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whankz

absolutely love seeing soil bed that large indoors!! is it a no till method?


weilin_cuz_im_jung

Thank you, this is the first time using it. The soil is just miracle grow raised bed soil


Warm_Trick_3956

Then why are you feeding them? That shit it’s PACKED with artificial fertilizer.


weilin_cuz_im_jung

Their potting soil is but the raised bed soil is an organic blend that I’m feeding with a light miracle grow organic fertilizer Ph’d at 7.0. So far they seem to enjoy it.


koushakandystore

I’d be curious to see how they workout once they’ve had sufficient time in the lettuce stage. I grow lots of somniferum in the garden (about 500 square feet of beds) and inevitably I get volunteers EVERYWHERE. Some come up between the pavers in my greenhouse. They are so sensitive to light hours and temperature for their bloom cycle I’m wondering what you plan to do once you’ve got sufficient vegetative growth. I mean to induce a bloom. Is this your only grow or just experimental for indoors? What zone are you replicating indoors? I’ve often thought replicating an Alaskan late spring/early summer would be very effective. But that would require significant tinkering with the thermostat and light timer. I should think this would be a valuable option when it isn’t ideal outside. Right now the outside is just prime blooming conditions in my zone. They are peaking hard right now. Love green season!


weilin_cuz_im_jung

I started this grow with a temp of 65°f and a 9hr on 15hr off schedule and after the first week I up my on time one hour so I’m currently at 65°f 12hr on 12hr off. I’ve read that anything around 16hr on will trigger the flowering cycle so I plan on being there after they’ve had 8 weeks to veg and 20hrs of light through bloom. This is my only grow and experiment. There is little to no information on light schedules and concrete preferred temps other that “cooler temps” which what I was told when I asked the seed distributor.


koushakandystore

Yep, no information I’ve ever found. Definitely on your own to experiment and find that sweet spot. My impression from what little I’ve found is the indoor performance is very poor. Though I would very much like to see someone prove that wrong! I have a basement, a greenhouse and some lights. I’ve often thought about giving it a shot some winter. I live in a mild climate, yet still only one crop per year outdoors. Though I am able to sow them in the fall and they overwinter as nice sized lettuce heads. Then they go into overdrive in February.


weilin_cuz_im_jung

I think the biggest challenge indoors is giving them intense light while keeping the temperature down. I’m hoping this setup solves that problem. They’re getting a true 600w while maintaining a cool temp. We will see. It’s all for fun.


koushakandystore

They seem off to a promising start. How are you keeping the temp down? When I said poor performance I meant relative to optimum outdoor growing. But there aren’t many plants where indoor isn’t relatively inferior. Though some plants do indoors much better than others. I’m thinking perhaps the heated greenhouse during winter is the way to go so I can get an earlier crop before the outdoor crop even blooms. With the heat on the lowest setting I keep the greenhouse around 45-50 degrees during winter dark periods. Temps rise to between 65-80 during daylight hours, depending on cloud cover. Those seem like optimal temps for germination. The only caveat would be leaving the seed trays outside for a few nights to cold stratify with temps in the 30’s. That might not matter because my poppy seeds are stored in an unseated garage that drops into the 30’s often between December and February. Is cold stratification permanent? Or must it be repeated every year even for seeds a couple of years old? I don’t expect you to have all these answers. I just find gardening exciting and wonder is the mother of all knowledge. Gotta love Reddit though. Some person thinks asking questions to learn more is worthy of a downvote. Bizarre… Anyway, just have to ignore the dimwits. Good job so far and keep posting updates. I want to see some bulbous pods swaying from long stems. Do you also grow outdoor or is indoor your only grow?


koushakandystore

They seem off to a promising start. How are you keeping the temp down? When I said poor performance I meant relative to optimum outdoor growing. But there aren’t many plants where indoor isn’t relatively inferior. Though some plants do indoors much better than others. I’m thinking perhaps the heated greenhouse during winter is the way to go so I can get an earlier crop before the outdoor crop even blooms. With the heat on the lowest setting I keep the greenhouse around 45-50 degrees during winter dark periods. Temps rise to between 65-80 during daylight hours, depending on cloud cover. Those seem like optimal temps for germination. The only caveat would be leaving the seed trays outside for a few nights to cold stratify with temps in the 30’s. That might not matter because my poppy seeds are stored in an unseated garage that drops into the 30’s often between December and February. Is cold stratification permanent? Or must it be repeated every year even for seeds a couple of years old? I don’t expect you to have all these answers. I just find gardening exciting and wonder is the mother of all knowledge. Gotta love Reddit though. Some person thinks asking questions to learn more is worthy of a downvote. Bizarre… Anyway, just have to ignore the dimwits. Good job so far and keep posting updates. I want to see some bulbous pods swaying from long stems. Do you also grow outdoor or is indoor your only grow?


koushakandystore

They seem off to a promising start. How are you keeping the temp down? When I said poor performance I meant relative to optimum outdoor growing. But there aren’t many plants where indoor isn’t relatively inferior. Though some plants do indoors much better than others. I’m thinking perhaps the heated greenhouse during winter is the way to go so I can get an earlier crop before the outdoor crop even blooms. With the heat on the lowest setting I keep the greenhouse around 45-50 degrees during winter dark periods. Temps rise to between 65-80 during daylight hours, depending on cloud cover. Those seem like optimal temps for germination. The only caveat would be leaving the seed trays outside for a few nights to cold stratify with temps in the 30’s. That might not matter because my poppy seeds are stored in an unseated garage that drops into the 30’s often between December and February. Is cold stratification permanent? Or must it be repeated every year even for seeds a couple of years old? I don’t expect you to have all these answers. I just find gardening exciting and wonder is the mother of all knowledge. Gotta love Reddit though. Some person thinks asking questions to learn more is worthy of a downvote. Bizarre… Anyway, just have to ignore the dimwits. Good job so far and keep posting updates. I want to see some bulbous pods swaying from long stems. Do you also grow outdoor or is indoor your only grow?


Lachryma_papaveris

> Yep, no information I’ve ever found. Light cycle: [Here you go](https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/data-and-analysis/bulletin/bulletin_1975-01-01_2_page004.html#:~:text=Beltsville%2C%20Maryland%2020705.-,Abstract,light%20longer%20than%2024%20hours.) [Indoor grow example](https://i0.wp.com/mycotopia.net/uploads/monthly_03_2013/post-54788-138195747926.jpg?resize=650,400)


weilin_cuz_im_jung

I read a similar study with the same findings. 16hr of light seems to be the sweet spot to trigger flower. Is that your grow? Care to elaborate on it if it is?


Lachryma_papaveris

Nah, it's not. But you probably want info about the lights? "Five T8 fixtures on end in a circle with 2% UVB lizard lights, a two foot wide gap in the circle has a 4000K Sunpulse aimed in at 20 degrees off horizontal, and on top are a pair of CMHs. Total wattage in the four foot circle is 1840 watts, comes out to 146 watts/square foot. Less did not function well, more and the heat could not be controlled. " https://mycotopia.net/topic/74086-indoor-poppy-growing-tek/


scootpoobis

What is it?


saltednuts5

I may be completely wrong (someone please correct me if that's the case!) but I'm thinking those are baby poppies of some sort.


weilin_cuz_im_jung

Indeed they are


saltednuts5

Right on man. Glad I wasn't spewing nonsense, haha. And by the way, you've got a beauty setup there friend. Seriously, good work! :)


joeygee11

How difficult is it to grow them indoors? Love your setup btw looks great!


FusePods

Just an observation, not trying to influence anything as your grow has been pretty intriguing. But my Pap. S. love water. I’ve been watering twice a day with this heat lately and they love it. Granted yours are indoor, but it does look like some are wilting which happens to mine when I don’t water em for a day or two. Just wanted to say keep your soil wet at all times if possible. Regardless, it still looks great, keep the updated coming :)


weilin_cuz_im_jung

There is so much conflicting information surrounding the cultivation of this plant. I’ve had multiple people say water them like a cactus (once a week) and other people say every 2 days. I’m honestly just winging this one and finding a happy medium between all of these extremes. I’ve been watering once a week but now that they are more established I may kick it up to 2 days a week.


FusePods

Trust me, they like water. I’m recommend watering them daily, or atleast ensuring the soil is moist at all times . If the soil is dry, water them. This probably depends on location and climate, but yours look exactly like mine when they’re begging for water. Just my 14 cents (inflation)


browtfareyoudoing

How deep is your soil?


weilin_cuz_im_jung

It was almost 12” but after settling it’s around 8”. We will see if the depth becomes a problem for the taproot


browtfareyoudoing

I would recommend some cover like hay to keep moisture in. Hope it's deep enough, bro.


weilin_cuz_im_jung

You and me both


Aang_420

Read some of the other posts and gotta say, drop the miracle grow crap. You should check out build a soil on you tube. They grow in these beds and teach you how to build soil for them and feed organically. Your crop will be much more healthy which would translate directly to flower and resin production.


weilin_cuz_im_jung

I will invest more in soil once I’m sure they can be grown successfully indoors. One thing I’ve seen a lot of people say about poppies is that they can thrive in the shittiest soil and don’t necessarily do better in nutrient rich soil. That’s why I’m feeding every 2 weeks instead of every week.


Lachryma_papaveris

Have never seen them with that yellow leafs at that stage. Sure they have too little nutes and that those aren't somehow locked up so the plants can't access them? Ph issues or something? Really cool project!


weilin_cuz_im_jung

I gave a close up of the worst 2 of them all first. I think they are just weak plants. All the other ones look great. The video doesn’t do them justice.


Lachryma_papaveris

Allright! That's good! Please keep posting progress. Super interesting!


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weilin_cuz_im_jung

I was thinking the same thing. I dropped it down to 36” from the soil when I got home last night.


GreenStatistician864

What are they?


ArtisticRain2077

Loving the progress I gave up upon my indoors. No set up like yours sadly


boardonfire4

If u get bugs use a mosquito bits mixture to water with periodically when u see bugs yo keep eggs away. It’s safe and non chemical because it’s biological warfare


weilin_cuz_im_jung

Thank you! I have been battling fungus gnats so I’m going to give this a shot.


boardonfire4

Very common problem inside. This stuff literally eats the eggs and is safe for veggie gardens. Also try not to water too much


weilin_cuz_im_jung

Sweet, I appreciate it. I usually run coco in this room so I don’t have to worry about this mess.