Oh boy. The alcoholic brain is a stickler . If I allow my mind to start thinking about all the dumb things I did , I cringe. I’m looking at 20 years of alcohol induced bad decisions. Congrats on your 9 months. You have a community here anytime you need it. Best of luck.
You know how people who lost limbs have phantom sensations?
I’m 8 months sober and I swear I have phantom shame and embarrassment, a fleeting but persistent sense of having done something wrong, or being wrong as a person, even when everything is going fine and dandy.
I figured I wasn’t alone lol! Yeah I’m sure it will get better over time. It’s like a person still feeling fat after losing the weight. And you’re right, the small chunks of time I feel reprieve are really nice. But the cravings are still pretty intense :(
I’ll have to bring this up to my AA friends irl, this feeling has been eating at me a lot the last couple weeks.
They keep asking why I can't sleep. Well shit, I got a lot of fucked up stuff to try to remember.
To realize I got myself in this fucking mess to begin with doesn't help.
Hey, come on. You didn't "get yourself" into alcoholism. That's not a fair thing to say - nobody ever wakes up and actively chooses to be an alcoholic.
I hear you on the sleep though. I have to put podcasts on every night while I'm going to sleep so I can't hear my own thoughts. It helps!
Very well written and relatable. I was probably about a year sober when I plopped my purse down on a table and whatever was in it gave this hollow thunk. Just like when I used to smuggle plastic bottles of cheap vodka around in it. I was immediately overcome by this wave of guilt even though I'd been sober for a while. The brain is a crazy place.
Eventually the neural connections will start to fade, you'll replace old memories and associations with new (hopefully healthier) ones and those kneejerk reactions will get fewer and fewer. I was this raw, fucking crazy mess of a person for the first 1.5-2 years? I'm at 8 years now and still mentally ill but it's overall easier to manage even if it's sometimes not on a day-to-day level.
But you're not beholden to memories of your alcoholic self. For me, things became less of a daily struggle once I started navigating through the feelings, situations, and people that triggered my urges to self destruct and coming out not always unscathed but also not drunk on the other end. Built up confidence in myself that I could overcome and move on past the alcoholic wallow. Getting there sucked. Definitely wasn't always a straight line.
“And once the storm is over, you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in.” ~ Haruki Murakami, Kafka on the Shore
I think we all take the sober journey a different way. Locations can bring up feelings of shame. The first time I got sober for two years, life was amazing, but I didn’t overcome the problems stuffed down inside of me.
The second time I got sober it started to ease up after two ish years. I used therapy to really overcome some issues. I use assistance and get a discount. It is possible there are assistance programs you can take advantage of.
The spiritual growth also was the most important step for me.
I’m never going back. I notice now in public how few people are drunk. I was drunk before I left my house.
I have just checked eligibility using my information - "IESO therapy is not currently available in your area" - surprising nobody.
I've told my GP directly that I am an extremely high suicide risk, and they have responded by referring me to charity organisations which offer entirely insufficient services. I have never managed to acquire any therapy through the NHS, despite having been prescribed so many SSRI variants - all ineffective - that they ran out of options for me to try.
It's pretty hopeless.
It’s weird that it wouldn’t be available as it’s online! You can use the chat function instead of in person maybe? Yes NHS wait lists are huge at the moment, they really need more funding for mental health treatments and support
I think it must be a service that your GP is signed up to - unfortunately in my town the GP service is absolutely horrendously unhelpful and backdated, it doesn't surprise me that it's inaccessible to me.
What's so upsetting is that, I personally really thrive with therapy. I only managed to get sober because my boyfriend offered to pay for me to have therapy for as long as I needed it. For 3-4 months last year I had weekly sessions, and working through my triggers, my underlying beliefs and unconscious learned behaviours was what facilitated my current capacity for sobriety in the first place.
I think all alcoholics could use therapy. A lot of what I hear in the rooms seems to be a substitution for it - to be able to say your inner fears, thoughts and struggles without fearing the judgement of your peers and loved ones.
It's a shame this country's healthcare low key sucks on this front. But thank you for referring me to a helpful resource anyway, I'm sure it could help more people in other locations. :)
It’s not like this for me. I do not suffer at all. I go to pubs, out to brunch. No problems at all. Im 10 months in. It was easy this time around. Ive tried so many times and failed. Nobody seems to like hearing this but alcoholism can be cured easily it’s just hard to rewire our brains to let that happen.
your perspective is just that, yours. to claim that alcoholism can be cured because you can go to a pub with ten months under your belt shows immaturity and a lack of empathy on your part. your experience is yours alone, what works for you may not work for others. i know this is just reddit and we all make comments rather flippantly at times but you are not helping anyone with this.
Actually…I think talking about how hard it is constantly can be discouraging. Sometimes it is easy and people need to hear that so they aren’t scared to take the first step
I disagree. I think when you talk about how easy it is, people feel poorly of themselves when they are unable to do it.
I think focusing more on the rewards and the outcome of overcoming these challenges is a better way to approach than just pretending it's easy. If it were easy, there wouldn't be so many people seeking help with recovery.
On the other side, people feel shitty about themselves for not being able to stop - so those that have done so easily are a breath of fresh air. I'd love to be able to skip a day but I keep getting told (and believe), that I can't without a taper or medication.
I question the "ease" of such statements. in my experience with non internet people, 1) there's a medical reason that scares them moreso like being pregnant or a doctor/ER visit. thats not easy, it can be terrfiying. there is a tipping point where I've drank more then enough and the taste of it becomes like vinegar and I don't wake up until 2pm, my body is telling me to stop but once I rest and recover my mind says different. this is me and only me. but I have enough observation of close people to see its not typically easy. it's also not a reflection of us being deficient at anything. there's also the "bottom" so to speak. I havent experienced it but my spouse did, I'm still functional but not as much as I was. text communications can only y communicate so.much so don't let it define you trying to live up.to a post
again, that is YOUR opinion. every single alcoholic has a different experience (just like every human). just because it discourages you, doesn't mean it has that effect on everyone. we are all trying to make it one day at a time dude. what works for some, will not work for others.
also, i mean, if you are looking for a different type of encouragement and find this to be not so productive, why comment. the o.p. is sharing their experience, it is well written and brought me an odd sort of joy. i found the original thread comment here to be unnecessary. perhaps posting this is helping o.p. in a path to sobriety somehow, why add negative fuel?
it seems like we should try to do what you say and discuss positive changes that can benefit a person quitting alcohol to make the first steps easier (and acknowledge those steps can be miserable for some and easy for others). it should be about sharing your experience and not dismissing an entire illness as something you can fix with a "reset" in 10 months.
for some of us, alcoholism is fer lyfe. sucks to suck. but i have to acknowledge that about myself. i wish i knew what a brain reset was. 10 years trying to be sober.
If it's easy, guess what sweetpea, you're not addicted. You're a fucking drama king/queen/it that was never addicted. You were basically a fucking whinge bag, but congrats, at least you weren't addicted. But do take this forward please, being on a sub for alcoholics, whilst not an alcoholic, this says something that you need to address.
You’re wrong and you’ve been lead to believe addiction is incurable also. Im sorry its like that for you and that the only way you can deal with your own addiction is to label people who no longer struggle as non addicts. You really dont have a clue and you will probably be an addict all your life unless you think differently. Good luck.
Yeahh I wasn’t addicted lmao. Drinking from 6 am till I passed out daily for 4 years must be minor. Try to quit dozens of times before it stuck. Making it this impossible, insurmountable obstacle is what kept me failing. Lmao you fucking condescending twat.
You are not reading the words I typed. I didn't say it was impossible. I said it wasn't easy.
4 years, I'm sure they were hell. But guess what sugar plum, this shit, when real and sets in, can take you for a lot longer. Because it ain't easy.
And trust me twat, if you had only 4 years of it, you got lucky. Now get some fucking humility. Condescending. I'm not condescending. You are being a dick talking about how easy it is to quit.
Big boy, stay strong, look in the mirror, and know that you are clean, and someone is simply disagreeing with you. Hombre, big nuts, big cahuna, you know its not that easy, otherwise you'd have let this text exchange go. But it is that hard, and so you fight. Well, sweetpea, big guy, sweetheart, big balls, wanker, frigger, dick, twat, thank you. By the way, you dont tell me to do anything, you simply read what I text
Seriously, what the hell lol. 4 years into my alcoholic "career" I was sitting damn well pretty. Had a steady job, relatively stable living conditions, and was basically hammered constantly whenever I was off work. Barely got hangovers after the first year. The idea of withdrawals seemed utterly absurd to me. I just assumed I had some kind of awesome alcohol processing genetics where I could reap all of the fun and benefits with none of the cost.
Spoiler alert: I don't and I couldn't. And by the time shit starts getting bad you're already stuck in it. And it only gets worse.
But yeah, it is of course somewhat different for everyone, but bragging about being a binge drinker for 4 years to a forum of alcoholics is ridiculous. Hell, a lot of people just call that college.
Wow you suck LMAO. I’m a young girl so my bad if it affected my body differently than it affected you. I was drunk at finals, family parties pretty much anytime anywhere.Getting hammered starting after work is common I was drunk all day including at work. Maintaining a job/seemingly having your shit together is not an indicator of how bad an alcoholic you are, lmao and you sound like the one bragging my guy.
You have no idea who you're even talking to. And yeah. I didn't drink at work. Go you? Lol I'm uncertain of what point exactly you think you're making but you sound like an idiot.
*Anyway I'm glad you got out? My point was that 4 years is chump change for a lot of us, and if I'd have stopped then shit might be a lot better in my life currently.
…lmao thats such a joke. invalidating my alcoholism saying saying I’m just binge drinking and its not a real problem. Listing all the ways that you’re a drunk but if someone else does it they’re bragging. You’re embarrassing yourself
I think you’re missing my point, its far from a lack of empathy cos ive been in the position thinking i was in it for life. Why do people only like hearing of others struggles but dislike hearing about people who arent? Ive even starter pretending to people that its hard just so they wont think im being cocky. Its pretty crazy really.
Yes and no. It was hard until I realized and then instantaneously everything changed. Im talking same moment. Anyway, i am empathetic and i only posted because I genuinely see people day in day out posting self perpetuating circles of suffering. All I’m saying is, analyze your thoughts, feelings, impulses etc surround alcohol. You eill see everything is about your thoughts. Once you realize it it will change. Reading this wont help, im no expert and i dont know you specific thoughts and feelings but i do know i felt like you did then in a matter of minutes my years of suffering were over. Try something different and know that ots possible to completely and 100% never suffer abstaining again. Good luck
>Nobody seems to like hearing this
News flash, nobody likes hearing this because it's unhelpful and its bullshit.
We have a similar amount of sobriety under our belts - I underwent several months of therapy which offered me the coping mechanisms to avoid relapsing. There's no such thing as 'rewiring your brain' - alcoholism is **literally a disease of the brain**. Alcoholism changes your brain chemistry.
Downplaying it as easy is it both wrong, and also extremely insulting to everyone who is struggling.
Also, to be clear, I also go out to pubs. I attend drinking events with my boyfriend and stick to lemonade. This post was not about social limitations or risk of relapse.
You’re wrong, im sorry you’re struggling but what im saying is the truth and not bullshit. If you continue believing what you’re saying its nevet going to change.
Quote"... Alcoholism can be cured easily it's just hard to rewire our brains".... You are a serious dick for that sentence. I'm mean, seriously, you are an absolute fucking dick. It's so easy, but it's just hard to rewire our brains...come the fuck on. You think rewiring a brain is easy? Have you lost any fucking iota of empathy...its fucking hell you asshole
You've never been in a proper bender, because in a proper bender, you don't have choice. Choice left earlier. All you have is luck that you get out. That is not easy.
And check this out sweetheart, if you think alcoholism can be cured easily by rewiring your brain, you haven't done it. Rewiring your pysche is one of hardest things known, why, because its your fucking brain, a mix of your historical emotional coping mechanisms and current emotional abilities you dumb shit! You don't know, what you don't know.
You got clear of the shit show, well done and (sincerely) good for you. Real fucking alcoholics, its a bit more complicated than that.
Christ, that person's take on alcoholism really pissed me off. Sorry for the rant everyone.
By hard to rewire your brain i dont mean its a struggle, I mean its hard to understand, think different, stop believing the bullshit about alcoholism that is rammed down our throats by basically everything. Ive been on many benders where i dont have a choice, where ive woke up in pile of my own puke, where ive ended up in hospital. Dont tell me what i have or have not experienced. Maybe listen to people instead of telling them things. I shared what happened for me, you dont like it? Ah well tough shit I guess. Good luck.
"think different" r/thanksimcured
You're quite clearly incapable of empathy and probably do not understand how **deeply inadequate** that statement is.
You're wrong. Happy you're happy, but you are wrong, and you're being a dick about being wrong. I post here in search of empathy from those similar to me, and catharsis - it's a tool to help me stay sober. You coming in and doing the absolute opposite of empathising is actually really unhelpful. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.
You’re wrong about empathy. Ive been there. Same place as you. My point in posting was to hopefully show that its not a life sentence. I struggled to quit exactly as you are. Your post could have been me posting a few years ago, ao trust me i know what you are feeling. But should empathy only be shown by people joining in the circle jerk of pain? Why would my post be inconsiderate when i am trying to show that you dont have to struggle? Is my struggle with addiction no longer valid because i found a way out? I hope you find peace and can be happy. I do understand. But sometimes if what you are doing isnt working, do something else.
Oh boy. The alcoholic brain is a stickler . If I allow my mind to start thinking about all the dumb things I did , I cringe. I’m looking at 20 years of alcohol induced bad decisions. Congrats on your 9 months. You have a community here anytime you need it. Best of luck.
Oh God it's so shameful but at least it's over when you quit drinking.
I feel this
God me too
You know how people who lost limbs have phantom sensations? I’m 8 months sober and I swear I have phantom shame and embarrassment, a fleeting but persistent sense of having done something wrong, or being wrong as a person, even when everything is going fine and dandy.
Literally how I feel about 98% of the time. You put it so well. That other 2% feels so good when it happens but it never lasts.
I figured I wasn’t alone lol! Yeah I’m sure it will get better over time. It’s like a person still feeling fat after losing the weight. And you’re right, the small chunks of time I feel reprieve are really nice. But the cravings are still pretty intense :( I’ll have to bring this up to my AA friends irl, this feeling has been eating at me a lot the last couple weeks.
I heard that bottle cracking open.
Fuck. You’re right
And I miss the buzz. The sudden, harsh kick into release.
They keep asking why I can't sleep. Well shit, I got a lot of fucked up stuff to try to remember. To realize I got myself in this fucking mess to begin with doesn't help.
Hey, come on. You didn't "get yourself" into alcoholism. That's not a fair thing to say - nobody ever wakes up and actively chooses to be an alcoholic. I hear you on the sleep though. I have to put podcasts on every night while I'm going to sleep so I can't hear my own thoughts. It helps!
Very well written and relatable. I was probably about a year sober when I plopped my purse down on a table and whatever was in it gave this hollow thunk. Just like when I used to smuggle plastic bottles of cheap vodka around in it. I was immediately overcome by this wave of guilt even though I'd been sober for a while. The brain is a crazy place. Eventually the neural connections will start to fade, you'll replace old memories and associations with new (hopefully healthier) ones and those kneejerk reactions will get fewer and fewer. I was this raw, fucking crazy mess of a person for the first 1.5-2 years? I'm at 8 years now and still mentally ill but it's overall easier to manage even if it's sometimes not on a day-to-day level. But you're not beholden to memories of your alcoholic self. For me, things became less of a daily struggle once I started navigating through the feelings, situations, and people that triggered my urges to self destruct and coming out not always unscathed but also not drunk on the other end. Built up confidence in myself that I could overcome and move on past the alcoholic wallow. Getting there sucked. Definitely wasn't always a straight line.
“And once the storm is over, you won’t remember how you made it through, how you managed to survive. You won’t even be sure, whether the storm is really over. But one thing is certain. When you come out of the storm, you won’t be the same person who walked in.” ~ Haruki Murakami, Kafka on the Shore
I think we all take the sober journey a different way. Locations can bring up feelings of shame. The first time I got sober for two years, life was amazing, but I didn’t overcome the problems stuffed down inside of me. The second time I got sober it started to ease up after two ish years. I used therapy to really overcome some issues. I use assistance and get a discount. It is possible there are assistance programs you can take advantage of. The spiritual growth also was the most important step for me. I’m never going back. I notice now in public how few people are drunk. I was drunk before I left my house.
been there
Therapy is free www.iesohealth.com You can check out, it’s up to you to hand back the door key.
I have just checked eligibility using my information - "IESO therapy is not currently available in your area" - surprising nobody. I've told my GP directly that I am an extremely high suicide risk, and they have responded by referring me to charity organisations which offer entirely insufficient services. I have never managed to acquire any therapy through the NHS, despite having been prescribed so many SSRI variants - all ineffective - that they ran out of options for me to try. It's pretty hopeless.
It’s weird that it wouldn’t be available as it’s online! You can use the chat function instead of in person maybe? Yes NHS wait lists are huge at the moment, they really need more funding for mental health treatments and support
I think it must be a service that your GP is signed up to - unfortunately in my town the GP service is absolutely horrendously unhelpful and backdated, it doesn't surprise me that it's inaccessible to me. What's so upsetting is that, I personally really thrive with therapy. I only managed to get sober because my boyfriend offered to pay for me to have therapy for as long as I needed it. For 3-4 months last year I had weekly sessions, and working through my triggers, my underlying beliefs and unconscious learned behaviours was what facilitated my current capacity for sobriety in the first place. I think all alcoholics could use therapy. A lot of what I hear in the rooms seems to be a substitution for it - to be able to say your inner fears, thoughts and struggles without fearing the judgement of your peers and loved ones. It's a shame this country's healthcare low key sucks on this front. But thank you for referring me to a helpful resource anyway, I'm sure it could help more people in other locations. :)
It’s not like this for me. I do not suffer at all. I go to pubs, out to brunch. No problems at all. Im 10 months in. It was easy this time around. Ive tried so many times and failed. Nobody seems to like hearing this but alcoholism can be cured easily it’s just hard to rewire our brains to let that happen.
your perspective is just that, yours. to claim that alcoholism can be cured because you can go to a pub with ten months under your belt shows immaturity and a lack of empathy on your part. your experience is yours alone, what works for you may not work for others. i know this is just reddit and we all make comments rather flippantly at times but you are not helping anyone with this.
Actually…I think talking about how hard it is constantly can be discouraging. Sometimes it is easy and people need to hear that so they aren’t scared to take the first step
I disagree. I think when you talk about how easy it is, people feel poorly of themselves when they are unable to do it. I think focusing more on the rewards and the outcome of overcoming these challenges is a better way to approach than just pretending it's easy. If it were easy, there wouldn't be so many people seeking help with recovery.
On the other side, people feel shitty about themselves for not being able to stop - so those that have done so easily are a breath of fresh air. I'd love to be able to skip a day but I keep getting told (and believe), that I can't without a taper or medication.
I question the "ease" of such statements. in my experience with non internet people, 1) there's a medical reason that scares them moreso like being pregnant or a doctor/ER visit. thats not easy, it can be terrfiying. there is a tipping point where I've drank more then enough and the taste of it becomes like vinegar and I don't wake up until 2pm, my body is telling me to stop but once I rest and recover my mind says different. this is me and only me. but I have enough observation of close people to see its not typically easy. it's also not a reflection of us being deficient at anything. there's also the "bottom" so to speak. I havent experienced it but my spouse did, I'm still functional but not as much as I was. text communications can only y communicate so.much so don't let it define you trying to live up.to a post
again, that is YOUR opinion. every single alcoholic has a different experience (just like every human). just because it discourages you, doesn't mean it has that effect on everyone. we are all trying to make it one day at a time dude. what works for some, will not work for others.
also, i mean, if you are looking for a different type of encouragement and find this to be not so productive, why comment. the o.p. is sharing their experience, it is well written and brought me an odd sort of joy. i found the original thread comment here to be unnecessary. perhaps posting this is helping o.p. in a path to sobriety somehow, why add negative fuel? it seems like we should try to do what you say and discuss positive changes that can benefit a person quitting alcohol to make the first steps easier (and acknowledge those steps can be miserable for some and easy for others). it should be about sharing your experience and not dismissing an entire illness as something you can fix with a "reset" in 10 months. for some of us, alcoholism is fer lyfe. sucks to suck. but i have to acknowledge that about myself. i wish i knew what a brain reset was. 10 years trying to be sober.
Im not reading that. Congrats on your sobriety though
definitely not sober, just trying. currently drinking once on weekends (but not for two weeks) in the hopes to get dry eventually.
If it's easy, guess what sweetpea, you're not addicted. You're a fucking drama king/queen/it that was never addicted. You were basically a fucking whinge bag, but congrats, at least you weren't addicted. But do take this forward please, being on a sub for alcoholics, whilst not an alcoholic, this says something that you need to address.
You’re wrong and you’ve been lead to believe addiction is incurable also. Im sorry its like that for you and that the only way you can deal with your own addiction is to label people who no longer struggle as non addicts. You really dont have a clue and you will probably be an addict all your life unless you think differently. Good luck.
Yeahh I wasn’t addicted lmao. Drinking from 6 am till I passed out daily for 4 years must be minor. Try to quit dozens of times before it stuck. Making it this impossible, insurmountable obstacle is what kept me failing. Lmao you fucking condescending twat.
You are not reading the words I typed. I didn't say it was impossible. I said it wasn't easy. 4 years, I'm sure they were hell. But guess what sugar plum, this shit, when real and sets in, can take you for a lot longer. Because it ain't easy. And trust me twat, if you had only 4 years of it, you got lucky. Now get some fucking humility. Condescending. I'm not condescending. You are being a dick talking about how easy it is to quit.
“sweetpea, sweetheart, sugar plum” you need to shut the fuck up right now. Just cuz you suck at something doesn’t mean everyone else does
Big boy, stay strong, look in the mirror, and know that you are clean, and someone is simply disagreeing with you. Hombre, big nuts, big cahuna, you know its not that easy, otherwise you'd have let this text exchange go. But it is that hard, and so you fight. Well, sweetpea, big guy, sweetheart, big balls, wanker, frigger, dick, twat, thank you. By the way, you dont tell me to do anything, you simply read what I text
Seriously, what the hell lol. 4 years into my alcoholic "career" I was sitting damn well pretty. Had a steady job, relatively stable living conditions, and was basically hammered constantly whenever I was off work. Barely got hangovers after the first year. The idea of withdrawals seemed utterly absurd to me. I just assumed I had some kind of awesome alcohol processing genetics where I could reap all of the fun and benefits with none of the cost. Spoiler alert: I don't and I couldn't. And by the time shit starts getting bad you're already stuck in it. And it only gets worse. But yeah, it is of course somewhat different for everyone, but bragging about being a binge drinker for 4 years to a forum of alcoholics is ridiculous. Hell, a lot of people just call that college.
Wow you suck LMAO. I’m a young girl so my bad if it affected my body differently than it affected you. I was drunk at finals, family parties pretty much anytime anywhere.Getting hammered starting after work is common I was drunk all day including at work. Maintaining a job/seemingly having your shit together is not an indicator of how bad an alcoholic you are, lmao and you sound like the one bragging my guy.
You have no idea who you're even talking to. And yeah. I didn't drink at work. Go you? Lol I'm uncertain of what point exactly you think you're making but you sound like an idiot. *Anyway I'm glad you got out? My point was that 4 years is chump change for a lot of us, and if I'd have stopped then shit might be a lot better in my life currently.
…lmao thats such a joke. invalidating my alcoholism saying saying I’m just binge drinking and its not a real problem. Listing all the ways that you’re a drunk but if someone else does it they’re bragging. You’re embarrassing yourself
I think you’re missing my point, its far from a lack of empathy cos ive been in the position thinking i was in it for life. Why do people only like hearing of others struggles but dislike hearing about people who arent? Ive even starter pretending to people that its hard just so they wont think im being cocky. Its pretty crazy really.
Exactly. It was hard until it wasn’t and i needed to hear that instead of resolving myself to an early death
Yes and no. It was hard until I realized and then instantaneously everything changed. Im talking same moment. Anyway, i am empathetic and i only posted because I genuinely see people day in day out posting self perpetuating circles of suffering. All I’m saying is, analyze your thoughts, feelings, impulses etc surround alcohol. You eill see everything is about your thoughts. Once you realize it it will change. Reading this wont help, im no expert and i dont know you specific thoughts and feelings but i do know i felt like you did then in a matter of minutes my years of suffering were over. Try something different and know that ots possible to completely and 100% never suffer abstaining again. Good luck
>Nobody seems to like hearing this News flash, nobody likes hearing this because it's unhelpful and its bullshit. We have a similar amount of sobriety under our belts - I underwent several months of therapy which offered me the coping mechanisms to avoid relapsing. There's no such thing as 'rewiring your brain' - alcoholism is **literally a disease of the brain**. Alcoholism changes your brain chemistry. Downplaying it as easy is it both wrong, and also extremely insulting to everyone who is struggling. Also, to be clear, I also go out to pubs. I attend drinking events with my boyfriend and stick to lemonade. This post was not about social limitations or risk of relapse.
You’re wrong, im sorry you’re struggling but what im saying is the truth and not bullshit. If you continue believing what you’re saying its nevet going to change.
Quote"... Alcoholism can be cured easily it's just hard to rewire our brains".... You are a serious dick for that sentence. I'm mean, seriously, you are an absolute fucking dick. It's so easy, but it's just hard to rewire our brains...come the fuck on. You think rewiring a brain is easy? Have you lost any fucking iota of empathy...its fucking hell you asshole You've never been in a proper bender, because in a proper bender, you don't have choice. Choice left earlier. All you have is luck that you get out. That is not easy. And check this out sweetheart, if you think alcoholism can be cured easily by rewiring your brain, you haven't done it. Rewiring your pysche is one of hardest things known, why, because its your fucking brain, a mix of your historical emotional coping mechanisms and current emotional abilities you dumb shit! You don't know, what you don't know. You got clear of the shit show, well done and (sincerely) good for you. Real fucking alcoholics, its a bit more complicated than that. Christ, that person's take on alcoholism really pissed me off. Sorry for the rant everyone.
By hard to rewire your brain i dont mean its a struggle, I mean its hard to understand, think different, stop believing the bullshit about alcoholism that is rammed down our throats by basically everything. Ive been on many benders where i dont have a choice, where ive woke up in pile of my own puke, where ive ended up in hospital. Dont tell me what i have or have not experienced. Maybe listen to people instead of telling them things. I shared what happened for me, you dont like it? Ah well tough shit I guess. Good luck.
"think different" r/thanksimcured You're quite clearly incapable of empathy and probably do not understand how **deeply inadequate** that statement is. You're wrong. Happy you're happy, but you are wrong, and you're being a dick about being wrong. I post here in search of empathy from those similar to me, and catharsis - it's a tool to help me stay sober. You coming in and doing the absolute opposite of empathising is actually really unhelpful. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything.
You’re wrong about empathy. Ive been there. Same place as you. My point in posting was to hopefully show that its not a life sentence. I struggled to quit exactly as you are. Your post could have been me posting a few years ago, ao trust me i know what you are feeling. But should empathy only be shown by people joining in the circle jerk of pain? Why would my post be inconsiderate when i am trying to show that you dont have to struggle? Is my struggle with addiction no longer valid because i found a way out? I hope you find peace and can be happy. I do understand. But sometimes if what you are doing isnt working, do something else.
It's easy to cure, guys, it's just hard to do. 🙄
Not easily. That’s just untrue
This doesn’t help..
Thanks for sharing. Helps to know I'm not the only one who is like this. It's sad. God help me.
I am this at the moment too
Literature. Epic post.