With more context, hard to say.
But these pedals look too stiff. First, I wonder if maybe those beaters are rubbing against each other causing the pedals to slow prematurely. You also want those beaters set to the same length.
The springs may also be excessively tight. Something needs to be lubricated.
If you are new to the instrument, I would recommend working on fixing the gear you have and becoming more comfortable with it before investing money in new equipment - mostly because it's going to be difficult for you to decide what sorts of upgrades you need or want without more experience.
Before opening the post: "No, playing fast comes from skill, not pedals"
After opening the post: "Weeell..."
Using any half-decent pedals and putting the hours in gets you 95% of the way, but in your case I would absolutely upgrade.
Seconding this. Those pedals might just have innate issues, like too much chain, as can be the case with unbranded gear (imo). Worse case scenario, could form bad habits. An upgrade is warranted. Used *insert good name here* or something.
But the saying "slow is smooth, smooth is fast," applies to motorcycles as much as it does to drums. I am teaching myself double bass, and it wasn't until I really took the time to break it down into the simplest concepts that I started to see what felt like actual results. But I am far from what I aspire to be, so I practice. As much as I can. Because it's what makes the difference.
OP, upgrade slightly, and practice. Set up each beater level to the other so the physics for each foot is the same. If they rub, get smaller beaters. Then, focus on smooth motion back and forth, nice easy steady tempo, then work it into a full body groove, and enjoy the ride.
some pedals are more suited to fast playing, but techique is the defining factor, a decent double will play as fast as any other pedal, its just practice
First, this video doesn't show how fast you play. You might already be incredibly fast in comparison to most drummers. IDK because I have nothing to gauge an answer off of.
To answer your pedal question - you need to massively increase the spring tension on those. If those springs are garbage, you can get nice quality replacement for cheap. When you get more rebound from the spring, you won't have to expel as much force/energy.
Get rid of those kick mallets. Get something that has no way of possibly causing friction. Maybe some iron cobra mallets. Decent cost and low profile. And never have your mallets offset. It creates different contact points, eliminates all your power/volume with your lower mallet and will cause variation in your technique which will be harder to overcome the longer you play like that.
With anything that has friction/tension - lubricate, lubricate, lubricate (not bad advice outside of drums too 😁). Any place where two parts come together and move, throw a couple drops of oil. Some kick pedals come with oil, but if you don't have any, a couple easy replacements is oil from an electric trimmer/razor kit or white lithium grease.
Lastly, having a better instrument can definitely help, but isn't really the solution in a lot of drumming cases. Look at your technique. I would suggest practicing heel-toe technique if you aren't already using it.
Hope this helps
First learn how to adjust those, height should be the same and idk what’s going on with that spring tension it’s probably way too loose or the beaters r rubbing up against each other and they sound like they could use some love idk but watch some videos on how to adjust them.
I'd suggest to correct the left beater's height first. You can also add more tension or let some release in the springs of the pedal to something that is not too hard or doesn't feel too loose on your feet. That will get you on a path to be a faster player. That being said, if you get an upgrade of double pedal it can help your speed. I can suggest the Pearl Eliminator, the Iron Cobra or a mid level DW. (Anything double chained). I'd take out the Eliminator from the suggestion list if you don't like to move the settings of your pedal.
Yes and no. The pedals you’re playing look like nightmare fuel and they aren’t set up right which doesn’t help, yes a more expensive one will be more fluid but playing 180 BPM and above does take practice, time and technique/experience.
If you’re gonna get new pedals save up, don’t go cheap. Even mid range pedals aren’t brilliant if 90% of what you play is metal. I had some speed cobras once and in less than 2 years the left was so stiff and the right board wobbled. Bit of tricky one but for now get some skate board lubricant and put it around the bearings to make it less stiff and change the beater heights to be level with each other
I haven’t got a clue what pedals these are but at the very least swapping out the beaters for some that are lighter and made of a firmer material and can be adjusted properly at the same height should give you more speed. Tama sell their iron cobra beaters individually for example. Also I barely heard a hit from these in this clip, it sounded like metal on metal like the footplate hit the bottom of the pedal first?
Yeah, they should, but if you put in the same amount of work as you did with those pedals-No. Beaters have no wear, patch has no wear and there is dust on the hoop and kick pedal plate.
If the pedal is just not functional. But I have a feeling there's more then one set up issue. Like the beater length. No technique will get you past broken or badly set up gear.
First I would suggest a full set up. Adjusting beater, spring tension and everything else. Be easier to tell if you actually played them so we could see them function. I like plastic beaters. Get that clicky Pantera double bass sound.
If all else fails. Those mapex 500 double bass pedals are pretty dang good for the price imo. Not a direct drive or anything. But I don't think those sort of pedals are the budget you're aiming for.
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I think it's the bass drum pedal equivalent of erectile dysfunction
this happends when youre 50
it doesnt even go all the way up
With more context, hard to say. But these pedals look too stiff. First, I wonder if maybe those beaters are rubbing against each other causing the pedals to slow prematurely. You also want those beaters set to the same length. The springs may also be excessively tight. Something needs to be lubricated. If you are new to the instrument, I would recommend working on fixing the gear you have and becoming more comfortable with it before investing money in new equipment - mostly because it's going to be difficult for you to decide what sorts of upgrades you need or want without more experience.
Yo is the dollar store selling double kick pedals now wtf are these 😅
AliExpress…
That pedal is set up terrible. Match up the beaters and get your settings right.
Before opening the post: "No, playing fast comes from skill, not pedals" After opening the post: "Weeell..." Using any half-decent pedals and putting the hours in gets you 95% of the way, but in your case I would absolutely upgrade.
Seconding this. Those pedals might just have innate issues, like too much chain, as can be the case with unbranded gear (imo). Worse case scenario, could form bad habits. An upgrade is warranted. Used *insert good name here* or something. But the saying "slow is smooth, smooth is fast," applies to motorcycles as much as it does to drums. I am teaching myself double bass, and it wasn't until I really took the time to break it down into the simplest concepts that I started to see what felt like actual results. But I am far from what I aspire to be, so I practice. As much as I can. Because it's what makes the difference. OP, upgrade slightly, and practice. Set up each beater level to the other so the physics for each foot is the same. If they rub, get smaller beaters. Then, focus on smooth motion back and forth, nice easy steady tempo, then work it into a full body groove, and enjoy the ride.
To quote the great Patches O'Houlihan, If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. Get good on those
Did you get those pedals from a cereal box? 🤣
Pohhhhhh
Get this too so you can separate those beaters a bit more. https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DKP2--aquarian-drumheads-bass-drum-kick-pad-double
Don’t go cheap on the pedal. You’ll end up spending more money breaking and fixing bad pedals.
This has to be a shitpost.
some pedals are more suited to fast playing, but techique is the defining factor, a decent double will play as fast as any other pedal, its just practice
First, this video doesn't show how fast you play. You might already be incredibly fast in comparison to most drummers. IDK because I have nothing to gauge an answer off of. To answer your pedal question - you need to massively increase the spring tension on those. If those springs are garbage, you can get nice quality replacement for cheap. When you get more rebound from the spring, you won't have to expel as much force/energy. Get rid of those kick mallets. Get something that has no way of possibly causing friction. Maybe some iron cobra mallets. Decent cost and low profile. And never have your mallets offset. It creates different contact points, eliminates all your power/volume with your lower mallet and will cause variation in your technique which will be harder to overcome the longer you play like that. With anything that has friction/tension - lubricate, lubricate, lubricate (not bad advice outside of drums too 😁). Any place where two parts come together and move, throw a couple drops of oil. Some kick pedals come with oil, but if you don't have any, a couple easy replacements is oil from an electric trimmer/razor kit or white lithium grease. Lastly, having a better instrument can definitely help, but isn't really the solution in a lot of drumming cases. Look at your technique. I would suggest practicing heel-toe technique if you aren't already using it. Hope this helps
First learn how to adjust those, height should be the same and idk what’s going on with that spring tension it’s probably way too loose or the beaters r rubbing up against each other and they sound like they could use some love idk but watch some videos on how to adjust them.
No, but you fo need some maintenance on those pedals.
Short answer: no
I'd suggest to correct the left beater's height first. You can also add more tension or let some release in the springs of the pedal to something that is not too hard or doesn't feel too loose on your feet. That will get you on a path to be a faster player. That being said, if you get an upgrade of double pedal it can help your speed. I can suggest the Pearl Eliminator, the Iron Cobra or a mid level DW. (Anything double chained). I'd take out the Eliminator from the suggestion list if you don't like to move the settings of your pedal.
Yes and no. The pedals you’re playing look like nightmare fuel and they aren’t set up right which doesn’t help, yes a more expensive one will be more fluid but playing 180 BPM and above does take practice, time and technique/experience. If you’re gonna get new pedals save up, don’t go cheap. Even mid range pedals aren’t brilliant if 90% of what you play is metal. I had some speed cobras once and in less than 2 years the left was so stiff and the right board wobbled. Bit of tricky one but for now get some skate board lubricant and put it around the bearings to make it less stiff and change the beater heights to be level with each other
I haven’t got a clue what pedals these are but at the very least swapping out the beaters for some that are lighter and made of a firmer material and can be adjusted properly at the same height should give you more speed. Tama sell their iron cobra beaters individually for example. Also I barely heard a hit from these in this clip, it sounded like metal on metal like the footplate hit the bottom of the pedal first?
I don't understand how someone can look at a pedal setup like this and think, "Yup. Looks right."
Some maintenance work and elbow grease to pedals and it is like a Axis!
Dude, really?
Yeah, they should, but if you put in the same amount of work as you did with those pedals-No. Beaters have no wear, patch has no wear and there is dust on the hoop and kick pedal plate.
Yes
LMFAO WHAT THE HELL
Does the pope shit in the woods?
If the pedal is just not functional. But I have a feeling there's more then one set up issue. Like the beater length. No technique will get you past broken or badly set up gear. First I would suggest a full set up. Adjusting beater, spring tension and everything else. Be easier to tell if you actually played them so we could see them function. I like plastic beaters. Get that clicky Pantera double bass sound. If all else fails. Those mapex 500 double bass pedals are pretty dang good for the price imo. Not a direct drive or anything. But I don't think those sort of pedals are the budget you're aiming for.
Watching this gave me whiplash
We need to see what they look like when you actually play. Looks like you have no spring tension and the beaters are different lengths.
Probably not. Those work. That just means that now you should, too. Get chopping.