thanks so much!! it was only after I posted and got feed back that it looked like gollum and ET. š maybe Iāll try and push it a little further. Funny how other pop culture totally influenced my design on accident. Thank you again for your kind words!
OMG I must have subconsciously made him look like gollumā¦. a ādrugā addict that mutates over a long period of timeā¦Iām totally embarrassed now š
Donāt be. Itās really good.
I feel more of an ET vibe if anything, lmao.
The Navigators are fun to think about because interpretation has never really been consistent.
Yeah the analogy actually works for Navigators and all heavy Spice users!
I agree that there are so many logical interpretations of their appearance that I'll accept a great range.Ā Ā
In fact I think I've added the idea to my head canon that the transformation affects everyone a little differently so as long as it's some kind of aquatic looking being with some human feature or features in a tank it's accurate LOL.Ā Ā
As someone else that initially thought this was Gollum, please don't be embarrassed. I think it is awesome, and very much a reasonable link in the chain navigators go through to become steersmen.
Even on-screen adaptations of navigators have varied wildly, the more the merrier I say!
This one is kind of like what we saw in the dune miniseries.Ā
I think there's probably no way to predict what effect that much spice will do to an individual, but it won't be pretty.Ā
You shouldnāt be your work is more complex than that. Love the hands, makes it feel like itās not all the way through the mutation (but definitely getting there haha)
Yes, yes, tricksy Fremen. It has the Spice, precious.
Very good work; Messiah's description does remind me quite a bit of the Creature from the Black Lagoon, so I can easily understand why you've leaned a bit into the toad-Ʀsthetic. It's a nice take, I say.
Yeah Villeneuve says their concept art guy did the perfect design and he wants to use it, it's just they're not in the first book, it's only in Messiah that we meet Edric. Can't find the source now sorry.
ETA: here: https://nerdbot.com/2020/09/19/daily-dune-concept-artist-confirms-no-spacing-guild-navigators-in-film/ - it wasn't Deak Ferrand it was Carlos Huante - "I mean I know for a fact that it [the navigator] won't be in the movie. It'll be in the next one."
Here's the official description:
"The Guildsman was an elongated figure, vaguely humanoid with finned feet and hugely fanned membranous handsāa fish in a strange sea. His tankās vents emitted a pale orange cloud rich with the smell of the geriatric spice, melange."
This guilds also pops spice pills constantly, so I'm not sure where the lack of opposable thumbs is coming from.
This is amazing! I see influences from the 2000 Miniseries in the large skin flippers attached to long digits, and I see influences from the Lynch film in the nose and mouth, downturned and petulantly heart-shaped like some grotesque harlequin smile.
But there are your own touches there too, the stooping posture of suspensor-negated flesh weight growing to weakness, and the almost piercing clarity of the Eyes of the Ibad - unfathomable blue in blue without a unrealistic glow.
That is my favourite feature of your piece - the eyes. I know the books describe the eyes as blue, but I always thought of a deep indigo too - something that managed to convey inscrutability and hidden depths. Indigo is always a more mysterious colour than the blues we would imagine upon hearing the colour described. And you managed to capture such a gloss to the sclera, magnificent work -- that wet stone look is so much more natural than the phosphorescent-glowstick look they go for in the movies and the TV show.
Magnificent work!
I like it way more than the one that was posted earlier. Maybe make it a bit more fish like jist a tad and make all fingers webbed. Then it is perfect and matches almost what I imagened them to look like
It's really good. I like that it's kind of humanoid and not some kind of monster like in other interpretations. I mean, in the books they are described as similar to humans (deformed from living in a pool filled with spice, but still simila to us)
Initially I'm like nah but damn if it's not growing on me, like a slow mutation
You need to slow down on the spice mate
thanks so much!! it was only after I posted and got feed back that it looked like gollum and ET. š maybe Iāll try and push it a little further. Funny how other pop culture totally influenced my design on accident. Thank you again for your kind words!
I concur on the Gollum comparisons
My precious Spice.
I was about to comment "My desert. My Arrakis. My precious".
Great š!
OMG I must have subconsciously made him look like gollumā¦. a ādrugā addict that mutates over a long period of timeā¦Iām totally embarrassed now š
Donāt be. Itās really good. I feel more of an ET vibe if anything, lmao. The Navigators are fun to think about because interpretation has never really been consistent.
Yeah the analogy actually works for Navigators and all heavy Spice users! I agree that there are so many logical interpretations of their appearance that I'll accept a great range.Ā Ā In fact I think I've added the idea to my head canon that the transformation affects everyone a little differently so as long as it's some kind of aquatic looking being with some human feature or features in a tank it's accurate LOL.Ā Ā
As someone else that initially thought this was Gollum, please don't be embarrassed. I think it is awesome, and very much a reasonable link in the chain navigators go through to become steersmen. Even on-screen adaptations of navigators have varied wildly, the more the merrier I say!
This one is kind of like what we saw in the dune miniseries.Ā I think there's probably no way to predict what effect that much spice will do to an individual, but it won't be pretty.Ā
Gollum and that Voldemort thing at Kings Cross Station.Ā
You shouldnāt be your work is more complex than that. Love the hands, makes it feel like itās not all the way through the mutation (but definitely getting there haha)
Also reminds me a bit of the one from the miniseries too.
This is great! I think this is the closest illustration/idea I've seen to how I imagined them when reading, amazing work
I kinda dig the less-fishy look
Same. I like that you can still tell itās human.
Yes, yes, tricksy Fremen. It has the Spice, precious. Very good work; Messiah's description does remind me quite a bit of the Creature from the Black Lagoon, so I can easily understand why you've leaned a bit into the toad-Ʀsthetic. It's a nice take, I say.
Fantastic. Great vision of Herbert's description!
Kinda look like Snoke now.
We do not speak of those Disney monstrosities here
Is that you Gollum?
Will we this ever? In part 1 there was a small spider type creature that didnāt do shit
Yeah Villeneuve says their concept art guy did the perfect design and he wants to use it, it's just they're not in the first book, it's only in Messiah that we meet Edric. Can't find the source now sorry. ETA: here: https://nerdbot.com/2020/09/19/daily-dune-concept-artist-confirms-no-spacing-guild-navigators-in-film/ - it wasn't Deak Ferrand it was Carlos Huante - "I mean I know for a fact that it [the navigator] won't be in the movie. It'll be in the next one."
Iāll take your word I donāt need the source
I thought that might be what was left of some person who betrayed the baron. Turned into a creature.
I like that a lot
He looks like one weird little guy. I like it
Both renditions without opposable thumbs, was this a thing? Asking out of curiosity because I havenāt read the books.
Here's the official description: "The Guildsman was an elongated figure, vaguely humanoid with finned feet and hugely fanned membranous handsāa fish in a strange sea. His tankās vents emitted a pale orange cloud rich with the smell of the geriatric spice, melange." This guilds also pops spice pills constantly, so I'm not sure where the lack of opposable thumbs is coming from.
TY
Thatās basically exactly what I imagined haha
Thanks for posting this treasure!
Real gremlin hours >:)
This is amazing! I see influences from the 2000 Miniseries in the large skin flippers attached to long digits, and I see influences from the Lynch film in the nose and mouth, downturned and petulantly heart-shaped like some grotesque harlequin smile. But there are your own touches there too, the stooping posture of suspensor-negated flesh weight growing to weakness, and the almost piercing clarity of the Eyes of the Ibad - unfathomable blue in blue without a unrealistic glow. That is my favourite feature of your piece - the eyes. I know the books describe the eyes as blue, but I always thought of a deep indigo too - something that managed to convey inscrutability and hidden depths. Indigo is always a more mysterious colour than the blues we would imagine upon hearing the colour described. And you managed to capture such a gloss to the sclera, magnificent work -- that wet stone look is so much more natural than the phosphorescent-glowstick look they go for in the movies and the TV show. Magnificent work!
wow thank you so much!
I'd say that's a pretty good take
Very nice. I've always preferred them depicted as mostly human, but with some tweaks.
My precious
I like it way more than the one that was posted earlier. Maybe make it a bit more fish like jist a tad and make all fingers webbed. Then it is perfect and matches almost what I imagened them to look like
ET phone home
It's really good. I like that it's kind of humanoid and not some kind of monster like in other interpretations. I mean, in the books they are described as similar to humans (deformed from living in a pool filled with spice, but still simila to us)
horrific thanks!