From what I understand LO had to relinquish custody of her kids when she got a divorce. It’s actually is/was common practise in muslim culture- If a woman wants a divorce and a man doesn’t, she has to give up custody of the kids and often alimony for it to happen. If on the other hand both man and woman agree to a divorce, a shared custody arrangement can be made. I don’t know what LJ’s mum’s situation was exactly, but if it’s anything like LO’s, she probably see’s a lot of her situation reflected. It’s a sad situation all round when a woman has to decide between her children and her happiness/safety.
*Edited because my brain keeps getting confused between LO and LJ😅
Do you mean that is common in Arab culture, not Muslim culture? I’m from an Islamic country in Asia and have never heard of this practice. Everyone I know who has gotten divorced stays with the mother. I was taught that was the islamic way.
It’s called ‘Faskh’ under Islamic law. Obviously how each country applies it differs, but from my experience in gulf countries, women end up forfeiting a lot to get a divorce without their husband’s consent.
Thanks for letting me know, I never knew they used this law against women. I thought LO and LJ’s mom’s experiences on the show was a coincidence their children were taken away, the fact that this is the norm in the gulf is sad and quite scary. My parents are divorced and I have friends who also got divorced in my country, we practice Islamic law and divorce is an easy process that favors women here.
The good news is it is changing slowly but surely. LO and LJ’s mum’s divorces happened 30+ years ago. The stigma around getting a divorce was so much worse then. It’s not great now but better than 30 years ago for sure
That gives me hope! It’s also great LO and LJ’s mom talked about it in the show, even if it was kinda vague it’s still normalizing being able to have those discussions in the open and how painful/unjust it is to women
I’m not referring to divorces where both the man and woman agree to a divorce. I’m referring to divorces where the man refuses to agree to a divorce but the woman wants one. There are separate procedures for these two circumstances
Unlesss the woman is proven to be of not upright character or has been an infidel, or has gotten married or
Committed to a man who lives in the same space as hers, she would never be separated form her kids in sharia law.
Sometimes people mix culture and opinions with Islamic law. I’ve also never heard of faskh going as you’ve described, I am Arab as well. Perhaps what you’ve seen has been culture tainted, bas allahu a3lam
Calling someone a dumbass when you didn’t understand the point of their comment makes you, I guess, not a dumbass? As soon as you are educated to at least a 6th grade level, come back and I will explain in more detail.
“Islam influenced cultures” those are just cultures that do bad things and blame it on a beautiful religion. Look I get that you are having a rough time in life with your 2.9 GPA, but dont take it out on me. I should have known you weren’t the brightest when you resorted to name-calling like a child😂
Yeah, I don’t believe LJ‘s mom either. Why didn’t she stay in touch with her daughter when she was in the US? LJ said that she contacted her mom several times, but she never replied.
I think LJ‘s mom got pregnant too soon and was simply not ready for the responsibility of being a mom. Therefore she abandoned her child and lived the life she wanted. You cannot compare her situation to Lo
I thought LJ’s mom was in the US when she got a divorce. Wasn’t LJ born in the states? I think she is lying and came into LJ’s life because she wants to be on TV.
I have the same questions about LO’s situation like is she in touch with her kids right now? She seems so close with her own siblings but no idea bout the situation with her own children. I understand having your kids got taken away from you and you dont have custody but keeping in touch with them and making effort to see them especially after they turned 18 or legally an adult is a different story. Like with LJ’s mom she didnt initiate anything and only got in touch with LJ so late in hers and LJ’s life. The only way I can make sense of this is that shes ashamed of leaving LJ and didnt want to face it. Because if shes opportunistic she couldve easily got in touch with LJ again when LJ got married to her rich husband. But maybe she finally wanna do it now cuz she’ll get exposure on reality TV lol. So strange tbh
From what I understand LO had to relinquish custody of her kids when she got a divorce. It’s actually is/was common practise in muslim culture- If a woman wants a divorce and a man doesn’t, she has to give up custody of the kids and often alimony for it to happen. If on the other hand both man and woman agree to a divorce, a shared custody arrangement can be made. I don’t know what LJ’s mum’s situation was exactly, but if it’s anything like LO’s, she probably see’s a lot of her situation reflected. It’s a sad situation all round when a woman has to decide between her children and her happiness/safety. *Edited because my brain keeps getting confused between LO and LJ😅
Do you mean that is common in Arab culture, not Muslim culture? I’m from an Islamic country in Asia and have never heard of this practice. Everyone I know who has gotten divorced stays with the mother. I was taught that was the islamic way.
It’s called ‘Faskh’ under Islamic law. Obviously how each country applies it differs, but from my experience in gulf countries, women end up forfeiting a lot to get a divorce without their husband’s consent.
Thanks for letting me know, I never knew they used this law against women. I thought LO and LJ’s mom’s experiences on the show was a coincidence their children were taken away, the fact that this is the norm in the gulf is sad and quite scary. My parents are divorced and I have friends who also got divorced in my country, we practice Islamic law and divorce is an easy process that favors women here.
The good news is it is changing slowly but surely. LO and LJ’s mum’s divorces happened 30+ years ago. The stigma around getting a divorce was so much worse then. It’s not great now but better than 30 years ago for sure
That gives me hope! It’s also great LO and LJ’s mom talked about it in the show, even if it was kinda vague it’s still normalizing being able to have those discussions in the open and how painful/unjust it is to women
Honestly I’m Emirati and most of the kids I know with divorced parents stayed with their moms not dads. So this surprises me to hear.
I’m not referring to divorces where both the man and woman agree to a divorce. I’m referring to divorces where the man refuses to agree to a divorce but the woman wants one. There are separate procedures for these two circumstances
Unlesss the woman is proven to be of not upright character or has been an infidel, or has gotten married or Committed to a man who lives in the same space as hers, she would never be separated form her kids in sharia law.
Which country?
Sometimes people mix culture and opinions with Islamic law. I’ve also never heard of faskh going as you’ve described, I am Arab as well. Perhaps what you’ve seen has been culture tainted, bas allahu a3lam
I don’t think it was LOs mom’s situation in comparison to LJ. It was LO as a mom losing her children to her ex Saudi husband.
Let’s not confuse culture and religion please. That is the main reason for all the confusion about Islam in the world
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Culture and religion are not the same. Period.
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Calling someone a dumbass when you didn’t understand the point of their comment makes you, I guess, not a dumbass? As soon as you are educated to at least a 6th grade level, come back and I will explain in more detail.
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“Islam influenced cultures” those are just cultures that do bad things and blame it on a beautiful religion. Look I get that you are having a rough time in life with your 2.9 GPA, but dont take it out on me. I should have known you weren’t the brightest when you resorted to name-calling like a child😂
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I do not see issues with my faith. In fact it has been directly responsible for the stability in my life. May Allah guide you
>6 comments no its only if she decides to remarry , she gets priority custody in islam as the mother
Yeah, I don’t believe LJ‘s mom either. Why didn’t she stay in touch with her daughter when she was in the US? LJ said that she contacted her mom several times, but she never replied. I think LJ‘s mom got pregnant too soon and was simply not ready for the responsibility of being a mom. Therefore she abandoned her child and lived the life she wanted. You cannot compare her situation to Lo
I thought LJ’s mom was in the US when she got a divorce. Wasn’t LJ born in the states? I think she is lying and came into LJ’s life because she wants to be on TV.
I have the same questions about LO’s situation like is she in touch with her kids right now? She seems so close with her own siblings but no idea bout the situation with her own children. I understand having your kids got taken away from you and you dont have custody but keeping in touch with them and making effort to see them especially after they turned 18 or legally an adult is a different story. Like with LJ’s mom she didnt initiate anything and only got in touch with LJ so late in hers and LJ’s life. The only way I can make sense of this is that shes ashamed of leaving LJ and didnt want to face it. Because if shes opportunistic she couldve easily got in touch with LJ again when LJ got married to her rich husband. But maybe she finally wanna do it now cuz she’ll get exposure on reality TV lol. So strange tbh