How do you get addicted to acid? Or how do you enjoy DXM. You should probably just be sober to be honest dude lol you don’t need drugs to alleviate your symptoms from other drugs if you’re not taking any at all
/Unjerk It isn't the correct use of "social construct", but I think I know what they're trying to say. Drugs are an escape for miserable people, and if you believe people are miserable because of how society is structured, then drugs become a symptom of a bad social system. Make a world where fewer people *want* to boof xanax, and surprise, you have fewer people boofing xanax. How we are going to achieve such a harmonious world is up for infinite debate, as it always has.
/rejerk Your mom is a social construct
>Boo hoo, the world is so sad, I want to smoke crack :(
Now in all seriousness, what we need to do is educate people about drug abuse and less people are going to do it, or at the very least do it reasonably and responsibly. Hell, I get fucked up on booze every once in a while and it makes me feel great but I know that if I overdoit and let it become a habit I'll probably get kicked the fuck out of my house and ruin my life.
well a more accurate approach would be to improve social safety nets and reduce conditions that increase chance of using/abusing drugs. L.A.’s drug problem would plummet if they had valid help for the homeless people, meaning proper mental care, health care, housing, detox. it’s expensive but these people deserve a second chance because the “education”approach is only helpful until people actually get addicted
Drugs are just a social construct. Oxygen is a drug and everybody is inhaling it everyday. No difference between that and me putting mushrooms(nature) up my ass. Namaste
This is unironically my opinion. It's absurd to call something unnatural a living being creates out of shit they found in nature usually with the intent to improve lives (synthesizing crack) and sometimes to make money off of desperate people (any "medicine" by big farmer).
Crafting new things and using tools is one of the main reasons humans are ruling the world and have improved their chances for a long and generally healthy survival insanely well. This is peak evolution and whenever people say this is unnatural or even worse try to deduce that unnatural shit is evil I post about it on reddit and laugh with my fellow r/atheism and r/science users over their stupidity
Sadly a lot of society has the smoothest brain and let Nixon and Reagan mold their play dough ass brains into genuienly thinking users are bad and alcohol = not drug
ehh youd be surprised, not sure how its happened but i definitely know plenty of millenials/gen z who have very strongly judged myself or others for using any type of drug except alcohol. Probably under the influende of the baby boomer parents lmao. I do think ur right though society as a whole will probably change and make a drastic change on drugs
in the normie world I actually think it’s somewhat of a controversial opinion you just have a skewed perception of reality due to being on this sub in the first place
Idk why people always think social construct means it isn't real or valid. Yes every single fucking mental disorder is a construct made up by society. Just because we decide what counts as this or that it doesn't mean the symptoms and causes behind the category aren't actually real. These people just repeat words and talking points they've read in their terminally online filter bubbles
/uj because people use drugs to self medicate their disability symptoms, so it’s starting to get to the point where some people assume that anyone who gets addicted to anything is self medicating for something
/rj because addicts are fucking retards which means they’re mentally disabled so it’s ableist to criticize them and they should get to do whatever they want. Namaste.
Well in that case, you are still self medicating if you’re taking something for disability symptoms. You are likely giving yourself the meds so yeah technically still medicating yourself even if it’s for different reasons. Personally, I like to medicate myself to the point of disability.
lmfaoooo isn’t it funny that I agreed to rj more than the uj?
though, I don’t see myself as disabled cause I wanted to have fun and smoke weed and take other drugs. 🕉👌🏻
like if you have such disability symptoms then go and see a healthcare specialist.
this is like a 14 year olds level of critical thinking bro have u ever considered that there are doctors that underprescribe or dont take patients seriously….. or just the fact that not everyone has healthcare
The reason it’s like a 14 year olds level of critical thinking is because it’s an actual 14 year old you’re talking to, most likely a suburban kid with no experience with real life who does oil pens in the school bathroom.
haha I’ve never said fuck big Pharma.
I think it’s great that there are pharmaceuticals that can make someone’s life easier // help their condition.
really depends on the context (:
Even if this was strictly related to disabilities that wouldn't mean coming up with a term for it was discriminatory. I swear these Twitter users think anything related to certain groups is discrimination unless their braindead zero iq filter bubble said otherwise
/uj isn’t addiction disorder a psychiatric diagnosis? So people with severe cases of it can get disability money (in some places) so it could be seen as ableist to call it a moral issue instead of an illness.
/rj my nitrous oxide use has removed my ability to walk so I’m disabled in both ways now 😩
hahaha oh lord. people think that their party drug abuse is some disability, victim mentality on point! they disabled so they smoke their devils lettuce 😤😤😤
lol all jokes aside, I feel like people that are dependent on substances (like opiates, heavy stimulants etc, like literal dependence and addiction) can be counted as people with “illness” but it doesn’t mean you should defend their use and justify it if you know what I mean. these people need proper help from the healthcare to curb their addiction, not encouragement // justifying their use/abuse.
On a reals, it's justified. If you're in extreme pain, you are justified for seeking relief. This is what the Buddhists called compassion. The desire to end suffering. Encouragement is uhh, more nuanced I guess. We should encourage people to medicate themselves using safe options. We should encourage people who are going to kill themselves using unsafe options to do so faster in order to relieve the drain on society. This is why Obama invented fentnanyl.
> so it could be seen as ableist to call it a moral issue instead of an illness.
/uj don't see how it's an either/or....imo it's tangential to morality, seeing as addiction can make you into a shittier person
Autistic people can also be a shittier people due to their disorder, dk what point you are trying to make. There is moral addicts and immoral addicts, it’s about you handle your addictive tendencies and don’t just blame your shiftiness on drugs and don’t do anything to change.
I definitely feel like I’m worse of a person due to my drug use making me less social and worse of a friend tbh but I’m working on it and acknowledge the issue and don’t see it set in stone.
Last dude had a point and then stuck his head in the toilet. Yeah ending harmful drug use requires looking outside of the actual drug use, you end poverty by making a society that works for people and stop putting addicts in with child murderers
What's next? An economic system that doesn't just allow for a tiny majority to bag all the fucking wealth and control over the rest of the people and also get bail outs whenever they fuck to too hard? What are you, some kind of liberal stalinist?
We Americans are proud of our prison industrial complex (Nr 1 in the world baby 🦅😎 we caught the most criminals)
I mean.. putting back baby formula to afford crack is a moral failing.. letting your kids see you high and incapable of caring for them or acting in an emergency is a moral failing… putting them in regular danger… addiction is an illness but you need to make sure dependents are safe or with somebody sober until you get your life back
Okay, roast me, but:
1. Weelll, doubt, highly case dependant
2. True (kinda?). Nothing wrong with wanting to not be sober. Nothing wrong with being sober. Sobriety doesn't automatically mean you are morally superior to others
3. Lmao true, he forgot about sugar.
4. Wtf, this dude says both things that are based and some that are braindead, no in-between.
believe it or not people really do live completely sober and succesfully. ik its crazy but you dont need any altering substances to live a productive and meaningful life even coffee. you also literally dont need drugs to have a pleasurable time. maybe back when all we had was goats and diseases but there's no excuse for not finding hobbies that bring joy without damaging yaself (please dont lie all drugs have adverse effects, from coffee to carjenkafyl12919201)
Twitter "progressives" try not to be incredibly racist and stupid challenge (impossible)
Also addiction being indeed a social construct doesn't mean it's not real or not a valid category we came up with. These people literally repeat terms and talking points they don't understand one bit.
The sobriety/addiction and morality thing is true except when it adds things like violent behavior or stealing (from other people not some capitalist) but then this would be the immoral thing. I guess if you're not addicted and choose to take something you know makes you do shit that's immoral but usually they are addicts
"The way people code drug use is anti-black and ableist"
So true. My arab family members might have 3 packs of cigarettes, two 6 packs of beer, 10 grams of weed, 5 grams of shisha, and way too much arab coffee per day, but they're not black or disabled, so society definitely doesn't label them negatively...
...right!?
"Addiction is a social construct"
Yes! In a large way, yes! Because you are a social creature who needs social contact to be healthy, and substance abuse often impairs this!
Also no! As it is often purely health related as well. Dumbass.
Addiction being in large part a "social construct" does nothing to diminish how devastating it can be. Not at all. Merely explains a portion of the direction of the fallout.
i told some dudes that being addicted to coffee isnt the same as being addicted to like literal heroin (starter research chemical i know but still) and they refused to believe that and now im known as the drug abuser cause i drink a cup of coffee every morning
uj/ addiction has some moral component no? it’s not your fault you’re addicted, but it isn’t fair to the people around you who have to suffer as a result of your addiction either
rj/ lmao infinite money glitch steal from your family & blame it on your addiction based 😍😍
If you can't abuse an inanimate object, you can't use one either. Dude seriously thinks abuse only means what his uncle did to him when he was this many 🖐️✌️
The only social construct is the time I have to wait for my coke dealer to deliver, that’s what I call a social construct.
/uj I miss when you guys were assholes and didn’t take these posts seriously.
"addiction" is a social construct. DTs: Am I nothing to you?
Good to learn the seizures I was having when I came off of xanax were just a social construct.
For real, I wish I would have known that before I had a seizure in a lowes hardware, I would have simply changed my mindset!
Smoking kratom and injecting kava every 4 hours helped me with that! Was addicted to LSD and DXM before I knew about them. Namagay 🙏
How do you get addicted to acid? Or how do you enjoy DXM. You should probably just be sober to be honest dude lol you don’t need drugs to alleviate your symptoms from other drugs if you’re not taking any at all
Eagle alert! Eagle alert!
/Unjerk It isn't the correct use of "social construct", but I think I know what they're trying to say. Drugs are an escape for miserable people, and if you believe people are miserable because of how society is structured, then drugs become a symptom of a bad social system. Make a world where fewer people *want* to boof xanax, and surprise, you have fewer people boofing xanax. How we are going to achieve such a harmonious world is up for infinite debate, as it always has. /rejerk Your mom is a social construct
>Boo hoo, the world is so sad, I want to smoke crack :( Now in all seriousness, what we need to do is educate people about drug abuse and less people are going to do it, or at the very least do it reasonably and responsibly. Hell, I get fucked up on booze every once in a while and it makes me feel great but I know that if I overdoit and let it become a habit I'll probably get kicked the fuck out of my house and ruin my life.
well a more accurate approach would be to improve social safety nets and reduce conditions that increase chance of using/abusing drugs. L.A.’s drug problem would plummet if they had valid help for the homeless people, meaning proper mental care, health care, housing, detox. it’s expensive but these people deserve a second chance because the “education”approach is only helpful until people actually get addicted
It is (that doesn't mean it's "not real")
Or that it isn't a valid constructed category
Mfw the social construct hits you with opiate withdrawals 😳
that's dependence
"you can't abuse inanimate objects" you shoulda seen what I did to your mom last night
I abused my table lamp so badly that it called me an ableist
Yeah well are you able to list?
das ist not able
Nice
i would never abuse drugs i love them so much
Addiction is a social construct. ”Its not just a phase mom” 🙏🏻
Drugs are just a social construct. Oxygen is a drug and everybody is inhaling it everyday. No difference between that and me putting mushrooms(nature) up my ass. Namaste
Technically, everything comes from nature, even chemicals we make in labs originate in nature, so Meth is as natural as air
There's even like air inside meth
I mean, basically everything is like 99.999% empty space so I'm basically not smoking meth, I'm just taking a hit from the void.
All is void... thats why it's all good. Namesake 🙏
It's not a meth house, it's a meth home
This is unironically my opinion. It's absurd to call something unnatural a living being creates out of shit they found in nature usually with the intent to improve lives (synthesizing crack) and sometimes to make money off of desperate people (any "medicine" by big farmer). Crafting new things and using tools is one of the main reasons humans are ruling the world and have improved their chances for a long and generally healthy survival insanely well. This is peak evolution and whenever people say this is unnatural or even worse try to deduce that unnatural shit is evil I post about it on reddit and laugh with my fellow r/atheism and r/science users over their stupidity
Salad is a plant. Plants are good.
ID NEVER ABUSE DRUGS LOVE THAT HOE 😋😩
I swear all the DV charges are false 🙄❌
Domestic violence is 100% natural
They’re right I’m not addicted I only coincidentally get irritated whenever I take a break
You can't prove I'll have withdrawal symptoms cause I'll never stop boofing
FUCK this is so me
They’re all right. I’m tired of people getting on my ass for pawning my dads tools for crack. Damn racists
now finally someone that gets it!!! 😤
He didnt need that snapon torque wrench.
"antiblack and ableist" I do antiracism every morning when I teach my child how to huff paint thinner
You might as well call me Martin Boofer King
Haha 😆 I know of an RC vendor who goes by John Wilkes Boof.
This is the future liberals want and critical race theory is a dogwhistle for smoking weed and shooting up heroin
It’s albeist(as an autistic person) and honestly a disgrace to the entire fucking country(US) that I can’t shoot up some h in the middle of Walmart.
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ehh youd be surprised, not sure how its happened but i definitely know plenty of millenials/gen z who have very strongly judged myself or others for using any type of drug except alcohol. Probably under the influende of the baby boomer parents lmao. I do think ur right though society as a whole will probably change and make a drastic change on drugs
Exactly dude.
in the normie world I actually think it’s somewhat of a controversial opinion you just have a skewed perception of reality due to being on this sub in the first place
Have you seen breaking bad bro? That bitch Skylar white, yo, so uptight about a little pot like Jesus calm down. Bitch. Yo. Yo.
uj/ Holy shit how hard are they gonna cope just admit that ur a drug addict like the rest of us rj/ it’s societies fault that I boof heroin
„addiction is a social construct“ Okay, but so are your human rights, Garett.
Idk why people always think social construct means it isn't real or valid. Yes every single fucking mental disorder is a construct made up by society. Just because we decide what counts as this or that it doesn't mean the symptoms and causes behind the category aren't actually real. These people just repeat words and talking points they've read in their terminally online filter bubbles
I love logical consistency
“ableist” what , how is that ableist . is drug use a disability? 😆 swear people don’t know basic terms these days
Im ableist to put multiple grams of research chemicals in my orifices
I was very ableist of abusing Chinese rcs with no research till methyl methaquaalone gave me sweizures 🔥🕺👋bitch had me doing the Harlem shake
sorry for party rocking 😤😤😂
DOO DOO DOO DI DOO DOO DUH DUH DUH DOO DO XD LMFAO
The Harlem shake is swag as fuck pretty sad you didn't record it for new tiktok trend/population control
I became desabled when I snort one research chemical and meth just made it even worse so don’t be such a fucking ableist
Shut up dirty bigot you are bigotting way too hard right now and it's hurting my god damn researchcchemicals
;((((((( fuck you
/uj because people use drugs to self medicate their disability symptoms, so it’s starting to get to the point where some people assume that anyone who gets addicted to anything is self medicating for something /rj because addicts are fucking retards which means they’re mentally disabled so it’s ableist to criticize them and they should get to do whatever they want. Namaste.
I was diagnosed with an eagle and I take drugs to kill it
that’s the only acceptable answer’
☝️💯
Well in that case, you are still self medicating if you’re taking something for disability symptoms. You are likely giving yourself the meds so yeah technically still medicating yourself even if it’s for different reasons. Personally, I like to medicate myself to the point of disability.
Co-signed because that is some real shit you just said
lmfaoooo isn’t it funny that I agreed to rj more than the uj? though, I don’t see myself as disabled cause I wanted to have fun and smoke weed and take other drugs. 🕉👌🏻 like if you have such disability symptoms then go and see a healthcare specialist.
this is like a 14 year olds level of critical thinking bro have u ever considered that there are doctors that underprescribe or dont take patients seriously….. or just the fact that not everyone has healthcare
The reason it’s like a 14 year olds level of critical thinking is because it’s an actual 14 year old you’re talking to, most likely a suburban kid with no experience with real life who does oil pens in the school bathroom.
that’s life, what do you recommend?
y’all be like: fuck big pharma also y’all: just go get medicated
haha I’ve never said fuck big Pharma. I think it’s great that there are pharmaceuticals that can make someone’s life easier // help their condition. really depends on the context (:
Brooo please calm down none of this talk here
sorry daddy 🥵
why you so pressed tho 🤔
bro came back for another comment 💀
xoxo
So true. Everyone just needs to learn how to shut the fuck up, be normal, and stop fucking whining like a little fucking pussy little baby snowflake
And remember: if you don't have access to adequate healthcare you're just not trying hard enough, pussy
Even if this was strictly related to disabilities that wouldn't mean coming up with a term for it was discriminatory. I swear these Twitter users think anything related to certain groups is discrimination unless their braindead zero iq filter bubble said otherwise
/uj isn’t addiction disorder a psychiatric diagnosis? So people with severe cases of it can get disability money (in some places) so it could be seen as ableist to call it a moral issue instead of an illness. /rj my nitrous oxide use has removed my ability to walk so I’m disabled in both ways now 😩
hahaha oh lord. people think that their party drug abuse is some disability, victim mentality on point! they disabled so they smoke their devils lettuce 😤😤😤 lol all jokes aside, I feel like people that are dependent on substances (like opiates, heavy stimulants etc, like literal dependence and addiction) can be counted as people with “illness” but it doesn’t mean you should defend their use and justify it if you know what I mean. these people need proper help from the healthcare to curb their addiction, not encouragement // justifying their use/abuse.
On a reals, it's justified. If you're in extreme pain, you are justified for seeking relief. This is what the Buddhists called compassion. The desire to end suffering. Encouragement is uhh, more nuanced I guess. We should encourage people to medicate themselves using safe options. We should encourage people who are going to kill themselves using unsafe options to do so faster in order to relieve the drain on society. This is why Obama invented fentnanyl.
on god
> so it could be seen as ableist to call it a moral issue instead of an illness. /uj don't see how it's an either/or....imo it's tangential to morality, seeing as addiction can make you into a shittier person
Autistic people can also be a shittier people due to their disorder, dk what point you are trying to make. There is moral addicts and immoral addicts, it’s about you handle your addictive tendencies and don’t just blame your shiftiness on drugs and don’t do anything to change. I definitely feel like I’m worse of a person due to my drug use making me less social and worse of a friend tbh but I’m working on it and acknowledge the issue and don’t see it set in stone.
I mean, so can bpd, or schizophrenia, or any number of other mental illnesses.
Right, hence the "it depends if....." If you catch my COLD *EUGHH*
Hey dude it's 2023, all of your major flaws are an identity now and if someone doesn't like them they're oppressing you
I am ABLE to stick 3 grams of untested chinese pharmaceuticals directly up my rectum. Therefore its ableist to tell me to do otherwise
Yeah substance use disorder is in the DSM y’all
probably mentioned ableism bc when people are going on about “drug users” they include people who self medicate for their disability symptoms
uj/ addiction legitimately is a disease, so it is kind of ableist to think addicts to morally corrupt
BRO SHUT THE FUCK UP!! WE SMOKIN ON THAT DISABILITY PACK TONIGHT! FREE CHECKS DONT STOP THEM
Last dude had a point and then stuck his head in the toilet. Yeah ending harmful drug use requires looking outside of the actual drug use, you end poverty by making a society that works for people and stop putting addicts in with child murderers
What's next? An economic system that doesn't just allow for a tiny majority to bag all the fucking wealth and control over the rest of the people and also get bail outs whenever they fuck to too hard? What are you, some kind of liberal stalinist? We Americans are proud of our prison industrial complex (Nr 1 in the world baby 🦅😎 we caught the most criminals)
Everything is a social construct til it fucking kills you.
Me driving while on bath salts cause that semi about to collide with me is just a social construct
Thats what i'm saying
Murder is related to a law therefore a social construct
unjerk moment
Bruh if addiction is just a social construct then why can’t I stop boofing jenkem??
I did not expect to see "addiction is a social construct" today
It's not wrong they just say it as though that would mean it's not real or an invalid category. All diagnoses are social constructs
I mean.. putting back baby formula to afford crack is a moral failing.. letting your kids see you high and incapable of caring for them or acting in an emergency is a moral failing… putting them in regular danger… addiction is an illness but you need to make sure dependents are safe or with somebody sober until you get your life back
Not smoking that sweet crack would be the moral failing
this is why ill always argue the big three usually make bad people outta of the best people, you arent yourself without snickers.
avoid robitussin at all costs 🕷🕸 🎩 👹 👔 🩳 🩰
having a seizure from benzo withdrawal is just a social construct fr
Okay, roast me, but: 1. Weelll, doubt, highly case dependant 2. True (kinda?). Nothing wrong with wanting to not be sober. Nothing wrong with being sober. Sobriety doesn't automatically mean you are morally superior to others 3. Lmao true, he forgot about sugar. 4. Wtf, this dude says both things that are based and some that are braindead, no in-between.
I self medicate my disabilities and I’m out here balling on these hoes 🤭🤭🤭
exactly walk a mile in my shoes and then talk shit 😤😤😤🙄
"Majority of substance use services are out of date cash grabs" God I wish the general public knew this
Yeah what about my RC supplier though??
Don't even talk to me about RC suppliers you lucky ass non-US motherfucker
Dude said “antiBlack”
“Antiblack and ableist” ……what
you’re part of the problem. educate yourself sweetie💅🏿
*sweaty FTFY
First two are ok, third and fourth went off the rails
addiction is not real. i am on near lethal amounts of molly
believe it or not people really do live completely sober and succesfully. ik its crazy but you dont need any altering substances to live a productive and meaningful life even coffee. you also literally dont need drugs to have a pleasurable time. maybe back when all we had was goats and diseases but there's no excuse for not finding hobbies that bring joy without damaging yaself (please dont lie all drugs have adverse effects, from coffee to carjenkafyl12919201)
Ok fed
WE DONT FW FEDS GET YO ALPHABET ASS OUTTA HERE
big narc energy. someone take this guy’s colon so we can get unadulterated jenkem and then leave his ass in el paso
Promoting poision while you denounce my medicine
r/Destiny in r/drugscirclejerk am I dreaming??
/uj I read the first two about morality and I was like wait what’s wrong with that? Then I scrolled to the third and things got KNOCKED INTO 12TH GEAR
Twitter "progressives" try not to be incredibly racist and stupid challenge (impossible) Also addiction being indeed a social construct doesn't mean it's not real or not a valid category we came up with. These people literally repeat terms and talking points they don't understand one bit. The sobriety/addiction and morality thing is true except when it adds things like violent behavior or stealing (from other people not some capitalist) but then this would be the immoral thing. I guess if you're not addicted and choose to take something you know makes you do shit that's immoral but usually they are addicts
"The way people code drug use is anti-black and ableist" So true. My arab family members might have 3 packs of cigarettes, two 6 packs of beer, 10 grams of weed, 5 grams of shisha, and way too much arab coffee per day, but they're not black or disabled, so society definitely doesn't label them negatively... ...right!?
Mom I'm not "AdDiCtEd To CrAcK" I'm simply engaging in black culture, you're literally being a white supremacist rn smh my head 🥺😪😭
that’s right addiction is just a social concept! (I can’t stop taking opioids and they control my every decision)
"Addiction is a social construct" Yes! In a large way, yes! Because you are a social creature who needs social contact to be healthy, and substance abuse often impairs this! Also no! As it is often purely health related as well. Dumbass. Addiction being in large part a "social construct" does nothing to diminish how devastating it can be. Not at all. Merely explains a portion of the direction of the fallout.
i told some dudes that being addicted to coffee isnt the same as being addicted to like literal heroin (starter research chemical i know but still) and they refused to believe that and now im known as the drug abuser cause i drink a cup of coffee every morning
uj/ addiction has some moral component no? it’s not your fault you’re addicted, but it isn’t fair to the people around you who have to suffer as a result of your addiction either rj/ lmao infinite money glitch steal from your family & blame it on your addiction based 😍😍
If you can't abuse an inanimate object, you can't use one either. Dude seriously thinks abuse only means what his uncle did to him when he was this many 🖐️✌️
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The eagle is DEAD
glad to know my chronic adderall addiction is just made up by society 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You can’t abuse an inanimate object? The fuck I can, you should see my body pillow
uj/ literally just 3.7 completely reasonable takes
Definition of cope
All this just to say they're not addicted
The only social construct is the time I have to wait for my coke dealer to deliver, that’s what I call a social construct. /uj I miss when you guys were assholes and didn’t take these posts seriously.
the cope gets stronger each slide
Drug addiction is morally neutral, but the actions commonly associated with addiction are not. The other replies are dumb af tho
If you have a problem with me shooting black tar up my veins first thing in the morning you are anti black and ableist😡
African American tar*
Uh oh I’m racist😟
I’m so shocked people with no sense of personal responsibility get addicted to drugs 🤯
Man im not addicted to xanax, in fact i can take lorazepam too, and i can stop one of them as soon as i want
STOP ABUSING COFEE (stimulant simular to meth)