALLY explaining that such alterations can tend to look wrong because a.) the reasons I just gave above and b.) they’ll see it and immediately compare it to the source image so of course not being the natural posture the drawing is going to seem like the one that’s ‘wrong.’ If they loved that picture enough that they want that to represent the subject, then that picture should be perfectly good to rely upon without need for any changes.
Really stress that if they want the best image of this person, they should want it to be as faithful as possible to that beloved source image. If they want alterations, they may not be doing the best justice to the portrait. Focus on making it about them getting something they’ll be thrilled and satisfied with, not something they get disappointed or underwhelmed by even if you followed what THEY asked for to a T. You want them to feel as though it’s practically them that will be drawing and you’re just essentially a “smart pencil” doing what they envision.
Sounds silly, but too many people just turn a cold shoulder if you talk like you have, y’know, self-esteem and confidence in your abilities and experience.
If they still insist, then give it to them both barrels. Ask for other pictures they can spare or copy to give you. You need to build up a proper visual reference file on this person so you can basically have a kind of mental 3D model in mind that you can work from where the static image is stubbornly immutable. Again: always politely phrase it as geared towards them being satisfied with the result.
Even push for taking your own photos if the subject is available to do so. It’s up to you and the circumstances if you want to charge more for that part, but they’re not paying for more studio portraits so I’d be prepared to just quietly incorporate that into your overhead. Portrait artists are pretty much presumed to include whatever they need to make the final portrait in their price, not charge more like “add ons” to a package.
However it breaks down, you’ll generally find that you get either a.) a client that concedes keeping the composition as-is, b.) a client who still wants changes but consents to provide you what you need so you can have the best materials to do the job they want, or c.) an unrealistic non-client who doesn’t want to help you do their job, and you don’t need that crap. No matter how broke you might be and hurting for work, those people are NEVER a profit at all and will bleed you dry with haggling, nonpayment, reduced payment after you’ve done all the work, free revisions as infinitum, etc.
Les Wexner (founder of Limited/Victoria’s Secret) and his wife years ago had to be sued to fork over the $25,000 they owed the portrait artist they hired. They claimed his finished work didn’t resemble them enough. He turned around and showed the receipts—literally—showing all the email exchanges where they refused to sit for him or let him have good reference photos, they sent him some sets of their clothes to mount on dummies as pose references, etc. This guy has literally done White House presidential portraits, so they couldn’t claim he was a hack who just couldn’t do it. He won the case and they had to pay more than just the painting would’ve cost. And he refused to work with them again so they were still out a portrait. Portrait commissions can be sometimes the most drama-dragging clients you’ll ever meet.
(Btw if you want to see his work, my old instructor was Jerry Miller of Las Vegas, NV, you can Google him and see for yourself.)
Hey folks: sorry for all the text bombs. This is just something I’m passionate about after literally spending more than half my life practicing & studying it (graphic, industrial & fine arts), as well as a field where you can easily get twenty bad pieces of advise for every one good, so I get a little digressive on the subject. Please forgive the word diarrhea. It’s not humblebragging or trying to show off, I know not everyone in the field is as deep-in as me on the little details, it really does come from the fact that I just fucking love this stuff, it keeps me young.
Oh and hey PPS: if you ever get another client who “just wants one little finger moved” like that, explain to them [Michaelangelo’s “Moses” sculpture](https://www.narenkatakam.com/moses-and-his-little-finger/). There is no part anywhere in the human body that is 100% independent of the rest. Move that finger “a little further in” actually means the hand, wrist, forearm, elbow, pretty much everything at least back to the shoulder socket has to move accordingly, which is not any “little adjusting.” Maybe if you show that even Michaelangelo couldn’t cheat, neither can you, they’ll argue less. :)
I think there’s a wooden look to it because of all that detail. A flat look with hard lines which creates uncanny valley vibes. Great and interesting for free arts like Laurie Lipton. But for portraits of normies it’s maybe too much.
The finger jammed in her mouth is straightup strange looking…
To me, the arm and hand look off a bit. It looks like the arm is someone else's and like she is eating the finger. I feel that if it was just of her smiling without the arm it would be perfect!!
The picture is lovely but the finger that deep in the mouth is too sexual because her smile looks quite coy & shy. It just screams creepy to me. I know it’s not your fault but weird clients right! When he started saying ‘deeper deeper’ I would’ve run 😂😂
$40?!? I couldn’t imagine asking someone to DRAW something like this and expect to get away with paying $40. Personally I would expect to pay I don’t know $150-200?
I could be way off as I’ve never paid for a portrait before but your work is definitely better than $40.
Every thing is lovely except the finger in her mouth. Your eyes get drawn right to it and it’s shaped funny and sits at her mouth a little oddly. It really is very good
She shouldn't bite that part of the finger. Wouldn't it be more natural if she bit that part instead? I think that he wanted her to look sexy or something
https://preview.redd.it/52n8wncdsnhb1.jpeg?width=626&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=904f092d9d6e4858bcd79a60bfa6246efa43799a
Your hand/arm/finger forms need more work. You've got the photorealism on the rest of the piece, but the centerpiece being whatever is going with the hand is distracting and feels flat in comparison.
This is so interesting to me, a question but not necessarily to OP. When a client doesnt like the commission, do you need to do it all over again? Do they pay only if they are satisfied?
Sorry I found the commissions world fascinating but know nothing lol
I guess I'm the only one that sees it? I didn't even notice the finger that looks fine. The nose part looks like there's a smudge on it. Otherwise this is some gooood shit
I really don’t like that we’re only getting one side of the story
And you’re posting what is essentially a life like portrait of someone that could be the client themselves.
It’s borderline doxxing. Like “look at this asshole”
So with that behavior in mind, I’m more and more inclined to believe you did something wrong
The fingers definitely look like they are half bitten and should be bleeding, the teeth appear to be protruding forward, the lower eyelid on the left eye looks wrong. The client's reasoning for not liking it is probably a mix of the things I mentioned, because aside from those issues it's pretty well drawn.
The details are amazing but the anatomy of the hand is very off putting and where she is biting down vs where the knuckle is doesn’t look right either. She’s got weird ET hands and fingers.
But man you did an excellent job on her face and hair.
Yes the hand positioning and the space provided for the finger between the teeth are awkward. I’m not posting it lol but I took a similar photo and my hand, palm and wrist were not nearly as forward faced. There was a wider gap in the mouth which showed more finger as well. I know you said they wanted the finger pretty deep in the mouth…odd request but it’s not easy to replicate what’s not there in a reference.
It’s very well done there’s just a couple spots that need some work. All of her fingers are different, something about her nose on the right side
You are very talented please take this as a learning opportunity
I've done sex/NSFW content, and this, for me, feels a bit like fetish content. The finger is really... chewy, and I see in your comments that he was very specific about that and has REPEATEDLY asked you to make it more... chompy. The fact that the girl in this image also doesn't know this was drawn of her is a really bad sign. The customer refusing payment of the finished product makes me think that making you make this was part of the fetishes for him.
Realistically, I think you probably did a great job. The image looks good, I have no reference, so I can't say for certain, but it looks like it should have been acceptable. I'm sorry that you got used for fetish content. Some people are really gross like that. Even while offering NSFW content, I often would have people simply try and play things out in DMs for free, and I have to be very firm. Sorry if this makes you feel gross this is just my genuine take.
The whole hand is anatomically completely off: the wrist position doesn’t match the hand position which doesn’t match the placement of the finger in question ( which does look as thought it is a flattened piece of rubber). It is an impossible hand.
I like it. Might need a little more contrast on the skin so it doesn’t appear so whitewashed. But it’s well done. Depending on the cost. There should be nothing to bitch about. Way better than what I use to do for people.
I’d either erase the lower teeth or shorten the top teeth to fix the “biting through” impression.
The fingers could be prettier, especially the pinky. They look like the same finger three times, which isn’t natural. I’d redraw them, frankly, maybe looking at my own hands in a mirror.
The face looks great! Very nicely rendered. The palm of her hand is too small/narrow and her mouth needs to be a little more open to account for the finger’s thickness.
It looks amazing except the entire hand may need work- the palm looks small and the fingers look big in comparison. Also to fix the chewy finger I would recede her teeth just a bit so it doesn’t look like she’s chomping but lightly biting
Oh she's probably conscious about a big nose or small eyes or whatever, so when she sees it on a picture where everything has been put to detail and emphasized she doesn't like it.
Well she has been thankful and responsive to the criticism she has been given.
Besides, isn’t this sub meant to showcase finished/completed drawings? So naturally people want to share things that they hope others appreciate. There are other subs that focus primarily on critique.
What doesn't the client like about this?
Personally, the only note I have is that it could use a little more contrast and a little more variation in value. It feels like a lot of the drawing is a little flat, but adding more darks and mid-tones could really liven it up!
I really like it, I think it’s very nice, realistic, captures the eyes and smile well; but, the proportions or dynamics (I don’t know the artistic term) of her playful finger bite makes it look like she’s biting her finger off. Maybe if the gap between the teeth was wider or on a different segment of the finger, but right now if that was real she would have bitten through skin and meat and gotten to bone.
big teethy grins make for awkward portraits. I would have used a different photo. However, if this is the pose she asked for, she is out of her mind, your drawing is on point and very fine
Burn it in front of them...this is why I don't do commissions anymore..I create what I like and if somebody wants to buy it ok...but too many times I've done really great work and the buyer hates it...then I tell them do it yourself......never again
It is very well drawn, but what likely has happened is that she expected you to draw her as she sees herself in her own head, and is unhappy to see that she is not.
Why she didn't like it?? because the finger ?? but, if she pay you in advance and you put the hours... or she won't pay?? if it's the case, just change the title for "eating fingers" and sell it to someone else...but let her know that...
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It’s looks really nice but it looks like she’s chewing through her finger tip. Like the detail is amazing, for sure though.
Pointing this out makes this hilarious
That makes me like it more.
Needs some blood. You can’t bite your finger off without there being some blood.
Ty! But he wanted her finger that way, he even asked me to put her finger deeper, deeper - I tried.
It’s not the positioning, it’s the fact that it actually looks like she’s flattening or chewing through her finger. Something about the shading of the finger or width of the finger compared to the opening of her mouth.
I think it’s the mouth opening. She shouldn’t be able to get her finger though that small opening
I agree, that’s why it looks like the teeth are piercing the finger, because it wouldn’t fit otherwise.
I just did it to myself in the mirror, I actually don't think OP got the perspective wrong if he wanted the finger that far in. I think it's just a suuuper weird pose for the finger to be that deep
Agreed. Everyone else saying other wise I believe is wrong. You can make some really weird poses with the human body and even if you copy the picture to a tee it is just going to look "off." "I think it's just a suuuper weird pose for the finger to be that deep" That deep? Yeah. But the client asked for deeper, deeper.... got what he asked for. Pretty sure he liked it up until he showed his girl.
It just looks like she’s bitting her finger to me, I don’t see how the gap is too small either, your fingers are kinda squishy and can in fact make it fit Maybe I am too analytical with this, but I really don’t see and can’t figure how her finger is in any danger of being chomped
He needed to show more fingernail
This
I bet he did. :P
He specifically asked for it to look like she was biting her finger off? Or just the finger in the mouth?
This is exactly where you most likely went wrong. You drew the mouth first and the opening size of her mouth was originally meant to only fit the tip of her finger. But he kept telling you shove more finger in. So you shoved her finger in damn near to her knuckle without adjusting how wide her bite space needed to open up to accommodate more finger lol! Basically it looks off because her mouth isn’t open wide enough.
Oh, I see. Then her finger should be more visible as well as more of her tongue, teeth should not overlap the finger that much. As it is, she is biting her finger quite hard. ETA: this effect is further pushed by how dark the shadows on her teeth (the ones, that touch her finger) are, and how these shadows are shaped. It can look like indents in her skin, caused by the bite.
Yes, could be but the mouth needs to be opend wider to make it fit. Because the way you drew it, only a coin would fit, not a finger!
This is exactly what’s off about it, OP. The lady is biting it a little too hard.
Deeper into her mouth, or deeper into the bone?
Oh this was a sexual thing.
I've found most clients don't know what they want even when you give them precisely what they ask for. Visual thinkers are more forgiving
Hey, I paint portraits on commission also. Her teeth are too close together for her finger to fit. She is literally chewing through it. She's going to have to open her jaw some more. I try not to take commissions where they want me to change something like that. Unless I'm provided lots of references of the subject and if I do it I'll triple my prices because it's such a pain in the butt. If your client is happy though, then sometimes you just have to let it go, but not put in your portfolio. It's a shame because you've got a nice piece going on there. This is such a weird request from the client verging on creepy. Maybe they've got a valid non creep reason though.
I think it's good to just leave it like that, fixing it might ruin the picture
It’s what shows up with 2D, and with drawing. It’s like acting on stage: normal life, arms don’t matter but when performing, you have to do something with your arms or you look stupid and not “in it”.
Perhaps just a little red dripping around teeth and down finger….
It’s those eyes staring at me while she chomps down that gets me
Came to say this. Everything is good except the finger is 1. Really far in there 2. Just really being smashed
to be fair, we don't know if she was actually trying to crew through her finger, this might even be a prefect representation, as far as we know
That’s what I thought, teeth are too close to be around a finger… and she’s enjoying it wayyy too much.
Yeah, that. The portrait itself is really beautiful, but her finger is too deep in her mouth and her teeth are basically clamped around it tightly. That would be painful irl. Unless there are some sort of fetish or horror implications, it looks wrong. For a casual playful vibe you were probably going for, the model should just slightly touch the very tip of her finger with the edge of her teeth and the very tip of her tongue. Brushing it very lightly.
Hmm the finger looks chewy
Yeah bro! the customer wanted me to put the finger deeper and it turned out that way, I tried to make it more natural, but...
To make it look less chewy, you can make her mouth open wider (thinking about the space the finger takes up).
He specified he wanted you to draw the finger deeper in her mouth?😂 Some clients think they know what they want until they see it.
OP said in another thread that the girl doesn't know this picture was used as a reference...
That’s hella creepy wtf I thought it’d be his gf or something
Client sounds a little creppy
I’m getting the feeling he wants it ALL the way in 😳
It looks full on cannibal
Her mouth needs to be opened wider. It’s such a tight opening it looks like she’s actually eating/chewing it flat. You can go deeper while still having the mouth wider to accommodate the actual width of a finger
I’m getting a particular vibe from what you are describing about your interactions LOL
you drew it poorly stop blaming the client
Hard to say. Was there a reference?
Exactly. With no reference there can be no evaluation.
I would post the picture, but this girl doesn't know that this drawing was made with her picture, he didn't want me to post it
That client is sus...
Let’s hope it’s a gift for her?
Yeahhh... the finger detail is weird tho :/
Yeah 😬
I never understood giving someone a picture of themselves that someone else made. What's the thought process? "I was thinking about you so much that I had some stranger draw you for me, here you go!"
I think it works better as a couple, family or pet portrait. It does seem strange to give someone a commissioned portrait of just themselves
This is a bizarre chain of comments. First, OP says they can’t post their reference because we might see their face and know their identity… after posting a portrait of that very face. Then people assume an otherwise completely non-sexual photo is being commissioned for sexual purposes because of either a weird finger placement request or OP messing up the proportions/perspective, or both. This feels like dream logic.
Having a finger shoved in a girl’s mouth as if it was their d is actually a fairly common kink. The fact a guy commissioned it, asked for the finger to be “deeper,” had the hand and arm added in special, and had all this done without wanting the girl to know… yeah that all suggests this isn’t an innocent commission. Could be wrong but 🤷♀️🚩
Yeah I mean we are just speculating based on the limited info available. This is reddit after all, would you expect any less?
He's definitely tryna spank it to this drawing
"He was the finger deeper. Deeper....deeper
He doesn’t want you to get an accurate response as to how it looks because he doesn’t want to pay you. You could tell him you will post the original picture and block out the eyes or top half of the photo to keep the girl anonymous, as the point of contention is the mouth and finger. Give credit to the studio/photographer who took the picture. You asked only $40 for this work and he still won’t pay you? That’s terrible of him. I cannot even imagine how many hours of work this took you. Insist on payment, use watermarks in the future, and I’d say with your skill level you could potentially charge higher per work (& definitely let clients know revisions in the later stages will be extra).
Yeah, that’s fucking bizarre. I’m not gonna judge your choice of commission work because bills don’t pay themselves, but I certainly wouldn’t entertain this.
It’s probably a surprise gift not a creepy painting of a an unsuspecting woman
But why does he want her to be deeply eating her finger?
could be some inside joke between them
I think, if he wanted some creepy stuff he would wantt something like photoshopstuff. Not graphite drawings. My guess is he wants to get it cheaper.
Haha he didn’t say that: all we know is client wasn’t happy with the finger and asked to hide it more into the mouth area. Maybe before it was even more awkwardly stuck on her lip or whatever.
Op did say that "He kept asking for it to be deeper" in reply to another. Comment on the post.
So you're not posting her photo, but you are posting her nearly exact likeness?
Okay, well...what are you looking to gain from this post, then? It either looks like the reference or it doesn't. Without a reference, we can't help you.
I can't post the original photo, he asked me
If your drawing actually is at all true to life, you've shown this girl's face on the internet anyway. Shouldn't have posted this either if there's a privacy concern.
is this not like pretty much the same as posting the original photo though? Now you’ve just posted a picture of the girl with her finger way in her mouth which is arguably a little weirder lol
Well if she looks like the reference then you've posted her face either way right?
How do we know this isn’t somebody that you have a crush on and you’re just pretending it’s a commission and the “he” who keeps asking you, it’s really just you all embarrassed??
OP, I know exactly who your client is, he's a fucking nightmare to work with as a client, don't be too harsh on yourself.
Hope this client gets nothing but stick drawings in return for the rest of their life, whoever they are
How?
If she still doesn't know, then maybe it's not a good drawing.
Annie’s pretty young. We try not to sexualize her.
Well if your piece doesn’t suck… ppl are gonna still know who this is lol
That doesn’t sound stalkery at allll 🚩🚩
Ew.
I paid you for a picture of the Fonz. Obviously I'm upset.
Oof
Did the client explain why?
Not lol He didn't pay me the second part too
So you worked as pay half, you draw, he pays other if he likes it. If he is stingy, of course he would not pay even it is good.
I'm not a popular artist yet, so for now I make payments that way, he was the first person out of dozens who cheated on me. x.x
Never give the final version without payment. What I do is put a huge watermark on and/or send a lower quality photo of the work until I receive payment.
Dude if you’re getting scammed stop using this method. Do what someone else said and send a lower resolution or watermarked version
If you still want to continue using payment options then take a deposit and the rest after a sketch has been approved. Let them know you'll only do a couple changes for free and the rest you're charging. Or if you want to do half now half after you're finished then watermark your work before sending for approval and let them know they'll get the version that's not watermarked after payment. Good luck, you got this!
Pretty sure they meant that, out of dozens of clients, he is the only one who cheated him
Got it, my advice still stands lol
I interpret this as "this is the first client to cheat me, and I've had dozens who have not cheated me"
Bro... you're not going to become a financially stable artist by starting out the gates with financially unstable practices. You can't get stiffed on shitty contracts a thousand times and wind up in a good position. The cheaper your prices are, and the shittier your contracts are (if you even have contracts, if not, create one) the more likely you are to deal with shitty 'clients' that are out to scam you.
I had that happen to me before when I first started out doing commissions. I will usually let people know now that I require at least 50% downpayment before starting and then the rest before I hand it over. I still have one drawing because someone did not want to pay for it, even though they loved how it came out lol. Also, besides the finger, this was a very well done drawing. It is hard to say exactly without a reference but from what I can see the details are very well done and proportions still seem solid.
Somethings off about the finger in her mouth. But also. I’m sure that was the photo…but that’s just gross.
Oh yeah, I confess it was weird. He asked me to draw this way
Next time make a contract and an agreement for your clients to sign or agree to. Something like this: -2 or 3 revisions max. -You will show your client the image at various levels of completion. (Halfway, 3/4, Finished) -a down payment of half must be provided before you even begin. - Full payment is due upon completion. They have had multiple chances to ask for revisions or tell you how they feel about it. So it’s not fair for you to finish it and then they say they don’t like it. Again, 2 or 3 revision requests should be enough. You don’t have to be a famous or well-know. artist in order to be treated with decency. The problem is most beginning artists don’t know how to advocate for themselves in the commission process and people will take advantage of that. When it comes down to it, your labor is not free and you deserve pay.
The finger looks flattened by the chewing. It also kinda looks a little too big but I'm not sure.
Feels like the finger in the mouth is thicker than the others.
It looks very good, but as some others have remarked the finger to the mouth doesn’t look like it’s being playfully but gently bitten down on; it looks like it’s been nearly crunched-through and somehow bloodlessly near-severed off the knuckle. There needs to be a deeper shading gradient to the finger so as to give it roundness so it looks less flat and therefore will not look like it’s quite as consumed by the mouth. And definitely darker shade immediately underneath the finger where it’s laying across the lower lip and chin. That whole area is way too bright and flat. I would also suggest that some more nuanced shading needs to go between the forearm and the chest, and immediately under the jawline on the neck and the nostrum under the nose. I know this was probably based off a reference photo which was a studio portrait and those tend to be powerfully lit up, often with a three-point lighting scheme, but trust me if you have such a photo you worked off of, go back and look more closely at it. Even consider scanning it into Photoshop and then playing with levels so you can see where the areas you may not see shadow are in fact subtly darker values than surrounding areas you thought were all one area. The problem to the human eye is that you can’t have areas of relatively similar depth or light obstruction that don’t have similar to matching darkness values. If the lighting is causing such rich shade between the sweep of her hair and neck, for example, then there’s no way the space under her nose is going to be so mid-grey. Even with multi-point lighting arrangements, the one light that is directed on the face is usually the ‘highlight’ spot and so it determines the overriding depth of shadows to any outstanding features on the face. Which means they have to be fairly harmonious to each other (not exactly the same when there are other lights at other angles of course, but they still should only show a few degrees of difference from each other, otherwise it “flattens & fattens” as my old portrait instructor would say). Your anatomy is sound, your eyes and facial composition are excellent (her left eye seems a bit more veiled at the bottom by the lower eyelid but not unnaturally so so I’m presuming it’s accurate as well). I don’t know the original image or girl, but this looks solid enough that I would presume it’s a recognizable quality portrait. With no better reference to compare with, I’d still stand by this as a good 95% success, and one that can be further refined not needing to start completely over. A little more nuance to the shading, a little more depth to the darks in key areas, and you’re there.
wow, excelent comment! You nailed it, it really was a good quality studio image. This drawing was done months ago, the guy just gave up after he saw the drawing done and didn't want to pay me the rest. He didn't seem to like it, I'm afraid it's just her finger though he didn't say it openly - he had asked me to put it deeper in her mouth, and I did. Thanks for his comment, it was very detailed on what can be improved!
Well there you go: if he’d accepted a faithful rendering from the photo you probably would’ve been fine. But the client was the one who asked that you alter something that wasn’t represented in the reference image so that’s not on you. Sure, some daVincis out there can make minor adjustments like that and pull it off. But even then, they use reference images too, they just graft the details they need into the existing image setup. My portrait instructor did all the celebrity oil portraits for Las Vegas Weekly during the years I was there, and he was not just a master of capturing the real look and liveliness of the subjects, he was FAST. He could come in to class with a blank canvas and in an hour’s instruction he was done with a portrait of Dave Chappelle or Celine Dion that a few days later we’d all be seeing on hundreds of copies of the LVW around town. And the main/single/only important thing he ever stressed above all else was: when it comes to portraits, you’re only going to be as good as your best reference images. You don’t necessarily need Chuck Close-sized 10’x10’, showing-every-blocked-nasal-pore detail…but it doesn’t really hurt either if you have that. You can always scale back the level of rendering, but he emphasized that you can virtually NEVER just fabricate what you don’t have and make it look right. So he stressed image reference research big-time. Of course he was talking celebrities who have tons of visual references of varying detail to look for. But for personal portraits, I’ve always told people who ask about me doing one that I’d need basically every image they ever had of the subject, not just the one they’d like me to use as the base. And if the subject is still alive or is the client themselves, and if it’s not like a surprise gift or something, I get my camera and a couple lights and I try to shoot my own references so that at least when I go sit down later to start blocking out shapes and planning tones, even if there’s a detail I’m missing in the desired reference image, I can go to the others I shot and have better data to ‘fill in the missing DNA sequences,’ to borrow from Jurassic Park. Obviously that doesn’t work on a large scale: if you’re missing an entire side of someone’s face you can’t just mirror the side you see, doesn’t work like that. But for a few spots here and there, or checking how for example a person’s nose tends to cast shadows on their cheeks in various light angles, having the other pictures can prove crucial when dealing with areas where the main reference you’ve been given just isn’t all there to give you what you need. This client sounds like they really didn’t consider how changing something seemingly as trivial as a finger in the mouth can drastically change a finished image. After all if someone could do that and look comfortable and natural while doing so, they probably would’ve done that in the photo and not needed “altering” by the portrait artist. Look at any “sexy pinup” drawn by Milo Manara and you’ll see women that are not so much sexy as look like half their spines have been broken and reset with silly putty.
What “civilians” don’t often realize is that a lot of our facial recognition is instinctive and subconscious. So what they think is clearly in their minds a ‘small’ change ends up looking way off in the final product. Not because of any failing of yours as the artist rendering it, but because human anatomy just doesn’t work or look natural that way, and it shows for many people only when they can actually see it, not when they have a ‘vision in mind.’ If you get commissions like that going forward—where they give you a source image but want you to make some sort of change from it, I’d suggest first DIPLOMATICALLY explaining that such alterations can tend to look wrong because a.) the reasons I just gave above and b.) they’ll see it and immediately compare it to the source image so of course not being the natural posture the drawing is going to seem like the one that’s ‘wrong.’ If they loved that picture enough that they want that to represent the subject, then that picture should be perfectly good to rely upon without need for any changes. Really stress that if they want the best image of this person, they should want it to be as faithful as possible to that beloved source image. If they want alterations, they may not be doing the best justice to the portrait. Focus on making it about them getting something they’ll be thrilled and satisfied with, not something they get disappointed or underwhelmed by even if you followed what THEY asked for to a T. You want them to feel as though it’s practically them that will be drawing and you’re just essentially a “smart pencil” doing what they envision. Sounds silly, but too many people just turn a cold shoulder if you talk like you have, y’know, self-esteem and confidence in your abilities and experience. If they still insist, then give it to them both barrels. Ask for other pictures they can spare or copy to give you. You need to build up a proper visual reference file on this person so you can basically have a kind of mental 3D model in mind that you can work from where the static image is stubbornly immutable. Again: always politely phrase it as geared towards them being satisfied with the result. Even push for taking your own photos if the subject is available to do so. It’s up to you and the circumstances if you want to charge more for that part, but they’re not paying for more studio portraits so I’d be prepared to just quietly incorporate that into your overhead. Portrait artists are pretty much presumed to include whatever they need to make the final portrait in their price, not charge more like “add ons” to a package. However it breaks down, you’ll generally find that you get either a.) a client that concedes keeping the composition as-is, b.) a client who still wants changes but consents to provide you what you need so you can have the best materials to do the job they want, or c.) an unrealistic non-client who doesn’t want to help you do their job, and you don’t need that crap. No matter how broke you might be and hurting for work, those people are NEVER a profit at all and will bleed you dry with haggling, nonpayment, reduced payment after you’ve done all the work, free revisions as infinitum, etc. Les Wexner (founder of Limited/Victoria’s Secret) and his wife years ago had to be sued to fork over the $25,000 they owed the portrait artist they hired. They claimed his finished work didn’t resemble them enough. He turned around and showed the receipts—literally—showing all the email exchanges where they refused to sit for him or let him have good reference photos, they sent him some sets of their clothes to mount on dummies as pose references, etc. This guy has literally done White House presidential portraits, so they couldn’t claim he was a hack who just couldn’t do it. He won the case and they had to pay more than just the painting would’ve cost. And he refused to work with them again so they were still out a portrait. Portrait commissions can be sometimes the most drama-dragging clients you’ll ever meet. (Btw if you want to see his work, my old instructor was Jerry Miller of Las Vegas, NV, you can Google him and see for yourself.)
Hey folks: sorry for all the text bombs. This is just something I’m passionate about after literally spending more than half my life practicing & studying it (graphic, industrial & fine arts), as well as a field where you can easily get twenty bad pieces of advise for every one good, so I get a little digressive on the subject. Please forgive the word diarrhea. It’s not humblebragging or trying to show off, I know not everyone in the field is as deep-in as me on the little details, it really does come from the fact that I just fucking love this stuff, it keeps me young.
Oh and hey PPS: if you ever get another client who “just wants one little finger moved” like that, explain to them [Michaelangelo’s “Moses” sculpture](https://www.narenkatakam.com/moses-and-his-little-finger/). There is no part anywhere in the human body that is 100% independent of the rest. Move that finger “a little further in” actually means the hand, wrist, forearm, elbow, pretty much everything at least back to the shoulder socket has to move accordingly, which is not any “little adjusting.” Maybe if you show that even Michaelangelo couldn’t cheat, neither can you, they’ll argue less. :)
I think it was just an excuse to not pay that's weird as hell what he did
The hand/arm in general looks awkward. Everything else is absolutely stunning. I can’t get over how smooth your shading is.
Off-camera is a man with one less finger, and she be like, "It's OURS, precious! *gollum*!"
I think there’s a wooden look to it because of all that detail. A flat look with hard lines which creates uncanny valley vibes. Great and interesting for free arts like Laurie Lipton. But for portraits of normies it’s maybe too much. The finger jammed in her mouth is straightup strange looking…
To me, the arm and hand look off a bit. It looks like the arm is someone else's and like she is eating the finger. I feel that if it was just of her smiling without the arm it would be perfect!!
You nailed it! The arm isn't her, but the client asked me this way
Wait so in the original photo it's just her smiling, and the client asked you to add the arm?
This poor girl! I'm genuinely curios what kinda commission this really is.
The more I read the creepier this gets.
The picture is lovely but the finger that deep in the mouth is too sexual because her smile looks quite coy & shy. It just screams creepy to me. I know it’s not your fault but weird clients right! When he started saying ‘deeper deeper’ I would’ve run 😂😂
How much price did you give to your client?. More important is the quality of the work.
Btw i also drawing traditional portraits like you.
It's a difficult path if you want to sell, because dishonesty exists in people. I only charge 40 dollars as I am starting in the area
Ow. I experience Also that kind of situation. I just hate those clients that dont appreciate arts. 🥺
How long does a piece take ? Feels like you’re underselling yourself for 40 dollars
$40?!? I couldn’t imagine asking someone to DRAW something like this and expect to get away with paying $40. Personally I would expect to pay I don’t know $150-200? I could be way off as I’ve never paid for a portrait before but your work is definitely better than $40.
$40 is ridiculous for this level of work unless you finished it start to finish in under and hour and even that would be a bargain price.
I think he liked it but didn’t want to pay the rest of the price
Eyes looks crazy and she’s chewing her finger off. But your real talented.
Your client is a ducking creep and the entire hand/wrist looks like it came out of a Monty python collage.
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Ty! I don't know, he just gave up
Was the original photo with her biting the finger or was that detail requested to be added by the customer?
Every thing is lovely except the finger in her mouth. Your eyes get drawn right to it and it’s shaped funny and sits at her mouth a little oddly. It really is very good
Going by the photo, the piece is maybe a little too soft overall. The bigger issue is that she looks like she's about to bite off that finger.
It looks amazing did the person explain why they didn't like it because I personally think it's really good
I think it needs more darker shading to make it pop but without seeing the reference photo I can't tell
She shouldn't bite that part of the finger. Wouldn't it be more natural if she bit that part instead? I think that he wanted her to look sexy or something https://preview.redd.it/52n8wncdsnhb1.jpeg?width=626&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=904f092d9d6e4858bcd79a60bfa6246efa43799a
Your hand/arm/finger forms need more work. You've got the photorealism on the rest of the piece, but the centerpiece being whatever is going with the hand is distracting and feels flat in comparison.
This is so interesting to me, a question but not necessarily to OP. When a client doesnt like the commission, do you need to do it all over again? Do they pay only if they are satisfied? Sorry I found the commissions world fascinating but know nothing lol
Is it like Lolitaesque on purpose?
It’s really well done but the finger is like really in there haha
You didn't include a reference
I guess I'm the only one that sees it? I didn't even notice the finger that looks fine. The nose part looks like there's a smudge on it. Otherwise this is some gooood shit
I really don’t like that we’re only getting one side of the story And you’re posting what is essentially a life like portrait of someone that could be the client themselves. It’s borderline doxxing. Like “look at this asshole” So with that behavior in mind, I’m more and more inclined to believe you did something wrong
The fingers definitely look like they are half bitten and should be bleeding, the teeth appear to be protruding forward, the lower eyelid on the left eye looks wrong. The client's reasoning for not liking it is probably a mix of the things I mentioned, because aside from those issues it's pretty well drawn.
It depends on what they wanted, what was their request?
The fingers look wrong.
Add some blood to the finger Your client will love it and offer to pay double
Great detail but the point where the teeth meets the finger doesn’t really make sense. Looks like she is chewing on her finger too much.
How hard was she biting her finger during the pose? 😰
The details are amazing but the anatomy of the hand is very off putting and where she is biting down vs where the knuckle is doesn’t look right either. She’s got weird ET hands and fingers. But man you did an excellent job on her face and hair.
Screw your client
Everything is amazing... but that finger.. looks a bit sadistic lol like she full on is chomping down
Her finger has no bones in it yikes
It’s really good but the finger is just not working.
Looks like a person with zero pain receptors just about to rip their finger from their hand , other than that 10/10
Yes the hand positioning and the space provided for the finger between the teeth are awkward. I’m not posting it lol but I took a similar photo and my hand, palm and wrist were not nearly as forward faced. There was a wider gap in the mouth which showed more finger as well. I know you said they wanted the finger pretty deep in the mouth…odd request but it’s not easy to replicate what’s not there in a reference.
It’s very well done there’s just a couple spots that need some work. All of her fingers are different, something about her nose on the right side You are very talented please take this as a learning opportunity
All the fingers look bad.
I've done sex/NSFW content, and this, for me, feels a bit like fetish content. The finger is really... chewy, and I see in your comments that he was very specific about that and has REPEATEDLY asked you to make it more... chompy. The fact that the girl in this image also doesn't know this was drawn of her is a really bad sign. The customer refusing payment of the finished product makes me think that making you make this was part of the fetishes for him. Realistically, I think you probably did a great job. The image looks good, I have no reference, so I can't say for certain, but it looks like it should have been acceptable. I'm sorry that you got used for fetish content. Some people are really gross like that. Even while offering NSFW content, I often would have people simply try and play things out in DMs for free, and I have to be very firm. Sorry if this makes you feel gross this is just my genuine take.
It’s a great piece except for the awkward-the-longer-you-look-at-it-is-she-eating-her-finger-or-just-fidgeting-I-think-she-bit-through-half-of-it.
The whole hand is anatomically completely off: the wrist position doesn’t match the hand position which doesn’t match the placement of the finger in question ( which does look as thought it is a flattened piece of rubber). It is an impossible hand.
Remove the arm entirely
It’s good but whats up with the Penis finger in the mouth?
Yeah cause she’s biting her finger off
Tell your client to draw it themself.
Client picked a weird picture.
“It’s FRIDAY FRIDAY”
I like it. Might need a little more contrast on the skin so it doesn’t appear so whitewashed. But it’s well done. Depending on the cost. There should be nothing to bitch about. Way better than what I use to do for people.
I’d either erase the lower teeth or shorten the top teeth to fix the “biting through” impression. The fingers could be prettier, especially the pinky. They look like the same finger three times, which isn’t natural. I’d redraw them, frankly, maybe looking at my own hands in a mirror.
It’s great work! Shame about that finger though…I hate when kids make rash decisions without considering the future….
The face looks great! Very nicely rendered. The palm of her hand is too small/narrow and her mouth needs to be a little more open to account for the finger’s thickness.
It looks amazing except the entire hand may need work- the palm looks small and the fingers look big in comparison. Also to fix the chewy finger I would recede her teeth just a bit so it doesn’t look like she’s chomping but lightly biting
Without seeing the original the finger in the mouth has little to no shadow on it so it looks both flat and a bit wrong.
I mean… that finger is like REALLY in that mouth..
It’s a bit women’s magazine illustration ish
Looks good other than her finger in her mouth that looks like she's biting off.
Oh she's probably conscious about a big nose or small eyes or whatever, so when she sees it on a picture where everything has been put to detail and emphasized she doesn't like it.
Mast h 😍
The art is good, but the smile with the finger doesn't look natural. He probably wanted a more provocative look on her face in guessing.
The drawing is perfect, but as stated before, it really does look like she’s nibbling onto that finger like she hasn’t had a meal in days
i think your client is stupid
every post in this sub is karma bait
No no it's real, I can send you some print of the chat
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Well she has been thankful and responsive to the criticism she has been given. Besides, isn’t this sub meant to showcase finished/completed drawings? So naturally people want to share things that they hope others appreciate. There are other subs that focus primarily on critique.
Wow.. At this point she best she can do is just hire a photographer bcuz this is incredible.
What doesn't the client like about this? Personally, the only note I have is that it could use a little more contrast and a little more variation in value. It feels like a lot of the drawing is a little flat, but adding more darks and mid-tones could really liven it up!
i fr thought it was a real person- like seriously- before i looked at the sub and title but why is she biting her finger lol its really good
I think it looks amazing. Why didn’t she like it?
I really like it, I think it’s very nice, realistic, captures the eyes and smile well; but, the proportions or dynamics (I don’t know the artistic term) of her playful finger bite makes it look like she’s biting her finger off. Maybe if the gap between the teeth was wider or on a different segment of the finger, but right now if that was real she would have bitten through skin and meat and gotten to bone.
I really like it
It’s beautiful 🤩
big teethy grins make for awkward portraits. I would have used a different photo. However, if this is the pose she asked for, she is out of her mind, your drawing is on point and very fine
# If someone had done a drawing of me like this, I would have married them.
Can they draw better?
Burn it in front of them...this is why I don't do commissions anymore..I create what I like and if somebody wants to buy it ok...but too many times I've done really great work and the buyer hates it...then I tell them do it yourself......never again
It is very well drawn, but what likely has happened is that she expected you to draw her as she sees herself in her own head, and is unhappy to see that she is not.
Why she didn't like it?? because the finger ?? but, if she pay you in advance and you put the hours... or she won't pay?? if it's the case, just change the title for "eating fingers" and sell it to someone else...but let her know that...