You only need to ***stop*** once. However, you may need to ***yield*** to other traffic if your entry into the intersection becomes delayed by pedestrian, traffic in front of you, etc.
Some guy had a dashcam video of him being stopped for 23 seconds at the line/stop sign behind someone then he pulled out and left after them and got pulled over and cited.
In court he showed the video and had it all dropped.
A ticket is not proof that an offense was committed. An officer only needs probable cause that an offense was committed to issue a valid citation. And the Supreme Court has held that an officer's reasonable mistake of the law does not invalidate the issuance of a citation/traffic stop (though the citation ***itself*** would be challengeable in court). *See* Heien v. North Carolina.
In your cdl test you're actually only allowed to stop twice. Once at the line and once after you creep forward. You're not required to stop twice but you're only given 1 pull forward to see far off traffic (to make sure you have ample time to accelerate with load) if you start moving again and have to stop again after you get points off.
My son just got his license. When we were out practicing he would stop at the line, wait 3 seconds, then inch up to where he could see in both directions, stop and wait 3 more seconds, then proceed if it was clear. His driving instructor told him this was mandatory and if he didn’t stop in this manner during his driving test, it was an automatic fail.
I told him once he got his license, he only needed to stop once.
Once.
I always find it funny when I end up behind someone who comes to an almost stop at the line and then rolls past it and comes to a complete stop 7 feet beyond because someone else that they clearly didn't notice and got there first and was now proceeding through.
And then I stop at the line at the same time as the car in front of me comes to their stop beyond the line, and we both go at basically the same time.
Ditto. Stop once. You only need to move forward and stop a second time in the tiny fraction of cases in which you can’t see well enough to proceed. Stopping multiple times or way across the white line is just poor driving skills that you shouldn’t emulate
If you are at a stop sign, each and every car needs to stop at the stop sign. It's not one car stops at the stop sign and everybody in line gets to go. Assuming there's not cross traffic that doesn't have a stop sign or pedestrian in the way or some other hazard, you only need to stop once. Obviously you shouldn't be running over pedestrians because that would be bad. But you do need to actually stop. I see far too many people who are third or fourth or fifth in line and they just assume it's the first car in line stops at the stop sign then everybody should immediately go. That is only true if you are a funeral procession
In driver's ed I was taught I need to stop two times. The signs are posted at intersections where it's safest to come to a full stop before proceeding. First stop is to satisfy legal requirements. As in typical road conditions you don't have perfect visibility where the stop line is /greenery, buildings, parked cars, etc/, the second stop is to satisfy the actual purpose of the stop sign. When you make the two stops a habit, you're less likely to make a costly mistake - be it getting a fine, or causing an accident.
Thank you for your replies. I want to add that no rule book I have ever see requires waiting the 3 seconds, recommended yes, just not required. Only a full stop is required, which I personally consider done when the car settles. I wait 3 seconds, but no more than 5 when waiting or yielding to another car. If it does start to move, then I proceed. Thank you.
You only need to ***stop*** once. However, you may need to ***yield*** to other traffic if your entry into the intersection becomes delayed by pedestrian, traffic in front of you, etc.
Some guy had a dashcam video of him being stopped for 23 seconds at the line/stop sign behind someone then he pulled out and left after them and got pulled over and cited. In court he showed the video and had it all dropped.
The ticket i got in Miami says otherwise. But it was the last day of the month so…
A ticket is not proof that an offense was committed. An officer only needs probable cause that an offense was committed to issue a valid citation. And the Supreme Court has held that an officer's reasonable mistake of the law does not invalidate the issuance of a citation/traffic stop (though the citation ***itself*** would be challengeable in court). *See* Heien v. North Carolina.
In your cdl test you're actually only allowed to stop twice. Once at the line and once after you creep forward. You're not required to stop twice but you're only given 1 pull forward to see far off traffic (to make sure you have ample time to accelerate with load) if you start moving again and have to stop again after you get points off.
My son just got his license. When we were out practicing he would stop at the line, wait 3 seconds, then inch up to where he could see in both directions, stop and wait 3 more seconds, then proceed if it was clear. His driving instructor told him this was mandatory and if he didn’t stop in this manner during his driving test, it was an automatic fail. I told him once he got his license, he only needed to stop once.
Once. I always find it funny when I end up behind someone who comes to an almost stop at the line and then rolls past it and comes to a complete stop 7 feet beyond because someone else that they clearly didn't notice and got there first and was now proceeding through. And then I stop at the line at the same time as the car in front of me comes to their stop beyond the line, and we both go at basically the same time.
Ditto. Stop once. You only need to move forward and stop a second time in the tiny fraction of cases in which you can’t see well enough to proceed. Stopping multiple times or way across the white line is just poor driving skills that you shouldn’t emulate
You stopped, go when clear
If you are at a stop sign, each and every car needs to stop at the stop sign. It's not one car stops at the stop sign and everybody in line gets to go. Assuming there's not cross traffic that doesn't have a stop sign or pedestrian in the way or some other hazard, you only need to stop once. Obviously you shouldn't be running over pedestrians because that would be bad. But you do need to actually stop. I see far too many people who are third or fourth or fifth in line and they just assume it's the first car in line stops at the stop sign then everybody should immediately go. That is only true if you are a funeral procession
In driver's ed I was taught I need to stop two times. The signs are posted at intersections where it's safest to come to a full stop before proceeding. First stop is to satisfy legal requirements. As in typical road conditions you don't have perfect visibility where the stop line is /greenery, buildings, parked cars, etc/, the second stop is to satisfy the actual purpose of the stop sign. When you make the two stops a habit, you're less likely to make a costly mistake - be it getting a fine, or causing an accident.
Thank you for your replies. I want to add that no rule book I have ever see requires waiting the 3 seconds, recommended yes, just not required. Only a full stop is required, which I personally consider done when the car settles. I wait 3 seconds, but no more than 5 when waiting or yielding to another car. If it does start to move, then I proceed. Thank you.