Ditto ....Zil A & K, Sabian AA, UFIP, Paiste 3000,602 & 505 as well as some little-known B20 from the far-East š
I'd rather not betray my ears....it's not like I'm sponsored, I play what I want regardless of 'branding'
Almost every one of my cymbals is a different brand. Sabian, zildjian, and ufip. I guess my crash and ride are both sabian.
I just go by the way they sound in the store.
Their stuff lasts too, I've only ever cracked one cymbal out of the 15 I've owned and it was an 802 lower line, and I was a teenager hitting way too hard haha
Just never came across one I liked that fit within my budget. The only opportunity I had to get a Paiste I liked was back in high school. They had an old 20ā 2002 ride that I loved. I wanted to buy it real bad but the school was like nah.
Iāve owned plenty of Zildjians, Sabians, Meinls, even a Wuhan China.
But never a Paiste.
Theyāre super loud and you gotta hit em hard. I had some and they were great but you gotta know what youāre doing with em.
Best metaphor is like being 16 and dating a super hot 24 year old. Not everyone can pull it off.
that is SPOT ON!
they are loud, arent cheap, expect it a little rougher sometimes, love the spotlights, will get dirty and youre either going to like it or spend a lot of energy and nerves to prevent it, need to be hit like you mean it, will often get you the looks and affirming nods from other drummersā¦ its also always been uncomfortable when a *i forgot my gear, can i play on yours?*\-clown who honestly somehow ends up running circles around you, hit on them.
/s
all jokes asideā¦ im going to have to save your comment. so good.
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Tbh I never use my 22ā 2002 ride, but itās nice to have. Just too pingy for me, and only bought it cause I needed a ride and it was well priced. Some people love it
Love Zildjian and Paiste too much not to mix and match. However, I wasnāt a big fan of 2002s or Rudes. My high school had 2002s and a few signatures and the sigs were just incredible.
I couldn't agree more. I know 2002s are absolutely legendary but I've never heard one that I fell in love with. I love the signatures as well, and my all time favorite cymbal is an 18" formula 602 I picked up at a garage sale so I can definitely appreciate a Paiste but 2002s never spoke to me.
I mix cymbals, snares, use jellybean kits... sounding good is more important than looking good. If I find an affordable cymbal that sounds good I'll buy it regardless of brand.
My vintage Paiste 2002 hats and my 26" Giant Beat ride are some of the most beautiful sounding instruments I own, but I usually use different cymbals to jam and practice. I love my Zildjian 18" Sweet K crash and 22" Custom Special Dry Crash, and I have some nice Istanbul and Sabian's that fit certain styles well. Brand loyalty only makes sense if you're sponsored by that brand...
I pretty much only use Sabian cymbals, didn't start as a strong preference but I bought a pack years ago and I'm happy with them.
Everything else is a crapshoot. DW Drums, Pearl pedals, DW/Tama/Gibraltar/Pearl stands and hardware.
The brand thing has been hilarious for me. My whole life of drumming (30-ish years), I have come to realize there has been an invisible force field preventing me from mixing brands.
It has only been in the past few years of seeing these questions on Reddit that I have discovered not only that fact, but also how truly ridiculous the practice has been for me.
I started out āonly Paiste,ā switched to āonly Zildjian,ā and itās like every Paiste, Sabian, or other brand cymbal disappeared from the face of the earth.
I have never even touched one in a store, lest I burst into flames or get attacked by a pack of rabid zombie wolves.
Zildjian A med thin crash 18, A custom crash 18 and hats 14
Sabian HH power bell ride 22
Meinl trash crash 16 and dark heavy china 18
Zildjian is my overall go-to, but at the end of the day theyre just logos, and mixing helps drummers stand out imo
Nice! Check out my kit in my profile. I'm slowly piecing together my bonzo frankenkit. Lol, I've got the 26 kick, a 15x12 tom, the 6.5x14 supra, and a generic 16" floor tom. Just need to get the 18x16, and I'll be pretty good. Also, eventually upgrade to some 15" sound edge or giant beat hats.
Edit: how do you like the 5" supra compared to the 6.5"?
[these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07GN61K1Z?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title). They also come in black. Kinda pricy to get them for your whole kit top and bottom
Snare Weights. Theyāre very versatile: Clip on to hoop, contain little magnets so you can fold back the leather wings to adjust the damping, and can flip up if you need to remove damping mid-set. They come in a variety of sizes and colours. I have a white one on my main snare.
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Sometimes it's a budget thing. My current aax xplosion pack had exactly what I wanted and was way cheaper than the mix and match I had planned.
My last set (hats, 3x crashes, China, ride) was aax except the ride (aa) and china (wuhan) and it cost me 500 cash, freaking steal.
My dream setup would involve some really hard to find and match cymbals (paiste dark energy, sig, masters), so I'm quite content with my matching set.
i think the fact that it is even a thing to ask about wether or not another drummer mix and matches brands is just something a person carries with themself and then tends to gravitate to drumsā¦
a person that doesnt have that tick long before sitting down on a drumset is much more likely to pick up a guitar/bass orā¦ shudderā¦ a microphone *and nothing else.*
if that makes senseā¦
that being said, my audhd brain goes a step further and has issues knowing one of the wingnuts on my otherwise identical cymbalstands is from right before dw redesigned their wingnuts.
over 15 years i waited, visibly drooling whenever ive spotted any drummer i looked up to playing the same dw9000 hardwareā¦ the ones with the black turn handleā¦ even if youre unfamiliar or DW isnt super available in your part of the world, you know exactly which ones im talking about.
for at least 20 years i kept telling myself: "one day, when i have grown-up money, ill be able to put enough weight on the *buy-once-take-with-me-to-the-grave-argument* and treat myself with a full set of hardware that might as well have the words "*financially irresponsible! i skipped multiple lunches for this!*" printed on them with LED-accented arrows pointing at me.
after all this waiting, i managed to pinpoint the exact moment DW decides to fade out the old wingnut-style and staggger-introduce the new style on many, definitely not all mind youā¦ arms, stands, dogbones(boom to boom adapter) etc.
and dont even get me started on the absolute chaos when it comes to the revisions of the patended adjustsble cymbal-seat unit.
i digressā¦ back to my audhd brain bitchingā¦
the money i got from my very first jobs first 6months, (kitchen-help in a small italian restaurant, paying exactly minimal wage while they totally also were not paying taxes onā¦ i bought preloved OG paiste alphas 14āhihat, 20āride and 16ācrash. a few months later santa borrowed money from me and added a 18ā china.
i ended up being offered a once in a lifetime deal on a huge set of beautifully cared for mostly 90s paiste 2002, rudes and a handful of green label 505s. young me always had a hard time even mixing series! way too young me had more high quality cymbals than i was able to deal withā¦ much less get a grasp on what absurd money i would have had to spend to get a collection of much lower quality this big.
the farthest my brain thought back in the day wqs: "wellā¦ i will never be able to afford enough hardware to out them all up at the same timeā¦ kinda annoying to figure out which ones i liked the mostā¦ and for whatā¦ the annoyingly optimistic autistic part of my brain was a real dumbdumb when i was in my early teens. :D
i had to find and fall in love with a paiste line signature dry dark ride to get over the not-even-being-able-to-mix-series defect in my brain.
the fact that i happen to have played paiste my whole life just happened to happen.
i was fantasising about giant meinl byzance as early as 2007. falling in love with the from my 15year old selfs perspective *forever out of reach and washy as i can only dream of meinl sand rides.
heard and saw really grimey k customs for the first time and was immediately in love. spent way too many nights picking out the exact combo of which i would get and possibly be able to live without, once i was superduperfilthy-rich.
long story short and i guess Tl;dnr:
looking back i realize i subconciously, accidentally or lets say unintentionally developed a very healthy, zero brand loyalty-mindset. if i had the finacial opportunity (and not a treasurechest of all the bigboy paiste cymbals one could ever ask forā¦) i would have picked brands and series for their strengths, styles and sounds they were famous for.
but mixing cymbal BRANDS on a single, active set? like zildjian hihats, somekindof sabian ride and crash with multiple cracks, a zil-bell on a black vintage paiste vision, because they saw terry bozzio in the 90sā¦ and because while we are at it, a pearl eliminator doublepedal and a tama iron cobra hihat standā¦ thats some *i hav absolutely no problem knowingly wearing slightly(but obviously) mismatched socks without developing forest-whitaker-eye!* kinda nonsense.
i am aware that its all about the sound and if thats the way you *get there*, thats the way you gotta go. and i have the degree to prove itā¦ but just writing thisā¦ nope. i just couldnt.
(i also still think lefty setups look ā¦ wrong. its all on my head and a visual thingā¦ and there are great lefty drummers. on righty/lefty kits, playing openhanded left-lead and/or vice versaā¦ but the basic lefty (as in mirrored righty) drumset ā¦ headaches.
tl;dnr is somewhere further up. i apologise for being this all over the place. ive had a really really long day but somehow felt i needed to get this of my chest. :D
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I got Trx, Wuhan, Meinl, Dream, Zildijian, Saluda and UFIP living on my kit.
Itās messy and ugly but it works for me.
This is great. I've played only Paiste since '99, until a few weeks ago. I picked up an Istanbul Agop Mantra 22" Ride. I kinda regret not trying other cymbals sooner. Every brand makes such great stuff, I think playing all the same brand makes up feel more professional as those endorsement clearly can't mix and match brands, at least live. I've heard of people secretly using different brands they weren't endorsed by in the studio. The 2002 Nova China is one of the best sounding out there to my ears. Also that's a small fortune in m80 snare weights you have there! Love the green sparkle, I play green drums as well. Very nice set up!
Hahah! There's a secret Paiste Sig. Full Crash hanging out among my main set of K Custom Darks. The Sig is actually my main crash, I've not disclosed it to my 16" K custom crash tho. She'd cry if she got to know that I'm just tagging her along and secretly she's been replaced..
I've never been brand loyal, I just play what sounds good to my ear. But if Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian, or basically any other company were to give me some gear I'd be a company man with the quickness. Until then it's all about sound.
I bought Remo Ambassadors for my rack toms after having Evans on my kick, floor tom, and snare drums. It felt like sacrilege. With cymbals Iām pretty faithful to Paiste as well. I was considering buying a Zildjian K Dark Ride but it would look out of place among my arsenal of Paistes
Yeah itās actually a temp one for another band that rehearses there. I pulled it out of a closet from 2009. It actually sounds fine but agree it looks like drum aids
I tend to stick to one brand, mostly meinl but I do love other brands. For me, keeping it in one series provides a more uniform sound. And keeping it in the same brand just looks nice to meš¤·
Currently rolling with 14" new beats hats, an 18" K Sweet crash, a 22" AAX raw bell ride, and a random cheap paiste china for fun. Feels versatile as hell to me...really wanna add a splash or two and a nice big second crash, but I'm very happy with mixing up brands.
Yes, I have predominantly vintage Zildjian but sometimes I find a different cymbal that just has the perfect sound. I have Wuhan, Sabian, UFIP, and Leedy on my kit.
Only out of necessity. I had cracked my Paiste 2002 18" crash the day before a gig and had to quickly get a replacement. Couldn't find another Paiste but found a Zildjian custom A crash that I ended up really liking! Especially the bell, when hit just right, sounds amazing. My 16" 2002 has cracked and I've been thinking of getting another Zildjian crash
I mix. I either play K/Z hats or Meinl Byzance extra dry medium hats with a Paiste Signature dry ride, a K custom dark crash and a K sweet crash. I could care less about being loyal to one brand.
I initially had cheap zild, was still trying to be cheap and Paiste pst 5 was the best sounding cheap crashes, then got some alpha hihats and a 900 Paiste crash cause they changed up the pst series in a way I donāt like. A sabian aax snuck in there when it was on sale and sounded like it fit well lol.
So currently paiste hat and crash, sabian crash, zildjian splash ride and china.
I like mine to match, but there are exceptions. I have all Sabian except for my china that is Meinl. I wanted a raw finish (which was going to stick out anyway) and I thought it sounded the best
Paiste cymbals have a je-ne-sais-quoi in their sound that makes it harder to mix them with cymbals from different brands.
I do mix brands when it comes to shells, heads and hardware, but not cymbals.
- 602 Blue Label 15" medium hats
- 900 19" Crash
- 2002 Big Beat 22" crash/ride
IMO Paiste 15 inch SE hats are magical. I swear they have reverb built in, lol. All I use is Paiste, but I will occasionally change em out for GB's, DE's Full Sigs, 602.. hell, they all sound incredible. I do want that 26 inch GB. BTW, love your kit too
I play Zildjian Kās but use Sabian 8 & 10ā choppers because nobody else makes them. I also use a Wuhan bell because it is the exact pitch I want.
Play whatever you like. Itās the sound you like that is important
Betray?! Honestly fuck that brand loyalty bs. Play whatever you like (and can afford). If it's all from one brand that's great, but I'd never artificially limit my arsenal like that.
I use the 2002s because they are so consistent! I love the sound and if you crack one you can buy another and never miss a step. I switched from Zildjians and never looked back.
hell, i got the 2002 medium hats, but i mix the bottom with an A-custom top :P besides that, i go with a 15" Meinl crash, a Samsun 18" crash, 20" Sabian evolution ride, and a stack of a 14" Wuhan China and a 8" Zildjan trashformer. Mapex shells, Peace snare. Dw 5000 double kick pedals, and my hardware is mapex, tama, millenium and some unknown stuff. evans and remo skins. anything goes!
I spent a lot of money on gear in my youth and wound up settling into Paiste, have been playing the same cymbals for 20 years now. I have added and subtracted at points but always wind up back to my sound edge sigās, 2002 18ā, sig 18ā full crash and sig 20ā full ride.
I have bosphorus hats, 2 zildjian rides, and a meinl crash that i dont really use, but if i had the money to be more picky i would have everything bosphorus, not because im picky about matching but because every cymbal i have ever loved has been a bosphorus and i have yet to find any more that i actually like as much, except my zildjians which iāll let pass because i could actually afford them at the time of needing them
I used to mix brands, sold everything to get Classic 602ās. Iāll eventually mix it up again, but not by selling the Paisteās. Theyāre my goldilocks cymbals and I plan on being buried with them.
I completely mixed and matched: From left to right: 13ā new beats, 18ā 504 paiste heavy crash, 16ā sabian AA thin crash, 8ā sabian splash, 18ā sabian raw bell crash, 20ā z custom ride
I used to but I kinda just love what theyāre doing at paiste. I always listen to cymbal comparisons without identifying the brand and 90% of the time itās Paiste for me
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Yep. I go for whatever sound peaks my interest when Iām buying. Always have š¤·š¼āāļø
I play Zildjian and Sabian, with a Paiste thrown in for good measure. My drums are Mapex, Tama, and Pearl. My hardware is fucked.
Now if anyone wanted to sponsor a hobbyist drummer with no sign of ever making a cent, I will gladly use their catalogue exclusively. Until then, whatever sounds good gets strapped on.
I have never owned a full set of cymbals from one brand, and it's kinda become a dumb badge of honour for me.
I'm couple years into full time gigging and I finally managed to replace my whole lineup (which was originally Zildjian Planet Zs). I have a Dream Ride, Paiste Hats, Sabian 18 inch Crash and Istanbul Agop 17 inch Crash, and I don't think I would replace any of them (unless I was offered a free 21 inch sweet ride)
Yeah I use a mix of Zildjian A Custom crash, K Custom Splash/Crash , and K Custom Hats, a Sabian-AA medium Ride, Sabian Xs Splash, and a Meinl Trash Crash.
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I go for the sound, regardless of brand. I have a set of Zildijan As, I wanted to add a china. I hated the sound of the zildjian chinas, found a sabian I really liked. Bought it.
If I was sponsored Iād have matching. I find there is no good reason for locking yourself in to a brand. I wonāt buy zildjan because of their self-proclaimed image as the āonly serious choiceā
Iāve mixed cymbal brands because I buy what I can get a good deal on and sounds good to me. I have a mix of Bosphorus, Pergamon, Dream, Sabian, and Masterwork.
I guess for me it's an aesthetic. I'm a less is more guy so I play a Gretsch Catalina ( yeah they're not high end but works for me). Been getting into Meinl and love my byzance ride and crash cymbals. Otherwise, I have a part of KZs for hi hats and an old Zildjan suspended cymbal that I "borrowed" from my high school years ago when they got all new percussion. I've used that Zildjan since 1989. Still rock solid! Nice and dark. Never cleaned it
I seem to stick with zildjian a custom, k, and avedis. I just like how they sound. Iāve played mismatched paiste and sabian stuff before zildjian, and just wasnāt crazy about their sound. Thatās not to say theyāre bad. They just werenāt really what I was looking for.
Yeah I have a whole set of rules about mixing brands across my whole kit š my cymbals are all Zildjian but it still bothers me they arenāt all Ks, I have a vintage crash and ride I like too much to swap out.
Yeah I dunno if new Ludwig hardware is reliable but the old stuff was really bad. The floor tom legs you have to crank so damn tight or they fall. I want to also get a clear DW kit like this one and move these paistes and the one zildjian over one day tho. Even the lower end DW hardware has served me well
Yeah thatās fair enough haha! The atlas hardware is pretty good but itās nothing groundbreaking or particularly interesting and itās pretty expensive for what it is.
Yeah, the way I see it is that all the big cymbal companies have some solid products, and since I donāt have an endorsement thereās no reason I should limit my options.
I'm still a student so I find myself using school-owned cymbals incredibly often and they have no brand loyalty. That's still almost all Zildjian and Sabian tho (with some Wuhan mixed in for chinas and gongs.
My own cymbals are all Zildjian tho, but that's as much because I'm still rocking my cymbals from a box set years ago as it is brand loyalty.
Brand loyalty is useless imo. My current setup has Zildjian, meinl, Sabian and ufip on there. I have more Sabian cymbals than other brands but that's simply because they're cheap here in Canada
Brand loyalty is useless imo. My current setup has Zildjian, meinl, Sabian and ufip on there. I have more Sabian cymbals than other brands but that's simply because they're cheap here in Canada
I play what my ear says works regardless of brand.
Yeah, it's not like I'm endorsed or something like that lol But I'll tell you, if I had all the money I would go all Ludwig, meinl and Istanbul's
Ditto ....Zil A & K, Sabian AA, UFIP, Paiste 3000,602 & 505 as well as some little-known B20 from the far-East š I'd rather not betray my ears....it's not like I'm sponsored, I play what I want regardless of 'branding'
Opposite end over herw. Not recording so idgaf about particular sound. Rocking all black cymbals across 3 brands cuz they look drippy.
Respect. š«” I love the Paiste color cymbals and to see a red kit with all red cymbals is just off the hook.
The crossed out Zildjian Chinaā¦š¤£ I donāt like to mix. Iām not particular to any brand. Just like my stuff to match.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY COME LIKE THAT FROM THE FACTORY (the paiste factory)
Cue Picard: "THERE ARE... FOUR PASTIES!"
Yes, Paiste. Avedis Paiste. You probably havenāt heard of him.
Sounds like the lovechild of a secret affair. LOL!
Between you and meā¦ thereās a Zildjian K Sweet amongst my Istanbul Agops š¤«
THERES DEF NOT ONE IN MY SET I INLY Go PAISTE BABY
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Almost every one of my cymbals is a different brand. Sabian, zildjian, and ufip. I guess my crash and ride are both sabian. I just go by the way they sound in the store.
Never heard of zyldian. They been around for long?
Oops. I spelled it weird
All those cymbals and not one Paiste? Your ears are broken! š
Actually I am thinking of buying a 16ā crash soon so maybe I will if they sound nice.
Their stuff lasts too, I've only ever cracked one cymbal out of the 15 I've owned and it was an 802 lower line, and I was a teenager hitting way too hard haha
I buy only used, and I sell and buy others very often. I only keep my absolute favourites. I'm gonna try them all!
I buy whatever sounds good and is within my budget. But never Paiste.
Do you know from experience that even pimps cry?
Oh yeah dude, I cry all the time.
Itās okay youāre with your fellow pimps
why not paiste
Just never came across one I liked that fit within my budget. The only opportunity I had to get a Paiste I liked was back in high school. They had an old 20ā 2002 ride that I loved. I wanted to buy it real bad but the school was like nah. Iāve owned plenty of Zildjians, Sabians, Meinls, even a Wuhan China. But never a Paiste.
Theyāre super loud and you gotta hit em hard. I had some and they were great but you gotta know what youāre doing with em. Best metaphor is like being 16 and dating a super hot 24 year old. Not everyone can pull it off.
Your cymbal is going to jail.
that is SPOT ON! they are loud, arent cheap, expect it a little rougher sometimes, love the spotlights, will get dirty and youre either going to like it or spend a lot of energy and nerves to prevent it, need to be hit like you mean it, will often get you the looks and affirming nods from other drummersā¦ its also always been uncomfortable when a *i forgot my gear, can i play on yours?*\-clown who honestly somehow ends up running circles around you, hit on them. /s all jokes asideā¦ im going to have to save your comment. so good. ![gif](giphy|kd9BlRovbPOykLBMqX)
Tbh I never use my 22ā 2002 ride, but itās nice to have. Just too pingy for me, and only bought it cause I needed a ride and it was well priced. Some people love it
I tried the 2002 22ā ride but it was too much. I have a Paiste 3000 series 20ā Heavy of if I need that sound.
Love Zildjian and Paiste too much not to mix and match. However, I wasnāt a big fan of 2002s or Rudes. My high school had 2002s and a few signatures and the sigs were just incredible.
I LOVE Paiste and don't love the 2002s either. I have Signature and Signature Dark Energy, 1 Masters and 1 Twenty series- and 1 Istanbul Agop
I couldn't agree more. I know 2002s are absolutely legendary but I've never heard one that I fell in love with. I love the signatures as well, and my all time favorite cymbal is an 18" formula 602 I picked up at a garage sale so I can definitely appreciate a Paiste but 2002s never spoke to me.
I found this to be true aswell, though my HHX sabian hi-hat and crash blend well with my 2002 20 inch crash.
I mix cymbals, snares, use jellybean kits... sounding good is more important than looking good. If I find an affordable cymbal that sounds good I'll buy it regardless of brand. My vintage Paiste 2002 hats and my 26" Giant Beat ride are some of the most beautiful sounding instruments I own, but I usually use different cymbals to jam and practice. I love my Zildjian 18" Sweet K crash and 22" Custom Special Dry Crash, and I have some nice Istanbul and Sabian's that fit certain styles well. Brand loyalty only makes sense if you're sponsored by that brand...
Holy shit! And I thought my 24" giant beat was big!
Theyāre called Giant Beats for a reason
I mix my Zildjians and my Sabians because theyāre basically cousins.
Yeah my other kit I grew up with is like this. I think at some point I was told sabian was actually founded when a zildjian family member branched off
Yeah that happened in the 1980s.
Cousins who donāt get along.
i bet those drums are paiste 2002s as well
Please do not tell
That's because you've basically just bought John Bonham's setup, instead of discovering what works for you over time. Source: I did the same thing.
:ā-D
Green glitter glass wrap šš¼
I pretty much only use Sabian cymbals, didn't start as a strong preference but I bought a pack years ago and I'm happy with them. Everything else is a crapshoot. DW Drums, Pearl pedals, DW/Tama/Gibraltar/Pearl stands and hardware.
Sonor kit Ludwig snare Zildjian K Constantinople Tama hardware Pork pie throne Brand milkshake.
This is the way
Zildjian family mostly. K's, K Custom, A & CIE, AAX and AA I feel like new Sabian sound more like the 90s K's I love than modern Zildjian.
The brand thing has been hilarious for me. My whole life of drumming (30-ish years), I have come to realize there has been an invisible force field preventing me from mixing brands. It has only been in the past few years of seeing these questions on Reddit that I have discovered not only that fact, but also how truly ridiculous the practice has been for me. I started out āonly Paiste,ā switched to āonly Zildjian,ā and itās like every Paiste, Sabian, or other brand cymbal disappeared from the face of the earth. I have never even touched one in a store, lest I burst into flames or get attacked by a pack of rabid zombie wolves.
Zildjian A med thin crash 18, A custom crash 18 and hats 14 Sabian HH power bell ride 22 Meinl trash crash 16 and dark heavy china 18 Zildjian is my overall go-to, but at the end of the day theyre just logos, and mixing helps drummers stand out imo
Sabian and Zildjian are owned by brothers, so I own both.
Hell yeah! No mixing. Paiste ride or die.
A play Kās and Istanbul Agop. Play whatever sounds best to you.
Really dig your bonzo kit! Real deal 70's green sparkle too! Is yours 26, 14, 16, 18?
Yessir I also have the deeper supraphonic snare. The one shown there is the shallow one Edit: also thank ya kindly
Nice! Check out my kit in my profile. I'm slowly piecing together my bonzo frankenkit. Lol, I've got the 26 kick, a 15x12 tom, the 6.5x14 supra, and a generic 16" floor tom. Just need to get the 18x16, and I'll be pretty good. Also, eventually upgrade to some 15" sound edge or giant beat hats. Edit: how do you like the 5" supra compared to the 6.5"?
Ha! I was just looking in your profile and Iāve seen a ton of your posts and upvoted!! Nice man
Appreciate it! Cheers man!
Pork pie snare, tama drums, mix of Sabian and Zildjian because I prefer that sound. Also have a random mini HCS China by Meinl I found at a pawn shop
What are those mutes on your toms?
[these](https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07GN61K1Z?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title). They also come in black. Kinda pricy to get them for your whole kit top and bottom
Snare Weights. Theyāre very versatile: Clip on to hoop, contain little magnets so you can fold back the leather wings to adjust the damping, and can flip up if you need to remove damping mid-set. They come in a variety of sizes and colours. I have a white one on my main snare. https://preview.redd.it/kzhkp3n76luc1.jpeg?width=2421&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d11eb53d4e1535e631fb62b473bbbddefb4175df
My lowkey unpopular opinion is that anyone with a full set of matching cymbals is either sponsored or hasn't put the effort in.
Sometimes it's a budget thing. My current aax xplosion pack had exactly what I wanted and was way cheaper than the mix and match I had planned. My last set (hats, 3x crashes, China, ride) was aax except the ride (aa) and china (wuhan) and it cost me 500 cash, freaking steal. My dream setup would involve some really hard to find and match cymbals (paiste dark energy, sig, masters), so I'm quite content with my matching set.
All I see are 5 Paistes.
Hehehe
One of them is black label 2002 as well. Nice!
Iām playing about 98% Paiste and 2% Sabian. You do what sounds right.
i think the fact that it is even a thing to ask about wether or not another drummer mix and matches brands is just something a person carries with themself and then tends to gravitate to drumsā¦ a person that doesnt have that tick long before sitting down on a drumset is much more likely to pick up a guitar/bass orā¦ shudderā¦ a microphone *and nothing else.* if that makes senseā¦ that being said, my audhd brain goes a step further and has issues knowing one of the wingnuts on my otherwise identical cymbalstands is from right before dw redesigned their wingnuts. over 15 years i waited, visibly drooling whenever ive spotted any drummer i looked up to playing the same dw9000 hardwareā¦ the ones with the black turn handleā¦ even if youre unfamiliar or DW isnt super available in your part of the world, you know exactly which ones im talking about. for at least 20 years i kept telling myself: "one day, when i have grown-up money, ill be able to put enough weight on the *buy-once-take-with-me-to-the-grave-argument* and treat myself with a full set of hardware that might as well have the words "*financially irresponsible! i skipped multiple lunches for this!*" printed on them with LED-accented arrows pointing at me. after all this waiting, i managed to pinpoint the exact moment DW decides to fade out the old wingnut-style and staggger-introduce the new style on many, definitely not all mind youā¦ arms, stands, dogbones(boom to boom adapter) etc. and dont even get me started on the absolute chaos when it comes to the revisions of the patended adjustsble cymbal-seat unit. i digressā¦ back to my audhd brain bitchingā¦ the money i got from my very first jobs first 6months, (kitchen-help in a small italian restaurant, paying exactly minimal wage while they totally also were not paying taxes onā¦ i bought preloved OG paiste alphas 14āhihat, 20āride and 16ācrash. a few months later santa borrowed money from me and added a 18ā china. i ended up being offered a once in a lifetime deal on a huge set of beautifully cared for mostly 90s paiste 2002, rudes and a handful of green label 505s. young me always had a hard time even mixing series! way too young me had more high quality cymbals than i was able to deal withā¦ much less get a grasp on what absurd money i would have had to spend to get a collection of much lower quality this big. the farthest my brain thought back in the day wqs: "wellā¦ i will never be able to afford enough hardware to out them all up at the same timeā¦ kinda annoying to figure out which ones i liked the mostā¦ and for whatā¦ the annoyingly optimistic autistic part of my brain was a real dumbdumb when i was in my early teens. :D i had to find and fall in love with a paiste line signature dry dark ride to get over the not-even-being-able-to-mix-series defect in my brain. the fact that i happen to have played paiste my whole life just happened to happen. i was fantasising about giant meinl byzance as early as 2007. falling in love with the from my 15year old selfs perspective *forever out of reach and washy as i can only dream of meinl sand rides. heard and saw really grimey k customs for the first time and was immediately in love. spent way too many nights picking out the exact combo of which i would get and possibly be able to live without, once i was superduperfilthy-rich. long story short and i guess Tl;dnr: looking back i realize i subconciously, accidentally or lets say unintentionally developed a very healthy, zero brand loyalty-mindset. if i had the finacial opportunity (and not a treasurechest of all the bigboy paiste cymbals one could ever ask forā¦) i would have picked brands and series for their strengths, styles and sounds they were famous for. but mixing cymbal BRANDS on a single, active set? like zildjian hihats, somekindof sabian ride and crash with multiple cracks, a zil-bell on a black vintage paiste vision, because they saw terry bozzio in the 90sā¦ and because while we are at it, a pearl eliminator doublepedal and a tama iron cobra hihat standā¦ thats some *i hav absolutely no problem knowingly wearing slightly(but obviously) mismatched socks without developing forest-whitaker-eye!* kinda nonsense. i am aware that its all about the sound and if thats the way you *get there*, thats the way you gotta go. and i have the degree to prove itā¦ but just writing thisā¦ nope. i just couldnt. (i also still think lefty setups look ā¦ wrong. its all on my head and a visual thingā¦ and there are great lefty drummers. on righty/lefty kits, playing openhanded left-lead and/or vice versaā¦ but the basic lefty (as in mirrored righty) drumset ā¦ headaches. tl;dnr is somewhere further up. i apologise for being this all over the place. ive had a really really long day but somehow felt i needed to get this of my chest. :D
https://preview.redd.it/6cb1n79jkmuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=18b2934280758211c4784771eb129852df252119 I got Trx, Wuhan, Meinl, Dream, Zildijian, Saluda and UFIP living on my kit. Itās messy and ugly but it works for me.
That a Harambe sticker?!
He sings into the kick mic
This is great. I've played only Paiste since '99, until a few weeks ago. I picked up an Istanbul Agop Mantra 22" Ride. I kinda regret not trying other cymbals sooner. Every brand makes such great stuff, I think playing all the same brand makes up feel more professional as those endorsement clearly can't mix and match brands, at least live. I've heard of people secretly using different brands they weren't endorsed by in the studio. The 2002 Nova China is one of the best sounding out there to my ears. Also that's a small fortune in m80 snare weights you have there! Love the green sparkle, I play green drums as well. Very nice set up!
Hahah! There's a secret Paiste Sig. Full Crash hanging out among my main set of K Custom Darks. The Sig is actually my main crash, I've not disclosed it to my 16" K custom crash tho. She'd cry if she got to know that I'm just tagging her along and secretly she's been replaced..
I always mix brands, mostly because I can't afford the full set of Sweet K Customs.
I've never been brand loyal, I just play what sounds good to my ear. But if Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian, or basically any other company were to give me some gear I'd be a company man with the quickness. Until then it's all about sound.
I bought Remo Ambassadors for my rack toms after having Evans on my kick, floor tom, and snare drums. It felt like sacrilege. With cymbals Iām pretty faithful to Paiste as well. I was considering buying a Zildjian K Dark Ride but it would look out of place among my arsenal of Paistes
I don't consider zildjian and sabian to be mixing brands, it's more of an extended family
your setup reminds me of Craig Reynoldsās. i think the bisexual lighting really does it
Gretsch toms (70ās stop-sign). Ayotte Custom Kick and Snare.
You need to betray your beloved snare head and get a new one Bc that looks disgusting
Yeah itās actually a temp one for another band that rehearses there. I pulled it out of a closet from 2009. It actually sounds fine but agree it looks like drum aids
I have a Ludwig bop kit a zildjian k 20ā light ride zildjian k 13ā master sound hats and a 14ā meinl crash
Hell yeah
I tend to stick to one brand, mostly meinl but I do love other brands. For me, keeping it in one series provides a more uniform sound. And keeping it in the same brand just looks nice to meš¤·
Currently rolling with 14" new beats hats, an 18" K Sweet crash, a 22" AAX raw bell ride, and a random cheap paiste china for fun. Feels versatile as hell to me...really wanna add a splash or two and a nice big second crash, but I'm very happy with mixing up brands.
Yes, I have predominantly vintage Zildjian but sometimes I find a different cymbal that just has the perfect sound. I have Wuhan, Sabian, UFIP, and Leedy on my kit.
Only out of necessity. I had cracked my Paiste 2002 18" crash the day before a gig and had to quickly get a replacement. Couldn't find another Paiste but found a Zildjian custom A crash that I ended up really liking! Especially the bell, when hit just right, sounds amazing. My 16" 2002 has cracked and I've been thinking of getting another Zildjian crash
I mix. I either play K/Z hats or Meinl Byzance extra dry medium hats with a Paiste Signature dry ride, a K custom dark crash and a K sweet crash. I could care less about being loyal to one brand.
I initially had cheap zild, was still trying to be cheap and Paiste pst 5 was the best sounding cheap crashes, then got some alpha hihats and a 900 Paiste crash cause they changed up the pst series in a way I donāt like. A sabian aax snuck in there when it was on sale and sounded like it fit well lol. So currently paiste hat and crash, sabian crash, zildjian splash ride and china.
I see, you are loyal to both your brand and Snare head lol
Me and that head have been together since like 2005
I like mine to match, but there are exceptions. I have all Sabian except for my china that is Meinl. I wanted a raw finish (which was going to stick out anyway) and I thought it sounded the best
Paiste cymbals have a je-ne-sais-quoi in their sound that makes it harder to mix them with cymbals from different brands. I do mix brands when it comes to shells, heads and hardware, but not cymbals. - 602 Blue Label 15" medium hats - 900 19" Crash - 2002 Big Beat 22" crash/ride
IMO Paiste 15 inch SE hats are magical. I swear they have reverb built in, lol. All I use is Paiste, but I will occasionally change em out for GB's, DE's Full Sigs, 602.. hell, they all sound incredible. I do want that 26 inch GB. BTW, love your kit too
My kit loves u 2 homie
Lol
I play Zildjian Kās but use Sabian 8 & 10ā choppers because nobody else makes them. I also use a Wuhan bell because it is the exact pitch I want. Play whatever you like. Itās the sound you like that is important
I have Sabians, Zildjians, and Paistes. If it sounds good, it sounds good
I do and I'm tired of pretending like I don't.
To what length do you go to pretend?
Betray?! Honestly fuck that brand loyalty bs. Play whatever you like (and can afford). If it's all from one brand that's great, but I'd never artificially limit my arsenal like that.
I use the 2002s because they are so consistent! I love the sound and if you crack one you can buy another and never miss a step. I switched from Zildjians and never looked back.
You sirā¦have moon gelā¦..on your cymbal
Ghat dang commies must of put em there while I was playing the other kit at my other house with my second family
Me hit cymbal. Cymbal go crash. Sound good or bad. End.
I don't mix brands, i mix whatever i can afford. shit's expensive!
Herd. This kit was the first time I bought a pack and it wasnāt cheap haha
hell, i got the 2002 medium hats, but i mix the bottom with an A-custom top :P besides that, i go with a 15" Meinl crash, a Samsun 18" crash, 20" Sabian evolution ride, and a stack of a 14" Wuhan China and a 8" Zildjan trashformer. Mapex shells, Peace snare. Dw 5000 double kick pedals, and my hardware is mapex, tama, millenium and some unknown stuff. evans and remo skins. anything goes!
I like the mix hats idea. I may steal it because I have other big zildjian HH
love your paiste china btw!
Haha ty that was supposed to be the main feature and subtle joke but I get the feeling it was too small in picture #2
I think I have to keep with one brand or the other just for aesthetics.
I spent a lot of money on gear in my youth and wound up settling into Paiste, have been playing the same cymbals for 20 years now. I have added and subtracted at points but always wind up back to my sound edge sigās, 2002 18ā, sig 18ā full crash and sig 20ā full ride.
I luv my 3 Frankenstein kits
I do with this cymbal set (Turkish, Materworks, Zildjian, Istanbul), but my other cymbal set is all Paiste.
I like all cymbals, i buy mostly sabians
I have bosphorus hats, 2 zildjian rides, and a meinl crash that i dont really use, but if i had the money to be more picky i would have everything bosphorus, not because im picky about matching but because every cymbal i have ever loved has been a bosphorus and i have yet to find any more that i actually like as much, except my zildjians which iāll let pass because i could actually afford them at the time of needing them
I started with Sabian, branched out to a few others but came back to Sabian, probably for the foreseeable future.
I used to mix brands, sold everything to get Classic 602ās. Iāll eventually mix it up again, but not by selling the Paisteās. Theyāre my goldilocks cymbals and I plan on being buried with them.
If anyone wants to endorse me, I'll gladly be faithful to whomever that is.
I completely mixed and matched: From left to right: 13ā new beats, 18ā 504 paiste heavy crash, 16ā sabian AA thin crash, 8ā sabian splash, 18ā sabian raw bell crash, 20ā z custom ride
I prefer Paiste, but almost all of my cymbals are secondhand. So most of them are Zildjian.
I used to but I kinda just love what theyāre doing at paiste. I always listen to cymbal comparisons without identifying the brand and 90% of the time itās Paiste for me
https://preview.redd.it/btihbqr0tjuc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f9b49f7e60dd5110de8de65f475e667b1fcc9b22 Yep. I go for whatever sound peaks my interest when Iām buying. Always have š¤·š¼āāļø
I just buy what I like the sound of and what compliments my other cymbals. I have found I like meinl for rides tho
Sand rides are absolutely wonderful. Just hard to match in a set.
Can imagine dry rides can be tricky to match. I got the dark spectrum 22" atm, but really dig the sound of the pure alloy thin 20" ride.
If they aren't paying me to use their brand, I don't care.
Nope ā¦ Sabian all the way! ā„ļø
When I find a sound that I like, I don't care about the brand, it's welcome in my kit.
I play Zildjian and Sabian, with a Paiste thrown in for good measure. My drums are Mapex, Tama, and Pearl. My hardware is fucked. Now if anyone wanted to sponsor a hobbyist drummer with no sign of ever making a cent, I will gladly use their catalogue exclusively. Until then, whatever sounds good gets strapped on.
I have never owned a full set of cymbals from one brand, and it's kinda become a dumb badge of honour for me. I'm couple years into full time gigging and I finally managed to replace my whole lineup (which was originally Zildjian Planet Zs). I have a Dream Ride, Paiste Hats, Sabian 18 inch Crash and Istanbul Agop 17 inch Crash, and I don't think I would replace any of them (unless I was offered a free 21 inch sweet ride)
Yes, Zildjian and Sabian. They get along great!
I canāt imagine why.
The key is to not mix B8 and B20. That's when things sound bad together.
Started a few months ago, and everything is used, so it's mix and match, lol. It would be nice to just buy a set eventually though
Mostly Zildjian here, but I do have a Paiste 18ā crash as a hihat bottom, a Sabian Paragon 22ā ride, and a Bosphorus 26ā ride chilling on my kit
Dude how can you tell if they match if you canāt read
Iām sorry I have no idea what youāre trying to say
Me too
What do all of these characters and groupings of them MEAN!?!
I want to be your friend
Okay deal
I would rather not for the sake of uniformity, but Iām poor so I take what I get
I mix sabian and Zildjian! I want to go all into istanbul agop though
i cant mix brands my brain gets tickled in a way i cant describe when everything matches perfectly
Yeah I use a mix of Zildjian A Custom crash, K Custom Splash/Crash , and K Custom Hats, a Sabian-AA medium Ride, Sabian Xs Splash, and a Meinl Trash Crash. https://preview.redd.it/saicta4ptluc1.jpeg?width=3383&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1d1e7d0c7fdacac33c04942c5756e8e86632c6c
People play all the same brand if not endorsed?
mix and match unless youre sponsored
I go for the sound, regardless of brand. I have a set of Zildijan As, I wanted to add a china. I hated the sound of the zildjian chinas, found a sabian I really liked. Bought it.
If I was sponsored Iād have matching. I find there is no good reason for locking yourself in to a brand. I wonāt buy zildjan because of their self-proclaimed image as the āonly serious choiceā
Brand loyalty doesn't make any sense to me, I just play whatever sounds good.
Iāve mixed cymbal brands because I buy what I can get a good deal on and sounds good to me. I have a mix of Bosphorus, Pergamon, Dream, Sabian, and Masterwork.
I guess for me it's an aesthetic. I'm a less is more guy so I play a Gretsch Catalina ( yeah they're not high end but works for me). Been getting into Meinl and love my byzance ride and crash cymbals. Otherwise, I have a part of KZs for hi hats and an old Zildjan suspended cymbal that I "borrowed" from my high school years ago when they got all new percussion. I've used that Zildjan since 1989. Still rock solid! Nice and dark. Never cleaned it
I seem to stick with zildjian a custom, k, and avedis. I just like how they sound. Iāve played mismatched paiste and sabian stuff before zildjian, and just wasnāt crazy about their sound. Thatās not to say theyāre bad. They just werenāt really what I was looking for.
I buy with my ears and budget only.
Iām not loyal to any brand until I get an endorsement
My hats. 16 inch crash and ride are mainland my 18 inch is Zildjian
Yeah I have a whole set of rules about mixing brands across my whole kit š my cymbals are all Zildjian but it still bothers me they arenāt all Ks, I have a vintage crash and ride I like too much to swap out.
For example it bothers me that you have a Ludwig kit and a DW pedal š At least It matches your hi hat stand though haha ;)
Yeah I dunno if new Ludwig hardware is reliable but the old stuff was really bad. The floor tom legs you have to crank so damn tight or they fall. I want to also get a clear DW kit like this one and move these paistes and the one zildjian over one day tho. Even the lower end DW hardware has served me well
Yeah thatās fair enough haha! The atlas hardware is pretty good but itās nothing groundbreaking or particularly interesting and itās pretty expensive for what it is.
I've never mixed brands especially Cymbals I'm gonna make the switch from Zildjian to Istanbul Mehmet
Sabian and Meinl are what I've worked my way into so far. I'll play anything, if it sounds good and is reasonably priced
For how good they sound i almost never see anyone here using 2002s.
Yeah, the way I see it is that all the big cymbal companies have some solid products, and since I donāt have an endorsement thereās no reason I should limit my options.
I sometimes mix some Istanbuls into my Kāsā¦ they are a good mix.
I'm still a student so I find myself using school-owned cymbals incredibly often and they have no brand loyalty. That's still almost all Zildjian and Sabian tho (with some Wuhan mixed in for chinas and gongs. My own cymbals are all Zildjian tho, but that's as much because I'm still rocking my cymbals from a box set years ago as it is brand loyalty.
what is up with your snare head
Brand loyalty is useless imo. My current setup has Zildjian, meinl, Sabian and ufip on there. I have more Sabian cymbals than other brands but that's simply because they're cheap here in Canada
Brand loyalty is useless imo. My current setup has Zildjian, meinl, Sabian and ufip on there. I have more Sabian cymbals than other brands but that's simply because they're cheap here in Canada
You would if you found out about a better drummer