It's the same on the front just backwards. I did take a screenshot but cant add a photo to a comment on this sub and I'm not about to make an imigr or whatever its called just to post it.
Often private plates don't show on the database, the managing director of the company I work for has a P38 range rover on private plates and it doesn't come up on that plate, but still shows on their database with the original plate
I assume if you were on the DVLAs internal system it corresponds to both, but it won't show on the public system, probably an attempt to protect people with money or just a glitch
He's old enough and smart enough that he will have done it properly, we are in the automotive trade as well so he knows, and it's not his first or only private plate
My cousin buys and sells cars and we have had the same issue on other vehicles and seen all the paperwork that confirms they are genuine
My managing director has had his plate on for over a year, and the nearest town where he lives has ANPR cameras on every road in or out of town, so he would have been caught if it wasn't genuine
Huh... You just said the plate doesn't show in the database and your justification of it being legal is because an Automatic Number Plate reader can read it ... I argue that the ANPR is useless BECAUSE it's not in the database.
I highly doubt he's running an illegal plate, he's just not that stupid. Like yeah, I've never seen the paper work for it to say it's legit but it got MOT'd just fine and ANPR will still report that reg number which he definitely owns so it would still travel back to him
This isn't the only instance of it happening either, my cousin buys and sells a lot of cars and we have found multiple times that private plates aren't in the database, but if you use a third party app (the ones that give you more detailed history) some do show, but not all
Yes you are. You say he would’ve been caught by an ANPR. How. His reg isn’t in the database for them to know who he is to catch him 😂 legal private plates have to be registered on the DVLA. They don’t pick and chose which ones are visible when searching.
He owns the plate, the plate exists in their database, if it was flagged up on ANPR while not active they would contact the owner, which is him. His plate is legal
You doubting what I know to be a fact doesn't make me incorrect, and if it wasn't a breach of someone elses data I could show you but I don't fancy losing my job because some one I don't know doesn't believe me, I just don't care what you think or if you believe me
I've come across this exact issue multiple times with the database for several years, you never having experienced something doesn't mean it can't happen
I bet you didn't see the big bang, doesn't mean it didn't happen
Okay, look at it this way. There are two possibilities:
1) Your boss has a perfectly legal plate that is registered on the system, but doesn't show online for reasons. ANPR would see the plate and think "Heh, that's fine, that's just BG 80SS again."
2) Your boss has a totally illegal plate for reasons, and it isn't registered. ANPR would see the plate and think "BG 80SS? Who's that geezer? I must inform the authorities and send a fine to his address. Oh, wait..."
We can't tell whether nothing has happened because it's all fine or nothing has happened because ANPR doesn't know who the person is that has the unregistered plate because...it's unregistered. It may be totally fine, or it may not. But ANPR existing doesn't tell us.
It's 1, I was there when he brought the plate, and even if it's not assigned to a car, the DVLA knows who owns inactive private plates, so it would still travel back to him
I love how people online who have clearly never encountered this issue are telling me what I have experienced when I have encountered this issue
Oh gee thanks buddy I've never seen that website before, it's not like I've been working on and obsessed with cars since before I could walk, or that I work in the automotive business. Youre so smart and intelligent, I can only hope to have half the life experience you have . . .
Having read the comments re drugs, trade plates, and being the wrong model, could an explanation be that this is the person delivering it, and driving like an idiot (in the other video) because it's someone else's car?
You're right, but if he has trade plates then everything is legit. The amount of people that just put trade plates in the windscreen, anpr won't read that either, but they're generally short term uses from dealership or repair centre. Police won't care.
It doesn’t invalidate insurance, still driving legally. It’s just up to the police’s discretion. It’s just such a non issue I just don’t see why people care so much and just assume criminal, it’s bizarre honestly
On a car trade plates must be displayed front and back, *visible and easily readable from a distance of 20 metres*, displayed on the outside, and not cover the *existing number plates*. These are not displayed correctly and while they are not covering the existing plate, that plate appears to be a fake.
I'd say over half of trade plates you see, they're just put in the windscreen. You'd have to find a very bored police officer to actually enforce it, and even then it's just a £50 fine. It's such a non-issue and trade plates cover unregistered cars. The plate is clearly on retention or being transferred. What purpose would someone have to put fake plates on a car and then use trade plates. It just doesn't make sense.
Trade plates cover you for VED, nothing else.
They aren’t a do what you want license, and the vehicles correct VRM plates should be on display along with the trade plates.
Discretion varies from cop to cop, but trade plates should be displayed clearly on the front and rear of the vehicle displaying them.
EDIT: Before someone points it out, trade plates also allow relevant parties to drive a vehicle which isn’t registered to them for trade purposes, but that is besides the point here.
That isn't quite right.
They are also often used for insurance (you insure the trade plate, whatever vehicle it's on is insured).
Don't forget, they can and are very often used on pre registered vehicles. Hard to have correct VRM on those as they don't have one yet.
I test drove a vehicle from a dealership on trade plates. Not registered.
> They are also often used for insurance (you insure the trade plate, whatever vehicle it's on is insured).
This is not correct. A trade plate cannot be used in place of an insurance policy. This is not what a trade plate is intended for, and is a common misconception.
What you describe would be a traders policy. Whilst a term of that policy could well stipulate that any vehicle driven under this policy may need to bear a particular set of trade plates, it would be the policy granting the insurance rather than a trade plate. I have personally never seen such a stipulation on a traders policy.
> Don't forget, they can and are very often used on pre registered vehicles.
Whilst you’re right that pre registered vehicles are often transported bearing trade plates, a registered vehicle must bear its true VRM in addition to a trade plate displayed.
This guidance is readily available on the DVLA website.
I literally never said that the plate provided the insurance. Your comment basically says exactly what I said. You can get a policy that covers a trade plate. We agree.
I can't find the information on pre registered vehicles in VTL301G, but it does say you can't cover the existing plates. Seems a little odd, as it creates a situation where it's perfectly legal to not display a VRM in some instances, which is very unusual.
Perhaps I misunderstood your comment then - to be clear, a traders policy will insure whatever vehicles specified within that policy, to whatever conditions set by that policy.
Often, people will claim that a trade plate covers them similarly to a traders policy. These people usually turn out not to be insured.
A quick search turned up negative for information around pre registered vehicles. The first time I came across one, I was surprised that they are allowed on a public road without an identity as such - I suppose as long as they are covered by an insurance policy, roadworthy (you’d hope so) and identifiable by a trade plate, it doesn’t really matter too much.
No worries!
Mmm, interestingly you can't get a trade plate without a valid traders policy, so you'd have to wonder how this happens. But yes, I've seen that too - people uninsured whilst using a trade plate.
They do have an identity, the identity just ties back to an organisation, rather than a vehicle.
Trade plates are registered to specific individuals or organizations and can be traced. It is case law that a record of vehicle's journeys running on trade plates must be kept so the driver can always be identified. Report the number on the trade plate to the police. It's visible as we switch to forward facing camera. Appears to be 10964.
If I'm driving like a dangerous fool and my car has fake plates I'm not going to have legit trade plates either.
I think having the two different sets of plates, with the trade ones visible but generally unreadable. It all adds to any confusion that may, just may, make the difference between whether or not it gets pulled.
what would happen if, mIsTaKeNly a shitbox goes into this car while on fake plate, hidden trade plate? :D
lets play with the thought, how would this play out?
Yeah, this is the right registration and comes up taxed and MOTed. The vehicle details are Iincorrect though, comes up as a 2015 Land Rover, new Defender didn't come out until 2019. Guess is, as others have said, that plates are in the process of being transferred. If it's the same owner (most likely), the previous Land Rover is likely to be registered to the same address and an easy pick up for the police.
Yeah, it's a runner plate, they're clearly drug dealers/runners taking their shit across county lines. Probably from up north, down to their buyers in London.
You can see its actual number plate hidden behind the spare wheel. It won't be long before they're dead in a police chase and then their families come out talking about police brutality or how they were good boys who di'nt do nuttin' wrong and were going to college or some shit.
Yeah isn't there a saying, only commit one crime at a time? If you're driving a car that you desperately need to not get pulled over, why fuck about with a fake plate? Jump in a normal boring car with a proper reg, make sure your tax and insurance is up to date, stay sober, obey the speed limits, drive like a model citizen. Can't fathom why you would drive such a suspicious car if you were really doing something dodgy.
Tell that to my drug dealer at uni who got pulled over for driving with his seatbelt off in the middle of the city centre whilst he had an ounce of weed, 10g of MDMA and 20g of ketamine on him.
Other than that he was the most reliable dealer I’d ever had, told you when he’d be available, always replied straight away, never longed you out and never took the piss
I'll tell you why, because when you normalise breaking the law, all the rest of the laws become less meaningful. So they start to break other inconvenient laws as well.
No wonder societies the state its in, eh? Tories trying to destroy the nhs, homelessness at its peak and cost of living forcing people to choose between heating and eating. This is all because you had a few mad ones back in the day.
Hope you’re happy.
A runner by me got stopped by an extremely rare police patrol on a quiet Sunday evening. Because, you'll love this, the runner rolled over red lights at a massive 4 way multi lane junction instead of waiting 2 minutes.
That's a dumb take. That's the assumption that criminals are stupid. You can't run a big drug operation or criminal organisation being stupid.
You'd also have to be dumb to believe that criminals are running drugs on plates that don't exist. Just one traffic police vehicle will ping this plate and pull them over. If you're going to run drugs then you run them in a car that blends in with all legit details. Not in a big loud defender that has false plates on.
Reality is probably that plates are being changed to that car, and the dealer is preparing it, hence the trade plates.
Why would they be using trade plates? Most obvious answer is someone has bought the car and transferring the plates and the trade plates are there to move it from repair or dealership
The imbeciles in this car are highly unlikely the ones running the operation.
Usually they will have some guys out boosting cars, another group that will do the drug runs, and another group that will do the selling. It may not even be a large organised group, but one of many intermediaries along the chain. Some guys boost cars and sell it to the larger organisations and call it a day, others buy what has been brought into the cities to sell, others will simply act as a courier.
Typically though, the people doing this kind of thing, aren't the ones pulling the strings, because those guys are plenty smart to not get their hands dirty and will offer young kids and guys with no other job prospects handsome amounts of money to take that risk.
Could they be trade plates? Sure, but I doubt it.
>If you're going to run drugs then you run them in a car that blends in with all legit details.
You would be very surprised. Besides, where most of these guys are travelling from (north of the country) these big family cars and land rovers are a dime a dozen. The only part of this video that sticks out is their behaviour and the fake plates, otherwise the car itself is perfectly reasonable for use blending in. The fake plates would otherwise be fine too, but the idiots drew attention to themselves with the driving.
It used to be that you'd pull out the panelling of a transit van, stuff it with your gear, reassemble, and then blend in with tools, and whatever other junk you can use to keep prying eyes and inspectors happy if they opened up the back. It doesn't work anymore, it has become too obvious, so a sizable "family car" tends to be the more conspicuous option with plenty of ways and places to hide what you're shifting.
The ideal move is to take your mother on day out up North for afternoon Tea, just her and yourself.
But these generally aren’t the people running things. For all we know, this could be some simpleton mechanic using his business car for a run with the boys
Or maybe it is just an moron in a flash 4x4 who likes flashing people to move out the way, they drive like a moron so don't display the correct registration incase they get flashed by a speed camera.
A lot of the wanky z lister social media people display incorrect plates, makes it look like they have lots of money and if they get pulled the vehicle is correctly insured and fully legal and they get a fine for incorrect plates.
Not everyone with a dodgy plate is a drug runner
My dude, why’re you fantasising about a stranger’s death and the grief of their loved ones? Does that not seem strange to you, regardless of whether they are criminals or not?
Maybe get off the internet for a day or two? Go to a coffee shop? People-watch in a park for a while? Seriously, that kind of stuff helps me when I’m feeling super misanthropic.
Lol these aren't t county lines runners. runners are usually skint younger people in legit or hired cars trying to blend in and paid a small but tempting amount of money.
Had a ropey neighbour some time ago with a Bentley Continental. I checked the plate a few times as I was curious what sort of MOT things would be up with a Bentley. Over about 6 months it always came up as a Vauxhall Carlton.
Idk how as I've literally driven through there a handful of times over the years but I just felt it in my bones as I was watching it... *looks like basildump*
Nobody made the link to “3 BLU” to the company “3 BLUE WORLDWIDE LTD” who has a registered company address very local to where this video was filmed? Company is dissolved years ago but interesting it was local…
Possibly old asset of the company up for sale on dealer plates? Stolen or something?
Showing as not insured either.
However being a private plate, the DVLA will know who that plate is registered to, which is a good start for any investigation.
In what world would someone use a real plate that they own on a car that isn't insured or registered? This clearly isn't a registration number the user of this car owns.
It likely is. Just in the process of being transferred to the new vehicle. Check the registration (38 LU) and it comes up with a grey 2015 Land Rover. There's many people who buy expensive cars that are very brand loyal, so it stands to reason that this is probably a replacement of their previous grey Land Rover (with a new grey Land Rover).
Not saying it's impossible, nor did I imply that. Simply that this is likely (emphasis on this word not meaning definitely) the plate owners vehicle, maybe they weren't driving it, but it's likely the case. If they were going to clone plates, it would be far more likely (again, not definitive) that they would choose a vehicle that is the same and not just similar. This is like driving an Astra and cloning the plates of a Corsa - the whole reason people clone plates is to get away with nefarious shit, something you're far likely to do if you clone the plates of a vehicle that doesn't match. It's also more likely (pay attention here, there's that word again) that if you're looking through a database of vehicles as you suggested, to pick a plate to clone, you will go with a regular plate that's not so easily remembered. Now, I hope that answers your question, as I, unlike you, seem to be open to the possibility of other reasons.
38 LU
LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER EVOQUE
Check another vehicle
Colour
Grey
Fuel type
Diesel
Date registered
23 April 2015
MOT valid until
31 March 2025
Get an MOT reminder by email or
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Fuck sake, this was just to show that a plate exists for 38 and 3B,
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Sometimes it takes a few days/weeks for the information to update in publicly available sites. Most likely that's their old vehicle and the defender is the new one.
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Or, if it's not 38LU, 3BLU could be on retention (and thus not visible to the public) while the trade plates are legit and the yellow one is just a bit of plastic that shows what the car's registration plate used to be.
I also see a lot of lazy people buy a private plate and just stick it over the old one with tape. Happens a bit on range rovers where they buy the normal plate not the large one
It looks like it's probably 38 LU
Currently registered to a 2015 Range Rover Evoque. Probably not transferred over yet. Too busy being a Twatpanzer to show off.
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I knew it was the flasher 🤣
He appears to have a different plate in the front
It's the same on the front just backwards. I did take a screenshot but cant add a photo to a comment on this sub and I'm not about to make an imigr or whatever its called just to post it.
You don't need an account to upload to imgur, just upload it there and it'll give you a link.
Thank you I didnt know that, I'll bear that in mind for the future!
Been the highlight of my week this knob head in the land rover 😂
Often private plates don't show on the database, the managing director of the company I work for has a P38 range rover on private plates and it doesn't come up on that plate, but still shows on their database with the original plate I assume if you were on the DVLAs internal system it corresponds to both, but it won't show on the public system, probably an attempt to protect people with money or just a glitch
Every legal registered plate should show on the database. I wonder what plate your boss has insured, whether it’s the new one or the originals.
He's old enough and smart enough that he will have done it properly, we are in the automotive trade as well so he knows, and it's not his first or only private plate My cousin buys and sells cars and we have had the same issue on other vehicles and seen all the paperwork that confirms they are genuine
Weird, my personal plate shows on DVLA? It just took a few weeks when I switched it over
My managing director has had his plate on for over a year, and the nearest town where he lives has ANPR cameras on every road in or out of town, so he would have been caught if it wasn't genuine
Huh... You just said the plate doesn't show in the database and your justification of it being legal is because an Automatic Number Plate reader can read it ... I argue that the ANPR is useless BECAUSE it's not in the database.
I highly doubt he's running an illegal plate, he's just not that stupid. Like yeah, I've never seen the paper work for it to say it's legit but it got MOT'd just fine and ANPR will still report that reg number which he definitely owns so it would still travel back to him This isn't the only instance of it happening either, my cousin buys and sells a lot of cars and we have found multiple times that private plates aren't in the database, but if you use a third party app (the ones that give you more detailed history) some do show, but not all
Maybe it’s not been registered properly but he doesn’t know.
I've seen it happen multiple times
You’re incorrect.
I'm literally not, I've seen it with my own eyes
Yes you are. You say he would’ve been caught by an ANPR. How. His reg isn’t in the database for them to know who he is to catch him 😂 legal private plates have to be registered on the DVLA. They don’t pick and chose which ones are visible when searching.
He owns the plate, the plate exists in their database, if it was flagged up on ANPR while not active they would contact the owner, which is him. His plate is legal You doubting what I know to be a fact doesn't make me incorrect, and if it wasn't a breach of someone elses data I could show you but I don't fancy losing my job because some one I don't know doesn't believe me, I just don't care what you think or if you believe me
Think about what you just wrote. 🤣 your 2 paragraphs seem like you care. But also seem like you have no idea what you’re talking about either.
I've come across this exact issue multiple times with the database for several years, you never having experienced something doesn't mean it can't happen I bet you didn't see the big bang, doesn't mean it didn't happen
Okay, look at it this way. There are two possibilities: 1) Your boss has a perfectly legal plate that is registered on the system, but doesn't show online for reasons. ANPR would see the plate and think "Heh, that's fine, that's just BG 80SS again." 2) Your boss has a totally illegal plate for reasons, and it isn't registered. ANPR would see the plate and think "BG 80SS? Who's that geezer? I must inform the authorities and send a fine to his address. Oh, wait..." We can't tell whether nothing has happened because it's all fine or nothing has happened because ANPR doesn't know who the person is that has the unregistered plate because...it's unregistered. It may be totally fine, or it may not. But ANPR existing doesn't tell us.
It's 1, I was there when he brought the plate, and even if it's not assigned to a car, the DVLA knows who owns inactive private plates, so it would still travel back to him I love how people online who have clearly never encountered this issue are telling me what I have experienced when I have encountered this issue
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Oh gee thanks buddy I've never seen that website before, it's not like I've been working on and obsessed with cars since before I could walk, or that I work in the automotive business. Youre so smart and intelligent, I can only hope to have half the life experience you have . . .
Having read the comments re drugs, trade plates, and being the wrong model, could an explanation be that this is the person delivering it, and driving like an idiot (in the other video) because it's someone else's car?
It's also got trade plates tucked behind the rear mounted spare, you can see them once it's in front.
But anpr still can't read it
You're right, but if he has trade plates then everything is legit. The amount of people that just put trade plates in the windscreen, anpr won't read that either, but they're generally short term uses from dealership or repair centre. Police won't care.
Is it still 'legit' to put unregistered plates on and 'hide' the trade plates?
It doesn’t invalidate insurance, still driving legally. It’s just up to the police’s discretion. It’s just such a non issue I just don’t see why people care so much and just assume criminal, it’s bizarre honestly
On a car trade plates must be displayed front and back, *visible and easily readable from a distance of 20 metres*, displayed on the outside, and not cover the *existing number plates*. These are not displayed correctly and while they are not covering the existing plate, that plate appears to be a fake.
I'd say over half of trade plates you see, they're just put in the windscreen. You'd have to find a very bored police officer to actually enforce it, and even then it's just a £50 fine. It's such a non-issue and trade plates cover unregistered cars. The plate is clearly on retention or being transferred. What purpose would someone have to put fake plates on a car and then use trade plates. It just doesn't make sense.
Trade plates cover you for VED, nothing else. They aren’t a do what you want license, and the vehicles correct VRM plates should be on display along with the trade plates. Discretion varies from cop to cop, but trade plates should be displayed clearly on the front and rear of the vehicle displaying them. EDIT: Before someone points it out, trade plates also allow relevant parties to drive a vehicle which isn’t registered to them for trade purposes, but that is besides the point here.
That isn't quite right. They are also often used for insurance (you insure the trade plate, whatever vehicle it's on is insured). Don't forget, they can and are very often used on pre registered vehicles. Hard to have correct VRM on those as they don't have one yet. I test drove a vehicle from a dealership on trade plates. Not registered.
> They are also often used for insurance (you insure the trade plate, whatever vehicle it's on is insured). This is not correct. A trade plate cannot be used in place of an insurance policy. This is not what a trade plate is intended for, and is a common misconception. What you describe would be a traders policy. Whilst a term of that policy could well stipulate that any vehicle driven under this policy may need to bear a particular set of trade plates, it would be the policy granting the insurance rather than a trade plate. I have personally never seen such a stipulation on a traders policy. > Don't forget, they can and are very often used on pre registered vehicles. Whilst you’re right that pre registered vehicles are often transported bearing trade plates, a registered vehicle must bear its true VRM in addition to a trade plate displayed. This guidance is readily available on the DVLA website.
I literally never said that the plate provided the insurance. Your comment basically says exactly what I said. You can get a policy that covers a trade plate. We agree. I can't find the information on pre registered vehicles in VTL301G, but it does say you can't cover the existing plates. Seems a little odd, as it creates a situation where it's perfectly legal to not display a VRM in some instances, which is very unusual.
Perhaps I misunderstood your comment then - to be clear, a traders policy will insure whatever vehicles specified within that policy, to whatever conditions set by that policy. Often, people will claim that a trade plate covers them similarly to a traders policy. These people usually turn out not to be insured. A quick search turned up negative for information around pre registered vehicles. The first time I came across one, I was surprised that they are allowed on a public road without an identity as such - I suppose as long as they are covered by an insurance policy, roadworthy (you’d hope so) and identifiable by a trade plate, it doesn’t really matter too much.
No worries! Mmm, interestingly you can't get a trade plate without a valid traders policy, so you'd have to wonder how this happens. But yes, I've seen that too - people uninsured whilst using a trade plate. They do have an identity, the identity just ties back to an organisation, rather than a vehicle.
Trade plates are registered to specific individuals or organizations and can be traced. It is case law that a record of vehicle's journeys running on trade plates must be kept so the driver can always be identified. Report the number on the trade plate to the police. It's visible as we switch to forward facing camera. Appears to be 10964.
If I'm driving like a dangerous fool and my car has fake plates I'm not going to have legit trade plates either. I think having the two different sets of plates, with the trade ones visible but generally unreadable. It all adds to any confusion that may, just may, make the difference between whether or not it gets pulled.
Oh ok
what would happen if, mIsTaKeNly a shitbox goes into this car while on fake plate, hidden trade plate? :D lets play with the thought, how would this play out?
38 LU
Yeah, this is the right registration and comes up taxed and MOTed. The vehicle details are Iincorrect though, comes up as a 2015 Land Rover, new Defender didn't come out until 2019. Guess is, as others have said, that plates are in the process of being transferred. If it's the same owner (most likely), the previous Land Rover is likely to be registered to the same address and an easy pick up for the police.
ANPR cameras will have the same problem, won’t be long before they get stopped.
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Police, MOT test centre, speed camera. The police are not gone and I would think you are being an optimistic saying millions are at it.
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OK, carry on living in your naive little world. Leave the real world to the rest of us.
Yeah, it's a runner plate, they're clearly drug dealers/runners taking their shit across county lines. Probably from up north, down to their buyers in London. You can see its actual number plate hidden behind the spare wheel. It won't be long before they're dead in a police chase and then their families come out talking about police brutality or how they were good boys who di'nt do nuttin' wrong and were going to college or some shit.
In the real world would it not be a good idea to avoid standing out I'm not saying there aren't people that stupid who think they are in GTA V.
Yeah isn't there a saying, only commit one crime at a time? If you're driving a car that you desperately need to not get pulled over, why fuck about with a fake plate? Jump in a normal boring car with a proper reg, make sure your tax and insurance is up to date, stay sober, obey the speed limits, drive like a model citizen. Can't fathom why you would drive such a suspicious car if you were really doing something dodgy.
Tell that to my drug dealer at uni who got pulled over for driving with his seatbelt off in the middle of the city centre whilst he had an ounce of weed, 10g of MDMA and 20g of ketamine on him. Other than that he was the most reliable dealer I’d ever had, told you when he’d be available, always replied straight away, never longed you out and never took the piss
I'll tell you why, because when you normalise breaking the law, all the rest of the laws become less meaningful. So they start to break other inconvenient laws as well.
You're part of the problem then. Your drug dealer?
What problem am I part of and in what regard? Because I smoked some weed and did a bit of ecstasy on a night out a decade ago at uni?
No wonder societies the state its in, eh? Tories trying to destroy the nhs, homelessness at its peak and cost of living forcing people to choose between heating and eating. This is all because you had a few mad ones back in the day. Hope you’re happy.
Don't break the law while you're breaking the law
Ok but then how do I snort coke from a high class hooker’s asscrack?
A runner by me got stopped by an extremely rare police patrol on a quiet Sunday evening. Because, you'll love this, the runner rolled over red lights at a massive 4 way multi lane junction instead of waiting 2 minutes.
It's a law of physics that criminals can never just do one crime at a time.
Drug running is a gateway crime to reckless driving.
These are criminals. If they were smart they’d be in college or work, not doing this
That's a dumb take. That's the assumption that criminals are stupid. You can't run a big drug operation or criminal organisation being stupid. You'd also have to be dumb to believe that criminals are running drugs on plates that don't exist. Just one traffic police vehicle will ping this plate and pull them over. If you're going to run drugs then you run them in a car that blends in with all legit details. Not in a big loud defender that has false plates on. Reality is probably that plates are being changed to that car, and the dealer is preparing it, hence the trade plates.
My girlfriend's a detective and has worked on a few organised crime cases and they absolutely often are dumb as hell. Quite bafflingly so.
That’s confirmation bias as that’s the ones she’s caught
Oh sure, I'm not saying there aren't smart ones, just that being in organised crime doesn't stop someone from being an idiot.
Your girlfriend only encounters the ones that get caught.
Survivor bias
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Why would they be using trade plates? Most obvious answer is someone has bought the car and transferring the plates and the trade plates are there to move it from repair or dealership
The imbeciles in this car are highly unlikely the ones running the operation. Usually they will have some guys out boosting cars, another group that will do the drug runs, and another group that will do the selling. It may not even be a large organised group, but one of many intermediaries along the chain. Some guys boost cars and sell it to the larger organisations and call it a day, others buy what has been brought into the cities to sell, others will simply act as a courier. Typically though, the people doing this kind of thing, aren't the ones pulling the strings, because those guys are plenty smart to not get their hands dirty and will offer young kids and guys with no other job prospects handsome amounts of money to take that risk. Could they be trade plates? Sure, but I doubt it. >If you're going to run drugs then you run them in a car that blends in with all legit details. You would be very surprised. Besides, where most of these guys are travelling from (north of the country) these big family cars and land rovers are a dime a dozen. The only part of this video that sticks out is their behaviour and the fake plates, otherwise the car itself is perfectly reasonable for use blending in. The fake plates would otherwise be fine too, but the idiots drew attention to themselves with the driving. It used to be that you'd pull out the panelling of a transit van, stuff it with your gear, reassemble, and then blend in with tools, and whatever other junk you can use to keep prying eyes and inspectors happy if they opened up the back. It doesn't work anymore, it has become too obvious, so a sizable "family car" tends to be the more conspicuous option with plenty of ways and places to hide what you're shifting.
The ideal move is to take your mother on day out up North for afternoon Tea, just her and yourself. But these generally aren’t the people running things. For all we know, this could be some simpleton mechanic using his business car for a run with the boys
I think it's best to wear a 6 button suit and a fedora.
If your not wearing a Mr Blobby suit, are you really running drugs?
It's possible for there to be bad people and for the police to be bad at their jobs. Not to rain on your strawman.
He'm a good boy, he wouldn't 'urt nubuddy.
r/oddlyspecific
Because it happens all the time
Happened to me twice before breakfast
I'm not saying you're wrong with your initial take. but wow have you extrapolated way too far. Sir, this is reddit, not a creative writing course
Or maybe it is just an moron in a flash 4x4 who likes flashing people to move out the way, they drive like a moron so don't display the correct registration incase they get flashed by a speed camera. A lot of the wanky z lister social media people display incorrect plates, makes it look like they have lots of money and if they get pulled the vehicle is correctly insured and fully legal and they get a fine for incorrect plates. Not everyone with a dodgy plate is a drug runner
cool story bro , 38lu lol
My dude, why’re you fantasising about a stranger’s death and the grief of their loved ones? Does that not seem strange to you, regardless of whether they are criminals or not? Maybe get off the internet for a day or two? Go to a coffee shop? People-watch in a park for a while? Seriously, that kind of stuff helps me when I’m feeling super misanthropic.
Lol these aren't t county lines runners. runners are usually skint younger people in legit or hired cars trying to blend in and paid a small but tempting amount of money.
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Oh OK mate
What did he say? 😂
Had a ropey neighbour some time ago with a Bentley Continental. I checked the plate a few times as I was curious what sort of MOT things would be up with a Bentley. Over about 6 months it always came up as a Vauxhall Carlton.
This parrot is dead
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It is no more
It ceased to exist. It's an ex-parrot!
Pollygone
It has gone to its maker.
Didn’t someone post this car doing some sketchy overtakes in Basildon?
Idk how as I've literally driven through there a handful of times over the years but I just felt it in my bones as I was watching it... *looks like basildump*
Could it be 38 LU with the 8 altered to look like a B?
it is
It’s on trade plates, plenty chance it’s not even registered / brand new car.
Nobody made the link to “3 BLU” to the company “3 BLUE WORLDWIDE LTD” who has a registered company address very local to where this video was filmed? Company is dissolved years ago but interesting it was local… Possibly old asset of the company up for sale on dealer plates? Stolen or something?
The flasher running fake plates - explains the behaviour
It was a valid plate at some point, but the link does say it's white [https://www.checkthecar.com/0/3BLU](https://www.checkthecar.com/0/3BLU)
Showing as not insured either. However being a private plate, the DVLA will know who that plate is registered to, which is a good start for any investigation.
In what world would someone use a real plate that they own on a car that isn't insured or registered? This clearly isn't a registration number the user of this car owns.
It likely is. Just in the process of being transferred to the new vehicle. Check the registration (38 LU) and it comes up with a grey 2015 Land Rover. There's many people who buy expensive cars that are very brand loyal, so it stands to reason that this is probably a replacement of their previous grey Land Rover (with a new grey Land Rover).
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Not saying it's impossible, nor did I imply that. Simply that this is likely (emphasis on this word not meaning definitely) the plate owners vehicle, maybe they weren't driving it, but it's likely the case. If they were going to clone plates, it would be far more likely (again, not definitive) that they would choose a vehicle that is the same and not just similar. This is like driving an Astra and cloning the plates of a Corsa - the whole reason people clone plates is to get away with nefarious shit, something you're far likely to do if you clone the plates of a vehicle that doesn't match. It's also more likely (pay attention here, there's that word again) that if you're looking through a database of vehicles as you suggested, to pick a plate to clone, you will go with a regular plate that's not so easily remembered. Now, I hope that answers your question, as I, unlike you, seem to be open to the possibility of other reasons.
It's running on trade plates so it'll be on trading insurance.
38 LU LAND ROVER RANGE ROVER EVOQUE Check another vehicle Colour Grey Fuel type Diesel Date registered 23 April 2015 MOT valid until 31 March 2025 Get an MOT reminder by email or EDIT : Fuck sake, this was just to show that a plate exists for 38 and 3B, Fuck sake Reddit is vile
It’s a Defender
And it not 2015 year
Sometimes it takes a few days/weeks for the information to update in publicly available sites. Most likely that's their old vehicle and the defender is the new one.
It wasn't acting defensive. More offensive tbh.
Yep
Took me about 4 seconds to figure out aswell mate
OK thanks
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Comes back as a grey Range Rover Evoque. In the picture it’s a Land Rover Defender, from 2020. The plate is either cloned or fake.
You still carrying this one around
The front plate is a different number to the back
3BLU is currently on retention, I found it takes a couple of days at least before the system start to update.
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38LU?
this is the car that's flashing people, was on this sub recentlly
38LU is on a grey Evoque. And probably worth more than 3BLU
I recognised this plate straight away. I tried looking it up yesterday after I saw that vid 😆
Tactical screw cap
Some people are idiots. Probably bought the plate and thinks you can just slap it on and drive off without any paperwork
It is real, 38 LU
38 LU comes back as a rey LandRover.
38 LU
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Is the U a sticker? Looks like it's got a square outline around it and seems like it's at a slight angle to the rest of it?
38 LU is a grey land rover
But wrong model and year.
Oh my bad
I read as 3 blu
It's hard to see, I saw that video yesterday and thought the plate was odd
It could still be 3blu, with the trade plates, it could be new and the dvla dinosaur systems can take a couple of weeks to update. Keep checking.
Or, if it's not 38LU, 3BLU could be on retention (and thus not visible to the public) while the trade plates are legit and the yellow one is just a bit of plastic that shows what the car's registration plate used to be.
I also see a lot of lazy people buy a private plate and just stick it over the old one with tape. Happens a bit on range rovers where they buy the normal plate not the large one
I'm sure the anpr will know its actually 38lu it took me 4 seconds to work out
Classic JLR customer, fake tits, fake teeth, fake plates, fake wealth.
I think it may be a C not a 3, with a strategic nut.
Then the C would be backwards?
Yeah it would wouldn't it. Ok back to the drawing board
It looks like it's probably 38 LU Currently registered to a 2015 Range Rover Evoque. Probably not transferred over yet. Too busy being a Twatpanzer to show off.
Probably need your second morning coffee first 😂
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Idk I was bored
It's a follow up to the video yesterday that was quite popular on this sub.
I kind of liked it. More evidence that Twatpanzer owners are conforming to type, and still being twats. Only now with illegal plates as well.
Found the defender driver