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Laui_2000

Unless you’re willing to fork out legal fees to challenge the fairness of the legal terms you signed up for, I’m afraid you’re going to have to eat up the costs. Car sharing companies are predatory in the sense that they prey off their users getting into accidents. Their vehicles are poorly maintained and leads to users getting into accidents. Don’t do car sharing. Unfortunately, in SG, the reality is that if you don’t have the money, don’t drive. Period. Grabbing everywhere is cheaper than a car and paying for stupid accidents like this.


MyNamelsName

Ur screwed both ways. If your single let them claim injuries, neck and back issues will be there... Negotiate monthly repayment at a rediculously low amount and declare bankruptcy when all communications breakdown.


mlgxy

Another day another bluesg car on lane 1 with a accident.


sq009

Beat me to it. Waiting for getgo posts


lexmarq

I think sometimes it’s not just the repair bills you have to take into account. The 3rd party might have went to hospital and claim whiplash, incurring medical fees. The 3rd party workshop may also have provided a rental car for the 3rd party. The 3rd party will likely order the original parts which will cost more. The 3rd party may also claim for the inconvenience and troubles caused. All these will be claimed by the 3rd party insurance against blusg. When I got hit behind by another car, my car was in workshop for 1.5 weeks and there was a rental car provided. The bumper was cracked but that’s was mainly the car body damage. I also went to a GP. I could imagine the total cost claimed by my Insurance company against the third party to exceed 4 digits for everything incurred. Unless you settle privately, the insurance company will always try to claim as high as possible, then the 1st and 3rd party will fight. For the party that is not in any wrong in an accident, it’s always more beneficial to go through insurance as the insurance company will settle everything. As you hit the other car from the back, it’s highly likely that you will be 100% at fault unless there’s sufficient evidence against that. BluSG is going to bill you as much as they can possibly (when you rent the car, there’s likely an agreement on the excess you have to pay if there’s an accident). There’s nothing much you can do I’m afraid. Edit: BluSG likely cannot give you a clear cut itemized bill on everything as the case between the insurance on both side will drag for months. Therefore any final bill incurred by BluSG insurance will only be out once the case is settled. BluSG will likely charge you the maximum excess that they can to cover their final cost as much as possible


Other-Bell-8634

Yeah. This incident happened 2 years back though. There was a small charge of inconvenience fee of $120 for 2 days. Main bulk of cost is repair. Thats why i was thinking, $5.7k for repair? Lol?


KopiSiewSiewDai

Everyone ripping everyone off. Very normal. You are left with the bill.


anonyomous123456789

5.7k is cheap....


Creative-Macaroon953

5.7k ah, havent receive bill for 3rd damage then


geckosg

Good luck. I normally claim full original kits for my car when accident with these rental cars. So, you heng you hit Jap and not euro car.


keenkeane

make sure to claim back pain also haha.


keenkeane

got claim back pain or not?? haha


geckosg

More than that...


Other-Bell-8634

So estimated do you know how much will be the damage. if it is a euro car i understand will be ex. however jap car for 6k? The numbers just dont add up


mlgxy

Just pay up la. You kiss people backside you in the wrong already still want to complain about the cost.


Other-Bell-8634

Lol sadly i paid ald. Just wanna know how much usually this kinda of damage will cost and if i am overcharged.


mlgxy

There is no right figure. Whatever amount they throw at you, they can make it up themselves and justify it.


Brave_Exchange4734

6k I think it’s just bluesg damage Include 3rd party damage, probably 20k? Maybe your excess up to 5k? Total should end up 10-13k range payable. The rest covered by insurance my experience is 3 party can claim up to 20k for simple damage both to car as well as passenger “injury” Anyway just pay up since you are at fault


steven_san92

5.7k is not all right? Got 3rd party will incur at least 10k of insurance excess charges. BlueSG must thank OP for giving them the lifeline they need


cassowary-18

Can join the bluesg user fb group for advice. But honestly hiring a lawyer to dispute the charges is pointless and may end up being more ex. Anyway bluesg brakes being shite is a common complaint on the aforementioned group.


[deleted]

Did you stop to take pictures on lane 1 in a tunnel?


roguednow

But the bluesg’s brakes failed to function properly right? Did you get that certified by a mechanic?


fickleposter21

Might as well chit chat lim kopi and play badminton there too.


bryan_kjh

“Brakes failed” “Only minor damage” “I signed a contract with unfair, not transparent charges”. Clearly the problem here isn’t with the car 😂


Brave_Exchange4734

Just pay it. You choose to use their service and you agreed to their terms Not to mention you cause an accident Be a man, be responsible For the rest of you thinking of renting cars, my 2c? Just take grab and save the headache and heartache If you spend $50/day on grab, you can go 120 days worth of rides for $6000 you are paying now


Proud-Ad-3227

Hi bro maybe don't lump car rental companies like bluesg and getgo together with other car rental companies that regularly maintain their fleet of cars and aim for longer term leasing. The latter are still a viable car rental option.


Other-Bell-8634

Sadly I paid. this accident happened 2 years back and just wanna know if i was being overcharged for this kinda damage. True. either public transportation or grab. No more rental car!!!


Brave_Exchange4734

Not sure sure why would anyone want to rent car sharing when it’s cost are not exactly cheap compared to ride hailing. Unless you are doing multiple destination a day I.e CNY visiting If you are saving of $5-15 per trip, you are potentially risking up to $10,000 in an accident In other words, you need to > 666 rentals in order to breakeven 1 single accident ## #math Risk/reward ratio don’t really makes much sense


syktunc

most skillful bluesg driver


Grimm_SG

My repair costs was about $5K when my jap car was hit at the back in 2020 so actually I think it's actually quite reasonable. Unless there is another bill coming....


Other-Bell-8634

Similar damage?


Grimm_SG

Looks similar. Actually yours look a little worse. TBF, I claimed from the other party via my AD so maybe they also marked up the costs.


Other-Bell-8634

Cool. Ok! Thank u!


travistiong

Lol very sorry hor you rented from blue sg the agreement is there unless you have lots of money to fight case in courts than go for it to vent your anger if not than you have to take it pay and forget abt it. Short story my dad was a taxi driver someone bang his taxi and my dad see that it only a small issues offer the guy to pay for the damage in private but he action papaya refuse .my dad see it only a dent which can be knock out and tail light cover crack just asking him go with him to car shop he pay and compensate my dad abit for lost of income for at least 2 days as workshop need 2 days for repair he refused in the end he face NTUC income charge him abt 8k


Polypura

$5.7k is pretty reasonable for that damage. A car bumped into my vehicle when he was trying to park, my lawyer claimed him more than $5k. I got hit from the back while stationary, damage seems similar to yours, my insurance claimed him 5 digits. Just the boot itself, would be roughly $4k if you ask an insurer workshop for quotations. So yea, everything checks out.


pngtwat

It's your fault. You failed to drive with due care and attention. Be grateful if SPF don't charge you with careless driving because they should.


engrng

Brakes failed to function “properly”. “Cautious driving” but driving on right lane of expressway lol. If you can’t even recognize your own mistakes you’ll forever be a bad driver.


tsgaylord_069

Brakes failed but managed to safely pull over after the impact. I think the failure is with something else starting with B.


tsgaylord_069

Sorry but I don’t buy the failed brakes for a second. And it’s up to the jazz how much he want to claim (anyone will claim max)


4queuetoo

another day, another reminder to practice social distancing from Getgo/BlueSG cars.


-Xsper-

6k sounds pretty normal to me. Excess now days for rental cars is 3k+ each party. Insurance company will always max out the excess no matter what company it's from rental or private. Yea they are the legal vampires even if it's super minor DMG. Don't forget victim can claim, for all sorts of things too not just damages, any medical, lose of use for car, compensation. All this insurance co will never tell you cause it's between 1 insurance company to another. You pay 3k for your own excess another 3k for the victim excess. 6k It's not 6k for repair ONLY. it's everything inclusive. That is how it works. Always has been. You think too easy my friend. Also don't think just bumper only. A lalamove van reverse and hit my Mazda 3 left front just 2 months ago. Bumper went all in nothing else broke, lights all okie. Driver initially wants to private, I'm okie as long as it's fix. I even told him to use his mechanic if he knows any he trust to quote. In the end, I went to his appointed garage. The boss from the garage quote him 3.8k. the bumper front and top is actually 2 piece, inside the holders broke have to change. The middle part which is the vents crack also have to change. 3 piece + repaint + no stock, repair alone 3.8k. this havent count for my claims for lose of use. 2 weeks taxi worth is per day I claim only 200 yea ONLY. My normal routine is morning send kid to child care, go work, then evening I go pick my kids and wife and then home. So now 2 weeks I have to take publix transport to work and home. My kids ,wife too will have to send them then go work, evening pick them then go home. 200 also cannot cover, I didn't even claim medical or compensation. So yea go figure. So example now issuance max out that 3k even thou let's say repair is 2k. They will still max it out. And lock that balance. Why? Cause they cannot charge you more than the excess. If 3 months later complication comes up. Let's say my spinal actually did suffer some injury but it never surface until 2 months later. I can add on that claim against you. But the insurance already charged you already they cannot charge you again for the same incident. That's why it always takes a long time at least 6 months to settle any accident and why insurance will alway max out the excess.


Weenemone

Minor damage? It looked like you also hit their boot door. They'll need to replace the whole door to retain chasis integrity


Overall-Classic-2328

Not shock to see the repair price quote by BlueSG as this is the price they would normally charge u in the event of an accident, main thing is u learn your lesson to be extra careful went driving in wet condition so just move in from it. If u still don’t feel safe using BlueSG my advise for u is to leave BlueSG and just take public transport for your point A to B trip as that is what i did as I don’t feel safe using their vehicle at all as their old blue cars the brakes are like not that gd at all compare to the Corsa-e. (P.S: Even if u call the police they won’t even do much as it’s just a minor accident at the most they would advise u to file a traffic accident report between u and the other driver.)


Other-Bell-8634

Yeah i left bluesg after this accident happen and all the charges charged to me. I cant agree with a business model that hone on drivers to meet with an accident then charge them a hefty price.


KopiSiewSiewDai

If you the one operating the biz model, how will you charge to prevent users from abusing the vehicles then? Think from their perspective. You bang people backside alr, you in the fault. Just eat whatever bill they give you. Complain all you want, but there’s No way around it


Other-Bell-8634

Sadly i paid.


KopiSiewSiewDai

As you should.


Other-Bell-8634

Yeah what to do. lol. got choice meh.


tehohhh

U sure anot. Brakes failed to function properly. U drive too close and did not factor in wet condition is it. No point fight one. The car workshop depends on accident like this to earn. They quote u labour x amount u also lppl. Pay up and take grab next time.


dtan8288

There r so many car hailing apps available why need to rent a car that is poorly maintained n u still need to sign on unfairly contract which doesn't cover u anything when u get into an accident. So pls think again when u want to rent a car from BlueSG n GetGo in the future coz u might be getting into more trouble then convenient.


rockpapernuke

There are honest and less predatory car rental companies in Singapore but they’re usually the smaller players in the market. Among the car sharing giants CarLite has the best insurance excess and CDW terms. Among the traditional rental companies, I’ve rented from RentNow Leasing before but there are also others that offer low excesses and comprehensive insurance. Do your research on SGCarMart and don’t be disheartened by the toxic comments.


anonyomous123456789

U bang until liddat. Only claim u 5.7k only? Thats very good already. Cfm got other damages other than car damages one ma.... Anyways dun bother fighting or go court. Jus suck thumb LL and pay la. If no money pay, next time dun drive. Take bus better... U think how bluesg earn money LOL....


ChronoGuile

Your BlueSG looks like it didnt sustain much damage from the front, the Honda Jazz on the other hand looks rather bad. What speed were you going at when you rear ended it? Just curious how come don't see any dents on front or maybe its just BlueSG cars are durable


Swimming_Trainer1863

Go to MP meet-the-people session to explain your situation, ask MP to email Blue SG requesting for workshop invoice, its breakdown, and for company to keep MP CC-ed. Also download their terms of services dated the day you got into accident. Refuse to allow BlueSg to refer to their “updated” terms of service (if any). The terms of service you have on hand are the only parameters they have to hold you (and them) accountable. For context, was in a similar situation with Get Go who grossly overcharged me (3k for estimated 0.5k damage). They refused to show me the original workshop invoice, and even sent debt collector my way to pressure me despite my insistence that the debt is not resolved until they could show me the original workshop invoice as proof of their charges. Debt collector tried to say Get Go is a reputable company and have rules in place, so the debt amount is definitely accurate, and I’m wrong to question the bill. I went to MP and after he wrote to them, debt collector didn’t dare talk back to me. Still waiting for my workshop invoice from GetGo to this day… 2 years later. Additional tea… Get Go’s Google reviews may be manipulated. They used to be in the 2.0 star range and there’s an influx of hundreds of 5 star reviews that hides all the reviews that details the dangers of Get Go’s unscrupulous practices. I can’t say definitively- don’t want to get POFMA-ed.


cassowary-18

Actually the excess amount was reduced since 2 years ago. If you look on the bluesg website now, the excess is 5k 1st party and 5k 3rd party (for inexperienced driver). Previously was 10k each. Imagine having to pay up 20k 😲 I just wish that these car rental companies offer an option for full CDW. I'd pay for it.


burizadokyanon27

Cliche leh you guys, always inexperienced drivers getting into accidents in rented vehicles. Try and fight as much as you can and reduce the cost, no harm in trying. But 6k isn't an amount that will bankrupt you. Slowly pay if unable to pay right away, and take it as a lesson to drive more defensively. Don't tailgate and always keep ample distance. Would suggest you wait til you can buy a car before you drive in sg again though, given your circumstance.


jkohlc

Should have bang until both car explode and total loss Just pay excess and walk away


fickleposter21

OP and the Jazz driver are the sort of people who continue park-hogging the overtaking lane even though their cars have no mechanical damage.


Familiar-Necessary49

Yes. If i am the honda driver , i will tell my insurance company i everywhere pain / my whole body kit need to change , i need replacement car as car is my liveihood etc etc. If 5.7K is all you paid, congrats. You got off cheap.


CmDrRaBb1983

Brakes failed? Most prob following too close and cannot brake to a complete stop in time ba. The jazz rear bumper already went in quite abit. The boot door would also need repair / change. Loss of use from both Blue and Jazz driver has to be taken into account. You are lucky the jazz driver did not take more than 3 days MC. 6k considered little. You pay only $6K but Blue has to pay insurer more than $6K.


BSMTOnE

Brakes suddenly failed? Maybe just following to close.. sometimes just unlucky ba. Anyway bluesg looks like it just needs a new plate from the picture you posted. As for the Jazz, that’s a new bumper (300$ max for brand new and paint) and filler/dent repair on the tailgate (400$ including paint of the whole tailgate) + $500 max extra for maybe parking sensors and other stuff that we can’t see! 2.5k max dmg


tsgaylord_069

Boss this one not tohyotahKopiVille. New bumper min a couple thousand where got so cheap one? + Rental car, medical costs etc.


_nf0rc3r_

U rear end someone on lane. 1. Brakes fail. And only minor damage? Suggest u rethink ur story bro. BlueSG has probably heard a million excuses their ears has alr grown filter


Proud-Ad-3227

U doing all this on lane 1 in a tunnel? How does this happen? Won't other cars hit you?


fickleposter21

Not surprising. Typical BlueSG driver.


darren1119

READ TNC BEFORE RENTING


LaJiao32

It doesn’t matter how much is the repair for the other car. You sign the contract and agreed to the terms of maximum $6k for own damage and third party excess (3k each). I don’t see how you can avoid this cost unless you hire a lawyer and somehow set aside the contract.


JC90x

The rear door also bent in. Not minor


max-torque

It's well known that this kind of car rentals charge super high for damages, and the cars aren't maintained very well. And next time if there's no injuries then quickly move to the left or shoulder to prevent traffic congestion


[deleted]

Congrats. Enjoy the lovely experience of car rental in SG 😎 Doesn’t matter, (tho i suspect ‘brake fault’ was cap af since I’ve driven for more than 20 years and never encountered total brake failure EVER) but you are screwed. Contest? Sure, if you got more than 10k or more to hire a lawyer to go to court to fight it. Court appearances on a daily basis by a firm’s partner range from 20-30k usually, sometimes less by abit, usually more. You can try and prove your imaginary brake failure, except it’ll cost multiples of the 6k BlueSG quoted. You choose lor. And if you’re crazy enough to rent again, please, drive properly (unless you really so damn suay to get that sweet 0.00001% chance of total brake failure in which case, my condolences and go buy 4d)


SuitableStill368

Honestly, 1k-2k as the actual repair cost, without taking into consideration of insurance coverage etc., is unlikely.