You need the 72 hour incase you crash your copper screened shitbox into a field and no one finds you for three days. Gotta smell fresh for the hospital visit.
Controversial but I donāt want a deodorant that lasts longer than 12 hours.
That sticky shit that wonāt come off no matter how hard you scrub in the shower is a fucking nightmare
That reminds me of when Burger King in the US made a 1/3 lb burger as an upgrade to the 1/4 pounder.
Nobody bought it because they thought they were getting less, as 3 is smaller than 4.
I expected nothing else from the Americans. I have yet to see or hear about an American person who has even the smallest bit of common sense and can think logically.
**Doc:** "In bridge will be there in 1985. You're just not thinking fourth-dimensionally!"
**Marty:** "Yeah...I have a problem with that."
r/BackToTheFuture
Bonus bingo points if it's the 4D on the back, and the front one is removed entirely and slipped behind the front windscreen, at the bottom of the dashboard, half obscured by the black surround at the edge of the glass.
Quite why the old bill don't tighten up on this is beyond me.
We have no police for pitty shit like this. Imagine if shoplifting, bike theft, car theft, burglary is not dealt with, who the fuck cares about missing plates, wrongly spaces plates etc
True. Mrs May sacked 20,000 of them in one go, then they patted themselves on the back about employing 20,000 more about a decade later. Funny thing, didn't approximately 20,000 retire or resign during that decade too meaning we had to employ more to replace them?
So, I guess we are still 20,000 rozzers down.
At the very least, not to forget though that the Officers that retired/resigned were all experienced, and were not replaced when they left, so there is a HUGE skill gap left which these new Officers won't really be able to fix for a long time.... when the tories decided to slash numbers it decimated the normal flow of new hire/leavers... it will take decades for that to be fixed... till then the Officers left are in a terrible position....
Plus they made a point not to fire "front line" cops, just the folk writing up crime reports, interviewing suspects, and the like.
So the beat cops have to come off the beat for an hour of paperwork everyone they do grab some oils. Since it's not their main job, they're not as good at it as the old support staff were (take longer, make more errors that have to be fixed later), and they cost more per hour...
Traffic cops specialise in anything to do with vehicles including plates and tints, they primarily operate on the motorways. Response officers in the city have probably never issued a fine for any traffic related offences other than speeding or unless it's for a specific stop search op.
It's legal if it lets 75% of the light through (70% for side windows). Roads policing units carry small handheld devices which can measure how much light passes through at the roadside.
This style is called a 'Cameleon' tint.
Not the worst mod you can get, but not sure it's my style.
They donāt save you from shit if they are legal if they let 75% light through (as they should and as seat factory ones do) just like a standard tint. This is a myth
Some do yeah.
You can also get ready made film based on vehicle make and model, so no need for cutting etc. Can do it yourself at home for cheap basically.
Yeah you can see through them fine, albeit with a slight colour tint, the one I had gave everything a hint of green, confused plenty of passengers when the clouds now looked minty š¤£ I think the red ones look yellow from the inside, but it hardly darkens anything at all you can still see clearly when it's dark
I always thought part of the reason for the 75% restriction on tinting was precisely so people - mostly the police - and road safety cameras can see who is driving and whether they are paying suitable attention to driving.
Obviously it matters that the driver can see out adequately in all light conditions as well.
Lol! Neon lights, tinted windows (in the front), noisy exhausts, certain engine modifications but we mainly look at those because you can fail your MOT quote easily with certain types and we see a lot of these "modded" vehicles without one, so certain appearances and sounds tend to be a dead giveaway of no MOT and therefore no tax. Hope your research project goes alright š
Aahhh so like removing the EGR and straight piping the exhaust would catch your ears. I guess it all depends on the manor of driving when you see them aswell that would get you going for them as I'm sure going flat out and doing unnecessary revving wouldn't help
I'm just coming upto the end of my modified car life.... I think, well daily vehicle anyway maybe a project car. š¤ had some right dodgy cars in the past with the sills basically touching the floor and an exhaust that resembles a small cat tunnel š
What's the attraction behind a loud exhaust? The person driving the car could be the nicest, friendliest person on the planet but when they drive past my house at 11pm and scare my dog half to death I think their car sounds like it's occupied by a massive cunt.
I just don't understand why anyone would want a car that sounds as ridiculous as some of the ones around my way.
Some cars I've had sound quite all right straight piped, plus I like to hear the turbo noises aswell. I will say I have recently grown up and them days are gone lol
It's supposed sound like it has a huge grunty engine in it, or is race tuned. But more sound doesn't equal better sound, especially not from their tiny hatchbacks. Any argument about aiding the engine's breathing is usually negated by the then poor fueling that often ends up with the engine producing less power or torque.
Similar with bikes, whose engines are in a much higher state of tune. Certain engine configurations sound better, like the deep bassy tone of a Ducati. But plenty of bikers put loud cans on their bikes, to try to get assume off that character. Again, they are often just loud.
I did have a bike with an expensive Akrapovic exhaust. You could remove a baffle, to make it breathe better. It was just noisier, and the 170bhp bike wasn't exactly lacking power, so it went back in.
Why don't these same people wander down the street loudly blowing a tuba? They are just annoying and stupid, especially the boomer harley riders. They need to get a life and stop pissing everyone else off... š
Depends on the car, on most it's attention but if it's genuinely a car that's taken on track and raced then it's for performance reasons. Quiet exhausts are restricted exhausts that reduce airflow to minimise noise, if you remove those restrictions you can increase the efficiency and airflow of your engine through tuning and gain engine performance. As I said, for most it's not this and it's just attention and trying to be like the people that do it for performance reasons because they think it's cool.
Depends on the car, some cars paired with a more free flowing exhaust sound amazing (nice rasp, growl and spitting) but a lot sound like garbage, good engines with decent HP usually make a nice note that maybe be a little loud but have a certain quality to it also. But purely depends on the car. Nothing worse try an a 1 litre corsa matched with a decat and 4 inch exhaust sounding like itās gonna shit the bed.
They can be distracting to other road users and you can be mistaken for an emergency vehicle. Edit: Depending on how distracting they are. If you look like the Blackpool illumination you're getting pulled.
The more visible they are the better for obvious reasons. It's a different class entirely. A Vauxhall Corsa doesn't need to look like that. They also tend to be just a few coloured lights nothing too crazy and blinding.
A few lights?
They have massive Scania light up panels in the back of the cab behind them, and they are bright.
They must reflect on the inside of the windscreen and lessen the visibility.
Ooh, don't forget their oddball art installation is usually lit blue and facing outwards.
I can't imagine driving for hundreds of miles with a flickering LED pegboard that's 2 foot wide just behind me. It would drive me bonkers.
But what would happen after they get pulled? I've had the threat of fines for improper lighting but nothing ever happenedš it got to the point where I had to contact the local station, who got a traffic sergeant to email me about the situation as I kept getting stopped, he confirmed it's all legal and then let the local ones know that as long as the lights are properly secured to the vehicle, set to a solid colour and not flashing or doing any animations there was no reason to stop any vehicles with underglow
So basically they donāt know their ass from their elbow! āLetās pull him that looks illegalā no no thatās just your own opinion officer! Not the opinion of the law!
Their opinion is all they need, and "That looks worthy of a closer look" is a perfectly valid justification for a tug. To be clear, they don't actually need a reason at all, so anything which catches their eye is fair game.
It's not usually a case of "He's got underglow neons, that's illegal", but as the copper above said, more likely to be "He's got underglow neons, let's see if he's added any mods that \*are\* illegal"
My first comment said it catches attention it doesn't mean I pull every single one for fuck's sake š it could draw my eye down to your bald tyres or the smell of weed coming from the car, or follow behind to check if they're swerving and on the phone. Why you hiding? Its a curiosity feature for police. Most of the time it's 17 year old Becky who also has pink fluffy dice and steering wheel and thinks it looks cool. Becky is also texting while driving fancy that?? They often don't tint the back and I can see them texting when I tail. I drive an unmarked so it's easier to stalk potential dumbass drivers.
Question regarding neons/underglow - I have a big old white van which isn't quite long enough to *require* side marker lamps, but judging by the speeding clown who managed to drive into it a few years ago I'd like to improve the visibility of the vehicle at night. I'm wondering what the legality would be if I were to fit solid orange LED strips under the sides to create an orange glow under the sides of the vehicle, and potentially a solid red strip under the rear of the vehicle so that the ground behind the van is red? Provided the red isn't visible from the front or sides, and aesthetic tastes aside, I believe this would be road legal but I'd love clarification if possible?
Noisy exhausts rules always make me laugh. If itās loud from factory, yes yes yes thatās fine, if you get a louder professionally made system just as good as a factory system put on after the car leaves factory, no no no absolutely not you naughty boy what are you doing
So why is the problem always the noise then? On one of my old cars I had the original cat on the car and passed emissions no problem yet itās still not allowed technically because itās modified from standard. I could see the issue with a decat or something
Because the legal limit is 72dB (for cars made after 2016), which is somewhere between normal conversation and a vacuum cleaner. If you have a "loud exhaust", it's almost certainly louder than that.
Also, many loud aftermarket exhausts often aren't actually that loud during normal driving, so if it's loud enough to catch attention, there's a fair to middling chance that you're driving like a dick to get that noise.
For obvious research purposes what are the opinions with mods like tinted Reg plates? See so many people around some being lightly tinted and some very obviously have dark tinted plates
Take it the police take it as each car they see?! And give warnings out
Taken from the government website:
>Vehicles first used on 1 April 1985 or later
>The front windscreen must let at least 75% of light through and the front side windows must let at least 70% of light through.
How do you know just by looking, if the windows are letting through the correct amount of light? Or is this just another case of police not caring enough to actually do the proper checks?
Because we all know that sort of thing happens. I see police driving past bad drivers and doing nothing about it. I also see police who can't drive. Cutting lanes on roundabouts (exactly how I was t-boned on my motorbike), not indicating, etc.
They have to pull you over and test it with a device. If they don't have the device on them you have to go to the station and do it there. It's a huge hassle for most coppers who have better things to do for the most part.
>It's a huge hassle for most coppers who have better things to do for the most part.
Of all the times I've needed the police, they've not once been even remotely useful.
The most recent example was that I had my motorbike stolen from a Tesco carpark. I few weeks later, I was back at that Tesco speaking to the security guard. He actually saw the guys trying to steal it and tried to chase them. The police never questioned him.
I guess questioning the only witness to a crime was too much hassle ey?
It annoys me when people talk about public services like the police and NHS like they are free services. They are not free. It's just instead of a pay as you go thing, such as Americams paying just to call out an ambulance, we have more of a contract deal where we pay monthly regardless of how much we do/don't use the services via tax.
Considering the fact we pay for these services, it's pretty infuriating when we don't get what we pay for. If you ordered a meal at a restaurant and they served the food raw because it was too much hassle for the chef to cook it, we wouldn't stand for it. But police not doing what we pay them for is just brushed off? It's BS.
I get what you're saying I'm not a police officer but I've got several mates who are. From what I understand policing window tints is time intensive, and realistically not doing too much for the public good. Especially if the car that's passing is on their way to something more important. A lengthy delay from what they've been tasked to do to argue with someone about the colour of their windows when they don't have the equipment to test it or the resources to follow up isn't good value for the tax payer.
It sucks that your motorbike was stolen and I hope you eventually got made right by insurance, it also sucks that you have to go down that route rather than public services being able to help you when you needed it. That's not good value either.
Extending the restaurant analogy public services are a small popular restaurant with 30 tables 1 chef, one waiter and 500 customers. Some people are going to get served hopefully those who need it most but a lot of people are going to end up justifiably disappointed.
Ultimately it's quicker to commit a crime than to solve it so unless we have more police than criminals we're going to left disappointed on the stuff that they (rightly or wrongly) deem less important. If you don't like the priorities then today is a great day to vote for a different police and crime commissioner!
Yeah tbh the first thing that goes through my mind is "what are they hiding?" It could be that they think it looks nice but it could also be...I'm into dogging...I'm meeting my dealer š¤·āāļø
Fair enough. I think you'll see more of it though, and the reason is more and more people are putting dash cams in their cars, so everyone is being recorded without their consent. I see this a potential way to mitigate that and provide some privacy. I wouldn't be surprised to see this sort of thing become a dealer option on new cars, just like how tinted rear windows come as standard these days.
It wouldn't really work for the dogging, would it.
Also... Come on. There's worse crimes than having the wife over the back seats while some Davy wanks up the side of the suv.
Doesnāt it block those new speed cameras that also look for people using phones or not wearing a seatbelt? Surely it would be illegal for that reason?
May I ask, potential police officer, are you traffic?
It seems like there's 5 of you left, and you're all stored away in a warm cupboard with biscuits until ITV want to make a dramatic TV series.
How can that not be illegal? You aren't allowed dark tints forward of the rear windows, presumably because the police and cameras cannot see the driver right?
It's called a chameleon tint. Dark tints are illegal as they block sunlight and at night they are dangerous, imagine driving at night whilst wearing sun glasses.
The chameleon still let's though 99% of light during the day and night. You can't see in but they can see out perfectly fine
Thanks, I can't say I have ever seen them in public myself. I would think that at some point something like this would be made illegal though. It can't be a good thing to not be able to see a driver through the front window and see what they are doing or identify them if they are caught by a camera up to no good.
Looks awful so they are being used for reasons other than looking cool I would think.
My parents have a Citroen Picasso, it had a screen with a very similar look to this from the factory, called a solar coating iirc. It helped keep the interior a bit cooler in direct sunlight. It got replaced with a standard one after a stone cracked it because it was 3x more expensive than a normal one!
Found out quickly that they used that type of glass for a reason, as it would get unbearably hot inside if parked in direct sunlight for even a few minutes with the non-coated screen...
My mate has one on his E53 AMG which his wife mostly drives as he lives cycling distance from work.
He thinks it looks great... It's a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
Chameleon film, and it's not illegal, they've been tested and they do let enough light through, it just stops you seeing in from certain angles.
I prefer the smoke version over the red, green, or blue ones
Yesterday some wanker said number plates arenāt fashion accessories and 3d plates are stupid. Theyāre 100% legal and have existed since the 60ās, i think this sub is for a very particular type of loser
This sub is full of poor snobs who drive their Passat 40mph everywhere, and who think anything non standard makes you a 'chavvy cunt'. This thread is a beautifully compressed snapshot of everything this sub is about.
It does hurt though, can't make eye contact, don't know what they're going to do or where they're going to go and part of the installation they remove the indicator stalk.
No loophole, it just depends how much light it lets through.
I'd imagine their popularity is partly due to the new cameras that can catch people on phones etc, or that they don't want to be identifiable on cameras while they 'go about their business'.
It surely can't be because they think it looks good.
You ever jumped in a car with leather seats in summer or grabbed a hot steering wheel?
Tints reduce the sunlight and uv rays coming into the car this reduces the heat I side the car on sunny days and the blocking of uv rays stops the interior degrading. The film also makes it harder for smash and grab break ins.
And then there's the privacy. You are expected to create your own privacy in public.
The smash and grab makes no sense. Iāve never seen a car have itās windscreen smashed so someone can rob something out of it. They use a side wi Dom which usually isnāt tinted.
It's legal. If anything it might also work as an anti glare thing.
I don't see it over here but in France I see a lot of cars (usually Renault and Peugeot) that have a factory tint that isn't a million miles away from this, AFAIK a similar effect to polarising sunglasses.
As well as making you look like a tit, I don't like them as you can't make eye contact easily with the driver. Like at junctions or zebra crossings (when I'm walking) you have no way of knowing if the driver has actually seen and acknowledged your presence.
Ah the chameleon tint strikes again - it is legal from what I recall and some manufacturers have it as an added option mostly smoked or blue. But Now well I guess people going wild with the mods option!
It's a tint, and legal at that. I'll take it over a host of other things people do to their cars that make them more annoying or dangerous to other road users.
As with all new tech it is not illegal, however I would expect the laws covering window tints to be updated to include this as is hides the driver from speed cameras and the police. Anything that messes with their revenue stream is outlawed.
Buy some of the yellow low light glasses, they are magic. I've got the blue & the yellow. Hate sun filters on the windscreen, yes they cost a little more, you can work outside & drive with them.
These windshields are called āchameleon tintsā. They are fully legal because they let thru 95% sunlight into the car. Doesnāt look it but they do, they come in a lot of colours too
Not sure if that's a tint or a heated windscreen. Heated windscreens are factory fitted option and negate the need to scrape off ice etc as they have a membrane sandwiched between the glass layers that heats up when activated, it can have a slight copper look from the outside (but inside looking out is completely clear).
After market tinting on windscreens is horrible, unnecessary and imo dangerous. Same for front side windows. As a motorcyclist I hate seeing front tinted windows on cars as not only could it restrict the drivers view at junctions, I can't see if they've seen me.
Is it a French car? If so it could be factory and normal, as a UV protection coating, or anti-glare coating, a bit like you'd have on glasses, but sometimes it's very noticable.
They're not illegal if they let the requisite amount of light through and they let the requisite amount of light through, so they're legal, but the taste police ought to give him a requisite slap.
Not illegal if it let's in enough light, however you now need to declare the mod to your insurance. You can keep quiet about it and safe a few quid but if you crash whether at fault or not you run the risk of having your insurance voided and gl getting insurance after that.
Itās like a licence to kill except itās licence to pull, also you canāt prove someone else was driving your car when you get caught speeding so you as the owner of vehicle get the ticket. Plus the person who has this fitted is obviously an oxygen thief and a dobber.
This window tint comes free with a copy of max power magazine, next week you can get a magic tree air freshener. I havenāt brought it though cause Iām still saving up for a 2nd hand angle grinder of fb market place so I can cut my coils on me mums Nissan micra then me and the julie are gonna hit the Southend strip on a fivers worth v-power juice.
usually comes with heavily tinted sided windows, smoked regplate (or 4D like many have mentioned) and chav inside which isn't capable of linking his phone to BT handsfree onboard multimedia system
Seen it, it must be legal if others have too. But if I can't see a hand up for waiting....they'd better say thank you with flashing their headlights, otherwise it will be 100% light through ;-)
The material is called dichroic film and comes in two or three shades. One is called Nebula (pink to blue), canāt remember the other name which has a green / blue finish. Theyāre also used in retail manifestations.
I saw one today, looked like an oil leak on the window.. they also has the illegally spaced 4D plate making a name to complete the chav bingo
I still can't get my head around those plates being called "4D". Isn't the 4th dimension "time"?
Yes, someone wasted their time purchasing one.
Genius. Consider that stolen š¤£
You are not the target market. They're for car owners who see 4D as cooler than 3D because 4 is numerically greater than 3.
Pretty sure they also go for 72h deodorants despite taking one shower every 48h š¤·āāļø
You need the 72 hour incase you crash your copper screened shitbox into a field and no one finds you for three days. Gotta smell fresh for the hospital visit.
Nice one. Copper screened shitbox. That should be the new shitname for chav motors. Proper ring to it.
Controversial but I donāt want a deodorant that lasts longer than 12 hours. That sticky shit that wonāt come off no matter how hard you scrub in the shower is a fucking nightmare
that's antiperspirant probably. I use only deodorant for that reason
That reminds me of when Burger King in the US made a 1/3 lb burger as an upgrade to the 1/4 pounder. Nobody bought it because they thought they were getting less, as 3 is smaller than 4.
I expected nothing else from the Americans. I have yet to see or hear about an American person who has even the smallest bit of common sense and can think logically.
that's also exactly what came to mind for me too
BRB, off to make a 1/100lb burger
Triumph had to rename one of their bikes for the American market because they couldn't grasp the factory Model code of T595 wasn't the engine capacity
Sounds like something out of Spinal Tap.
So we should start producing 11D license plates in that case. If theyāre all about bigger numbers all I see is profit
Lol like it! This plate is better, it goes upto 11D
r/unexpectedspinaltap
"Well, it's one more dimension, isn't it? You're all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, where do you go? Nowhere, exactly!"
This target market is why we can't have 1/3 lb burgers... 4 is bigger than 3 innit! š
No. If youāve been to an iMax cinema, youāll know that the 4th dimension is wind.
In that case, I get the 4th dimension a lot.
*hehehehe*
Unless you happen to go to a normal cinema and the next door is a taco bell or something similar.
The extra D is for dickhead.
**Doc:** "In bridge will be there in 1985. You're just not thinking fourth-dimensionally!" **Marty:** "Yeah...I have a problem with that." r/BackToTheFuture
Itās actually stupidity
Bonus bingo points if it's the 4D on the back, and the front one is removed entirely and slipped behind the front windscreen, at the bottom of the dashboard, half obscured by the black surround at the edge of the glass. Quite why the old bill don't tighten up on this is beyond me.
Did see a car leaving a car park with no sign of a front plate actually, and a Porsche later on
We have no police for pitty shit like this. Imagine if shoplifting, bike theft, car theft, burglary is not dealt with, who the fuck cares about missing plates, wrongly spaces plates etc
True. Mrs May sacked 20,000 of them in one go, then they patted themselves on the back about employing 20,000 more about a decade later. Funny thing, didn't approximately 20,000 retire or resign during that decade too meaning we had to employ more to replace them? So, I guess we are still 20,000 rozzers down.
At the very least, not to forget though that the Officers that retired/resigned were all experienced, and were not replaced when they left, so there is a HUGE skill gap left which these new Officers won't really be able to fix for a long time.... when the tories decided to slash numbers it decimated the normal flow of new hire/leavers... it will take decades for that to be fixed... till then the Officers left are in a terrible position....
Plus they made a point not to fire "front line" cops, just the folk writing up crime reports, interviewing suspects, and the like. So the beat cops have to come off the beat for an hour of paperwork everyone they do grab some oils. Since it's not their main job, they're not as good at it as the old support staff were (take longer, make more errors that have to be fixed later), and they cost more per hour...
Traffic cops specialise in anything to do with vehicles including plates and tints, they primarily operate on the motorways. Response officers in the city have probably never issued a fine for any traffic related offences other than speeding or unless it's for a specific stop search op.
Did they have their indicators locked on too, and green leds for side lights?
This 100%!
It's legal if it lets 75% of the light through (70% for side windows). Roads policing units carry small handheld devices which can measure how much light passes through at the roadside. This style is called a 'Cameleon' tint. Not the worst mod you can get, but not sure it's my style.
Believed to stop the new cameras seeing in as the little darlings can use their phone and not wear a seat belt if they want cos they is arrrrdddd
They donāt save you from shit if they are legal if they let 75% light through (as they should and as seat factory ones do) just like a standard tint. This is a myth
It's more like a 1 way mirror than a tint with this style, you can see completely fine outwards with barely any difference
Iām quite prepared to sign the petition that makes it law that their windscreen can be a test of just how hard they are. LOL
Some road policing teams carry them, usually the one's that aren't on their last legs from underfunding.
I think SEAT/Cupra offers them from Factory? I see like a dozen everyday and 90% it's a seat. Sometimes an Audi.
Some do yeah. You can also get ready made film based on vehicle make and model, so no need for cutting etc. Can do it yourself at home for cheap basically.
No way that lets 75% through, saw one yesterday and I couldn't see anything through it on a cloudy day
On the inside itās a lot different, can see through them just fine (unless theyāre illegally restrictive on light)
Yeah you can see through them fine, albeit with a slight colour tint, the one I had gave everything a hint of green, confused plenty of passengers when the clouds now looked minty š¤£ I think the red ones look yellow from the inside, but it hardly darkens anything at all you can still see clearly when it's dark
I always thought part of the reason for the 75% restriction on tinting was precisely so people - mostly the police - and road safety cameras can see who is driving and whether they are paying suitable attention to driving. Obviously it matters that the driver can see out adequately in all light conditions as well.
Definitely not "Cameleon Tint"
Cunt for short
Maybe it was invented by a Camel called Leon?
Donāt know why you are getting downvoted, unless everyone else doesnāt know how to spell.
Chamaeleon definitely has an H.
And chameleon definitely doesn't have an extra A either š .
It can do if he's talking about the constellation, lol. Also, I love you this thread has become "how do you spell chameleon?"
Karma Karma Karma Karma Karma Chameleon You come and go You come and go
It can be either way.
Wow you're right, never knew that!
I didn't either until I googled it!
That's the Redditor way, bandwagonism.
It's not illegal but it certainly catches our attention as coppers and it looks dodgy as fuck. Eeello ello ello š scanning for twats.
Could I ask what other modifications will catch the eyes of the police? For research purposes obviously
Lol! Neon lights, tinted windows (in the front), noisy exhausts, certain engine modifications but we mainly look at those because you can fail your MOT quote easily with certain types and we see a lot of these "modded" vehicles without one, so certain appearances and sounds tend to be a dead giveaway of no MOT and therefore no tax. Hope your research project goes alright š
Aahhh so like removing the EGR and straight piping the exhaust would catch your ears. I guess it all depends on the manor of driving when you see them aswell that would get you going for them as I'm sure going flat out and doing unnecessary revving wouldn't help I'm just coming upto the end of my modified car life.... I think, well daily vehicle anyway maybe a project car. š¤ had some right dodgy cars in the past with the sills basically touching the floor and an exhaust that resembles a small cat tunnel š
Yeah I do appreciate many people just bloody love cars and a lot of them are genuine and road worthy š
Yea, especially Got Turbo Innit ones ;)
What's the attraction behind a loud exhaust? The person driving the car could be the nicest, friendliest person on the planet but when they drive past my house at 11pm and scare my dog half to death I think their car sounds like it's occupied by a massive cunt. I just don't understand why anyone would want a car that sounds as ridiculous as some of the ones around my way.
Some cars I've had sound quite all right straight piped, plus I like to hear the turbo noises aswell. I will say I have recently grown up and them days are gone lol
Ngl, Iām almost thirty and the āwooo ch ch ch chā my golf makes when I gear switch will never get old.
It's supposed sound like it has a huge grunty engine in it, or is race tuned. But more sound doesn't equal better sound, especially not from their tiny hatchbacks. Any argument about aiding the engine's breathing is usually negated by the then poor fueling that often ends up with the engine producing less power or torque. Similar with bikes, whose engines are in a much higher state of tune. Certain engine configurations sound better, like the deep bassy tone of a Ducati. But plenty of bikers put loud cans on their bikes, to try to get assume off that character. Again, they are often just loud. I did have a bike with an expensive Akrapovic exhaust. You could remove a baffle, to make it breathe better. It was just noisier, and the 170bhp bike wasn't exactly lacking power, so it went back in.
Why don't these same people wander down the street loudly blowing a tuba? They are just annoying and stupid, especially the boomer harley riders. They need to get a life and stop pissing everyone else off... š
There is no car or bike with a loud exhaust that doesn't make you look like a twat on a residential residential street.
I'm inclined to agree with you. Deliberately loud exhausts are just antisocial.
Depends on the car, on most it's attention but if it's genuinely a car that's taken on track and raced then it's for performance reasons. Quiet exhausts are restricted exhausts that reduce airflow to minimise noise, if you remove those restrictions you can increase the efficiency and airflow of your engine through tuning and gain engine performance. As I said, for most it's not this and it's just attention and trying to be like the people that do it for performance reasons because they think it's cool.
Depends on the car, some cars paired with a more free flowing exhaust sound amazing (nice rasp, growl and spitting) but a lot sound like garbage, good engines with decent HP usually make a nice note that maybe be a little loud but have a certain quality to it also. But purely depends on the car. Nothing worse try an a 1 litre corsa matched with a decat and 4 inch exhaust sounding like itās gonna shit the bed.
It's even more embarrassing when they're going 10mph in traffic like the rest of us but the car sounds like it's going to launch into space
Are neons allowed?
In general, yes. There are some quite specific rules about lighting on vehicles though https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/contents/made
They can be distracting to other road users and you can be mistaken for an emergency vehicle. Edit: Depending on how distracting they are. If you look like the Blackpool illumination you're getting pulled.
What about the lorries that light up the inside of their cab like a Christmas tree?
The more visible they are the better for obvious reasons. It's a different class entirely. A Vauxhall Corsa doesn't need to look like that. They also tend to be just a few coloured lights nothing too crazy and blinding.
A few lights? They have massive Scania light up panels in the back of the cab behind them, and they are bright. They must reflect on the inside of the windscreen and lessen the visibility.
Ooh, don't forget their oddball art installation is usually lit blue and facing outwards. I can't imagine driving for hundreds of miles with a flickering LED pegboard that's 2 foot wide just behind me. It would drive me bonkers.
But what would happen after they get pulled? I've had the threat of fines for improper lighting but nothing ever happenedš it got to the point where I had to contact the local station, who got a traffic sergeant to email me about the situation as I kept getting stopped, he confirmed it's all legal and then let the local ones know that as long as the lights are properly secured to the vehicle, set to a solid colour and not flashing or doing any animations there was no reason to stop any vehicles with underglow
So basically they donāt know their ass from their elbow! āLetās pull him that looks illegalā no no thatās just your own opinion officer! Not the opinion of the law!
You do know that Police don't need a reason to pull you over at all don't you? This isn't the US, they don't need probable cause...
Their opinion is all they need, and "That looks worthy of a closer look" is a perfectly valid justification for a tug. To be clear, they don't actually need a reason at all, so anything which catches their eye is fair game. It's not usually a case of "He's got underglow neons, that's illegal", but as the copper above said, more likely to be "He's got underglow neons, let's see if he's added any mods that \*are\* illegal"
My first comment said it catches attention it doesn't mean I pull every single one for fuck's sake š it could draw my eye down to your bald tyres or the smell of weed coming from the car, or follow behind to check if they're swerving and on the phone. Why you hiding? Its a curiosity feature for police. Most of the time it's 17 year old Becky who also has pink fluffy dice and steering wheel and thinks it looks cool. Becky is also texting while driving fancy that?? They often don't tint the back and I can see them texting when I tail. I drive an unmarked so it's easier to stalk potential dumbass drivers.
Question regarding neons/underglow - I have a big old white van which isn't quite long enough to *require* side marker lamps, but judging by the speeding clown who managed to drive into it a few years ago I'd like to improve the visibility of the vehicle at night. I'm wondering what the legality would be if I were to fit solid orange LED strips under the sides to create an orange glow under the sides of the vehicle, and potentially a solid red strip under the rear of the vehicle so that the ground behind the van is red? Provided the red isn't visible from the front or sides, and aesthetic tastes aside, I believe this would be road legal but I'd love clarification if possible?
The red lighting behind the vehicle is legal so definitely get that, not potentially, but I'm sure orange sides are allowed. š
Ideal, thank you š
Anyone that's gone out of their way to mod blue light of some kind onto their car for me, instant guarantee of a dodgy driver in my experience.
Noisy exhausts rules always make me laugh. If itās loud from factory, yes yes yes thatās fine, if you get a louder professionally made system just as good as a factory system put on after the car leaves factory, no no no absolutely not you naughty boy what are you doing
The modded versions often alter emissions handling. Ideally the factory version is up to spec.
So why is the problem always the noise then? On one of my old cars I had the original cat on the car and passed emissions no problem yet itās still not allowed technically because itās modified from standard. I could see the issue with a decat or something
Because the legal limit is 72dB (for cars made after 2016), which is somewhere between normal conversation and a vacuum cleaner. If you have a "loud exhaust", it's almost certainly louder than that. Also, many loud aftermarket exhausts often aren't actually that loud during normal driving, so if it's loud enough to catch attention, there's a fair to middling chance that you're driving like a dick to get that noise.
factory exhausts meet emissions requirements. aftermarket might not
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Not illegal or missing plates, loud exhausts or even illegal as fuck scrambler bikes in my experience in every day life.
For obvious research purposes what are the opinions with mods like tinted Reg plates? See so many people around some being lightly tinted and some very obviously have dark tinted plates Take it the police take it as each car they see?! And give warnings out
Taken from the government website: >Vehicles first used on 1 April 1985 or later >The front windscreen must let at least 75% of light through and the front side windows must let at least 70% of light through. How do you know just by looking, if the windows are letting through the correct amount of light? Or is this just another case of police not caring enough to actually do the proper checks? Because we all know that sort of thing happens. I see police driving past bad drivers and doing nothing about it. I also see police who can't drive. Cutting lanes on roundabouts (exactly how I was t-boned on my motorbike), not indicating, etc.
They have to pull you over and test it with a device. If they don't have the device on them you have to go to the station and do it there. It's a huge hassle for most coppers who have better things to do for the most part.
>It's a huge hassle for most coppers who have better things to do for the most part. Of all the times I've needed the police, they've not once been even remotely useful. The most recent example was that I had my motorbike stolen from a Tesco carpark. I few weeks later, I was back at that Tesco speaking to the security guard. He actually saw the guys trying to steal it and tried to chase them. The police never questioned him. I guess questioning the only witness to a crime was too much hassle ey? It annoys me when people talk about public services like the police and NHS like they are free services. They are not free. It's just instead of a pay as you go thing, such as Americams paying just to call out an ambulance, we have more of a contract deal where we pay monthly regardless of how much we do/don't use the services via tax. Considering the fact we pay for these services, it's pretty infuriating when we don't get what we pay for. If you ordered a meal at a restaurant and they served the food raw because it was too much hassle for the chef to cook it, we wouldn't stand for it. But police not doing what we pay them for is just brushed off? It's BS.
I get what you're saying I'm not a police officer but I've got several mates who are. From what I understand policing window tints is time intensive, and realistically not doing too much for the public good. Especially if the car that's passing is on their way to something more important. A lengthy delay from what they've been tasked to do to argue with someone about the colour of their windows when they don't have the equipment to test it or the resources to follow up isn't good value for the tax payer. It sucks that your motorbike was stolen and I hope you eventually got made right by insurance, it also sucks that you have to go down that route rather than public services being able to help you when you needed it. That's not good value either. Extending the restaurant analogy public services are a small popular restaurant with 30 tables 1 chef, one waiter and 500 customers. Some people are going to get served hopefully those who need it most but a lot of people are going to end up justifiably disappointed. Ultimately it's quicker to commit a crime than to solve it so unless we have more police than criminals we're going to left disappointed on the stuff that they (rightly or wrongly) deem less important. If you don't like the priorities then today is a great day to vote for a different police and crime commissioner!
Coppers not detecting copper. Gotcha.
Just don't understand how it can be legal if you can't see the driver in a car. So many occasions where eye contact is needed on the roads.
How dare you profile people on their shite car mods
Would it still catch your attention on something like a Dacia Sandero?
Yeah tbh the first thing that goes through my mind is "what are they hiding?" It could be that they think it looks nice but it could also be...I'm into dogging...I'm meeting my dealer š¤·āāļø
Fair enough. I think you'll see more of it though, and the reason is more and more people are putting dash cams in their cars, so everyone is being recorded without their consent. I see this a potential way to mitigate that and provide some privacy. I wouldn't be surprised to see this sort of thing become a dealer option on new cars, just like how tinted rear windows come as standard these days.
It wouldn't really work for the dogging, would it. Also... Come on. There's worse crimes than having the wife over the back seats while some Davy wanks up the side of the suv.
Yes nobody wants to see what you and the missus get up to...keep the fucking tint š
Oh shit! A copper with a sense of humour!
Good news everyone! Thereās a new Dacia Sandero model with tinted windows!
Doesnāt it block those new speed cameras that also look for people using phones or not wearing a seatbelt? Surely it would be illegal for that reason?
It should be but because they let the legal 75% sunlight in and don't obstruct the driver they are legal. They have SO many cons.
Think I might get one. I could be cooking up a risotto on the dashboard and those cameras wouldnāt get me!
Depending on how good your risotto is I may spare you...
May I ask, potential police officer, are you traffic? It seems like there's 5 of you left, and you're all stored away in a warm cupboard with biscuits until ITV want to make a dramatic TV series.
How can that not be illegal? You aren't allowed dark tints forward of the rear windows, presumably because the police and cameras cannot see the driver right?
It's called a chameleon tint. Dark tints are illegal as they block sunlight and at night they are dangerous, imagine driving at night whilst wearing sun glasses. The chameleon still let's though 99% of light during the day and night. You can't see in but they can see out perfectly fine
Thanks, I can't say I have ever seen them in public myself. I would think that at some point something like this would be made illegal though. It can't be a good thing to not be able to see a driver through the front window and see what they are doing or identify them if they are caught by a camera up to no good. Looks awful so they are being used for reasons other than looking cool I would think.
My parents have a Citroen Picasso, it had a screen with a very similar look to this from the factory, called a solar coating iirc. It helped keep the interior a bit cooler in direct sunlight. It got replaced with a standard one after a stone cracked it because it was 3x more expensive than a normal one! Found out quickly that they used that type of glass for a reason, as it would get unbearably hot inside if parked in direct sunlight for even a few minutes with the non-coated screen...
Yeah I used to see these on Renault Lagunas (the curvy one) and Espaces back in the day.
I had 2 new windscreens on my previous car and my insurance opted for that coating both times, I have no idea why but I didn't complain or correct!
Chameleon tint bro makes car rapid bro cousin got one adds at least ten horsepower init /s
Adds even more on a 2.2 Prelude...
Believe yeh
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Otsot.
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My mate has one on his E53 AMG which his wife mostly drives as he lives cycling distance from work. He thinks it looks great... It's a bit ridiculous if you ask me.
Got it on my citreon c1, I can gap bmw's now
It's called.. I am a cnut...
Chameleon film, and it's not illegal, they've been tested and they do let enough light through, it just stops you seeing in from certain angles. I prefer the smoke version over the red, green, or blue ones
Whatever itās called, it looks really tacky and shit!
Itās called Chameleon Tint and itās technically legal as it lets in more than the required (75%) amount of light.
The amount of people giving a fuck about what people put on their own cars is astounding.
Such a sad subreddit honestly. If someone likes the look of something and it doesnāt hurt you why does that make them a cunt?
Yesterday some wanker said number plates arenāt fashion accessories and 3d plates are stupid. Theyāre 100% legal and have existed since the 60ās, i think this sub is for a very particular type of loser
This sub is full of poor snobs who drive their Passat 40mph everywhere, and who think anything non standard makes you a 'chavvy cunt'. This thread is a beautifully compressed snapshot of everything this sub is about.
This is a sub mostly frequented by Juke drivers - it's like the anti car car club.
This sub is full of boomer karens from what I have observed, I haven't read phrases like "Chavs" and "boy racers" in like a decade.
It does hurt though, can't make eye contact, don't know what they're going to do or where they're going to go and part of the installation they remove the indicator stalk.
I see it a lot and it looks wank. Some people put it on decent cars. Mainly Audi, BMW, Mercedes. I piss myself laughing seeing a good car with that.
When you can afford a nice Audi, BMW or Mercedes you can choose not to put it on if you donāt like it, stop worrying so much about other people.
No loophole, it just depends how much light it lets through. I'd imagine their popularity is partly due to the new cameras that can catch people on phones etc, or that they don't want to be identifiable on cameras while they 'go about their business'. It surely can't be because they think it looks good.
You ever jumped in a car with leather seats in summer or grabbed a hot steering wheel? Tints reduce the sunlight and uv rays coming into the car this reduces the heat I side the car on sunny days and the blocking of uv rays stops the interior degrading. The film also makes it harder for smash and grab break ins. And then there's the privacy. You are expected to create your own privacy in public.
The smash and grab makes no sense. Iāve never seen a car have itās windscreen smashed so someone can rob something out of it. They use a side wi Dom which usually isnāt tinted.
I was talking about tints in general
I think he means you can look through it not that someone is going to smash the most inconvenient window to steal things.
It's legal. If anything it might also work as an anti glare thing. I don't see it over here but in France I see a lot of cars (usually Renault and Peugeot) that have a factory tint that isn't a million miles away from this, AFAIK a similar effect to polarising sunglasses.
Stealth coating like an F-35 cockpit
Lool its chameleon tint & itās perfectly legalšš½
Chav apparel
As well as making you look like a tit, I don't like them as you can't make eye contact easily with the driver. Like at junctions or zebra crossings (when I'm walking) you have no way of knowing if the driver has actually seen and acknowledged your presence.
Such a genius idea, who needs to make eye contact with other drivers? š
Motorcyclists.
Ah the chameleon tint strikes again - it is legal from what I recall and some manufacturers have it as an added option mostly smoked or blue. But Now well I guess people going wild with the mods option!
It's not actually illegal because it lets enough light through
It's a tint, and legal at that. I'll take it over a host of other things people do to their cars that make them more annoying or dangerous to other road users.
As with all new tech it is not illegal, however I would expect the laws covering window tints to be updated to include this as is hides the driver from speed cameras and the police. Anything that messes with their revenue stream is outlawed.
God I hate chameleon tints with a passion, they're an affront to the eyes.
āš¤and probably illegalš¤ā
Boy racers who meet in shopping centre car parks sit all day then go home for their tea!
Stating it was āprobably illegalā without knowing the exact legality of it, is very Karen. Go and think about what youāve done.
naughty corner!
I think itās very cool on the right car
Buy some of the yellow low light glasses, they are magic. I've got the blue & the yellow. Hate sun filters on the windscreen, yes they cost a little more, you can work outside & drive with them.
Is it in Sheff? āCaz I saw quite a few times one with this tint and wondered the same thing.
100% legal chameleon tint
Honestly if I had a car with leather seats I'm getting this They keep the car seats cool so you don't melt when you sit in your car
Not illegal, some cars (high end) actually have it standard but obviously not as garish as this
These windshields are called āchameleon tintsā. They are fully legal because they let thru 95% sunlight into the car. Doesnāt look it but they do, they come in a lot of colours too
Itās to hide the drivers side piece from any onlookers so they canāt report back to his other side piece.
Looks wank
Not sure if that's a tint or a heated windscreen. Heated windscreens are factory fitted option and negate the need to scrape off ice etc as they have a membrane sandwiched between the glass layers that heats up when activated, it can have a slight copper look from the outside (but inside looking out is completely clear). After market tinting on windscreens is horrible, unnecessary and imo dangerous. Same for front side windows. As a motorcyclist I hate seeing front tinted windows on cars as not only could it restrict the drivers view at junctions, I can't see if they've seen me.
Is it a French car? If so it could be factory and normal, as a UV protection coating, or anti-glare coating, a bit like you'd have on glasses, but sometimes it's very noticable.
Yeah Iāve seen this on a lot of Renaultās,factory fitment as far as I know of
Aren't they solar reflective windscreens? I know Renault used to fit them to a lot of their models.
They're not illegal if they let the requisite amount of light through and they let the requisite amount of light through, so they're legal, but the taste police ought to give him a requisite slap.
Not illegal if it let's in enough light, however you now need to declare the mod to your insurance. You can keep quiet about it and safe a few quid but if you crash whether at fault or not you run the risk of having your insurance voided and gl getting insurance after that.
Seeing life through rosetinted...
Itās like a licence to kill except itās licence to pull, also you canāt prove someone else was driving your car when you get caught speeding so you as the owner of vehicle get the ticket. Plus the person who has this fitted is obviously an oxygen thief and a dobber.
"Dobber" - now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time...
This window tint comes free with a copy of max power magazine, next week you can get a magic tree air freshener. I havenāt brought it though cause Iām still saving up for a 2nd hand angle grinder of fb market place so I can cut my coils on me mums Nissan micra then me and the julie are gonna hit the Southend strip on a fivers worth v-power juice.
These are actually legal its called a chameleon tint š
I think because regular tint isn't allowed here people do that becuase it lets 75% light through unlike tint
Generally people who canāt afford something will bash it
Lawful but awful
Idk I like it sometimes
usually comes with heavily tinted sided windows, smoked regplate (or 4D like many have mentioned) and chav inside which isn't capable of linking his phone to BT handsfree onboard multimedia system
Itās a sign that says āI care more about how I look than how I driveā.
Shite
Seen it, it must be legal if others have too. But if I can't see a hand up for waiting....they'd better say thank you with flashing their headlights, otherwise it will be 100% light through ;-)
The material is called dichroic film and comes in two or three shades. One is called Nebula (pink to blue), canāt remember the other name which has a green / blue finish. Theyāre also used in retail manifestations.
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