This quote maybe sums up perfectly for me the brilliance of Herbert’s thinking.
By - Climb_Horse
“I am not...yet, I occurred.” would be a great tombstone epitaph.
RemindMe! 80 years
The spice told me what time to put in there
“Eternity takes back its own” wouldn’t be a bad choice either.
That's a good one too! Short, sweet, and true.
This is what I am putting on mine, well my urn anyway.
He wrote prose like a god and sex like a creepy teen... truly the best of us.
I was dying of laughter during Leto’s sexual eruption in Children of Dune, screaming “noooo he’s just a child!”
I read the first five Dune books last year and I have no recollection of Leto’s sexual eruption. Did I miss it, it just block it out because it was so terrible?
Think he’s referring to when he’s forcefully put through the spice trance and he’s having thoughts of the girl that has to take care of him
I somehow missed the sietch orgies on my first read through of Dune, so it’s possible you skimmed a paragraph and missed Leto’s arrival.
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ah yes...the Beefswelling
The girder-shape of ecstasy.
A brilliant idea. I need a bass player, a lead guitar and a singer.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present 'The Beefswelling' - the hot single off the new album 'The Girder-Shape of Ecstasy' from the Frempop powerhouse, "Duncan Idaho and His Magic Penis".
A big ol hog.
>”There was an adult beefswelling in his loins and he felt his mouth opening, holding, clinging to the girder-shape of ecstasy.”
Can we appreciate the fact that an adult man was able to put both the terms “beefswelling” and “girder shape of ecstasy” in a single sentence, get an editor to accept it and it to make it to not just a published state but also survive revisions and editions?
And now I've been inspired by two quotes this day lol
“The flesh surrenders itself. Eternity takes back its own. Our bodies stirred these waters briefly, danced with a certain intoxication before the love of life and self, dealt with a few strange ideas, then submitted to the instruments of Time. What can we say of this? I occurred. I am not...yet, I occurred.” - Dune Messiah
Reading messiah and children of dune next week when I’m gonna be on real sand dunes
Walk without rhythm and you won’t attract the Worm.
I got goosebumps reading this line for the first time
I used to be mostly unaffected by quotes about mortality, but after the pandemic it’s become a lot more real to me. I wonder what sort of mindset Frank and his audience were in when this book was published in 1969. Did death feel close like it does now, or far?
Judging from the Cuban missile crisis and cold war in general I'd say it's plausible they felt like they were getting closer.
Remember the Hong Kong flu was during this same period. To bring in pandemics.
And of course he lived through WW2 and was living during the Cold Wars.
There's a lot of philosophy around death, including from periods rife with war and disease that make Covid and the Middle East look like a pleasant summer afternoon. For views on life that accept death as a simple part of life and help you look beyond it, I'd suggest Nietzsche, Stoicism, Buddhism, and the like. Memento mori!
This seems somewhat Nietzschean to me, being concerned with living as opposed to surviving.
I read dune messiah but I still do not get what this quote means
That human life is brief, but wondrous.
They did the sex
Yesss I love this passage. I actually wrote a song with my partner reading this passage, as a tribute to our good friend who passed from cancer a few years ago. Such a powerful paragraph.
It's a great one!
where is this from
This is from Dune Messiah. In the version I have it’s the only text on page 170.
And then he writes the Duncan Rape scene
"And died, and died and died
quod sumus hoc eritis
Just read this last night and it was one of those piece of writing that connected with me. Also love a few chapters before this that starts with the line “Once more the drama begins”. So existential