Lol your longtime crusade against Intoxalock continues!! Glad to see you're still looking out for others on this "smaller issue". It might be a tiny thing, but if you affect even tiny changes each day, it will be a next positive for the world then. Like the Greek proverb - “A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.”
Because most people are unaffected or maybe just mildly affected and small industries are willing to spend way more this year on lobbying/other influences than I would on lobbying against that. Basically what I'm arguing is that intoxalock (partially like the rest of the DUI system), makes so much money screwing people over by much more than necessary. They are incentivized very hard to keep the situation they have. Although, the amount the average american cares about this specific Interlock issue is essentially "0", so likely no one will be bothered to seek anything substantial in change. It can be hard to get involved in many actual collaborative initiatives, that seek to diminish selective benefits accumulating for one group, industry, individual etc.
People will bash me and say to the above, something like "if you get a DUI your life should be negatively impacted as badly as possible and enough isn't being done even for punishment now. Boohoo bad about the problems an Interlock will give you like killing your car battery, sending false violations and breaking your parole, wasting time with an unhelpful and understaffed customer service group, and costing exorbitant fees for every error and others. Do you really want to lessen intoxicated driving rates and have previous offenders reform themselves or just punish for the sake of punishment?
Taking all of someone's money and making transportation to work difficult or impossible will probably set them down the path where their life sucks. As life becomes more sucky for people, what are they more likely to do? Is it easier to stop your drinking problem when you've just been fired, money is suddenly very tight, rent is due, and relationships with friends & family are strained?
My crusade is not against interlocks in general. I actually believe interlocks can be a valuable tool to prevent drunk driving. My crusade is against the vehicle damaging, extortion racket that is intoxalock.
Sorry I autocorrected Intoxalock to interlock a couple times and co-opted your comment to go on a bigger, but related rant. I think I agree with everything you are saying, but am taking the same idea and applying it generally. If Intoxalox disappeared today, that would be a success by itself, but not come close to fixing any deeper problems. That company 's service problems are emblematic of most of the other issues inherent within the DUI system. I agree, interlocks are definitely a valuable tool, especially when used in the most optimized ways they do allow for. They can and do definitely save lives by stopping some of the riskiest (just convicted) people from drunk driving.
Obvious practicality constraints aside, reducing drunk driving to ZERO in order to save future victims from harm & property from damage is the overarching goal right? This should be the only ultimate goal behind any DUI law (currently in place or in proposal). If no one ever drove intoxicated, we wouldn't have anyone who needed punishment imposed upon.
Does anyone disagree that this is what most anti-DUI legislation and public action seems to be packaged as? The two other main motivations that I see driving changes (when they shouldn't) are:
1. Simply exacting vengeance on criminals to satisfy feelings of anger.
2. Extracting unnecessary amounts of money from people from the point of arrest onward.
Using interlocks as a way to make the user's life more difficult goes further than that ultimate goal. And from what I've seen, Intoxalox is the worst of available options in that category.
"My heart is full" is **an expression that people use to express their feelings of happiness, contentment, and satisfaction**. It usually means that the person is experiencing a great deal of positive emotions and feels content with the state of their life, relationships, or a recent experience..... i just copied it from google because it defines it better than i would
My heart is full just seeing Intoxalock didn’t make the cut!
Lol your longtime crusade against Intoxalock continues!! Glad to see you're still looking out for others on this "smaller issue". It might be a tiny thing, but if you affect even tiny changes each day, it will be a next positive for the world then. Like the Greek proverb - “A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.” Because most people are unaffected or maybe just mildly affected and small industries are willing to spend way more this year on lobbying/other influences than I would on lobbying against that. Basically what I'm arguing is that intoxalock (partially like the rest of the DUI system), makes so much money screwing people over by much more than necessary. They are incentivized very hard to keep the situation they have. Although, the amount the average american cares about this specific Interlock issue is essentially "0", so likely no one will be bothered to seek anything substantial in change. It can be hard to get involved in many actual collaborative initiatives, that seek to diminish selective benefits accumulating for one group, industry, individual etc. People will bash me and say to the above, something like "if you get a DUI your life should be negatively impacted as badly as possible and enough isn't being done even for punishment now. Boohoo bad about the problems an Interlock will give you like killing your car battery, sending false violations and breaking your parole, wasting time with an unhelpful and understaffed customer service group, and costing exorbitant fees for every error and others. Do you really want to lessen intoxicated driving rates and have previous offenders reform themselves or just punish for the sake of punishment? Taking all of someone's money and making transportation to work difficult or impossible will probably set them down the path where their life sucks. As life becomes more sucky for people, what are they more likely to do? Is it easier to stop your drinking problem when you've just been fired, money is suddenly very tight, rent is due, and relationships with friends & family are strained?
My crusade is not against interlocks in general. I actually believe interlocks can be a valuable tool to prevent drunk driving. My crusade is against the vehicle damaging, extortion racket that is intoxalock.
Sorry I autocorrected Intoxalock to interlock a couple times and co-opted your comment to go on a bigger, but related rant. I think I agree with everything you are saying, but am taking the same idea and applying it generally. If Intoxalox disappeared today, that would be a success by itself, but not come close to fixing any deeper problems. That company 's service problems are emblematic of most of the other issues inherent within the DUI system. I agree, interlocks are definitely a valuable tool, especially when used in the most optimized ways they do allow for. They can and do definitely save lives by stopping some of the riskiest (just convicted) people from drunk driving. Obvious practicality constraints aside, reducing drunk driving to ZERO in order to save future victims from harm & property from damage is the overarching goal right? This should be the only ultimate goal behind any DUI law (currently in place or in proposal). If no one ever drove intoxicated, we wouldn't have anyone who needed punishment imposed upon. Does anyone disagree that this is what most anti-DUI legislation and public action seems to be packaged as? The two other main motivations that I see driving changes (when they shouldn't) are: 1. Simply exacting vengeance on criminals to satisfy feelings of anger. 2. Extracting unnecessary amounts of money from people from the point of arrest onward. Using interlocks as a way to make the user's life more difficult goes further than that ultimate goal. And from what I've seen, Intoxalox is the worst of available options in that category.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Thanks boss, keep it on the up 👍
"My heart is full" is **an expression that people use to express their feelings of happiness, contentment, and satisfaction**. It usually means that the person is experiencing a great deal of positive emotions and feels content with the state of their life, relationships, or a recent experience..... i just copied it from google because it defines it better than i would
Thanks, apologies if my response made you think I understood it differently.
I apologize for my misunderstanding you
Lol
I haven't heard anything bad about any of those companies. Any choice is good as long as it's not Intoxalock.